How drastically would Stealth Icicles effect the meta?

>>31973501
A fucking lot.

bye garchomp

>>31973501
Assuming it's just Ice-type Stealth Rock

>SE against dragon, grass, and ground instead of bug, fire, and ice
>Still SE against flying
>NVE against ice and water instead of fighting and ground
>Most likely would be most learned by Ice and Water types, and might (just might) have similar availability to stealth rock

>Would most likely stack with stealth rock the same way spikes, tox spikes, and sneaky pebbles already stack

>flying-type permanently btfo

>>31973501
>Landorus, Gliscor and Garchomp are severely nerfed and drop in usage, Gliscor might even drop to BL or UU
>Since it sounds like a Ice-Type exclusive like Aurora Veil, you'd see more Ice types around, Mamoswine, Weavile and A-Ninetales primarily and others from lower tiers may rise in popularity
>All dragon types except the hyper powerful pseudos become shit
>Flying Types are fucked and if it stacks with Rocks they are double-fucked, unless their name is Skarmory or Celesteela
>Defog and Rapid Spin become obligatory if you want to run something with double weakness to Ice, Water or Steel spinfoggers increase in usage
>Grass types get shat on for no reason again, as always

>>31973561
Gliscor is UU already

>>31973576
Sorry, been out of the loop.

Assuming it got limited distribution (only ice types, and not all of them even), ice types removed them upon switching in (but were not immune to them) and that it could not be active at the same time as stealth rock (meaning setting one replaces the other), how would it realistically affect the meta?

I would guess ice types would go up in usage and we'd have stealth rock/sneaky icicles wars, as all teams would try to set up the one that benefits it the most, but beyond that, what would happen?

Smogon OM when?

Just make it Stealth Rock but Ice-type and learnable by all Ice-type Pokémon and bam, new meta. We can see how it'd affect stuff literally rather than guessing.

>>31973666
>Assuming it got limited distribution
>ice types removed them upon switching in
In other words, not like pebbles at all.

People would use more ice-types.

>>31975545
It actually already exists.
http://www.smogon.com/articles/same-type-stealth-rock

>>31973501
It wouldn't.
Ice is objectively shit even against the types it's SE on.

>>31975921
Ice is a great offensive type, dudebro.

So would they be able to stack with stealth rocks, because that would be a lot of damage coming into a layer of Ice and Stealth Rocks as well as spikes

>Dragon/Flying types lose 75% health each time they switch in if rocks and icicles are set up

>>31973501
The meta will finally be free of the cancer that is Landorus-T and Garchomp.

How would a grass type stealth rock work?
Stealth grass if you will.

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>>31976394

>>31973501

>Genies are finally removed
>Garchomp still manages to be OU
>Every flying type not resistant to ice is basically done for.
>Tangrowth is fucked
>Heatran and Alolawak get even more usage since fire types will remove Incognito Icicles


basically even more cancer than before.

>>31973501
All Flying types, Dragon types and most Ground types are now unusable. Anything with a combination of the two is ruined forever.

>>31976665
I guess all Fire-types are useless because of SR

>>31976671
Yeah basically

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Is there any type combo that would get ohko by pebbles + icicles?

>>31976693
No, at best a Grass/Flying would be down 75% on the switch

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>every Bug/Flying Pokemon's face when

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>>31973501
The only way to keep a usable meta is for either;

A: Make it so there is a limit to the number of hazards allows at once to prevent this and rocks being up
B: Have them disappear after the first switch in
C: Have them disappear after the user switched out or is KOed

>>31977276
How about they disappear when your opponent uses a fire-type move?

>>31973536
>Charizard takes 67.5% upon switch-in to rocks and ice.
>Lando takes 67.5% upon switch-in
>Salamence and Dragonite take 75% upon switch-in