/vgcg/ - VGC General

>>31965477
Remember to post here after how you got culturally enriched etc.

>>31965856
>vgc
it's irrelevant and unofficial unlike smogon university's metas
this thread should be deleted

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>>31965691
In case you mean all the Shoma rip-off teams, yeah. I've been blowing the fuck out of them endlessly. What of it?

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Why are people running High Horsepower over EQ?

>>31967184
To not hurt your partners and get more damage.

>>31967184
High Horsepower does more single target damage and doesn't hit your teammate

>>31967184
It's single target.

>>31967184
Grassy terrain puts a negative effect on EQ but not HH

>>31967184
The better question would be: Why the fuck does Snorlax even get High Horsepower?

>>31967184
I forgot it was doubles, riiiiight.

>>31967264
I would've thought the better question would be why even bother running Ground as coverage? HH tends to be coverage for the Cursesets but it doesn't even really hit anything of worthwhile besides Marowak which isn't even that hard to break and Metagross which everyone seems to pack half a team of things which beat it.

Gengar gets virtually no use and other ghosts could be covered easier and the two most used Steel types take fuck all from it and beat you handily. Most other stuff get pretty easily smacked around with Return too.

>>31967417
+1 116+ Atk Snorlax Return vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 130-154 (89 - 105.4%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

+1 116+ Atk Snorlax High Horsepower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 162-192 (110.9 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


+1 116+ Atk Snorlax Return vs. 76 HP / 4 Def Arcanine: 135-160 (77.1 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+1 116+ Atk Snorlax High Horsepower vs. 76 HP / 4 Def Arcanine: 170-200 (97.1 - 114.2%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO


+1 116+ Atk Snorlax Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Muk-Alola: 144-171 (67.9 - 80.6%) -- 40.6% chance to 2HKO after Gluttony Figy Berry recovery

+1 116+ Atk Snorlax High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Muk-Alola: 180-212 (84.9 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO


It's mostly for things like these.

What's your favorite "thing" you've been using recently?

Pokemon, Moveset, Lead, Pair, Meme, etc.

I've starting using Mimikyu lately and the little fucker has pulled it's weight amazingly. I'm surprised at how good it is, Disguise is a blessing and it is deceptively hard-hitting. Lots of utility too.

>>31967765
I've been having a lot of success with Gastrodon recently, barring the obvious shit like Kartana or Ninetales it's really hard to kill, and can easily deal with stuff like Chomp which my team has some trouble with.

>>31967765
I like wide guard. So far I'm only in theorymon stage, but wideguard + garchomp beats koko (unless twinkle tackle), and wide guard + nihilego beats garchomp.

Also been trying out smeargle. Despite misty and electric terrain everywhere, spore is still quite useful. The only thing to be worried about is whether I'll outspeed opposing arcanine or lele. I tried out icy wind on it for some speed control, but every time it would've been useful, the opponent protected. I'll put tailwind on it next time I play.

>>31967800
>I've been having a lot of success with Gastrodon recently,
You saying this feels surreal considering it was like yesterday when Gastrodon was fucking everywhere. Sasuga metagame.

>>31967765
I've been still trying to find a last slot with my team, so I'm about to throw alolan exeggutor on it, just not sure how to run it. I really need something to deal with gastrodon+gigalith.

>>31967881
>I really need something to deal with gastrodon+gigalith.
I like dealing with those with my sp atk Celesteela. No one ever expects the Giga Drain on the shitty slug.

>>31967881
Why don't you just use Kartana?

>>31967898
I haven't gotten any of my tapus or UBs to 100 so I haven't bothered using them, and kartana can't take a hit. My team is overly specific so eggy's really the only thing that fits the slot from what I can tell, even considering the previously mentioned UBS or Tapus

>>31967898
Bulu is also a choice. Any grass type really.

>>31967905
>I haven't gotten any of my tapus or UBs to 100
Do I even need to say it?

>>31967910
I just suggested Kartana because it's more useful against shit like Lele or Fini which I've been seeing a lot of lately.

>>31967915
You can keep your memes to yourself m8.

>>31967915
just

>>31967910
>still using bulu
it'll come back, right?

>>31967935
>It's this close to drop from the top 30 in usage
JUST

>>31967910

No, no grass types can really do what Kartana does and that is taking out the Tapu's pretty reliably with simple but effective coverage. It also outspeeds all of them except for scarf variants and Koko.

Bulu is kind of pathetic really, since grassy terrain is really bad outside some niches and mass EQ teams.

Kartana is crazy good this meta and can't be replaced really.

>>31967935
>Bulu, bloomdoom(woodhammer) ohko's P2 and Snorlax, with helping hand it ohko's A- Muk

>>31967800
I tried using the sea slug and I like how it softens the offense of a bunch of crap till people realized they could simply nuke it with Lele instead of trying to play round it and it can't really do shit.

Fuck that pink cunt.

>>31968138
Probably doesn't help that there is a retarded lack of Steel type choices in this meta and some retarded designer at GF thought it was okay to give it 181 atk and 109 speed with no real downside like maybe lack of coverage was perfectly okay.

I mean the only Steel types which are worth anything are those who pack coverage against themselves.

>>31968270
Actually is there a reason we don't see HH like at all in this meta?

Running a few calcs it's kind of crazy how many big threats in this meta get completely blown away by a simple HH. It's not even a uncommon move, some of the best utility/support mons in this meta have it as option.

>>31968270
252+ Atk Tapu Bulu Bloom Doom (190 BP) vs. 244 HP / 92 Def Eviolite Porygon2 in Grassy Terrain: 177-208 (92.6 - 108.9%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

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>going to regionals tomorrow
>still making last minute team changes

>>31968325
Just go with what you've practiced more and feel more comfortable with faggot. Changing shit at the last minute will make your plays less good because you'll be thinking all the time about if the last change you did was good enough or not.

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>>31968325
Right here with ya!

>>31968312
>>Actually is there a reason we don't see HH like at all in this meta?
No users. Why else?

Besides Clefairy anything else who can use it would rather be doing something else.

>>31968368
Arcanine can use it very well

>>31968384
>anything else who can use it would rather be doing something else.

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>>31965856
>Youtubers bitch wine and moan about hacks, mods, and etc.
>Use modified 3DS to capture gameplay.

Oh, the irony.

>>31968403
The Pokemon community is full of hypocrites. It's nothing new.

>tfw would have gone to St. Louis but entry fees and a cracked bottom screen

Hopefully I'll be able to go next year though

>>31968394
I can see an offensive arcanine set running it since all the cancer dog of healthy meta needs is wild charge+flare blitz in terms of attacking moves

>>31968441
>Not running ESpeed
Sub 1000 shitter detected.

>>31968454
I didn't say it was a good idea to not run that, but it doesn't really need espeed. It doesn't need most of the shit it does have. Arcanine has the movepool of a normal type with the benefit of not being normal type and having a good ability, it's dumb.

>>31968468
I use blitz + espeed instead of wild charge purely because it's useful to pick off stuff and it hits everything for neutral except rock mons, of which there are only two relevant ones.

If arcanine can't do much damage in a turn, chances are that its partner probably can, so helping hand is very useful for that.

>>31968569
Wild Charge is a meme.

If Fini bothers you that much that you need to pack Wild Charge your team is shit to begin with with so many options to kill her.

>>31968429
What's the entry fee?

>>31968998
$30

>>31969243
That's ridiculous.

I pray to god that next year circuit is much better. I'll finally be able to go to live events so I'd like to have a realistic chance to get to worlds.

>>31969408
Cost of the event entry is hardly an issue.

The real problem is the lack of events and stupid point distribution. I mean it takes like 500CP to qualify for worlds I think? Winning an international is 500 so automatic worlds qualification if you win is understandable.

But regional being 200 for a win meaning you need at least a minimum of 3 events to qualify. Most countries barely even get 1-2 event per year which pretty much excludes anyone who can't fly all over the continent.

>>31969547
Yeah, TPCi went full retard this year.

>>31969547
That's what I was referring to.

As much as a faggot as he was about it, Arash is right to be butthurt. Yurops in general really, they always get fucked over.

>>31969569
Arguably, Asia/Pacific get fucked over even worse than Europe.

Europe at least gets 16 World spots allocated across the continent, Asia/Pacific gets a total of like 8 when they basically shit all over Europe in terms of community size.

>>31969595
They really should divide them too.

>>31969547
What was the CP limit in past years?

>>31966051
can you explain us further?

>>31969595
I wouldn't say so. Europe had its most important tournament 2 weeks after the game was out. That's a very big fuck you to them

>>31969633
>>31954370
>>31955465

I've started to see a little more variation and smarter players so it's not as ez-mode as it used to be. Still, the big majority doesn't seem to know what the fuck they are doing with Drifblim.

>>31969595

>Tfw live in Mexico.

Nobody knows yet true suffering dudes. The only way to get points here is the occasional Premier Challenge, doing awesome in the International Challenges or flying all over to Brazil or Chile to win their premier challenges or regional in Brazil.
Even more fucked are the dudes in Africa I guess.

In conclusion, the VGC circuit is basically morphing into a US only entry at this rate, so much for "connecting everyone together" around the world.

>>31969678
>is basically morphing
Since I learned about the existence of VGC, that's how VGC has always appeared to me. US or bust.

Honestly, I'd say that some LA places are doing better than Yurop.

I have no idea how things are in Mexico though, I used to know about them yeaaaaaaars ago when Pokemex was a thing.

>>31969691
At least from what I've seen Chile and Brazil are the only ones getting some kind of steady support in LA.
In Mexico the only Pokémon events are TCG ones, in fact I think they're the reason that there's a random Premier here and there in the country.

But that's the point. With how fucked is the system in Japan and how they're fucking Yurop in this season worlds will basically be:
2 jap dudes, 10 yurop dudes and the rest will be filled with US guys.
While it's not bad since it's the host country some support for other places would be appreciated.

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>>31969661
what set does that mimikyu run to outspeed and kill a scarfed lele?

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>>31969822
The Leles are not scarfed. Did you somehow miss the part where I was referring to Shoma's team players?

If the Lele is scarfed I'd obviously do a different thing.

>>31969834
what's the set then?

>>31969789
I was pretty baffled when I found out the LA International was gonna be in BR but then I found out they actually have a lively and constant VGC scene. I was pretty surprised, I thought they only played TCG.

Chile and Argentina are the other places I've seen have lively scenes too. Colombia stuff going around too.

Speaking of Mexico, I think there's a Reg in Mexico June and I'll be around there during those dates so I'll try to attend. Perhaps we can meet-up during then or something.

>>31969884
Lele's base speed is 95, while Mimikyu is 96. You can probably figure out how to outspeed it every time (othern than Scarf) with that.

When will the international comp
etion end and when do you get the mega stones?

>>31969918
I hope at least someone from those countries manages to go to worlds and they can at least add some variety to the tournament.

Oh, I thought there was an event in March or April, but I guess it's just a TCG one. That would be nice anon. Hopefully I don't have to work that day and can attend too.

>>31969971
Check serebii or the catalog son.

>>31970144
>>I hope at least someone from those countries manages to go to worlds and they can at least add some variety to the tournament.
This year will be screenpeaking year at worlds :^)

>>31970144
There were a bunch of LatAm people in 2016 worlds, but most of them died on day 1. The few that made it to day 2 ended up bubbling out.

Speaking of bubbling out, someone from Mexico almost made it to top cut in 2015 (he ended up 9th).

The retarded tournament structure that makes people advance based on things they can't control (i.e. other people's performance) is something I really hope they change in the future.

>>31970235
>Speaking of bubbling out, someone from Mexico almost made it to top cut in 2015 (he ended up 9th).
Man, I remember that. I was pretty butthurt when that happened.

If you use shiny Garchomp you deserve to go to the 1300s.

>>31972038
But I hatched a shiny gible who had perfect everything except for spdef.

>>31965856
Are these supposed to be mirror matches or is the official meta this boiled down and shit?

>>31972066
Someone won a big tournament and posted the team online. Happens with every format and dies down quickly. Remember ABR's Weavile stall from last year?

>>31972079
Nope.
Really just started to look at the actual tournaments now and it looks... really bad.

>>31972091
You haven't looked really far then. Also, ABR's team was a Smogon OU team that dominated the ladder after it was posted online (although it only got super popular after a youtuber used it).

This is one of the most recent tournament finishes (OP's pic) >>31916972

>>31972091
The team that won posted here >>31972112
isn't copied because the guy who made it made it to suit his playstyle, while the guy who won the most recent tournament has a fairly simple and easy to use team that only won the tournament because of using an unexpected combination of mons and sets alongside being piloted by a world champion. Seeing the same team constantly on battle spot might be frustrating, but if you're at least somewhat knowledgeable it's free wins.

How am I supposed to find a team i'm comfortable with? I've been testing teams like crazy lately but I can't find something that I actually like, should I just give up on playing this season?

>>31972837
Do you have any pokemon you like using? Start there.

>>31965856
the university im going to has a pokemon society
what are the chances it's a bunch of plebs

>>31972847
Uh I like using Araquanid a lot I guess, but i'm not too fond of TR for the most part. So I don't really see me being able to utilize it properly desu.

>>31972864
oh yeah I enjoy using Koko a decent bit aswell, but I usually always feel like there's just better options than it while team building

UK streaming about to start

>>31973330
Fuck, I was about to sleep. Well, guess I'll breed a bit while watching a couple of matches.

>>31973340
Link?
Also, anyone here have a 5* rare kitchen?

>>31973390
Nevermind, found it.
Anyone hoping for their bro to show up? Hoping someone can make good use of vikavolt. Surprisingly bulky and hits pretty hard. OHKOs specially defensive celesteela if it's carrying a life orb.

Oh goddamnit, this commentator is such garbage.
UH
UH
I remember him doing something even more obnoxious constantly and just not understanding the game at all last time we saw him.

Oh that's right, he doesn't ever know what the fuck he's talking about.
>asks why porygon2 isn't trick rooming after its been taunted
>talked before the match about how fucking primarina is one of the most used pokemon in vgc
>points out stupid basic shit anyone watching can understand
>awful accent

>game decided by kartana speed tie
japanese paipuh of hearty meta

>>31969632
For Europe it was 275 CP.

Effectively that meant winning one Regional + finishing in the top 16 of another got you a invite which sounds pretty reasonable. Or even finishing second in 2 Regionals would be enough.

>>31972864
If you don't want to run TR with Araquanid you're pretty much stuck with trying to play it defensively (not advisable with Koko being more common than ingame Zubat's) or one of those utterly insane special variations.

tfw 0-1 after r1

who else /sheffield/ here?

>>31968325 here

I regret making these changes

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>>31973836
I told you bro >>31968357

Lele really hits like a pussy without the terrain.

Time to scrub it up at regionals wish me luck

>>31974100
Do your best anon!

Eevee BTFO

Based Sableye

>>31974110
I wish Sableye was better in doubles, I remember when it got some usage in VGC 2016 with Prankster+Gravity.

>>31974201
Sableye has a pretty good doubles support niche. It's not tip top but it's not shit either.

>Krookodile Taunt misses on Sableye because of the Muddy Water acc drop
Holy shit

Eevee completely BTFO

>>31974110
>someone literally fell for the Eevee meme

>Trying to Prankster a Dark Type
Embarrassing!

>>31965950
This is some delicious bait, but you know VGC is literally hosted by TPCi right?

>>31974275
>Replying to a day old shitpost

>Bulldoze Arcanine

>Setting up CM instead of fucking killing them
He fucked up.

>Clutch Crit
SKILL
K
I
L
L

Eeveefags BTFO

>>31969918

At least way back in the day, when the only simulator was NetBattle, Brazilians made up a sizable portion of the competitive Pokémon community. I know they have huge tariffs and shit that makes it harder to get the actual hardware to play the game, but I'm still surprised we haven't seen more from that quarter.

>allah akbar

>March 2017
>Oranguru

what did he mean by this?

>>31974596
>march 2017
>explosion metagross

Truly a cringe master

qt on stream

>>31974635

>plays the opposite gender play character

lol fag

But where are the streams?

>>31974635
yeah, jeremy's pretty cute

>>31974725
https://www.twitch tv/pokemonvgc_eu

>>31974201
Sableye is still decent but there isn't much to be done when GF's idea of game balance is to make a entire field effect that just bans an entire style of play.

>>31974725
>https://www.twitch tv/pokemonvgc_eu
>>31974737
What about St. Louis though? Serebii's link leads to a ded stream.

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I was in London last December at the internats and I talked with the girl who was on the stream cause we were at same hostel, I managed to be extremely awkward as English is not my primary language lmao.

>EU streams finally using different break music

>>31974792
Not sure, anon. I can't seem to find a St Louis stream either

>playing bulk Arcanine
>Calm Aguav
>Snarl, Burn Up, Roar, Will-O-Wisp

Is it a meme?

>>31974894
Nah. It's a little bit old, but it's not bad by any means.

>>31974843

multi pokemonvgc_eu/pokemon

>>31974894
It works fine, it was what most people ran at the start of the year when Gyarados was the top Intimidator and it had the effect of lasting a long time, not suffering from recoil and bypassing Intimidate.

You'd be surprised at some of the shit a Calm Arcanine can survive.

>solo'd by Porygon2 in both games

>>31975000
Thanks anon

>>31965950
Not sure if good or bad bait.

I told y'all Bulu was still good

F U C K G E R M A N A C C E N T

At least if your English is that bad, the previous German commentators English is not that great but at least he doesn't have that annoying ass heavy accent..

Just got home

What have I missed? Any fun teams?

>>31975365

It was only good because nobody really plans around it anymore. Also Adam's team had no way to deal with Trick Room or Arcanine really. It was easy to rip it apart. Surprised really he went 4-0 until this.

>>31975111

Pretty much. Adam had no way to deal with Porygon2 in any form and was completely bodied by it. Ouch....

>>31974623
I faced a normal gem explosion metagross on battlespot. I had to look up whether normal gem was even in the game.

It also didn't KO my fini.

>>31975748
>It was only good because nobody really plans around it anymore.
Then that means it is good. Welcome to metagame evolution.

>Spaniard with a flag
Why are Spaniards always like that? I swear they are more obnoxious about their nationality than Americans.

>>31975775
They're proud to be from a country most people sleep on? I see nothing wrong with that. Amerifats on the other hand always carry their flag everywhere even though they don't need any recognition.

>>31975788
Nah, I've interacted with tons of Spaniards and I can confirm. Spaniards think themselves to be the hottest shit in the world and everyone should know that because Spain da bes. Their holier than thou attitude is insufferable.

>tfw not there
;(

Jesus Christ, the German commentator is painful to listen to.

>>31975821
It would actually be more pleasant if he just spoke in German even if wouldn't understand anything.

>>31975768

Its too early to tell actually. But in a speed and terrain obsessed meta with Celesteela seeing less us, it is a good choice.

But Arcanine and Muk can still check it, as can some Garchomp with Poison Jab.

Did this fuck just say it's chilly?
It's nice out right now

Should have just spammed Recycle until Fini went down

What's the chances of getting laid at one of these events?

>>31975865
If you're gay, probably high.

>>31975865
With a girl? Pretty much none.

With a guy? Nearly guaranteed.

>>31975865
Literally everyone there is an autist

>>31975870
>>31975877
>>31975881

>tfw no pokegf

>>31975881
not really, there are lots of fine people there at least here in EU, America prolly has naturally more autists though.

>>31975865
>laid in a Pokemon event
That doesn't make any sense.

>it's a mirror match
of course it is

>nails is one of those faggos with an all shiny team

Not surprised desu.

>"Stealth Rock isn't viable in Doubles!"

>>31975951
hi verlis

>>31976019
I don't care about injecting, but if you're gonna do it, at least don't make it so obvious.

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is there any good set for a physical koko?

>>31976040
I was trying
>Wild Charge
>Brave Bird
>U-Turn
>whatever else
it was okay

>>31976040
>Finally, an interesting Assault Vest physical set consisting of Wild Charge, Sky Drop, U-turn, and Nature's Madness was utilized by Mike Suleski. This Tapu Koko acted as a sturdy Electric check and a situational rain check while being able to break through Calm Mind Tapu Fini thanks to Wild Charge and its increased Special Defense.

From Athens Reg.

>>31976040

Not until it gets Zing Zap and/or Play Rough

>Tectonic Rage Gyarados
>Interesting tech
Is this guy still living in 2016?

>Crits hits on Lele
JUST

>Haha look at my Metagross I totally didn't steal it from Shoma's team I'm so original!

>>31976288
shoma didn't have metagross. if you're gonna shitpost, get your facts straight first

>>31976288
>Shoma's
It's Sejun. And it has Rock Polish instead of Agility. Obviously a different set

Nice overprediction faggot

.>tapu koko used twinkle tackle
>why isnt gyarados using its z-move??????

these fucking commentators

Man, do none of these people know it is possible to shave those neckbeards? Or are the neckbeards the real players? Because seriously

>Doing the Z-Move dance IRL
Cringe as fuck

>>31976557

>says the anon on 4chan

Adrive getting BTFO

How did this shitter manage to beat Wolfe and Cybertron? He got dominated completely.

>Getting comebacked by a fucking meme squirrel
Sad!

>>31976623
He outplayed Wolfey (he was playing like shit, but aDrive made good plays nonetheless).
And if you want to beat Cybertron, just play him on stream.

Man, Andrew guy makes some really good reads.

>>31976515
it's like wobbuffet, the body is a decoy and the neckbeard is the brain

>>31976623
both of them were having mentality issues, underestimating his predictions and team

also wolfe was effectively using 5 mons because of how garbage alolan exeggutor is

Grill on St Louis stream

>Had the game in lock
>Recovers for no fucking reason at all instead
For what fucking purpose

>FRZ

thats what you get for stalling, fagoot!

>Betting on speed-ties to win

Arash on Sheffield

Wasn't he gonna stop playing this year?

Rob really coming through in that match and beating Arash. That burn was so clutch but so was that speed tie win. Finally a good battle.

>Girls in charge of being good at Pokemon

Kebab has been removed.

Those Snorlax with Belly Drum are scary as fuck to deal with.

>>31977096
I fucking hate Snorlax. Annoying bulky ass piece of shit, bust most of all, I hate those goddammned 50% berries, they are the real pain in the ass, specially with fucking Gluttony.

>>31965950
What is Smogon's cash prize?

>replying to bait

>>31977138
1st: $500 (US Dollars) + Smogon Shirt
2nd: $300 (US Dollars) + Smogon Shirt
3rd-4th: $200 (US Dollars) + Smogon Shirt
5th-8th: $50 (US Dollars) + Smogon Shirt

Also, entry is free.

Haven't really been watching Cybertron's vids lately, I forgot how young his voice still sounds

>>31977213
That's asian fuccboi genes for you.

>>31977213
Cybertron is cute! Cute!

>>31976978
this format is pretty similar to the BW formats and has actual money in it now, no veteran in their right mind would refuse to play this year

>>31977228
>no veteran in their right mind would refuse to play this year
I'm referring to his whining during the UK International after he got rekt and how the circuit was shit and how he was not gonna play anymore because he wouldn't be able to make it to worlds.

https://twitter.com/Mean_vgc/status/807585551549366272

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Poor Bulu, all the other Tapus prefer to invite a cottonball rather than him.

>Whimsicott is not Prankster
What the fug

>>31977258
it's too busy anyway making the top cut in UK

>>31977243
fucking italians

>Screenpeeker made top cut at Sheffield
Reeee

>>31977270
If it was it would get cucked by Lele, so it makes some sense when you're running it as a Lele support.

>>31977329
I completely forgot about that. Thank you.

>>31977270

>beats Lele and Dark types
>already faster than most of the meta

I believe it.

>>31977282
>Arash
>Italian

>>31977347
>beats Lele
?????

This Whimsicott is crazy. Favorite mon I've seen today.

Jesus Christ he actually OHKO'ed Porygon 2, what a madman

>>31977364

*isn't completely useless in the presence of

this guy is pretty cool

>>31977277
It did? How?

>>31977560
Alejandro Gomez ended 7-1, and I understand he's using it

>>31965856
ashton the fedoralord on stream

running xurk but besides that has an uncharacteristically standard team

good for him

Holy shit just how old is that fat fuck? He looked like 30 at least.

>>31977325
he didn't

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That team seems unique

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>Electivire
>Pikachu
>He's 5-0
Absolute madman. How is he doing it?

>20+ year old manchild doing the Z-Move dance IRL
Truly cringe.

>>31978322
>16 year old max underage that cringes at people just trying to have fun
Truly sad.

>>31978337
>Being this mad
Did it close to home?

>>31978357
>implying i'm mad
Try harder underage.

>>31978308
Holy shit he's gotten so fat since the last time I saw him. Jon Hu I mean.

>>31978313
He's Jon Hu. That's all the explanation you need.

>>31975835
To be honest it feels like Muk use is getting less because of Z-Chomp basically fucking the thing over so hard simply by existing.

>>31976059
I've seen that set in action and it's actually pretty great surprisingly can take a hit and disrupts like crazy.

>>31977270
It's got 116 speed, that puts it like in the upper echelons of this meta, literally the only things of any relevance which can outspeed it are Scarf users and Koko and it pretty much farts support moves because it has so many it doesn't know what to do with most of them.

It was a matter of time once someone figured out how they wanted to use it and on a technicality it has the fastest non-situational Tailwind available. Though obviously not of relevance with a non-Prankster one.

>Getting psyched by the Pikachu and obviously going for it
Sad!

>4-0 by a Koko+Pikachu
JUST
U
S
T

>people said this format was shit and unoriginal
>pikachu is 6-0 at a NA regional

Apologize

>>31978765
Pikachu always tops in at least one or two events every year. Stop being a newfag.

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>>31978777
>why don't you know the things that I know

>>31978805
Then inform yourself before spouting ignorant crap, retard.

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>>31978819
The pikachu post wasn't my post. You should take some advice I once heard. "Then inform yourself before spouting ignorant crap, retard."

>>31978893
>I-It was not me honest!
Stay mad, ignorant retard.

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>>31978914
>I-im not a pikachu shitposting I promise

shoma core

>Z-Fly Mence
Is this Singles?

>>31979530
It's pretty strong, but it really needs some flying STAB that's not shit

>This last match
Thomas got JUST super hard

How did Jon Hu end?

>>31980210
He was 7/1 before the final round, but I don't think we have info on if he won is last game yet.

>>31980264
Is there another stream going on or is this all from earlier?

>>31980313
there was a stream on the main pokemon channel, but its over now

>>31980340
Did it include that mushmouthed german retard commentating? This is important.

>>31980374
Not him, but last time I checked, there was a britbong in there, and that's about it.

>>31979530
who was the guy playing that? I couldn't catch the stream but I want to look it up

>>31980374
No, he wasn't there. it was Aaron and some other people who can actually speak english.

www.twitch dot tv/sejun_park
Sejun is steaming ATM if anyone is interested

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>>31980489
>>31980473
>>31980399
>>31980374
>>31980340
>>31980313
Sheffield https://twitter.com/theVGCtop16/status/838143763830681601

Pic relate is St Louis

>>31980775
Sejun is actually decent at english. I'm surprised.

>>31967264
Better question is why snorlax doesn't get slack off

>>31965856
Sheffield top 8 under way @pokemonvgc_eu

>>31982081
Damn so early.

What other tournaments will be streamed today? And approximately what time?

>>31982116
St Louis Regionals top cut (on pokemon @Twitch). Serebii has it beginning at 16:30 GMT

>25 minutes into the set
>no KOs in the 2nd game yet
Bulu teams are not good for spectators

>>31982453
Actually 43 minutes now that balkduck (another culprit together with Gastrodon) is finally dead

>>31982453
>>31982471
Also a lot of switching to reset the Toxic counters

>10 minutes for game 3 with these stally teams
Well this actually might be interesting, timer is probably what they have to play for from turn 1

Anyone watching the stream?

>>31982571
>>31982575
>>31982601
>>31982609
>still posting this
November meta is old news

>>31982615
here la

>two native speakers
finally

bulu coming back from the death

>>31982615
I prefer to watch them after they're done so I can skip through the bullshit of waiting an hour for a fucking match

>>31982817
fuck off

>>31982820
I'm sorry you like listening to the same soundtrack that's played at every streamed event during the ridiculously long breaks
It's also convenient because I work and cant catch them live most of the time, nor is devoting almost twelve hours to waiting for one of these to fully play out a good use of anyone's time.

>>31982837
This is top cut though, the time between matches is much, much shorter

>>31982841
Doesn't change my point, nor does it change the fact that I can go back and watch it whenever I feel like it.

>>31982860
>I prefer to watch them after they're done so I can skip through the bullshit of waiting an hour for a fucking match
>an hour

Your point was built upon that pretty much

>>31982878
Have you never heard of exaggerations?
Even then I'm looking at a stream right now and there's 30 or 40 minutes between some of the rounds.

>>31982897
That wasn't the point, it does sometimes take quite close to an hour in Swiss. What I'm saying is that you were saying long dead times was why you're reluctant to watch live streams, and I frankly don't remember any match from Sheffield today taking that long to start (weren't you implying you don't watch those anyway?).

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Make your bets /vgcg/, which Pokémon will dominate Worlds this year?

Wasn't looking for a minute, how did Nolan manage to lose this?

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>that 1 hp sub

>not bringing Mudsdale to g2

What did he mean by this?

>>31982986
What do you mean by that?

>>31982924
classic koko

would you that judge?

bald britbong commentaror a qt

>>31982996
>Pory2, Araquanid, Celesteela, Ninetales
>all of which are massively threatened by Magnezone or do fuck all to it

At a pretty early point he should've just fished for freezes desu

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Been out of the loop since January (when the Fini bandwagon started dying out) due to exams, has something important happened since then?

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>>31983028
>Fini bandwagon started dying out

>>31983028
Shoma Honami completely dominated an invitational and made Drifblim a thing

>>31983028
>>31983041
>>31965856

>>31983041
Drifblin has been a thing even before that invitational. Because of Shoma, even the normiest normie in the VGC community knows of it now.

>>31983028

check these out:
>>31982571
>>31982575
>>31982601
>>31982609

>>31983058
this crap isn't even relevant anymore

Anyone know if St. Louis is still going on and where to watch it?

>>31983088
pokemon official channel on twitch, starting soon

>>31983088

>>31982129

>>31983058
you post this shit every second thread

>>31983041
>>31983049
>>31983055
I assume it's evasion + baton pass shenanigans?

>>31983109
>>31983113
Thanks anons.

>>31983121
That's a thing too, but casuals only use Seed + Terrain and set up a Tailwind.

>>31983055
'A thing' as in placed high in MSS's or something like Murkrow and Buzzwole which you know might one day have a niche in the right setup?

>>31983121
no, terrain seeds with Unburden lets it set up Tailwind on turn 1 without any threats

>>31983158
>>31983134
Thanks

>>31965856
IS IT THE VGC WORLD COMPETITION?
NO?
THEN
NO
ONE
AND
I
MEAN
ABSOLUTELY
NO
ONE
ELSE
ON
THIS
EARTH
ON
THIS PLANET
GIVES
A
TINY
SHIT
ABOUT
THIS
FUCKING
STREAM
EXCEPT
YOU
WHO
ARE
IN
IT
AND
WANT
IT
TO
MATTER
MOTHER
FUCKER
NOW
GO
BURN
AND
DIE
IN
WHOREVISION
HELL
FOREVER

>tapu bulu coming back to life in europe
I like it

>>31983184
>I don't like it therefore NOBODY does!

Seek mental help.

31983184
(not you)

why is that shoma team good?

>>31983237
http://www.trainertower.com/onog-pokemon-invitational-results-teams/

Gives a good explanation

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>>31983237
it's the chalk of our generation

>>31983362
>>31983296
What set does Drimfblim use? Wow, tailwind and?

>>31983385
shadow ball and a filler move. Shoma ran rain dance, you can try other things too

>>31983237
It isn't

>>31983362
Shoma's team is a unique meta shift that will probably die in a few weeks, CHALK was about throwing the best mons together and never stopped being used, 2017's equivalent of it is AFK+Garchomp

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>>31983184

spics dominating UK once again

>>31983407
Yeah, Spaniards sure love the UK. Must be payback for Gibraltar.

Damn he got rekt in the last game

damn this dude is like 40

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Migrate whenever:

>>31983487
>>31983487
>>31983487
>>31983487