/pdg/ - Pokémon Duel General

>>31956393

First for retards who think six EX = good

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news:

>new figures:
[EX]Zekrom
[EX] Reshiram

[R] Flygon
[R]Whimsicott

[UC]Gothita
[UC]Solosis

>new plates
overdrive (for reshiram and zekram)
land energy (for zygarde)

>changes
- buffs to charizard, metagross, zygarde, tyranitar
- magikarp interaction fixed so you can evolve if you can kill it

Has anyone else been cucked by a quad booster?

>>31956420
oh also dragon/fairy type orange timed boosters available for 2 weeks

Are Magikarp/Gyarados available yet?

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>>31956359
>>31956350
Target audience is literal Chads who came here from Pokemon Go.

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what the fuck is this

>>31956424
everyone has
the expected result is a solid cucking
gibles and goth girls are common to get in them at the moment
seemingly arboks and ralts too

>>31956440
Lurk more.

So monthly ranking

does it count your highest monthly ranking in that month or just your current monthly ranking for the ranked rewards

>>31956452
current ranking

gyms use peak rating though so theres no need to worry about dropping in gyms

This isn't even the first time there has been orange boosters you fags

>Save quad until update, to have better chance at new mons
>Fucking Gothitelle.

>>31956469
People are newfags, i've been playing since comaster so it pisses me off to see these people acting like they know shit about the game

>>31956420
>[R] Flygon
is it good?

>>31956473
I've only been playing since English launch

>>31956473
thats why they say ignorance is bliss

>>31956452

>finish February at 2480/monthly 2390
>back to 1500 but still at 2480
>can no longer boost my monthly because I'm just playing against good players
>tfw

>>31956489
I'm pretty sure its factored to scale
so if you just win/lose/win/lose and stay around 2480, your monthly will reach it again

don't quote me though

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>Playing match for promotion to master
>Slight misplay early on, but still very winnable game
>Disconnect

Haha fucking love this game very fun tbqh

i just fought a guy with both new EX, and their plates

first, they get in the field in no time, even if it looks like they won't

second, fuck those plates

once they get going it's a job for purple users, and that removal effect is fucking scary

>>31956511
consider running bounce effects, the plate effect lasts as long as their on board I'm pretty sure

lugia, kirlia
mew's gold becomes a solid defense if they're plated because their min damage becomes 100

>>31956535
>lugia, kirlia
>mew's gold becomes a solid defense if they're plated because their min damage becomes 100

I'm a shitty player hovering around 1700-1800 and Lugia, Kirlia and Mew are really good to get around and defend yourself against the bullshit lineups, glad I pulled them when I first started

Apparently the word "great" at the top of the locked box window mean "throw away 100+
gems without further warning"
Fuck

>>31956587
Great!

>>31956587
great is just your tier
its not a button
you might have tapped the unlock button with your palm or whatever

>>31956600
Having a confirmation prompt would still be nice

>>31956587
Pretty great desu

>>31956587
Great

god, the AI(yours) does some hilariously stupid moves

>>31956452
btw, what was the best thing you guys got from your monthly booster tickets reward?
i got fucking nothing, just UC figures... the extra material is nice i guess?

>>31956440
First time I don't want to pull and EX from a booster

Sexy packs when?

Did they put them up often before the english release?

>>31956632
Probability-wise and tactically, it makes good moves. The problem is that the AI doesn't have the ability to be subjective. So if you have Lati@s, the AI suicides it as if it doesn't have Hallucination. If your best wincon is to timestall, the ai doesn't realize and tries to win

>>31956641
I got NO fucking booster tickets
I don't know what I did wrong I swear to god I thought I was in the range to get at least 1 booster ticket, I guess I wasn't

I'm like 8000th in monthly ranking right now so hopefully that means I get like one booster ticket next month if I hold this

>>31956632
Spamming AI tickets at the start of a duel has worked for me more than it should

>>31956642
what are you hoping for?
flygon?

What's a good replacement for Genesect?

>>31956641
20 tickets, 3 rares including a Sylveon I wanted. Pretty on-par I think.

>>31956649
yeah took notice about that
right now its doing surprisingly well and got itself out of a goal block

>>31956659
i may start doing just that, its fucking outskilled someone and almost won with shuppet

>>31956674
poliwag, greninja , mew, whimsicott are all better if you have them

>>31956683
Yeah. Your team is also probably the biggest factor. It can usually steamroll people in a gym (which is less balanced than the normal meta) if you have a stacked team.

>>31956894

Is Leafeonfriend here?
I wanted to ask him a strategy question

>>31956963
I'm sure others are qualified and perhaps more qualified to answer but yeah I'm here.

>>31956511
It's my goal to get both.already got Zekrom

>>31956641
2 tickets, Hariyama and Rayquaza

>>31956641
Two additional Gothitelle

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>Get Fug, Zekrom, and a Second Reuniclus from the same quad
>Get a Third Reuniclus from a booster ticket
>Just want my bro Flygon

I know have no right to complain, but I'm still kinda bummed

>>31957051
What do you do when your opponent plays defensively with Pokemon that are just stronger than yours?
Sleep and Hurdle Jump don't really matter when your opponent has 2-3 outdamaging Pokemon sitting around their Home.

>>31956929
If you have two Charmeleons, I guess you could try evolve them both and take advantage of Speed Booster. Depends on how much space you have to fill on your team.

I've recently noticed how stupidly easy it is to evolve guys now. I've managed to evolve wartortle 5 times in a row because of the standard 3MP mons running about

Got 3000 material saved up. Should I cash in on an EX or keep saving?

If yes, who should I pick?

SALAMENCE META AGAIN

>>31957428
Considering they gave no shits about directly nerfing the fetus trio, I'd get those.
Then I'd manage the rest of the team to specifically counter Metagross, since as soon he goes away you can shit all over the opponent like usual.

>>31957430
I keep forgetting I have one. Would it replace Kirlia well? I like having a Shuppet blocker though.

>>31957430
What do you mean?

>>31957473
Mence with 3mp

Should I buy two Reunicluses and hope to pull a third later, or just wait till I pull one or two before buying them with materials?

>>31957489
Since when?
Or are you assuming there's going to be a Dragon/Fairy gym next?
Because even if they were, gyms are by no means "the meta" in any definition of the word.
Have fun with your Birds and Deoxys.

>play 2 matches trying to get a orange box
>get 2 rainbow boxes
conflicted feelings about this

>>31957939
Orange boxes don't have guaranteed rares bruh.

I wonder if I'll be able to complete the dragon duo, I'm just 3 quads away from a guaranteed Freshiram and currently at 155 gems

Wait I was on a trip for the last week so I was unplugged, there was a dragonair give away? Fuck one of my favorites and of course I miss it. Was it just in the login bonus?

Anything else interesting that I missed? There was a gym right? Any fun reward in that like Gyarados in the last one?

>>31957939
Orange boxes aren't good.
I've opened two of them so far, since my locked box ended up being orange.
Got nothing.

>>31958028
dragonair was a login bonus
fighting gym exclusive mon was deoxys normal,which is only okay
Reuniclus is the current cancer

holy shit why do I get so mad at a shitty mobile children's game

what's the best story mode stage for grinding for exp?

Is it chateu de rosa stage 10? The prize wheel gives figures for both blue and purple spaces. Usually figures are blue only and plates are purple. This stage is obnoxious though because all of the opponent's figures have moves that move your figures around and give them Wait. It's a team literally designed to waste your time.

What stages are you guys grinding (if at all)?

>>31958032

>tfw i started getting flooded by gooey dragon balls

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>Game won't update
>Uninstall and reinstall
>Forget it's not account bases
>Wait I think I'm good I have the ID string thing it shows on load in screen with all the hotels
>That's just a support ID whatever that is I needs something else
How fucked am I?

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>My Latios two steps away from his entry point
>His Glaceon blocking the path
>His Moltres two steps away from my base
>No other pokémon
>I hurdle jump into his entry point
>Realize two seconds later I fucked up terribly
>For some reason he himself doesn't realize he can just win with Moltres now
>He uses double chance on Glaceon and attacks my Latios
>He fails
>I win next turn

Pure high level play

>>31958409
You update with Qooapp you dingus

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>>31958445
I don't know man. Google Play Store wasn't working. I just woke up when I did it, I wasn't thinking. I realized as soon as I tapped uninstall.

>>31958409
>>31958451
Anon, you should try apkmirror.

I tried it thrice and it just works. Was surprised my account stayed, since I'm out of the region.

is one reuniclus any good?

>>31958494
If you have nothing else to use, yeah since it's a decent attacker. Otherwise no.

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>>31958451
>>31958483 here again.

But seriously, you may want to try getting into contact with the devs somehow. You have screenshots or anything they can use to identify your account? Maybe try IPs, phone ID too?

Gamedevs usually are very reliable when it comes to that.

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Help me build a deck

>>31958535
Glaceon, Glaceon, Glaceon, Vaporeon, Leafeon, Flareon

I just can't do it, I shitspinned all the way from 2100 to 1800 and I continue losing

>>31958544
>opponent places two Pokemon around his home
>you literally can no longer win

>get reuni from a purple booster in middle of gym
>buy two quad packs
>get mew and craft reuni
>run two reuni in gym
>get free ticket today
>it's third reuni
THE DARK SIDE IS CALLING BOY

IT'S TOO TEMPTING

>>31958519
Hopefully the Support ID will be enough. I got no idea what that is though. It's not easy trying to figure out how to email them either.
Anyone done this before that knows a support email address?

How can I beat the fetus trio

WHY
THE
FUCK
IS ALWAYS
THE OPPONENT
TO HAVE ALL THE FUCKING LUCK

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>Orange box
>Ex
>Gardevoir

That's literally the only thing I didn't need from that box.

>Orange box
>Salamence
Hell, it was time

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>>31957369
It happens occasionally where I get a time loss because they camp 3-4 on their goal but not lately. Suicide Shupper can fix that situation a lot of the time and sometimes you can just bait them into spreading back out if they've got too many there. Play fast.

It's more often they have 2 back there while I own their entries and at that point it's just positioning and sending enough bodies until you get lucky since they can't do shit but stall.

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This game was pure luck but I'm glad I could ruin a Reuniclus user.
The first went down due to Shuppet's wow, the other died to Poliwhirl.
The third still gave me trouble even from that fucking spot, if he didn't fuck up a move and let shuppet win, he could have gone for timer stall since anytime I'd get closer he'd plain kill me.

>>31958753
>>31958777
>Orange box
>3rd Sliggoo since update
That's how it goes baby.

So what's more cancer now, 3 Reuni or 3 Deoxys?

>>31958874
I can somewhat handle Deoxys even with a not minmaxed team, and it's not rare for Deoxys-A to fuck himself over with his purple.
Reuniclus for me it's "just forfeit and don't waste 2 minuts of your life" tier.

>>31958874
both, together

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>done all my dailies
>got my ladder booster
>all booster slots filled
>no gym

FUCCCCCK

I JUST WANT TO PLAY

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>31958971
No you want to be rewarded for playing. You can still play however much you want.

>>31958994

Yes that's probably more accurate

>tfw completely addicted to opening boxes

>>31959026
try clash royale if you want to open 3-4 extra boxes per day

>>31958961
But you can have 6 space virus and if you have the plate, it's like having them all over the place.
>>31958965
>both
>together
DO NOT SUMMON THE DEVIL

>>31958971
At least you don't have 3 rainbows like myself. It's been a week already I keep getting rainbows.

Is dark spam with yveltal and multiple weavile viable?

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>Play for promotion to master again after >>31956503 happened
>Tired as shit due to having to pull an all nighter for school, immediately regret finding a match
>Pray for ridiculous luck
>End uo matching against some retard who loses in 2 turns because he mis-positions his Deoxys-Speed and Mew caps his entry point

Need to build an actual functional team though desu

>>31959233
It was one of the top decks before Reuniclus/Deoxys. It's still pretty good.

>>31959244

Latios is shit with all the 140/150 attacks running around. Replace it with another runner, the five figure handicap is too much.

>>31958807
I will never understand how you're doing this.

>>31959374
100% agree. I only kept him around since he was my first figure, but I had to really play carefully with it in higher ranked matches, and I almost always lost if it died.

But yeah I do plan to repurpose the team to include more 3mp mons. At the present it's awkwardly stuck between a team that uses rushing, and a slower balanced team. Might either just buy Deo-A for cosmo memes (since I have N and S ) or Eeveelutions/Whimsicott and Shuppet

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>Make it into Ultra league
>win my next match with a clean sweep, get some points
>barely lose my next match and drop to 2089, below what I was at before I won the game before

>>31959738
It gets worse.
>go 6-4
>down 50 rank

>>31956393
Is Reuniclus a good first pull?

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Is this now OP when combined with reshiram/zekrom?

>>31959790
Three Reuniclus decks is the absolute cancer meta everybody hates right now. So yes.

You need at least 2 though.

>>31959791
interesting secret tech

too bad you need to run 2 for the idea to work

>>31958641
With the fetus trio

>>31959877
>secret tech
No, this was suggested literally the second the news dropped. And you only need one, since you can switch the other one onto the board.

It gets even messier when you try to do that but then also run their specific plate.

I've been working on master for a week but can't get past 2150. I've let my AI tickets run games four times and now I'm at my promotion game. I'm leaving it to those tickets for the promotion.

how do I get the Recycle (EX) plate

>>31960250
is it even available to players

so ive seen evolutions happen without actually knocking out my Pokemon.
whats the strict requirements on that?

>spend 18 gems to open my rainbow early
>glaceon

FUUUUUUUCK YOUYUUYUY GAME

JUST GIVE ME A GOOD EX ALREADY

>>31960311
Apparently you can evolve if you displace the enemy, too. Like Kirlia's displace.

>carlo has blue glow
>another has pink glow
Is Another a girl?

A really manipulative, sassy girl?

what else could they mean by this

>>31958626
http://support.pokemon.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=15227

choose 'ask a question' or 'contact us'
I've never tried it but I'm under the impression your support ID is enough. As far as I'm aware its unique to your account, and it says to screenshot the ID so I'd believe that you can get back your account with that alone

>>31960418
wow you're dumb

>>31959374
>140/150

its 120/130 now if you're talking about reuniclus and deoxys-A

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r8

>>31960668
as a normal deck or for dragon gym?
because its kind of bad for both

>>31960668
2/10
the game auto-forfeits for you when Latios is knocked out.

>>31960668
three Aggron is a really interesting idea but you should definitely not run it with two Gardevoir and maybe not even Latios. If you're gonna use Latios I would throw two other 3mp figures in for maneuverability

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Dragonite WHEN

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Rate my deck

>>31960924
*unzips Zapdos*

I opened a weavile and have enough material for 2 more
I don't own a yvetal or ho oh
Wat do?

>>31961036
well don't craft them.

>>31960870

dragonite is already confirmed to be the reward from the upcoming gym (what deoxys-n was to the last gym)

hold ur horses

>>31961054
upcoming gym WHEN

also its not confirmed is it? just speculated (but likely)

>>31961064
In a week from now.

>>31960418
Glaceon is better than like half of the EXs.

It's no Leafeon of course.

>>31961092
Now if either of those could hit their purples when I needed them to...

>>31961143
Place your faith in the glace and beleaf in the leaf.

>>31961092
>>31961143

and umbreon is better than both

68 combined dodge+purple is bretty gud

>>31961236
Umbreon is underrated but I'd trade the usefulness of sleep vs toxic over 4 extra purple+dodge any day. Opponents are more scared of accidentally hitting sleep than accidentally hitting toxic.

How many glaceons should I use?

>>31961334

three

put points into freeze

is there anything I can use for my phone to auto tap the AI button for me? I'm grinding quest mode but also trying to do actual work. It'd be great to just have something mash the button for me.

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>it costs something ludicrous like £8 per quad booster when you're not even guaranteed anything good

Defend this

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>>31961227
This

fucking last second clutch dodger

>>31961344
What are some pokemon that work well with three glaceons

>>31961394

>he attacked your glaceon instead of 4MPing Deoxys onto goal

What kind of shit elo is this

>>31961365
Just tap it like 30 times when you first start and let it do its thing. You'll get any unused tickets back at the end if the battle.

Wait new gym is dragon right? And they get an attack bonus?

Ducking Latias and Latios. Jesus Christ fucking gacha bullshit.

Also how does dodging stop a mon from flying over?

>>31961412

Something with a big yellow, like Mew or Greninja, along with a big beatstick like Giratina or Deoxys-A

>>31961412
3 Leafeons.

Or Shuppet, Mew, Greninja if you want to be my counterpart.

>>31961423
for quest mode you don't need tickets. You have to keep tapping the button.

>>31960250
Japanese players maybe

>>31961365
tasker maybe (not free)

you can set up a completely automated version pretty easily with airdroid mirroring and autohotkey
I just do it manually for this though

>>31961423
doesnt work for single player mode, you have to press each turn

>>31961435
blue wins over any other color

>>31961435
>Also how does dodging stop a mon from flying over?
Same way dodging somehow stops say Yveltal from powering up with Dark Mist.

>>31961422
people literally let you walk to their goal in a couple of turns pre-2300

>>31961465
he means flavourwise
how would squirtle going in his shell stop latias from flying over him

>>31961422
Shit I just noticed that. I don't remember what was going on since I was rushing to get there. Either way glaceon did what it was supposed to.

>>31961394
>>31961422
>that huge of a misplay when there was a 2:44 difference in clock
Bet he was kicking himself.

Is Dragonair good?

>>31961522

No

Maybe if it's 3MP in gym

>>31961092
What is so great about those two? And which is better or are they both equally good to use together?

>>31961392
I like it. It curbs the game from being overly p2w. The shitty prices also subtly encourage players to be responsible with their spending. People blow hundreds of dollars on points for games like FIFA and get fuck all for it. I enjoy Duel, but I'm glad that I can say that haven't dumped a ton of money into it

>>31961475
>>31961492
Should be dodge, should be distraction/diversion or something.

>>31957628
You blueberry cock nigger, the fetus trio is too good. Even if you have two it's worth it, but I'm hoping for a third if my brother will whale for me and net me some more materials.

>>31961705
>I'm hoping for a third if my brother will whale for me and net me some more materials.

No

>>31961659
They're 3MPs that are relatively hard to kill due to their high purple+blue chance (highest among MP 3s in general) and can induce the two best status effects in the game, either of which can be better than a KO in the right spot.

It's mostly a toss up between the two. I prefer Leafeon because it's 4 slots more likely to land its Sleep inducer than Glaceon is to land its Freeze inducer (Glaceon is 4 slots more likely to land its white which isn't great). As I mentioned freeze/sleep can be a lot better than a KO in the right spot so the difference between freeze and sleep is relatively negligible in my use. Leafeon's ability isn't game changing but it's a nice extra as well.

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>trash pupitar into a fusion
>open a rainbow
>tyranitar

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>31961742
I'll add that if some really strong grass figures are released Leafeons ability will become really good against them, but currently it's just the occasional Chestnaught and maybe a Whimsicott now. So essentially its main use right now is just moving among your own Leafeons, like Genesect's ability.

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>>31961765
>>trash pupitar into a fusion
I don't understand why anyone would do this. If it can have value, why chuck it?

>you'll never be a whale
>you'll never enjoy running 3x 2MP Zygarde during the Dragon Gym
it hurts

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reminder to use your energy for xp fodder whenever gyms arent active

>>31961832
My time will never be worth this little.

>>31961967
>>31961986
it's been in the game nearly 17 hours now anon. We already know everything there is to know.

>>31961990
I know but they just posted that on the twitter and I think the translations are usually funny

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>opponent has me boxed in
>takes my ho-oh with 00:01 on the clock
>my turn
>gren dies
>his turn
>time out win before he can move on to my goal

MY DICK IS FUCKING DIAMONDS

STRATEGY THINKFAGS BTFO, MAKE YOUR MOVE SHITLORDS

>>31961803
The better question is why chuck anything?
For the price of a single booster (in which you probably wouldn't have gotten anything valuable, you can get FIFTY (50) extra slots. Space shouldn't be an issue.

>>31958554
>what is killing either of them

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>>31961742
This my team right now. I also have a Glaceon, but should I take something out for Galceon or just leave it as it is.

Also, what is some general advice I should try to use for this team or just replace in general. I'm thinking of buying two Reunicles with my materials, but I also have a Zekrom from a pull today and am debating on getting Reshiram to get the set and use the two of them to the full potential.

>>31962054
>strategy
>reuniclus

basically as much of a brute force tactic as you can get
literally 'edge these three jellies to the oponents goal until they fall over'

>>31962081
what the hell, guy
take out charizard for glaceon

zekrom + reshiram is cool, but you probably want the plate as well (another 72 gem investment if you're not lucky enough to open one) and possibly a long throw or clear wait which both take up 2 spots each

>>31962081

Swap Glaceon in for Articuno, it sort of does the same thing but it's more mobile and better

The only legendary bird worth anything is Zapdos.

Don't waste your energy on Reuniclus, save up for an EX you want. You are more likely to pull an R in a pack than an EX.

>>31958535
2 glaceon
Lugia
Lucario
Greninja
????

>>31962054
>having to think while playing Reuniclus.dek
well done you beat a retard.

So should I take Raltz off of my team?

I have Kirilia attached to it, but I almost never get the chance to evolve it.

>>31960668
i'd like to see that in action

>>31962081
Definitely Glaceon for Charizard for now. Also level up your figures, shit.

>>31962173
yeah just use kirlia

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how is this deck?

>>31962252
3/10 you can get one win every 4 games you play with it.

>>31962252
swipe left to make a new one

How good is Magikarp -> Gyarados?

>>31962286
pgood. Karp can sit on goals and not die.
Gyar can kill some things.

how good is pichu>pikachu (r)>raichu

>>31962286
play with 2 hurdle jumps and rush with magikarp

>>31962363
>rush with a 2mp mon

>>31962363

are you retraded

send a 3MP up the board and switch karp in

>>31962368
you don't understand.
I doesn't die unless you kill it twice.
And it's strong the 2nd time.

>>31962353
is not rare pikachu better than raichu?

>>31962353
not good if your rank is over 1700

>>31962384
you dont understand
by the time karp is halfway up the board theres already an enemy on your goal

>>31962396
no mate everyone puts something in front of Karp.
If they don't you can block them anyway.

>>31962406
literally will only work on people as braindead as karp itself

>>31962412
yeah okay whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>31962406
why would i put something in front of a 2mp mon instead of rushing with my 3mp?

>>31962434
Okay. You move your 3MP down the other line.
I move something in front of it. Great work.
What next? Hurdle Jump?
I move in front again. Or better yet just knock it out.

>>31962452

>he's still defending magikarp rush

Yeah no just stop

You either use switch to bring it in upfield, or defend with it. MP2s make bad rushers no matter what they are.

>>31962452
yeah, and where is magikarp? still on your bench

>>31962495
no mate it's on the other line.
you said yourself.

>why would i put something in front of a 2mp mon instead of rushing with my 3mp?

meaning you would rush the other side while Karp is in the other line.

Got 600 gems saved, current quads are shit right?

>>31962470
yes great refute. you really got me there.

Speed Booster Metang WHEN

>>31962512
at your entry point anon, that was the answer
because you wasted your turn(s) blocking and knocking out my 3mp mon, and then i sent another one and you try to stop it
nice """""rushing""""" you have there

>>31962514
yeah i just blew my 400 saved on shit. although the two mawile i pulled are kinda neat

>>31962514
yes, keep saving

>>31962452
My 3mp mons usually have purple attack.

Either the opponent is too intimidated to take any immediate action, or they miss, get effected.

Either way, they tay on the first spawn point while my second 3mp takes the second.

Meanwhile, all I have to do is hop over Magikarp, and reach your goal. Even if you fight me to evolve, I'm still faster than you.

>>31962539
>Wasted my turns stopping your figure from winning
Let's recap.

Your last turn was moving the 3MP near my goal.
So that means the board looks like

Karp on my spawn.
2MP attacker in a side line.
And you have nothing.

When you move the 3MP up my lane, I move Karp up the lane next to it. Whatever you do next, I can jump over, and you risk losing.

>>31962550
What are you on about? If you freeze Karp, I heal it next turn. Now I have another figure on my defense and nothing has changed. I got a free figure out.

You don't have 3MP on both my spawns randomly. Explain your situation.

>>31962512
>>31962539
>>31962550
Rush Magikarp is pretty patrician but sadly wouldn't do all that well compared to other strategies.

rush magikarp


hahahahahaha

>>31962606
>karp on my spawn 2MP attacker in a side line and you have nothing

No, it would go like this
>first move magikarp on your spawn
>second move 3mp pokemon 2 steps away from your other spawn
>third move you block the 3mp pokemon with one of yours
>4th move another 3mp is moved 2 steps away from the spawn point where your magikarp is
what do you do?

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>>31962614
My thoughts exactly.

>>31962649
Move Karp right in front of your 2nd 3MP.

If you jump over Karp, I jump over again. Now it's defensive.

>>31962606
Turn 1: Throw a figure 2 or 3 on the point diagonal from the spawn. 3 is preferred in case the strategy goes south.

Turn 2: send a 3 Mp towards their goal. More than likely, they will send out a pokemon to block you one step ahead of the goal without attacking.

Turn 3: Jump them and land on their goal . Either they will attack, hop over you, block you with they first pokemon they sent out, or use goal block to be safe..

Turn 4: repeat step 2.

Turn 5: Use the first pokemon you sent out to surround the second pokemon you hopped over

Turn 6: win

Doesn't work all the time though. And when it doesn't, I still have a 3 defending my goal.

>>31962672
Meant to say

>Step 4: Repeat 2 &3

>>31962668
>If you jump over Karp, I jump over again. Now it's defensive.
And now your magikarp rush is over and you have to move your gyarados from inside your goal lane, good job!

>>31962672
What are you doing mate?
In between turns 1 and 2, I put down a 2MP attacker diagonal from my spawn. You can't jump over since you're diagonal from your spawn, and you can't get to my spawn or goal.
You likely die if you attack and if you roll purple, I fix it up next turn.

>>31962697
I should've added that you send the 3mp though the lane opposite of the one you threw out you first Pokemon.

can y'all do a room match for this karp shit and stop arguing with this idiot?

>>31962716
but... but... the bait!, we must bite it!

>>31962689
Yes, in that situation, the rush wouldn't work.
But even then, I lose nothing. It's just a defensive Gyar. The usual.

I don't even have to move Gyar, it's still blocking your 3MP. I can just move my 2MP attacker up or move a new figure up.

Now, this situation won't always happen, because 1/10 people expect rush Karp, so they don't plan that. Your plan moves me into a normal situation rather than a rushing one.

>>31962716
yeah because this thread is absolutely brimming with discussion and this damn argument is mucking it up.
Knobhead.

>>31962735
It's all fun and games until you hit a purple, or get matched up with Shelgon or Deoxys.

>>31962716
>>31962730
What bait? Why stop? What's wrong with two people arguing about viability and strategy in the general?

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Now what pal?
Nice rushing you have there

>you're bored and autistic enough to do this

>>31962735
>But even then, I lose nothing. It's just a defensive Gyar. The usual.
but you do, if the opponent jumped your magikarp and landed on your spawn point then after you jump over him he can hurdle jump the first 3mp that was blocked by your figure and land on your other spawn point, and now you're fucked with only 2 figures in your board.

>>31962748
well what idiot tries to use a gimmick rush on any Deoxys deck anyway? I'm using this if I'm facing those rank 2200 guys with basic decks.

>>31962716
Yeah! Let's get back to pointless bitching about Deoxys and Reuniclus and how we didn't pull that EX we really wanted.

>tfw no pokeduel gf

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you can't fucking rush with a 2MP

holy shit do you have any idea how retarded this makes you seem

>>31962761
I'd put down move Karp FORWARD when you place Glace down. Not to the side. I said that already up above.

>>31962762
The first 3MP is dead because I killed it with something that frequently kills it like a double chance Magmortor.

>>31962794
Yeah you really showed me with that sick picture of god and the insult. Thanks for adding to the discussion.

>>31962803
That's assuming the opponent is dumb enough to open a game by putting a pokemon in range of attack.

Build me a metagross deck boys

>>31962803
>I'd put down move Karp FORWARD when you place Glace down.
then i win next turn since you didnt protect and youre still 5 places away from my goal

>>31962814

>implying I wanted to discuss it with you

Nah I just wanted to point out how retarded you appear

>>31962821
How so? Karp blocks Glace and Mence blocks Leaf. You're not in a winning situation.

>>31962820
wait for beldum and evolve

>>31962803
>The first 3MP is dead because I killed it with something that frequently kills it like a double chance Magmortor.
what if it was an eeveelution and it landed a dodge?

>>31962833
congratulations i jumped you and glaceon is a turn away from winning

>implying you can't just kill gyarados with any big beatstick (or gren/mew)

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I fucking love magmortar. Fuck your ko to evolve karp bullshit

Next turn Ho-oh moved back to attack magmortar and got flame gunned in the face, I won

>>31962826
"Hey guys I think this is a good strat."
"No twat look here, if I do this---"
"No but look I can do this---"
"No no no, look here---"

"WOW YOU'RE SO DUMB THAT WOULD NEVER EVER WORK"

yeah okay, I'm the dumb one.

>>31962839
Then I attack next turn when you jump and if it rolls dodge again it was RNG that screwed the pooch, not because the strat was bad.

>>31962840
I already went through this wit the other fellow. I jump with Karp and now it's just defensive like it normally is. I've lost nothing.

>>31962862

Your epic magikarp sweep might work vs literal retards but no competent player will ever get rushed by a 2MP lol.

>>31962871
please refer to any other post I've made that says something along the lines of-
"Wow you really proved my wrong with that rebuttal."

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>>31962835
that'll be nice

>>31962862
yeah and you didnt rush like you planned so now i just wait for the time out

also if you are in the inner corner there is no way you can reach the goal jumping over my glaceon
if anything you land next to your goal and then i jump you again and win

>>31962879

I have no interest in "proving you wrong" because this isn't retarded

I'm just saying you strat is stupid and suboptimal, which it is.

>>31962896

this isn't Reddit*

>>31962896
>because this isn't retarded
oh contrare

wait is someone actually arguing that a 2 movement figure can rush

in the time it takes you to do that I've already won lol what the fuck

>>31962886
Oh my bad, I assumed you jumped towards the spawn. Alright, if you jump there, I take my Deo-A, roll up Double Chance, and hopefully knock you out.
It knocks you out a good amount of the time, and then I'm in a great position over you.

>>31962879
ok, seriously, i think you should make a room and test it out with other people here, that way you can prove your point.

>>31962929

see

>>31962915

>>31962942

this. But from what I've seen this gen seems to be 2400s+ that would just shit on your meme strat.

>>31962855
Should I invest my materials in Magmator; or just wait and see what else comes up?

>>31962942
I'm lying in bed on laptop. I'm not going downstairs to get my phone off the charger to prove a point that a fun gimmick rush is somewhat viable.

>>31962896
>I'm not trying to have an intellectual discussion because this isn't Reddit
okay whatever floats your boat.

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Finally
Now to go all the way

>>31962937
>implying i didnt freeze/dodge your deoxis, nice game pal

>>31962965
leaving your phone charging all night
its one bad decision after the other isn't it?

>>31962965

>being this concerned with proving your point to anonymous people

this isn't the right place for LOGIC and REASONING friend

Fuck it.

052

Come on by and fill up my impudent asshole.

I'm not the Karp rush guy. I just have angried-up blood

>>31962965

>he's scared of getting shat on after shitposting his epic meme strat all thread

top fucking kek

>>31962986
304-659-770

>>31962981
>implying i didnt freeze/dodge your deoxis, nice game pal
Well I mean with the ability Deo-A has that'd sure be some tough luck, yeah.

>leaving your phone charging all night
well I mean it works for me so I can have charge when I go out in the morning. I can just buy a new battery. Worth it in my eyes.

>this autistic argument
>yet not autistic enough to actually do the roll calculations
lazy autism, the worst form of autism.

>>31962997
yeah okay mate whatever you'd like if it makes you feel superior to me. I don't care for it.

>>31962985
Well I like the game and the threads are empty wastelands so really something to talk about is better than nothing.

>>31962977
Wait, what is that?

>>31963029
well I'm discussing it in the thread. I think it's going quite smoothly.

>>31963029
>>31963043
I volunteer to serve as arbiter if someone summarizes the argument for me.

>>31962997
And I really wouldn't call trying to have a smart conversation for once in these threads "shitposting."

>>31963057
well basically, if you go ahead with Karp on turn one, you can use Karp as a rusher whenever it's safe to do do with Hurdle Jump and the fact that it has two lives.
It works on the basis that nobody expects it, and even if they do that worst that can happen is I get some bad luck and lose. The roll that determines my win or loss in the situation where they know it's Rush Karp is largely in my favor.

>>31962998
>>31962986
Thank you for making me realize I forgot to take that Ralts off my team.

My butt is full. Thank you.

>>31962998

Good game friend

If you were more aggressive with your hurdle jumps you might have won that.

>>31963060

>wahhh why won't people agree with me on an anonymous imageboard

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Make me a deck with these memetoys

>>31963077
>The roll that determines my win or loss in the situation where they know it's Rush Karp is largely in my favor.
Specific example?

>>31963091

Gren Shuppet Squirtle Leafeon filler

>>31963087
>>wahhh why won't people agree with me on an anonymous imageboard
No bellend, I'm not mad that people don't agree with me. I'm quite pleased that the thread is doing something actually.
People don't have to agree with me, I just don't want people to think that it's a zero% fail everytime, because that's just not true.
But again, whatever helps you think your better than me. I could care less about some anon thinking that.

>>31963087
Yeah, I could've hopped Quiliden. But I thought I could get him to evolve.

It's just too tempting.

>>31963091
Leaf, Greninja, Vaporeon, Reuniclus, Shuppet, and .

>>31963108

>I could care less
>he's still replying

Well you obviously do care

Nobody ever said it was 0% fail always, it's just pretty shit. A full starter deck might get you a win every few games but that doesn't make it good.

>>31963094
Deo-A with Double Chance vs. an Eeveelution of any kind

I take Mew out of the equation because I see from the team preview and I'm not taking dumb risks of gimmick rushes when they have hard checks to my best defense.

>>31963112

Not quiladin because I can just move leafeon straight through it (grass)

Putting your mon on spawns was smart though. Side rushes where somebody put something right in front of me + I hurdle wins so many games it's crazy

>>31963137
I asked for a specific example, not "here's two Pokémon that could theoretically battle each other at some point". Describe a series of actions and their results.

What I think is happening here is that you've already thought out the way this works in your head, so what you're saying makes complete sense to you, but it's vague and incoherent for the rest of us.

>>31963156

this desu

Seriously karpfag just play someone here already

>>31963125
I could care less-- about what you think of me.
Not I could care less about your inputs.
I can still talk to somebody and not care how the view me.

>>31963156
Well I mean it was pretty thoroughly discussed. Someone even drew pictures.
I assumed you knew that already.

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>>31963137
Completely uninvolved in this conversation but amusingly just won a game in part thanks to a Leafeon not dying to a double chance Deoxys A like right as you posted that.

>>31963173
Then you assumed incorrectly. (I _did_ explicitly ask for a summary of the argument, and still haven't really gotten one.)

>>31963180
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>>31963175
Tough luck for that guy. He rolled two purples in a row yeah? That was in his favor, which is why he did it yea?

>>31963181
okay read the thread.

>>31963173

Nigga I really don't care about you but I'm just saying your strat is shit which it is

Until proven otherwise (by playing someone or demonstrating it somehow) then your points are really quite redundant

>>31963189
>okay read the thread.
I'm not going to. I said I'd volunteer as a neutral party in your little argument if someone provided me with a summary.

>>31963189

>I won't debate you, j-just read the thread!

yeah fuck off

>>31962956
If your talking about buying him with material, then id say it depends on your play style. He's a high risk, high reward type of guy. He can come up short sometimes (who doesn't) but he more than makes up for it if you use him properly. So if you ain't the gambling type (in an rng based game lol) then he may not be for you. No nerfs and no direct counters, so I think he's still s-tier.

If you like gambling then he's a fun figure that can pull off great plays.

>>31963189
Nah it was purple vs purple then he rerolled to white and I rerolled back to purple again then trapped with Greninja. I killed his other Deo A earlier.

>>31963196
Well I mean yeah it did demonstrate how and it really boils down to a roll that's in my favor.
And that's the worst case scenario where they know it's karp rush, which they really don't.

>>31963221

Except you didn't demonstrate it because somebody asked you to and you just told them to read the thread because you couldn't be bothered

The only way karp rush would ever be remotely viable is just running a 3MP up the board and Pokemon switching it in. It's too slow to play the pressure game otherwise.

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>>31963208
I don't what to just repeat the whole damn thing. Literally exactly what you want is like 20 posts up. Just go read it.

>>31963217
Oh my bad then.

>>31963248

nobody's asking you to repeat the whole thing

just provide 1 (one) example

or is that too much for your brain to handle

>>31963240
I can't be bothered because anyone can clearly see it with three mouse scrolls.
It's like if someone asked you how to do something like build a paper airplane. Just look it up man I'm not explaining it when you can see for yourself.

>>31963258
can't you get it though your skull that I already gave the example, and it was a pretty long example too, so I'd rather you just take 5 seconds and look and the previous 30 posts.

>>31963263
>>31963275

Still waiting on the example

>>31963275
The thing is, though, that if you can't be bothered to explain it to me now (or even just copy and paste your previous posts together, so I don't have to sort through them and figure out whose posts are whose), then I'm not interested in discussing it. If you want someone to discuss it with you, you're going to have to make a concession in that regard.

I guess all the people that want to talk about it and not act like a child that needs to be spoon fed everything have moved to the other thread.

>>31963304

>I win the argument if I don't reply to them!!1

STILL waiting on your example.

so does zekrom fucking suck?

>>31963458
They're both garbage

What should I use in a rush Magikarp deck?

What shoud I replace Leafeon and Glaceon with? I need a cheap 3MP that doesn't job constantly. and isn't Shuppet.

>>31961664
>The shitty prices also subtly encourage players to be responsible with their spending.

People unironically say this?

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what did she mean by this
>>31963491
>garbage
>when clear wait exists

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>6 hotels for Gold Attacks to show up in the campaign
Does she sparkle when she wakes up?

move to the new trash thread guys

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