thoughts?

>>31949158
They cut the bicycle. Misty has been retconned out of existence.

>>31949158
no fat pikachu? no thanks

>>31949158
Is Misty still a bitch about the whole bike thing, or is she aware that it was a life-or-death situation this time?

Reboot

>>31949193
Misty isn't canon in this movie

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>>31949180
>>31949200
>tfw Serenafags won

>>31949200
Well at least it has that going for it

>>31949158
t-that's a lot of spearow

>>31949193
I never got why Misty was being such a cunt about that anyway? Did she not see the huge flock of birds chasing Ash or something?

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>>31949158
Fat pikapika is best pikapika

Why are all the nostalgia fags Spanish? Spamming youtube comments. With this :V

>>31949158
>that artstyle
It's shit

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>>31949284
I know, as a spic, I find this offensive

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>>31949158
>no rubber gloves
>no Misty

What's a trainer actually supposed to do against 500 pissed-off Spearow?

If Helmaroc's handsome cousin didn't show up he'd be fucking dead.

>>31949366
He was trying to distract them to give Pikachu time to get into the ball.

>>31949403
Get in the ball, Pikachu?

>>31949158
How do you make 20 year old animation look better than modern animation?

>>31949158
>no Fatchu
>no rubber gloves
>Pikachu crying long before Ash has had his act of heroism
>Completely failing at portraying Ho-Oh's awe and distance, which does serve a symbolic purpose
It's shit

>>31949462
This. It looks forced as shit in comparison to the anime. Then again that's what you get when you forget the fact that the two hated each other for some time in season 1.

>>31949158
What's with the animation team's boner for mountains now?

Are there just images or does someone have a link to the video?

>>31949440
By being a huge nostalgiafag like you

>>31949504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWTq8btBa7Y
It looks bretty good

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The madmen

Currently laughing at all those retards saying the original looks better.

>>31949521
So the first pic of the new movie looks good to you, yeah. Just look at that detailed pikachu. Oh boy, it's not like a fucking five year old good draw better. It's not like the anime did better twenty years ago. Nah, nah.

>>31949440
Because you're looking at still frames, not animation.
Please, learn the difference.

>>31949524
animation wise maybe, the artstyle is terrible

>>31949548
>random buzzwords with no meaning
>doesn't even fucking know what animation is

Kys nostalgiatrash

>>31949548
It's further away, dumbass. Of course it's less detailed.

>>31949554
So how come the other still frames look better then?

New one looks nice but has none of the charm.

>>31949440
The update looks pretty generic and "manufactured" by comparison. The CG Spearows don't help.

It definitely looks better now, but it is missing a lot of the charm of the original style.

Cool cool, but it's different from the original so clearly it's shite I r8 0/8 would rather w8 for 2018.

>>31949580
This, the new one just feels sterile and emotionless.

>>31949575
buzzwords?
What buzzwords, your imagining things anon.

>>31949524
>Ho-Oh flies right past Ash and drops him a rainbow feather out of nowhere
Not canon

>Ho-Oh flies right above Ash's head

What the fuck? How was this approved? This is the most cliche thing I've seen in my fucking life. Trying to make Ash seem like a special snowflake is it?

>>31949586
It was manufactured to begin with. You're only noticing it now because you have no nostalgia for the new one.

>>31949579
Because hand-drawn stuff generally looks better in still frames.
Now, go back to the old anime and pay attention to the """"animation"""". There hardly is any.

>it's another people think the first trailer is actual footage from the movie itself

This has NEVER been the case for all 19 previous movies' first trailers. It has ALWAYS been footage only made for the trailer itself.

>>31949612
I'd agree with that considering I don't remember many fast paced battles in the earlier seasons/movies.

>>31949596
>a 5 year old can draw better lmao XD

Does Gary still have a legion of fans before even getting his first Pokemon?

>>31949651
That's not a buzzword anon.

>>31949603
>first day as a trainer, he sees Ho-Oh
>later he meets Mew, Mewtwo, Lugia, the bird trio, Latios, Latias, Jirachi, Deoxys, Rayquaza, Groudon, Kyogre, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Arceus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Victini, Kyurem, Yveltal, Xerneas and countless others
>even if not counting the movies he still met the Regis, Zekrom, Reshiram, Zygarde and more
He already seems a pretty special snowflake to me.

>huge head
>wimpy body
Ash looks like a fucking preschooler next to the old design.

Big animu head

>>31949663
More a buzzphrase

>>31949158
Since every seems to be shitting on it, I'll be the first to say it. It looks much better than the original. The original anime looked shit and barely had any animation. This is leagues above that.
That said, I also dislike a lot changes made. Removal of rubber gloves, Ho-oh flying so close and clear, losing that mystic feel it had.

And while he's not been shown that much, I think I already dislike this Ash. He seems like that one layered version of Ash from XY and SM. Saying how he loves Pikachu, looking sad when asking if Pikachu hates him. It's as basic as it gets. If they cut the scenes where he fights with Pikachu or isn't shown angry at him, I don't think I'll like it.

>>31949665
That's the point. He saw Ho-Oh by sheer chance in the sky and thus he became the luckiest kid alive, because that's what Ho-Oh does.

This trailer just makes it seem like Ho-Oh decided to stop by Ash's head because whatever, fuck it, am I right?

>>31949630
You're a fucking moron.
The "first trailers" you're referring to are the ones aired at cinema literally a year before the movie comes out.
This one came out just now and is not the same as the one after movie 19, at this time have always had concrete shots from the movies.

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>>31949684
Well he IS the Chosen One

>>31949677
This. One of the best parts of the anime was Ash and Pikachu hating each other and eventually coming to like each other.

>>31949696
Nope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkQUuhfvdjU

This is from March last year. None of this footage is in the actual movie.

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>>31949217
Best fucking feel.

Everything about itthe new one looks stiff and unnatural. Like it was drawn by a robot.

>>31949696
>teasers are first trailers

You're a fucking retard. At this time trailers NEVER have had shots from the movie.

First trailer is always released March/April

https://youtu.be/MeFEAA4JvaM
https://youtu.be/YLGGBWh2DPs
https://youtu.be/YejtLak2ItU
https://youtu.be/gOAd0JjHNJs

>>31949684
>because that's what Ho-Oh does
What? As far as I recall, Ho-oh basically a phoenix. Only trusts few people, immortal and capable of healing others. That's it. There's nothing about him that makes people lucky. By that logic, every random NPC I fought with Ho-oh in Gold was the luckiest guy alive.

>>31949715
>None of this footage is in the actual movie.
That's not true at all though but ok.

>>31949763
>It possesses seven-colored wings. It is said that those who see Ho-Oh are promised an eternal happiness.

>>31949776
None of that footage was in the movie. You're a fucking retard.

>>31949776
Feel free to post sceenshots from the movie of these scenes.

>>31949763
>It possesses seven-colored wings. It is said that those who see Ho-Oh are promised an eternal happiness.

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>>31949607
>>31949758 is right, it just isn't as expressive. The art from the first episode is indeed shit, but I can genuinely say I prefer something like this from the first movie to those backgrounds.

>>31949791
>>31949807
I'm not seeing any mention of luck here

>>31949791
>>31949807
> Pokedex entries are now canon

>>31949284
Pokemon was part of the three kings of spic's childhood anime, the other two were Yu-gi-oh and Dragon ball

>>31949800
The Ash being dragged by the EMP thing was in the movie, whos the fucking retard now you fucking nigger cunt.

>>31949824
Post a screenshot.

I hate the backgrounds in the movie, and the Spearow from that screenshot look like at "best" rotoscoped CGI

overall whatever just call me if Necrozma gets a new form or a fun looking spin-off anime is announced anytime soon

>>31949791
>>31949807
Okay, there was that. I forgot about it, my bad.
But how does "eternal happiness" equate to getting kicked around by Mewtwo, being turned stone and pretty much dying, only to forget about the whole experience and getting nothing but pain out of it?

>>31949820
>random NPCs fighting with Ho-Oh and thus becoming the luckiest people alive are canon

>>31949684
Because it looks better.
It still conveys the exact same message as the original scene (there's more to this world than you know), while being more visually appealing.
This isn't a shitty 20 year slideshow anime on a shoestring budget anymore, gramps.

>>31949824
Similar thing happened. Isn't the same footage retard.

>>31949818
Luckiest man alive = eternal happiness

It's basically the same thing

>>31949834
Do your own homework faggot. Its just after the first fight there, like 7-9 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6TkpoHBxj0

>>31949861
It's in-your-face. It lacks any subtlety. It shares the same problems as modern storytelling in general.

>>31949883
Different scene

>>31949883
>isn't the same footage

Yes, we know you're a retard. No need to prove it even more.

It's clear this is a cash grab.

It's not a passion project in the slightest.

>>31949882
You're conflating luck and happiness as being the same thing when they're not as they necessarily mutually inclusive. One does not need to be lucky to be happy or happy to be lucky.

>>31949916
>any Pokemon movie being a passion project and not a cash grab

>>31949931
If a person has eternal happiness, something nobody else has, then you can say he's the luckiest man alive, because that's something everyone would want.

>>31949953
The Mewtwo and Entei movies, the latter especially, were passion projects, you should do some research on them.

>>31949953
Takeshi Shudo threw a fit when his junior writer messed up the script for the third movie. It caused him to quit writing for the Pokemon anime for good. If that's not passion I don't know what it is.

>>31949955
Luckiest kid alive is almost the same as happiest kid alive. Everyone but you understood what that poster was referring to when he said that Ash seeing Ho-Oh made him the luckiest kid.

You're just an autist arguing about semantics at this point.

>>31949955
Sorry, >>31950025 was for >>31949931

>they didn't emulate the old painted-on coloring
shameful

>>31950015
Didn't Shudo want Ash to be an eternal loser?

>>31949715
If you're trying to defend M20 here you're not doing a very good job, since all the scenes that have corresponding scenes in the actual movie look better in the trailer here.

>>31949158
I hate it.

>>31949995
That Entei movie is 10/10.
Thank you for reminding me, I guess I will saw it later.

>>31949158
THE FUCK IS MISTY?? HOW DO YOU RETCON MISTY?

New Pikachu looks like shit. Old Pikachu looked like an actual animal.

>>31950143
What made the animal one better than the newer one?

>>31949823
Weren't those just everyone's childhood animes? Those were the big things.

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>>31949158
>XY soulless style

>>31950143
>fat mouse looks more like an actual animal

>>31949158
So is this going to be some alternative universe?

>>31949931
holy shit you're braindead, that guy proved your description of ho-oh was wrong and clearly he was referring to the eternal life thing in the first place

you're just moving the goal posts like a dumb vp autist

>>31950159
They know what people like.

>>31950156

Looked more natural and monster-like and less like a shitty anime mascot

>>31950159
Is not the artstyle is the coloring. XY style is good but the movie looks like it has a grey filter or something.

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>>31950159
>I rate SM's "artstyle"

>>31950177
That doesn't answer the question. What makes the newer one any worse? Why is it a "shitty mascot" to you, as opposed to a good looking one?

>>31950203
Just fuck off.

>>31950187
I'm not talking about SM's artstyle dude.

>>31950219
I'm sorry, senpai. I won't question again.
New Pikachu a shit. SHIT!

>>31950187
OS~DP > SM > shit > BW~XY

purely going off stills aesthetics, XY and SM are the only series that have decent actual animation more than once in a blue moon

>>31950203

>bad proportions
>head is too big compared to it's body
>expressions are worse (hurr its sad so it has to have tears to show how sad it is)

>>31950219
>I can't answer the question f-fuck you

>>31950271

>WAHHH why don't they like shitty soulless redesigned pika like me?

>>31950166
>you're just moving the goal posts like a dumb vp autist
why does this surprise you that he did that? It happens all the time here.

>>31950258
You're outta you're mind if you think SM is better than XY , jesus christ

>>31950258
where does RS fit in this?

>>31950289
Have you ever looked at SM's Pikachu? it has lots of personality and acts more like an animal.

>>31950266
>>bad proportions
>>head is too big compared to it's body
Both are basically the same thing. And I know it has a big head, but that's seen as a cute thing. I questioned why was that being seen as a bad thing here. Even the original Pikachu used "bad" proportions to make it look cuter, giving it a fat body with really tiny limbs.

>>expressions are worse (hurr its sad so it has to have tears to show how sad it is)
Those are expressions. I'm talking about the design. Yes, I agree the expressions are shit. The arrogant look Pikachu had in the original was much cuter than the bored one it has in the movie.

>>31950303
With OS and DP. Three original arcs, OS, AG and DP, had an actual continuity and looked like an anime instead of separeted series.

>>31950069
He is an eternal loser.

>>31950015
>messed up the third movie
He was fine with the movie all up until the credits, when a woman was seen next to Molly and was curious about her.
He checked the scripts and found out that she was supposed to be the her mother and had been hospitalized during the movie. So the fact that Molly's real mother was "somewhat within her reach" though never stated so in the movie was enough for him to throw a fit and quit.
Sure it's passion, but pretty misguided.

Also let's not forget that before they were sent Entei he wanted Movie 3 to be about a reanimated T. rex skeleton.

>>31950315
>personality and acts more like an animal
>purely going off stills aesthetics
And who the fuck cares if it acts like an animal. It isn't one.

>>31950315
Its eyes look dead. The black part of its eye is way too prevalent compared to the white part

>>31949158
>no rubber gloves

soiled it

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>>31950353
>a reanimated T. rex skeleton.
how would that even work?

>>31950360
Pokemon are animals in the Pokemon universe. They should look animalistic, especially the ones based on animals.

>>31950360

>a mouse isn't an animal

okay

>>31950289
It does, you faggot. XY is sterile and soulless. Its only improvement over BW is the backgrounds and saturation.

>>31949158

What are they going to do after ho-oh? or are they going to stretch "pikachu hates ash" for an hour and a half?

>>31950414
Ah yes the animal kingdom with magnets, sludge, ghosts, mime clowns, coffins, rocks etc. They're called pocket monsters because they're monsters, not animals you fuckhead

>>31949182
this desu senpai

>>31950430
And the shading
And the frames per second
And the coloring
And the animation

I'd rather have sterile and soulless over cheap and shitty. Sterile and soulless at least looks good.

>>31950451
>especially the ones based on animals

Don't respond to me again until you learn to read.

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>>31950430
>XY is sterile and soulless. Its only improvement over BW is the backgrounds and saturation.

>>31950462
It's not even sterile and soulless. That anon either didn't watch the whole series, or he watched a different series. Or he watched the shitty ass dub.

>>31950471
>/pad/ autist
>greentext with no argument

like potpourri

>>31950451
Time to stop posting kid.

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>>31949158
>The movie is a shitty recap of the first episodes with the plastic XY's artstyle

I expected something better

>>31950462
>coloring, shading
Still sterile and soulless.

>frames per second, animation
Only in the handful of sakuga scenes. Rest is the same budget trash.

>>31950502
Nope.

>>31950523
Sorry about your blindness anon.

>>31950470
This is what you said retard
>Pokemon are animals in the Pokemon universe.
No the fuck they're not

>all these smug, smarmy and salty posts that have a whole lot of fedora tipping

/vp/ is just the daycare from hell desu

why the fuck am I still here

>soulless

is this a new meme

>>31950537
Something like that. Or just a braindead anon with shit taste.

>>31950287
>WAHHH why don't they dislike shitty soulless redesigned pika like me?

>>31950502
Alright now this is just bait

>>31950414
>>31950426
We had a fucking Mouse, Rattata, to fill the realistic mouse roll. Pikachu never was, and never will be a realistic Pokemon. Stop living in your delusions.

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>>31949182
Honestly this. Fatchu best chu!

>>31950426
>implying owls are birds

>>31950564
>>31950414
>what is Trubbish

>>31950564
anon mice in your country aren't yellow with red cheeks and lighting shaped tails?

>>31950537
Calling sequels, remakes and/or reboots soulless has always been a thing.

>>31950564
why is a grumpy old geezer like you looking for realism in a Japanese kids' game

>>31950564
This.
Pikachu was just a fat fucking rodent. There was nothing realistic about it. Just because you're a fat fucker doesn't mean everything fat is more realistic.

>>31950535
Yes, they are. They are functionally animals in that world. Some are based on objects, but most are based on real animals, including Pikachu.

>>31950564
It's not about being a carbon copy of the animal you stupid motherfucker, it's about looking like a living creature, not a glass-eyed plastic toy. That look works for object mons, but Pikachu is objectively based on real life rodents.

>>31950390
In Shudo's mind, the anime has always taken place in our real world, the poken appeared fairly recently, they came seemingly out of nowhere

In the 3rd movie the characters would find a T-rex skeleton and Team Rocket would try to bring it back to life
The whole movie was about revealing to the viewers that the pokemon world is the same as ours

>>31950679
Shudo sounds like the Pokemon equivalent of Penders

>>31949699
Yeah, but based on his character development, he's more like the frozen one.

>>31950719
kek

>>31949762
So is this a recent trend? I fell behind and those are just about all the movies I haven't seen.

>>31950637
Some are functionally animals. Many aren't. Some are gods, aliens, guardians, (evil) spirits and legends. They're pocket MONSTERS.

>>31949158
Nobody asked for this shit.

Fuck GF and their Gen I pandering.

>>31949200
>>31949217
>TFW autists think TPCi is going to reveal all characters, story etc in a short teaser trailer

>>31950779
>GF

anon are you retarded?

I can guarantee that the negative reaction to SM is the reason for the return of the traditional art.

>>31950258
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.

>>31950779
lel the casuals don't give a shit about the show past OS, only the sperglords here get angry about gen 1 shit.

>>31950819
>replying to bait

>>31949323
>>31949823
*euro spaniards

>>31950815
>traditional art
Are you 5 years old?

>>31950912
Should have said "Non disney channel art"

I like the ruggedness of the land in the original series

>>31949158
I actually feel a little let down by this
It just looks like a glorified remaster

>>31950815
>They waited until SM came out before designing the movie
Right.

>>31949684
Later seasons of the anime made it extremely clear Ho-oh appeared to Ash on purpose.

What is the point of this movie? It's just the first episode again?

>>31949603
Look at Ash getting the Rainbow Wing while standing on a random-ass mountain. That Ho-oh bit looks like a promotional shot made specifically for the trailer to emphasize Ho-oh. The actual sequence in the movie will probably be a lot closer to what it was in the anime.

>>31953441
We don't know. Everything we've seen of it so far is from the first episode, but the summary also has a "with the rainbow wing in hand, Ash and Pikachu begin their journey" line that makes it sound like it goes further.

>>31949158
Holy shit wtf is wrong with Ash's proportions in the movie? Why is Ash's head the size of a watermelon but his arms are toothpicks? Even his chest got compressed down like someone ran him over. I'm shocked he can support that enormous fucking head when it must be at least 40% of his total body weight. Why the fuck couldn't they give him proper proportions with their fucking computer generated designs???

Also why does it look like Ho-oh is attacking him? Ash should be so beneath its notice that he's little more than a bug on the ground to it. I liked the original where it was just majestically flying overhead in the distance by chance.

>>31949883
>talking pokemon

what is this gay shit

>>31953629
To prevent Ash's journey from ever ending, Celebi keeps messing with the timeline. But this time Celebi accidentally made Ash his own grandfather, and now he looks like a bobblehead.

Ho-Oh has been aware of Celebi's exploits all this time and is finally fed up with it, and has decided to put a permanent end to Ash's journey.