Does Honchkrow even have any counters?

diancie seems like a solid answer to it as its one of the few dark and flying resists that aren't destroyed by heat wave or superpower

>>31945214
Weavile. Resists Sucker Punch and is powerful enough to kill it with an Icicle Crash.

>>31945242

Diancie gets wrecked by Steel Wing

>>31945292

Weavile cannot switch in on Honchkrow

252+ Atk Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 297-351 (105.6 - 124.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Honchkrow Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Weavile: 792-936 (281.8 - 333%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It can certainly check Honchkrow if it manages to get a free switch-in, but it's not a counter

Machamp

>>31945214
Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Garchomp, Landorus...basically all of OU, actually.

>>31945337
Those can't switch safely on Honch's Brave Bird and take a Sucker Punch after, not even Koko. And Lele gets 1 hit KO'd by Brave Bird.

>>31945214
Defensive Zapdos

toxapex

:^)

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Damn. I remember when some black alphaweeb NFL player sweeped all challengers from /vp/ with his ace Honchkrow.

>>31945388
Fine, M-Metagross.

>>31945388
Are you brain damaged?
252+ Atk Honchkrow Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 120-141 (42.7 - 50.1%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Honchkrow Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Koko: 70-83 (24.9 - 29.5%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
And this is fucking Koko, Landorus and Garchomp rape Honchkrow with no problem whatsoever

>>31945214
Is Honchkrow the pinnacle of pokemon design?
>pleasant color pallet
>recognizable animal base while not being literally my mom's raven
>cool mafia theme
>stylized, but not ugly or ridiculous proportions
>a lot of small neat details, like tail being a cigar and chest feathers being a jabot, that all fit well together and don't create a clusterfuck

>>31945388
>Those can't switch safely
>Tapu Lele
>Sucker Punch

Lel

>>31945492
This.

>>31945492
I actually do enjoy it, I wish it didn't get hit so hard by that shitty fedora meme.

>>31945214
Machamp

>>31945492
Yes it is a good design, and so is Murkrow.

>>31945492
Honchkrow is the worst Pokemon ever made and if you like it you should get out

>>31945492
>liking shitkrow

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>>31945543
>>31945553

>>31945492
You forgot 'one of the best cries in the series'

>>31945214
Depends on the set, but plenty of defensive mons can force it out.

Please don't make shitpost threads involving my favorite pokemon.
Thank you.

>>31945563
Hell yeah. It's a shame they kinda fucked it up in the cry rework.

>>31945310
It doesn't. Defensive Diancie doesn't give two shits about steel wing even with x4 weakness.

>>31945492
It's a nice design, but they should not have dropped the witch motif which murkrow had.

>>31945614
It actually does, but a bigger question is can Honchkrow even run Steel Wing without any major opportunity costs

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>>31945492
Get on my level.
But Honchkrow is pretty great too.

>>31945633
Actually you're right, it does. I guess I didn't switch Diancie into Steel Wing and I just took it next turn and lived while shitcrow exploded from a diamond storm.

>>31945633
What move would Honchkrow run besides Bird, SPunch, and SPower that's better than Steel Wing, anyway?

>>31945691
SD, Roost

>>31945705
>implying honchkrow can learn swords dance
>implying it can even live to use status moves

>>31945691
Pursuit

>>31945691
Night Slash and maybe Heat Wave come to mind

>>31945715
I could have sworn it learned SD. That only makes it even shittier.

>>31945691
Z-snatch

>>31945727
>Night Slash

>>31945735
Same BP as Sucker Punch and more reliable

>>31945766

The standard Honchkrow set runs both though

Sucker Punch for when you need priority, Night Slash when you don't

>>31945806
I'm talking about running it over Steel Wing, not Sucker Punch