>Gen 5 got BTFO HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>31912306
Fuck off Richard.

>>31912306
Fuck off Jimbo

>>31912306
Fuck off Masked Royale.

>>31912306
Fuck off Scott

>>31912306
?

>>31912306
Of course it did. It's the worst selling generation of Pokemon, which is even more embarrassing considering it's on the most popular handheld. It shouldn't be a surprise that a lot of people outside of /vp/ and reddit either dislike them or haven't bothered to play them.

>>31912463
Well whether anyone here wants to believe it or not, the Pokemon are a big appeal of the games (I know shocking right) and when more than half of them are shit well yeah it's obviously going to turn people away

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>>31912306
I've never really seen what's so horribly bad about it. Was it the dex locking out other pokemon? the emphasis on story? I'm not saying it's a masterpiece, it's not even my favourite first entry, but I don't get why everybody outside of this place says it's irredemable garbage.

It can't honestly be the nitpicky "chandelier, ice cream and trash bag pokemon, lol" argument, right?

What did I miss? How did Gen 5 get BTFO'd?

>>31912306
What happened?

>>31912554
>>31912567
TPCi's twitter has been discussing gens because of the day of pokemon comming up, and people are shitting all over gen 5.

>>31912570
That's a shame, it's my favorite gen, mine being in this order 5>7>3>4>1>2>6

>>31912570
oh no normie casuals display their bad taste once again. whatever shall us gen 5 fans do

>>31912590
Stop acting like Gen 5 is a holy grail? That'd be a pretty decent start

>>31912607
literally nobody does this
people who unironically think gen 5 is flawless are the absolute minority everywhere, even on /vp/.

>>31912590
Normies typically gravitates toward the highest quality opinions. This proves further that Gen 5 is the worst gen.

>>31912607
>thinking something is good=acting like it's a holy grail
gosh anon stop acting like Pokémon is the holy grail of video game series

>>31912615
is this bait?
normies have shit opinions. this is a fact

>>31912613
>literally nobody does this

How long have you been on /vp/? Gen 5 wank on here is reaching Genwunner levels

>>31912520
>Was it the dex locking out other pokemon?
Yes, some people who claim not to be nostalgiafags like to play with the same mons all over again.

> the emphasis on story?
Yes again, there's stuff actually going on on the story so for a pokemon fan that's shit.

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>>31912628
Call me when Gen 5 are white knighted as much as genwunners are.

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>>31912658

>>31912670
Gen 5 fans*

>>31912615
You can't seriously believe the masses actually gravitate to the best and only that, right?

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>>31912658
gen 5 birbs were fantastic

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>>31912658
1. Scrafty
2. Darmanitan
3. Krokorok
4. Haxorus
5. Galvantula

Gen 5 has a lot of great Pokemon though

>>31912520
There's nothing wrong with it really. Our just didn't go down well at first because people thought it was a reboot. Once that got out of the way the damage was already done as people had just pirated it.

>>31912615
Normies usually gravitate to the majority opinion regardless of if it's based on fact or a lie. In other words they're literally just mindless sheep.

>>31912658
Darmanitan, Krookodile and Excadrill are my favorites. The desert route was really great.

>>31912463
Nice try asshole

>>31912463
>sales=quality
I guess gen 1 was the best

>>31912463
>haven't bothered to play them.
>not playing every gen
this isn't right

>>31912788
you're digging your own grave

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>>31912658
Sprite>>Model

>>31912615
This confirms what I've always suspected, gen 6 and 1 are the best in the series.

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>>31912658
-Pic related
-Leavanny
-Scolipede
-Krookodile
-Excadrill
-Volcarona
-Beeheyem
-Reuiculus
-Scrafty
-Cofagrigus
-Chandelure
-Golurk
-Frillish(female)
-Escavelier(hits like a truck)
-Eelektross(dat movepool and ability)
-Thudurus-T(I know its a genie, but a thunder dragon with clouds paws is sick)
-Meloetta(clever design and concept)

Surprisingly this gen was decent quality wise

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>>31912658
Eelektross is a close second.

>>31912815
What do you expect?
It's the gen that GF put the most effort into.

And then realised no one gave a shit about it compared to the others so they just decided to bullshit the games since on the pretext of no appreciation.

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>>31912836
You're the reason people think it's ok to baselessly hate gen 5

>>31912836
Gen 7 certainly did try. I don't know what happened

>>31912845
You say that but can you find anything that suggests otherwise?

Anyone who participates in genwars should get a bullet in the head

>>31912845
He's not wrong. I mean look at SM we don't even get trainer class specific encounter themes anymore and the last two gens introduced the least amount of mon yet.

In a way, gen 5 did kill pokemon.

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>>31912793
>Gen 1 and 6
>best in the series

Try fucking harder with your bait

>casuals hate good games
Oh woe is me

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>>31912845
No anon, people have a pretty good base to hate gen 5

>>31912863
>>31912894
You're as bad as genwunners, I won't even indulge in shitflinging, just let you know maybe you should just leave the franchise you think so badly of instead of ironically browse communities about it.

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>>31912894
Gen 5 didn't kill Pokémon. Gen 6 did. Be honest. Would you rather have a game that felt made to have gen 5 only Pokémon in the game up until the end, or bastardize the native Pokémon and put a fuckton of other Pokémon in that region. Unova wasn't the best region yet it at least was able to give some better areas and memorable moments. In kalos, I forgot it all. Hell, victory road was shit in kalos. Fuck off

>>31912836
They probably put the same amount of effort into the 3DS titles. The issue is they take more effort to make due to muh graphics.

The situation will only get worse when they jump to the Switch and are ravaged by the dude HD lmao meme that outright killed countless talented Japanese studios last generation and had lasting negative effects on the quality of output on any others that didn't just stick to handhelds.

>>31912911
that has nothing to do with what I said
It's 100% alright to hate gen 5 for reasons like lack of older pokemon, gifted legendaries, boring region, etc. Just saying it sucks because lol, is wrong and people like that sperg make others feel right in thinking that way.

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>>31912658
2nd favorite mon overall desu

>>31912926
>same amount of effort
>not fixing the frame rates in double battles of battle royals

Yeah, gamefreak sure put a lot of effort into sun and moon, since there's areas missing and gaps everywhere.

>>31912921
I don't mean that unova was bad dude just that it was the gen that made GF realise their efforts would go unnoticed by the masses.

Get what I mean?

>>31912306
Explain. Gen 7 got BTFO, he'll, gen 1 and 6 even got BTFO, but gen 5 has never been BTFO.

What the fuck is with people's hateboners for gen 5?
Were they mad they couldn't use Zubat for the 5,000,000th time?

>>31912815
It had a lot of good designs but then again it did have a shitload of mons so it's to be expected, it also had some very shitty ones. I'm not even talking about ice cream or trash, I'm talking about those that blatantly only exist to be a counterpart of a gen 1 mon. Well trash is kinda shit and fits into that description.

>>31912931
>boring region.

It's more fun then the most cookie cutter region in fucking kalos, or fucking circle. At least unova had places to see that were pretty interesting rather then a huge desert for no reason, and a forest that fucked over everyone to find items

>>31912463
>genwunner
>>31912473
>Shit
>most of gen 5
Wow anon, I never knew that gen 5 was made up of the Oshawott line and the monkeys. I could have sworn there were 150+ great mons.

>>31912944
It's like this, it takes a hundred "units" of effort to make a polished DS title. It takes two hundred to make a polished 3DS title. They're still working on one hundred units, so the product ends up shit.

Now imagine how bad it'll be when they need five hundred units for HD and are still working off one hundred.

>>31912962
Game freak will always do that. Every gen will have a Pokémon just made to be put in the trash

>>31912931
You know you never get handed a legendary in gen 5 right. As for the region, it would do you some good to actually explore it seeing as it has quite a few hidden areas and such.

The only real complaint is the lack of older mon and that only applies to the main game of BW1.

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>>31912926
>>31912944
>Cut out Horde/Rotations/Tripples
>Battle Dome has more models than all of these

>>31912607
When you stop acting like gen 1 started pokemon... Oh wait, it did, and gen 5 was truly the best.

>>31912980
If anything, I think gamefreak needs to find a better way to get these games made. If they're in HD, I'd like it to be a more open world type of game. Maybe get help from other studios. Best bet would be to get rockstar, but they'd have no interest in making a Pokémon game for the switch

>>31912980
The problem with that logic is that GF reused a hell of a lot of assets for sun and Moon.

>>31912981
Of course but gen 5 had much more than any other gen since they wanted to dex lock the region.

>>31912963
but unova was a hexagon and also had a huge desert for no reason.

It's not like it matters, I don't think it's boring, I'm just saying you can find it boring and it's ok to do so since it's subjective anyways.

>>31912983
>You know you never get handed a legendary in gen 5 right.
reshiram/Zekrom
Those started the trend of being forced to catch legends, and have a huge catch rate compared to other legends.

>As for the region, it would do you some good to actually explore it seeing as it has quite a few hidden areas and such.
This can be said for all regions I mainly meant lack of interesting locations, but see the previous reply anyways.

>The only real complaint is
No, these are all valid complaints, based on subjectivity and preferences. People need to stop thinking just because you like something it means those who don't are in the wrong
I like gen 5 but you're being a bit biased to think those aren't valid complaints because you think they don't bother you as much

>>31913003
Which is a logical thing to do. I like that because it doesn't make the Kanto fags happy, which is needed more often. If they'll buy a game just for nostalgia, then make them play using different teams and setups.

>>31912955
You think Masuda cries himself at night thinking about how people hate the game he put the most in.

>>31912981
Like Popplio. Cool. Now I hate it just a little less, knowing that it's supposed to be garbage.

>>31912570
Excellent.

>>31913016
He didn't make Emerald Platinum HGSS or BW2

I refuse to believe he had muh involvement in BW, especially when you can't even battle him like other staff members

Don't feed him (You)s, you're better than this /vp/, please.

>>31913040
People mindlessly shit on gen V because of Trubbish and Vanillish, two Pokemon

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>>31913040
Not today jimbo

>>31913011
Making them opinions, and not complaints.

>>31913011
>reshiram/Zekrom
The pokemon you have to catch. Which aren't in fact handed to you.
You'd have a point if it were something like the Lati in ORAS.

>I like gen 5 but you're being a bit biased to think those aren't valid complaints because you think they don't bother you as much
Completely off the mark anon.
It's not that they don't bother me it's that they're completely arbitrary especially since they can be rectified or weren't an issue at all

>>31912780
>>31912788
>>31912790
>>31912975
Looks like I triggered some Unova fags
>sales=quality
>I guess gen 1 was the best
Nope, but Gen 5 starting the story driven bs that is ruining the series might have something to do with it.

>>31913074
This.

>>31913074
The legendarys being given to you pissed me off in ORAS since the developers thought 7-10 year olds would have trouble in the game, yet it wasn't even hard at all. The most challenging part was probably mega metagross the second time, but that's in the postgame

>tfw favorite gens are 1/3/5/7
>tfw it's genwunners and unovabortions that fight the most
>tfw no one fights the real menace, sinnohfetuses

>>31913085
No, actually, gen 5 was great, and if they had continued that path, we'd be fine, but they didn't. Gen 5 was the last great game, not the first bad one, that'd be gen 6.

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>>31913053
I'm not too fond of these pieces of shit either
Vanillish is fine tho

>>31913098
Sinnoh was good too anon. This isn't about gen 4, it's about gen 7 sucking, and genwunners trying to blame gen 5, when it was really gen 6 that caused it.

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>>31913085
>Triggered some unova fags

Guess that makes your point 100% valid anon, but you are wrong. Gen 5 got the story thing right, but the other gens fucked up. The story isn't perfect, but it's better then "Follow ambiguous figure with a phenomenal power in bag!" Or "Edgelord using dead Pokémon to awaken Super weapon"

>>31913099
>that'd be gen 4
ftfy

>>31912899
>>31912615

But I thought that normies gravitated towards the best quality.

Oh yeah, it doesn't works like that when normies likes something that you don't. Only when they hate something that you also hate.

But no worries, I'm just fishing, your favorite gen is the objectively best gen in the series :^)

>>31913111
Holy fuck I've never seen this before

>>31913098
Worst thing about gen 4 was the slow down.

>>31913074
Latios being given to the player is about as arbitrary as Reshiram. Arguably even less actually since Latios/Latias isn't as powerful as Reshiram. The game doesn't force you to use them.

>>31913115
Fuck you too anon.

>>31913085
I only pointed out not playing every gen is wrong, I didn't claim gen 5 was good or anything.

>>31913117
If normies gravitated towards quality why the fuck would Pokemon Go be popular then compared to the game it was reskinned from

>>31913126
>slow meme
Please kys.

>>31913099
No, actually gen 4 was bad, and if they hadn't continued on that path, the series would still be good, but they didn't. Gen 5 started the downward trend that is ruining the series, not the last great Pokemon game, that'd be Platinum.

>>31913144
don't be stupid, gen 4 was slow

>>31913113
You're wrong. Gen 5's story is filled with plotholes and is relatively mediocre. People on here only praise it because it was the first instance of GF making a story driven game. That doesn't make it good though.

>>31913144
Saving a lot of data...

>>31913144
It's literally a fact though

https://youtube.com/watch?v=enmPrAvMxwQ

>>31913147
Yeah gen 4 had a hell of a lot of downgrades from three when it came to content. Even the designs were a little off for pokemon.

>>31913141
>not playing every gen is wrong
Just because some people don't want to sit through the trash that is Gens 5, 6, 7 doesn't make them wrong, anon.

>>31913170
DP had loads more content than RS

>>31912985
Other than the zoom out at the start which is almost completely static, Royale actually only has six models tops on screen at a given time.

Most likely they removed Triples and Rotation because of new shit like Receiver.

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>>31913112
This. Gen 6 ruined everything because it fucking catered to the neckbeard virgins known as Kanto fucks.

Here's the following reasons why gen 6 fucked over Pokémon

>mega evolutions
>Kanto starters after first gym
>Piss poor """rivals"""
>Majority of new Pokémon are barely usable
>Gimmick mons like furffrou
>Most trainers don't use kalos Pokémon
>Region is like a clock
>Cities feel barren and used just for plot
>Pokeball factory wasn't needed at all
>Team flare was uninspired and was a TR ripoff
>Areas just put in just to have coherent areas
>Random desert area with inaccessible places
>That ice cave that wasn't needed
>Legendarys feel bland and forced to be caught
>Elite four is barely challenging
>Champion feels like a cakewalk
>Game makes you face another challenger after you just beat said champion
>Legendary birds put in for no reason
>Mewtwo put in for no fucking reason
>Postgame is bare bones
>Fucking rival uses a mega just to show "muh power"
>No battle facility that feels challenging

>>31913144
>chansey.webm

>>31913183
Not really no. Aside from the addition of online it was just a downgraded gen 3 with gimmicks.

>>31913204
What did RS have

>go look at the tpci link
>all the mad people are ferries
And /vp/ will say they don't support verlisify

>>31913168
Honestly, the worst is navigating the bag in the post game when it's filled. Shit is SLOOOOOOOW

>>31912658
Ferrothorn line was the only good thing to come out of gen 5

>>31913183
>tower
>worst version of contests
>worst version of bases
>game corner with no roulette
That's all that's in DP dude.

>>31913183
Little bit of bullshit. Diamond and pearl had the Regis but the most asinine way to get them. I spent hours trying to make them appear yet it never happened.

>>31913204
It had basically all the same side attractions as RS in some form and a lot more optional areas and Legendaries to catch.

Platinum's a lot better, but it's because of the overhauls to enemy teams and encounter tables. It didn't actually add much brand new content except the Gym Leader rematches and the Frontier.

>>31913246
DP didn't have the regi. That was Plat and they were event locked in think.

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>>31912658
>great design
>great stats
scolipede is my fave gen V mon
>inb4 donut

>>31913225
Contest have always been shit tbqh

Underground>>>>>Bases

>>31913257
My bad. Also, fuck events to be honest. My GameStop never did Shit for them since my area never played Pokémon a lot. Plus those mythicals you could get from gen 6 weren't even able to go on my 3DS because my wifi can't connect to the device. It's shit

>>31913251
>It had basically all the same side attractions as RS in some form
Thing about that is that they had important mechanics or content removed from them hence why I said they were downgraded.

>>31913142
I don't know, ask >>31912615

>>31913147
Wrong.
>>31913151
Also wrong.
>>31913167
So?
>>31913168
No, it's not.

>>31913278
>Underground>>>>>Bases
Yeah because input lag and RNG is good.
That said the underground was centered around bases which were worse than the gen 3 ones.

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>>31912658
Gen 5 has the best pikaclone.

>>31913289
Let me guess, you got Pearl when you were 6

>>31913282
I can't think of anything removes from them, at worst you have Contests which were rebalanced for the worse, but in content it's basically the same. Underground was a sidegrade to bases with its own appeals.

>>31913294
Bases were pretty good in ORAS, but they needed more flexibility and better places to have them. I'd like to see future games try to have bases put in, and make any place a secret base

>>31913289
>I can't handle facts: the post
Just face the fact that your favorite generation had flaws, and stop acting like a 14 year old

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>>31912658
This and Genesect

>>31913319
Man I loved using this little guy. Such a good design and for a psychic type.

>>31913303
I don't know.
I feel like the ability to make a based anywhere would lead to a region filled with holes and vines if they went with a similar online system.

>>31912306
Black and White didn't have any old Pokémon in them, and when talking about a franchise that LIVES on milking the same 151 Pokémon over and over and over again, it only makes sense that they wouldn't sell as much. Their quality was objectively excellent, just like the games that came before them, but their "problem" was the lack of familiarity, which made many casuals turn away from them. Hence why the immediate generation afterwards was almost completely composed of nothing but familiarity and "Gen 1 pandering", which is a trait GameFreak has yet to stop using/abusing.

What's wrong with gen 5? Hmm I'll make a list since there are some thing s that have gone unmentioned.

1. Too many new pokemon - don't get me wrong, I love a lot of gen 5 designs. Some of my best friends are unovan mons. But there were a lot of unnecessary mons that were just older mons with a new paint job. Some look better or are different enough to justify their existence, and if unova just existed in a bubble this wouldn't be a problem. They could have just cut out the egregious ones that are really hideous or really redundant and it would be fine.

2. The hideous zoomed in partially animated rag doll pokemon sprites - I always start a run-through of bw1/2 but as soon as the first battle starts I just get this feeling of disappointment, like man am I really gonna have to look at this for 40+ hours?

3. There's just something about the region - people have argued that sinnoh is boring, kind of bland, sometimes they even hail it as a virtue and call it comfy. I call it droll, if a video game makes you yawn and feel sleepy it's not because it's so good. Unova took that almost implacable kind of dragging disinterest and magnified it 10x. I know this is the most subjective of my opinions, but there is just something bland and uninteresting about the region and for these reasons I have been able to replay gen 5 the least.

>>31913352
So no objective problems. Good to know.

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>>31913168
This video is a crock of shit...
In the 'intro' bit, you can clearly see that the 'slowest' generation is also the only one that doesn't fucking have text speed set to "Fast".
Fucking biased opinion-based videos...

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>>31913396
I'm sad he isn't a beast anymore

>>31913168
>>31913411
Also (i just finished the fucking video) the only reason gen IV's battle took longer than any other one is because the pikachu leveled up... Crystal would be the slowest battle-wise, if this video weren't so fucking biased...

>>31912815
>Surprisingly this gen was decent quality wise
It actually was. It still surprises me that the popular opinion is that it had the worst Pokemon. Now, Gen 5's roster wasn't a masterpiece by any means, but when you get down to it the Pokemon were...decent. Nothing more but certainly nothing less.

>>31913411
Dude, they're all set to fast.

>>31913422
There's still hope for a mega.

>>31913200
Also add
>New Pokemon have super low encounter rates, compared to fucking Kanto mons

>>31913428
>the only reason gen IV's battle took longer than any other one is because the pikachu leveled up...
Even without the level up it's still the longest due to the EXP gain in general. Just look at how crystal stopped just before it even leveled up.
The only one with a bias here is you dude.

>>31913492
That's gen 7. 6 had new pokemon placed fairly high.

>>31913127
>Game doesn't force you to use them.

In BW, you have the option of putting your legend into your party, but you can also send them to the PC. When you get your Lati in ORAS (and when you get Rayquaza in the post game) you HAVE to put them in your party.

>>31913473
Yeah that I forgot, but that's more of a gen 7 issue.

>>31913391
Is there anything objective in an argument about pokemon games? Just stating things I don't like that I know are things other people dislike too. Do you want to know the ROBOTIC OBJECTIVE FLAWS ONLY. no, that's not the point of this thread. You (unovabortions) basically say, why does everyone hate my favorite game!? When people say, hey this is why I hate it, you shout with spergitude, NEGATIVE, THAT IS NOT OBJECTIVE. ONLY OBJECTIVE TRUTHS CAN BE PROCESSED. I know it's hard to compute us humans, but you'll be fine.

>>31913519
This. I liked that you could use rayquaza but the latis pissed me off. I had to send off one of my members if I did that, and the latis were broken as well thanks to the mega

>>31913507
I must have had bad luck then. I only ended up with two Kalos Pokemon on my Y nuzlocke team, Greninja and Dragalge.

But yes, Gen 7 really fucking sucks Kanto dick too hard. I had to create a clause for my Sun nuzlocke to exclude any Kanto Pokemon if they were my first encounter.

>>31913497
>Even without the level up it's still the longest due to the EXP gain in general.
D....did you watch the video?
o.O

>>31913530
>if I did that
If you did what? The Latis are not optional, the game will not let you progress until you get it.

>>31913221
Your wrong m8
>Volcarona has a special dragon dance and great stats
>Scolopede is the most versatile early route bug
>Conkelldurr invalidated many bulky fighting types
>Hydregion is a decent Latios alternative before the fairy nation attacked
>I don't want to start with Gen 7 Gigalith
>Krookodile is usable(Garchomp lacks Intimidate and amazing secondary STAB) and rewarding to use
Etc.

>gen 5 games had been the games with more content by far
>people doesn't like

That's it. People just hate playing the damn games.

I only played GenWun, Johto, Diamond, and Black. I refuse to play Aloha. Chandelure fucking MADE that gen for me. I loved the story and gyms and mons, pretty solid all around actually. Why would it get hate?

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>>31912658

>>31913584
Reasoning like this is why there is no Battle Frontier in ORAS. I'm still mad about that.

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Normies hate it because it lacks genwun pandering.

>>31913221

This has to be one of the worst attempts at bait ever.

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>>31913562
>o.O
Fuck off

Also gen 2 had finished EXP distribution before gen 4 started

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>>31913600
Why are Normies so fucking obsessed with Gen 1? Why are they this autistic to not give the other gens a chance? Why do they hate variety?

>>31913562
Did you?
Every other game ended before the EXP had even been added to pikachu in gen 4.

Face it Gen 4 was incredibly slow.

>>31913640
Because they grew up with it and are familiar with it. This also applies to every single thing ever, not just pokemon

>>31913352
>Too many new pokemon
This is as far from a problem as pokemon can get

>>31913655
The problem there is that it seems like only the pokemon fan based is this opposed to change.

>>31913640
Because they grew up and out of Pokemon around Gen 3, and are now adults who can't appreciate creativity anymore.

As we get older, our brains lose that childlike wonderment and ability to be open-minded.

>>31913680
It's just because pokemon is more popular so there are more and louder genwunners

Problems with Generation 5, BW in particular.

>Pokemon
Overall mediocre. Only a few stand out. It wouldn't be that bad if older Pokemon were available, but no, those had to be removed in favor of worse but new Pokemon. New is always better, after all.

>Story
Retarded even by Pokemon standards. Take that retarded Rocket Grunt that drops the Key, make a whole plot about that level of retardedness, take away any "funny" part of that, add a Gary Stu and you have BW's story.

>Innovation
It brought nothing new that could shake up the overall gameplay. It's the only Generation to not bring anything big to the table. Pokemon is fun, but if you don't add something to shake up the formula once in a while, people will get bored of it.

>things BW did right
Characters. The rivals, Cheren and Bianca, as well as the Gym Leaders and Alder. They all had some role in the story that fleshed out their character a bit. While most of the Gym Leaders were not that interesting, they were still much better than anything before them.

>Region
It was fun. A lot less realistic than most other regions, but fun nonetheless. Cities like Nimbasa had nice themes and designs.

Other than that, there's also minor improvements, like with TMs, but we get a whole bunch of those minor improvements with each Generation, so no point in mentioning those.
As I said in the beginning of my post, BW2 fixes most of its issues, but that's not to say BW2 is perfect. BW2 suffers from new problems. Namely, the "fun region" and "characters" part not applying to it. It's literally the same region with minor changes. That's not as impressive anymore. The characters are also mostly the same, so nothing impressive in this regard either. The new characters, Hugh and Marlon, for example, were pretty bad.

Overall, though, I'd say Generation 5 gets too much shit. It's easily the 3rd best Generation, even with all the flaws.

>>31913640

Because nostalgia is a tricky bitch that clouds our judgement.

Everything relies on nostalgia these days as well. Pokemon, Mario, Sonic has gone increasingly this way, all the reboots of films, etc.

>>31913721
>Gary Stu
I don't think you know what that word means

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>>31912658

>>31913721
>It's the only Generation to not bring anything big to the table.
That'd be gen 4. The split was a decent addition but not particularly game changing. Gen 5 in the other hand added two new battle modes

>>31913734
>split not game changing
>literally is in effect every single time you damage opponent.
>as opposed to two battle modes that were never even used and were cut off in gen7
gen4 also added online play

>>31913734
>The split was a decent addition but not particularly game changing
It literally changed how battles played out. It affected every single Pokemon and every single battle you had. It's a pretty big thing.
Triple battle, which come up, at best, 3 times during the whole game mean nothing compared to it.

>>31913734
>the split was a decent addition but not particularly game changing
How was it not game changing. It made plenty of pokemon usable.

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>>31913734
Are you kidding me?

Are you trying to say the entirety of online isn't a gigantic thing?

>>31913734
>hat'd be gen 4. The split was a decent addition but not particularly game changing.
Really?
>Gen 5 in the other hand added two new battle modes
Who are terrible and thankfully they're gone

>>31913753
>gen4 also added online play
And?
That's not exactly changing the way you play the game.

>>31913779
It does since I never traded or battled other players before it.

>>31913655
this, and people only want nostalgia nowadays
looks at most movies today
like the power ranger movie that will probably be generic and boring as hell, and without the charm of the rubber suits monsters

>>31913723
I absolutely hate this current trend of nostalgia pandering in all forms of media lately. It's atrocious and really limits new, original content from taking hold.

>>31913753
The split just changed the way the moves were categorised not the way you played it dude. In the end the same kind of strats can get you through.
As for online that just had the same shit as local but more accessible. That's like saying the extralink, dreamworld, pass powers and hidden abilities are game changers.

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>>31912658

>>31913817
HAs did make many older Pokemon excellent at least.

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>>31913721
>Overall mediocre. Only a few stand out. It wouldn't be that bad if older Pokemon were available, but no, those had to be removed in favor of worse but new Pokemon. New is always better, after all.

Because the same old shit over and over is so much better and doesn't get stale. (See: Gen. 6 and 7's constant Kanto pandering.) God forbid we get a breath of fresh air for ONE game. And the old Pokemon weren't "removed" just because you couldn't use them temporarily.

>>31913787
Doesn't change the fact that the options were there.
Using that logic there are kids who didn't trade and battle until gen 5 or 6 because the games didn't support WPA locks on routers.

>>31913640
Gen 1 was what people considered Pokemon and liked about it. I didn't start with Gen 1, but what got me into Pokemon was what I'll seek from other games as well. If what brought me into Pokemon was the original 151 Pokemon, I would want more of that, because that's what I actually cared about.

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Obligatory.

>by gen

4>3>7>5>6>2>1

>by region(s)

2/1>3>4>6>5>7

>>31913721
If you miss old pokemon then just play B/W2, they're much better games and some of the best alongside Platinum, HG/SS, and Emerald

>>31913721
>muh innovation

Ever heard of the phrase "If it ain't broke don't fix it"? We don't need gimmicks like Megas and Z-moves added every game.

>>31913817
>using physical water-type attacks with physical water Pokémon
>using physical water-type attacks against specially defensive Pokémon such as Chansey and Snorlax
Phys/Spes split changed everything and it can't be denied by not paying attention to it.

>extralink, dreamworld, pass powers and hidden abilities are game changers.
False comparison. These are all extra features that do not make the essential parts of the game more accessible.

>>31913834
It's not the same old shit over and over again. It's the older Pokemon, which is what people cared about, mixed in with newer Pokemon. You're getting both, what you liked, and new Pokemon you could potentially like.

But no, let's ditch what people cared about in the series, and only give them new things they don't even want. I mean, why give people what they want along with new stuff? That's retarded. Take away what they like and give them new stuff. That's the best way to go about it.

>>31913721
>Only a few stand out.

This can be said about other generations too, to be fair. How many Pokemon stand out in Gen. 2?

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Gen 5 was the best because of nihilist e4 member. And there was a veritable gold mine of top shelf pokegirls as well.

>>31913881
The majority of Gen 1 Pokemon. Even if only a few new Pokemon stood out in Gen 2, it gave access to other things.
The anon said it in his post. BW's Pokemon wouldn't be a problem if older Pokemon were available. That way, even if you don't like the new Pokemon, you had the option to use something you did like.

>>31913879
I rather have Woobat spam than Zubat spam for 50 time. It's one of the reasons I don't like Kanto's or Alola's dex. Too many Kanto mons

>>31913852
>Phys/Spes split changed everything and it can't be denied by not paying attention to it.
Are you even reading you post rIght now? You could do that before all the split did was open up a few more pokemon to use it doesn't change the way you battle at all because you're still going to target specially defensive mon with physical attackers.

>These are all extra features that do not make the essential parts of the game more accessible.
Except the pass powers and HAs both enhanced the main game in regards to training, breeding, capturing, mon usefulness and more with the entralink and dreamworld being the root of if them both.
Going by your logic the split us just as useless as you feel those are.

>>31913921
Good. No one cares what you or I want, though. There's equal number of people who want Zubat instead of Woobat. The problem can easily be solved if you make them both available. You get your Woobat, others get their Zubat. There's no downside to that.

>>31913970
There are also more people in India than in your town, doesn't mean shirting in the street is the right thing to do.

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>>31913529
>>31912306
>>31913011

Have you ever stopped and thought, "why do people like gen 5 so much?"

The reason why generation five is my favorite is because of three major reasons.

The first and most notable is the villainess team which contributes to the amazing storyline. Generation five was essentially commentary on the entire concept of Pokémon. With one of the few times in gaming where the "villainous team" was arguably morally on the right side of the issue. Pokémon defends it's "universe" because it's battling within itself that conditions a better world, a world of trust and compassion, not the lack of battling.

This is why Black and White works so well, because they are absolutes representing opposite ideologies, when in all reality we find out that the world is much more complicated, much more gray. "battling can be good"

The second being the psychology behind Ghetsis. An evil man who created an organization catering around morality, bringing good people into it, while subsequently raising a gifted child with the organizations core ideology, one that is arguably good, to only use the success of good people to subsequently enact the ultimate evil. And it was successful. Unlike other Games, the villainous team actually won, they beat the champion, at least for a while. I mean, Cynthia would've likely taken down Cyrus if the player didn't.

Almost every single villainous team in the series has not been able to control the legendary Pokémon. Often that foils their plans, team plasma didn't have that problem because Ghetsis used N. He conditioned him to be good so Ghetsis could be bad.

Thirdly, it's fresh. And what you don't like with BW Pokémon wise, shouldn't be a problem in BW2. It does still have a number of good Pokémon, the region is reflective of the Yin Yang concept, a circle... The gym leaders are more involved than most gens... And so forth. That's just the tip of the iceberg too.

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>>31912658
While not my overall favorite I think golurk may be the coolest pokemon ever made.

>>31914086
Please save all of these retards on this board who can't have a decent fucking conversation about anything. Including OP.

>>31914176
/vp/ can't be saved.

>>31914374
clearly

>>31913529
>Is there anything objective in an argument about pokemon games?

Yes, like gameplay flaws for instance.

>you shout with spergitude, NEGATIVE, THAT IS NOT OBJECTIVE. ONLY OBJECTIVE TRUTHS CAN BE PROCESSED.

Yeah because retards on the other side going, "HURR DURR ALL THE UNOVA POKEMON SUCK WORST GEN EVER" are totally any better. Stop acting like a victim.

>>31914176
too many /vpol/ crossposters and children for this board to be decent outside of a few threads

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>>31913723
>Digimon Tri has none of the good parts of the first season

>>31913764
The online was a natural progression, prasing it is like praising gen 2 for having colors.

Not to menton how awful it was for its time.

>>31914777
Are you fucking dissing Tri?

Normies don't care about anything other than the Pokemon. They just mash through Dialogue like the rest of us and expect to see Pikachu, Eevee or some familiar face without realizing Unova wasn't going to have any older Pokemon until Postgame. As a result, they complained because "N-NOT MUH CHARIZARD!!!1"
It doesn't matter how good or bad the game was, if Normies can't use their Sacred Genwun Cows or Lucario or Greninja, they're going to complain until eventually all of them know not to buy it because of the aforementioned.

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>>31914871
>Not to menton how awful it was for its time.

>glitchy as fuck
>DS didn't support all security types

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>>31914915
It's nothing like the original one.

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>>31915082
>>31914915
>the Digimon, the ones supposed to be the stars of this show, are sent to the TV to chill in irrelevancy

>>31915082
You're right, it's better.

>>31913200
I agree that Kalos is the worst region but holy shit are you nitpicking.

>>31913200
>Legendary birds put in for no reason
>Mewtwo put in for no fucking reason
Dumbass. They had to be in Gen 6 because of the pentagon, otherwise they would be impossible to use online.

It's why ORAS was completely stuffed with legends.

>>31913200
>Legendary birds put in for no reason
>Mewtwo put in for no fucking reason
Literally every older legendary in a new gen.

>>31915103
>>31915082
I completely forgot about this show. How is it?

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>>31912658
>>31912670

>>31912570

>people

it was just 5 anons obviously from 4chan trying to rile people up cause genwar baiting is the easiest trolling you can do.

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>>31912658
I like toads y'see

I'm thinking that most of the hate for gen V comes from a bunch of normies who haven't played the game, saw stuff like Trubbish and you can guess the rest.

>>31915649
>teen drama
>fanservice
>barely any interaction with digimon
>slice of life instead of adventure
>not enough fights and villains

I didn't like it.

>>31912586
You are a shame. Gen 5 and 7 are the worst gens

>>31912586
>likes gen 5
>and 7
>but gen 4 is halfway down

You disgust me.

>>31915737
You have no idea what any of those words mean do you

>>31912607
>implying it wasnt

The PWT alone shits on every other game.

>>31915737
Sounds disappointing, though I did not expect much from it.

>>31912658
B U G S
U
G
S

>>31915837
You should probably watch Tri instead anon.

>>31912894
>gen 5 gave use the most new Pokémon EVER
>bitchbabies cry cuz they cant YOOSE MUH BRUUUHHZZZ
>GF start making games for babies.

It's simple really.

>>31913890
So that's what his deal was with that coin.

>>31915737
>>barely any interaction with digimon
>missing the entire sections with the digimon
>>slice of life instead of adventure
>Everything has been about this Virus infecting digimon and making them go crazy
>>not enough fights and villains
>forgetting the virus, the return of the digimon emperor who was an evil Gennai and Himekawa

Have you even watched Tri?

>>31915886
isn't that gen III?

>>31915931
gen3 had below 140 new mons
gen 5 had more than 150

>>31915931
What? No.
Gen 3 added the second most, third if you include gen 1.
It also had older pokemon too.

>>31915969
>>31915982
I mean everyone hated gen III initially because you couldn't use most of your bros for a long time too (either way it cost a lot of money since you need gamecube games and/or multiple gba games) if I am not mistaken? Everyone in my area shat on Ruby/Sapphire because Charizard was missing.

>>31916007
That's just a /vp/ meme no transfers didn't really piss off too many people because they knew why it happened. Also multiple games has always been a thing in the series.

>>31916287
>they knew why it happened
Gen III has been the largest cash grab though, you can't justify gen III and then hate on people for disliking the gen V transfer issues

>>31915763
I actually really like gen 4, they aren't linear to eachother if that matters

>>31913721
>It wouldn't be that bad if older Pokemon were available
You have shit taste
Unova only was best part of the games

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>>31912658
Favorite mon in general. I hate Excadrill's design, though.

>>31916365
What are you talking about anon? Are you mixing me up with another person or somthing?

There's nothing wrong with gen 3 or 5. 3 because the issue was down to the hardware and how they communicated and 5 because there was no issue you could send up your old mon once you finished the game like every other gen.

>>31916007
People shat their pants because when RS initially came out, the hacking/datamining scene wasn't as prelevant as it is now, so only a couple of people knew that all Pokemon were actually in the game, just temporary unavailable. So prior to the announcement of FRLG many fans seriously believed that GameFreak just removed 70% of all popular Pokemon from older gens forever and also blocked transfer from older generations (which was actually a hardware-related issue but obviously autists didnt care about finer details like that at all). It was like the Mega Evolutions in Alola shitstorm we're dealing with right now except 1000 times worse.

Long story short, removing Pokemon from the game is serious fucking business

>>31915649
Pretty damn good so far
Latest episode starts with the origins of the Sovereign in the Adventures universe
They were the partners to the first Digidestined

For which fucking reason are people judging Gen5 from Pokémon and not actual facts/gameplay?

Gen5 is the best generation alongside with Gen4 and Gen7 actually. Black/White have best stories and Black2/White2 best gameplay over all main games. It was the peak of Pokémon.

>>31917132
>For which fucking reason are people judging Gen5 from Pokémon and not actual facts/gameplay?

>not muh gen 1!
That's it.

>>31917279
Also, Pokémon is a subjective opinion
Gen 5 have too many nices Pokémon: Zoroark, Seperior, Gigalith, Volcaron, Excadrill, Scrafty, EVERY genies, Reshiram, Zekrom, Krookodile, Golurk, Archeops, Darmanitan (Normal), Galvantula, Eelektross, Bisharp, Hydreigon, Genesect, Braviary, Haxorus, Chandelure, Zebstrika, Samurott
The other are mediocre/trash

>>31912658
Whoever uses Chandelure in their "durrr things are pokemon dats dumb hurrrrr" argument deserves a slow death.
It's a fire/ghost chandelier that sucks souls people for fucks sake. Can you get more badass than that?

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>>31917348
>Mienshao
>mediocre/trash

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>>31912658

Gen 5 easily had some of the best designed bugs in the series....but one of them stands at the apex as best bug.

>>31913265

Close second

>>31917501
E F F E M I N A T E

>>31912337
literally who

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>>31912658
Pic related and Klinklang.

Not shitposting. I love them.

>>31918548

I believe you, gen 5 had a lot of exceptional designs.

I think what most people don't get is that gen 5 was trying to be this generation of kid's gen 1 with a huge variety of designs that end up being parallels to a lot of older ones (but were still unique in their own right). The problem is that it inevitably gets compared directly to gen 1 and people who grew up with gen one are now (mostly) jaded adults who look back on what they loved as a child fondly and scrutinize everything new.

The reality of it though is that all pokemon are cut from the same cloth and an actual fan would stop looking at "gens" like a retard and love or hate the pokemon on a case by case basis.

>>31912674
fpbp. The whole Snivy line is great.

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>>31913034
Does someone need a hug?

>>31918548
"Literaly garbage" stops being funny when people start using it unironically.
I don't think a city garbage pokemon could possibly look more perfect than this line, the figurative meaning of "garbage" shouldn't apply here.