>Just look those stats guise ! he's going to be OU!

>>31910413
Literally nobody ever said that.

>>31910413
One of my favorite designs of this gen. So sad

>>31910413
Wishiwashi is overpowered

>no speed
>no hp
>no recovery
>needlessly gimmicky ability
literally who said that

>>31910672
Seems like a good candidate for the move tutor

>>31910413
>Slightly lower bulk than Dusknoir
>Has Darmanitan Atk with equal SpA
>Ability that it's forced to have is basically Zen Mode, but purposely bad
It's ehh

It's basically Slaking but with Defeatist cranked up to 11 instead of Truant.

Is there a single good mon with a purposely crippling ability a la truant?

Is GF likely to fix this guy at all?

>>31910695
If anything it's defeatist with a form change

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>>31910413
Sucks to be a smogonfag, but that's hardly news.

I mean, he's viable.

...if you stack Leftovers, aqua ring, and leech seed on him

making mons with huge base stats but with a horribly crippling ability to balance it is the worst meme gamefreak has ever come up with

>>31910743
>not going all the way and including Ingrain, and if in Doubles, a dedicated Heal Pulser

>>31910747
the ability itself isn't even the problem, it's basically just 25% less hp than normal
the problem is that it has 50 fucking base hp as it is and no recovery of any kind

>>31910760
Say GF adds moves for it in whatever game they have brewing. What move(s) would mitigate this drawback to make him actually competitive?

>>31910824
recover and curse

>>31910853
I doubt he'd get curse. I could see recover though

>>31910760
i mean you could use a ResTalk Set

I'm actually surprised I didn't see one in the battle competition. I thought that it would have made a beastly attacker under Trick Room.

>>31910413
The thing was made for Doubles with Heal Pulse or Trick Room support (WW was made to hit as hard as 2 mons). The problem is that, even with those stats, that HP means in Doubles you're going to drop under 25% pretty quickly no matter what.

>>31910893
doesn't work when you get 2hko'd by everything

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>>31910549
What about this guy

Imagine a world where gimmicks don't trigger Smogonfags

>>31911031
>Kommo-o
it hurts

>>31911071
See if you can justify a spot for wishiwashi in a super singles battle tree team. I don't see that going past 10 battles. I WANT him to be used, his schooling form looks badass. His flaws are just too prohibitive

>>31911031
minior would instantly be ou A tier if it had fucking accelerock

>>31910695
Schooling is a way better Zen Mode

>>31911031
>being this wrong

>>31910413
HINDERING
ABILITY

>>31911146
Would it really be that overpowered to give him the schooling ability stats, while also having a beneficial ability? Doesn't seem that outrageous

>>31911031
Give this man a little credit. At least he was right about decidueye, primarina. and incinaroars positions

>>31910672
uh aqua ring dumbass

>>31910714
Archeops was very damn annoying back in gen 5 due to flying gem acrobatics.

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>>31911031
>minior
>brutal

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>>31911031
>Golisopod

>>31910413
It's the single most broken thing in cc1v1 ban it already.

>>31911228
Changes nothing about it. Still dies in 2 hits. It's like people complaining about Defeatist's effect(and not its presence entirely). It doesn't matter if Archeops gets at half health because Archeops is frailer than a pear and gets shot down with a single move.

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>>31910413
Nah, that's just you being too wishy washy

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>>31911031
>Access to quiver dance

WHY COULDN'T HE HAVE BEEN RIGHT
OF ALL THE FUCKING DANCES NOT TO GIVE IT WHY QUIVER

>>31910672
Does it get Stockpile? It could have a sort of Cro-washi set with that.

>>31913234
Pair it with liligant in dubs

>>31913228
Kekked

>>31910549
A lot of people say it was gonna be OU, even thinking that from the moment they show the how schooling work it was clear this was gonna be Archeops 2.0.

>>31913281
>Doubles

USELESS
FOREVER I TELL YOU POOR BIRB

>>31912928
The only thing keeping Minior from high OU is his vulnerability to priority.

100/100/120 is terrifying after a Shell Smash.

>>31911031
>OU
>Ribombee
>Kommo-o
>Lycanroc-Midday
>Golisopod
>Wishiwashi
>Minior
>Silvally
>Comfey
>Salazzle
>Dhelmise

Has anyone ever been this wrong in the history of /vp/?

>>31911228
They could of made it so Schooling had some regenerator properties with it healing on switches.

Schooling is Defeatist done right.

>>31916404
>tfw Archeops will never be good
Why can't they just have Defeatist kick in at 25% health or less like Schooling does when it deactivates? Or just get rid of Defeatist entirely?

>>31916404
Defeatist, truant and slow start really need to be fixed. They were used to stop pokemon that in their original gen would been OP but no longer are due to power creep.

>>31913822
Yeah, the denialfags of gen 5

>>31916267
>Whenever a pokemon with Schooling is sent out it recovers to 100% HP.
That would make it scary.

>>31911031
Hahaha

>>31913234
Because only bugs and 2 plants learn it, it would be dumb.

>>31913253
No, that's another part of its problem. Its only boosting move is double team.

>>31916456
>rise of best bro Regigigas
Sign me the fuck up.