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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You! [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

Next episode:
>SM16 - A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!! [Mar 2nd]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!! [Mar 9th]
>SM18 - I-Maji-ne?! Mao's Cooking Operation! [Mar 16th]
>SM19 - Intense Electric Shock Training! A Rematch with Kapu-Kokeko!! [Mar 23rd]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>31880040
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SM15 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=902053

SM14 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_014_The_Fruit_of_Courage_Lilie_and_Rokon![H264_720P][191D68A6].mkv.torrent

XY&Z38 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_038_Kalos_League_Victory!_Satoshi's_Ultimate_Match!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][FC32602B].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_Special_-_The_Legend_of_XYZ![H264_720P][A2FE050C].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 16 - A TINY TRIO ON A BIG ADVENTURE!! (MARCH 2ND)
>Mokuroh and Ashimari are lost. They attempt to get back to Satoshi and the others, but the Rocket Gang get in their way. The duo is in trouble... but then a Nyabby shows up!

>Summary:
>Satoshi and his friends are playing at thee beach. Suddenly a strong wind blows through, and the balloon Mokuroh and Ashmari entered gets blown off somewhere. The two are now lost, but then a wild Nyabby appears. It decides to escort them to where Satoshi and the others are. But then the Rocket Gang gets in their way...? Will the three make it to Satoshi and his friends?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Kiteruguma
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Chinami Nishimura: Nyabby
>Fumiko Takekuma: Hidoide
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 72 (Feb 26th)
>Sako-kun Presents Ways to Have Fun With Sun/Moon After Completing the Story / Abareru-kun Attempts Anime Dubbing!

SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!! (Mar 9th)
>When Satoshi arrives at the Pokémon School, he notices that his Electric-Z has gone missing. Rotom approaches the panicking Satoshi, offering to help search for it. Rotom is crazy about crime shows, and says it wants to solve a mystery just like a detective does.

SM18 - I-Maji-ne?! Mao's Cooking Operation! (Mar 16th)

SM19 - Intense Electric Shock Training! A Rematch with Kapu-Kokeko!! (Mar 23rd)

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/6lUViAS6/file.html

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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Dawn best girl.
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I love Lillie
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I really hated this last episode. They tried to make it cute so hard it ruined it for me.
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>>31882792
But the episode is cute.
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>>31882792
Are you OK?
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>>31882772
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Unrealistic wish time: Rockruff will evolve into the original Twilight form after coming being exposed to Necrozma.
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>>31882863
>into the original Twilight form
Nice.
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>>31882767
>>31882830
thigs i want to cum
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>>31882901
Good taste.
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Literally
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>>31882901
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We were bamboozled all this time thinking he actually owned Rockruff
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>watching through episode to find things to stitch
>suddenly Zygarde
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>>31883005
Will Wolololol come back?
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>>31883033
Nah
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>>31883005
What is this? I didn't see the episode yet.
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>>31882916
thanks

>>31882963
Keep posting my friend, thighs are my fetish.

All girls allowed.
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Am I the only one who sees this and half expects expects her to stop with her rear square on and say, "kokon poipoi cocotama," while waving her ass back and forth a few frames?
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>>31882729
This art style kind of gives me Naruto vibes.
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I want to kill Lillie.
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>>31883232
elaborate please
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>>31883232
Deadrena pls
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>>31883232
Ash pls
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Hey /pad/.

Can anyone recommend some good episodes of the anime that feature Raichu? Besides the Lt. Surge episode.

Thanks!
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>>31883068
The location of the fight club.
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>>31883330
Not this shit again
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>>31882901
10 year olds? Really? Go back to your room pedofag, you're a waste of oxygen
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>>31883330
I like this one. DP 88.
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12376805/6/Team-Magma
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>>31883384
Ow the edge
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>>31883355
Daily reminder that 10 years olds are considered adults in this show. They even are capable to find a job a that age and travel alone without parents supervision.
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>>31883400
Daily reminder that fuck off Scott.
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>>31882729
Today's episode was great. SM still hasn't disappointed me.
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>>31883400
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>>31883384
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>>31883091
So next week is gonna be a high-quality episode? This alone makes me think there's gonna be another well-animated sequence
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For those who missed it from last thread

https://twitter.com/tomoya0401/status/834712027729842177

>I watched Anipoke for the first time in a while. Iwane-san is awesome! As an early notice, next week's "A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!! " is directed by myself. Even though it's the very next episode, Iwane-san has participated with a lot of key animation...! Iwane-san's power is too amazing...

This is from the episode director, Tomoya Takashi, for next weeks episode. He sure is a big Iwane fan.
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Posting best ship.
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>>31883400
This fucking weeb is trying to justify pedophilia? You're better of dead, you're a total waste of oxygen
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Serena: Kalos (French) Satoshi best Satoshi
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>>31883431
No
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>>31883330
I always enjoy watching Pika and Goliath, since it brings up Pikachus evolution again.
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>>31883420
The preview showed a lot of well animated shots, it should be an episode thats quite easy on the eyes.
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>>31883433
Keep crying.
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>>31883431
Tomboy
Wasn't he (Misty) with Tracey
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>>31883437
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>>31883438
Yes.
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>>31883459
No. That's a meme.
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Yajima x Tomiyasu when?
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>>31883487
>No. That's a meme.
Denialfag, did you watch BW?
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>>31883511
Tracey is more likely with her sister than with herself.
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>>31883511
Most people haven't.
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>>31883454
Lol keep being a weeb, go jerk off to underage girls in your room since that's what you enjoy most
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>>31883476
>>31883431
maybe your...*hmph* ship become a subplot like Amour one day, anon!
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What happened with that Sofatcles best boy spammer? Did he realize that fatfuck is part of the background?
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>>31883535
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>>31883476
>>31883431
Amour killed this shit
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>>31883542
In the next movie, that's for sure.
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>>31883575
Will the other regions appear? What they mean with the regions hatchu?
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>>31883565
Post the original pic.
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>>31883591
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Pokeshippers are retards that think the baby breath flowers in XYZ47 is a Misty reference
Remember that Yajima put them and the kiss was his idea
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>>31883565
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>>31883634
They are stupids and denialfags
Most of them are spics and american
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>>31883452
>no Greninja
Ash gave 5 pokeballs to Oak, not one
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>>31883634
All Mistyfags and Amourfags are autistic, anon.
They only compete to prove who is worse.
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>>31883657
They will kill themselves
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Ash×Serena - Amourshipping rules! A match made in heaven!
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>>31883634
Right
That shit only exist because of the 4kids dub
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>>31883662
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>>31883635
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>>31883681
Patently wrong.

Also the flowers mean about as much for a Misty ship as they do for Serena (as in nothing at all).
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that Magmar Stole the Show
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>>31883689
Cute
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>>31883701
did you get lost on your way to 9gag
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>>31883691
Lewd, post more
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>>31883697
Yeah is ambiguous but those mistyfags think IT IS a misty reference
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>>31883701
That magmar was pretty cocky, also what a weird choice of Pokemon in that fight club, never expected to see Braviary in the anime again but nice to see some 5th Gen faces now and again.
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>>31883747
Because it is a misty reference.
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>>31883761
Why would Yajima put a Misty reference? Mistyfag
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>>31883755
They're all route Pokemon in Alola. You can get Rufflet and Vullaby at level 15 or so.
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The Amour community is still crazy active on Twitter , especially in Japan because they post new Satosere fanarts basically everyday... Some arts even got noticed by S&M staffs sometimes... like this stuff : https://twitter.com/asame_poke/status/819170773780680706
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>>31883782
>The Amour community is still crazy active on Twitter , especially in Japan
Obviously it is the only confirmed pairing by the staff
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>>31883764
>we figured out the flowers are ones called Baby's Breath
>Misty is Kasumi in Japanese
>Kasumi comes from カスミソウ kasumisō (Gypsophila)
>Gypsopila: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gypsophila
>"Plants of the genus are known commonly as baby's-breath"

Uh oh... flowers blooming back in Kantô in Ash's home where his adventure started, Kantô where Misty is.. Misty.. literally called Baby's Breath.. Baby's Breath flowers literally in Kantô..
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>>31883782
>crazy active
>post from Jan 11

most amour is terribly drawn spic shit. quality art is about as abundant as the other ships.
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>>31883782
Autism
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>>31883706
What a qt.
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>>31883810

DEEPEST LORE
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>>31883810

>>31883817
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>>31883810
Pathetic.
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STILL IN DENIAL
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>>31883832

>>31883817
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>>31883813
>quality art is about as abundant as the other ships
kek
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>>31883859
you're right, there's less. my bad.
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>>31883810
Whatever makes you sleep well anon
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At this point there's no reason not to ship Ash and Serena.
Don't you want to be on the winning side?
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Man, this season of the anime sucks...
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>>31883902
Loving dead things is not good
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>>31883908
Fuck off with this meme. SM is good. How could you not enjoy todays episode?
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>>31883923
Maybe you are 6-14 years old
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>>31883908
>>31883941
what do you want?
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>>31883923
>Be watching today's episode.
>Brother walks into room.
>"This is shit, how can anyone enjoy this?" he asks.
This is how someone views it from a neutral perspective, some that is not in the grieving process after the loss of XY.
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>>31883941
so the target demographic?

are you seriously implying XY was more mature? please have mercy on my sides
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I bet you all would be praising SM if Yajima worked on an episode me included
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>>31883452
>Only 3 Unova Pokemon fully evolved under Ash's care
>And one he didn't own until the second evolution
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>>31883923
>
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>>31884024
Even the best writers can't fix this. The setting and intentions of the show doesn't allow it.
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This show is a sprawling bureaucracy of rules dictating how it goes.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12401154

Midday or Midnite?
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>>31884024
>He is working in both Serena's special and return to the main cast
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>>31884234
Nice fanfic
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>>31883810
I remember this was posted in the thread when the last episode of xyz aired,didn't Adamant disprove it? Also while it might give misty gags some closure,it's not really the same ash
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So which form will Rockruff will evolve to?

I'm betting on Midnight since it likes to fight at night.
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Why people blame Matsui for this shitty season , Tomiyasu is the director not her
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>>31884254
Ask him
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>>31883974
Right, because that's totally not the average opinion of random people about the anime as a whole. He would say the same thing about XY.
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>>31884276
K. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant!!!!!!
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>>31884215
Learn to spell.
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i love SM
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>>31884299
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>>31884184
Yajima, writer, What??
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>>31884254
Yeah, it was something about the message being in the "language of flowers" and the fact that most Pokemon characters have flower names.
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>>31884388
Midnight, not midnite.
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Lots of stitches today, even though 3 are of the same shot with slight variations.
1/13
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>>31884464
2/13
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Flowers were reference to the movie, not shipping, you autists.
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>>31884471
3/13
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>>31884474
Probably, anon, probably...
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>>31884478
4/13
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>>31884474
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>>31884254
>it's not really the same Ash
What?
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>>31884499
5/13
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>>31884517
6/13
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>>31884531
7/13
I really like this shot, it's maximum comfy and worked really well with the training montage.
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>>31884550
8/13
>mfw 15 episodes in and already 100 stitches
I'm doing to many.
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>>31884516
Different hat
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>>31884561
9/13
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>>31884573
10/13
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>>31884580
11/13
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>>31884586
12/13
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>>31884601
13/13
Probably one more for this episode I want to do but am to lazy to go for it right now.

And here's the updated imgur of all the stitches so far: http://imgur.com/a/CElwS
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>>31884561
You've really put in a lot effort Stitchanon, how do you do it?
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>>31884621
I'm a NEET with not much else to do. I also like seeing full shots put together because they often times look really neat.
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>tfw bought the small substitute doll for $10 because of a valentine's day sale
>didn't buy the medium one cuz it was for $40, and no large one
>now watching this episode makes me feel the need to collect them all

Fuck. Who else here owns these dolls?
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>>31883452
Why isn't Greninja there?
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>>31883923
No, SM is a mess. I bet the writers themselves don't even know where they're going with the story.
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>>31884720
I've been dying to get one for ages but never took the time to buy one. I would even buy the socks and I probably will for the hell of it.
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>>31884720
Only the small and medium, don't feel like spending 300$+ on the large one.
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>>31884763
My guess is that until we get a reappearance its basically in a "released" status since, like Pidgeot, it's off protecting something.

Ash has both of their Pokeballs still, but he has no way of having them transferred to him like Goodra can.
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>>31884650
Well, I love your work and hope to see as much of them as you're willing to do.
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>>31884822
But then why add Squirtle and Primeape. At least Ash has Greninja's pokeball. Can't be said for the other two.
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>>31884215
>eclipse
screenshot this
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>>31884837
Squirtle is with the Squirtle Squad, and if he really needed to he could contact her to borrow it for a little while.

Because even though its with Jenny it has returned since leaving like at the Battle Frontier.

Primape I don't really know, but I guess it's "In training" status is different then it being released. Because it's still Ashs but is training similar to how Charizard was at the Charific Valley.

It's away getting stronger, but still Ashs Pokemon.
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>>31884847
What would an eclipse form even look like?
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Ash is already acting like a dog in SM. What the fuck are they doing with Ash?
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>>31885095
petplay fetish
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>>31885182
Matsui pls
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>>31885095
he is living under his own bushido
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>>31885222
>>31884499
>>31883355
>>31885222
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>today's episode was breddy gud
>still barely any discussion
Fug
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12376805/6/Team-Magma
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>>31885182
why stupid fujos can't leave shotas alone? disgusting
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>>31885325
Women were allowed to write that episode, something that should not have happened.
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>>31884499
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>>31885296
Last thread had some discussion amongst the shitposting but everyone has said what they wanted and spread out.
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>>31885296
Because it was actually a 3/10 filler episode, of course a SM viewer will think this episode is 9/10+
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>Rockruff vs Substitute doll
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>Ash actually has a rockruff now

I'm actually suprised
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>>31885540
I don't like SM so far but it wasn't 3/10, I thought it was pretty good. More like 7/10
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>>31885343
>women
The episode was written by Tomioka you tard. Go back to /pol/.
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So now Pikachu and Rockruff vs Meowth
>literally Tom and Jerry
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>>31884474
What kind of director sends a message to both the viewers AND the staff that actually contains plot information when those same staff are already going to know about it?

The message was one of gratitude to the viewers and the staffers who worked with him on the series. All these people looking for shipping hints in the very last scene of the series where he returns to his house are smoking something. Even making it a movie foreshadowing reference (i.e., the same flowers appeared in the teaser trailer) would be weird.
>>
Ded
>>
So does anyone know what Kukui's explanation for letting Ash get Rockruff was? Ash presumably thought Kukui was Rockruff's trainer, as did many viewers, when in fact it was just a domesticated wild Pokemon that Kukui had as a pet.
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>>31885692
Remember that some scenes from the trailers don't appear in the movie
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>>31885540
>Pokemon capture episode
>filler
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>>31885692
>All these people looking for shipping hints in the very last scene of the series where he returns to his house are smoking something
Stupid pokeshippers
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>>31883330
Why s it that Raichu is either a complete jerk or a complete pussy in the anime?
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>>31885737
>stupid Pokéshippers
Stupid degenerate amourshippers
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>>31885715
Yeah, which would only further prove my point if that were to end up being the case. People, mainly shippers, making much ado about a simple expression of appreciation and love for the viewers and staff.

>>31885737
It's not just the Pokeshippers. Even some Amourfags think it had something to do with Serena simply because the "kiss happened in the same episode" + "flowers mean something about undying love both of the familial and romantic type, gratitude, and reuniting with loved ones, and they happen to be used in weddings sometimes"
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>>31885540
>the "every SM episode is filler" meme
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>>31885692
>>31885737
>>31885775
Not this shit again
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>>31885705
I remember the Rockruff specifically taking some commands from Kukui (to watch the house or something?) but I could be wrong.

I think it's just they realized there's not much pokemon to choose from and rushed it out.
>>
No webm of Ash tanking the Rock throw?
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>>31885820
Yeah, he has said that to Rockruff before, but I don't see how that's relevant here.
>>
Here is your "best season, fluid animation, best waifus" SM
Result: Ded Thread
No Hype
>>
I was going to ask if this was Ash's first rock type. Then I remembered he had a Boldore.
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>>31885933
(you)
>>
I'm really glad that we're back to the days of 2D flames and attacks for the most part, it's way better then the CG flames we've had over the last couple years.
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>>31885965
Fuck off Scott
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>>31885933
Arora!
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>>31886042
Who is main SM girl?
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>>31885296
Eh. The interactions between Ash and Rockruff felt forced. I did not like Hala battle either which is strange considering these kinds of episodes used to be the highlights.
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>>31886050
Pick your favorite and enjoy.
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>>31886050
Fato
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Can you make you obscure pokegirl waifu in this?
>>
>>31886076

>>31885965
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>>31885975
XY had 2D flames
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>>31886077
What is Lillie doing?
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>>31886080
Posting this shit in a Pokemon thread
MODS
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>>31886100
You do realize it's a Pokemon-specific game right?
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>>31886084
XY had a mix of 2D/CG flames and BW had those disgusting CG flames.
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>>31886106
He means that pic of eggs character
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>>31886067
Cute
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>tfw those 2 seconds of battle between lyranroc were better than the beam spam that was XY
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>>31886143
XY was just Naruto crossed with Dragon Ball Z, switching to Dragon Ball Kai when we hit XYZ.
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>>31886154
Tomioka pls
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>>31886143
No.
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>>31886154
>>31886143
sun and moon animefags are this bad
wow
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>>31886080
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>>31886187
Now do one for Lana.
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>we'll see Rockruff hanging out with Snowball, Popplio, and Hedgesmeg.
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>>31886187
DELETE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivyQqgUpvKY

I really miss this
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>>31886187
ENOUGH
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>>31886187
Unf
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>>31886230
Kiawe pls
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>>31886205
Comparing that to this makes me so depressed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MVnXAqvIDE
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>>31885975
I'm glad too
CG fire attacks looked bad outside of the mega evolution specials
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>>31886191
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>>31886299
Eh?
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>>31886276
>>31886205
>comparing the first important battle to the league semifinals
Just stop.
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>>31886276
AshGreninja VS M-Sceptile, the best fight in the entire anime took place at the end of the series.

Ash VS Hala is nowhere near that level, an actual comparison would be Hala and Viola's fights.
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>>31886080
>>31886191
>>31886299
Nobody gives a shit.
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>>31886333
>3 people have participated
>nobody

fuck off
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>>31886276
come on, the battle was objectively good
it's just...the art style who is too much off-model for pikachu and satoshi
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>Ash finally get a new Pokemon
>Rockruff behave just like Rowlet except its a dog and it doesnt sleep.

What is the point ?
At least one of them will evolve i hope.

Now if Ash could get a Pokemon like Grubbin that don't act like a cute shitmon, that would actually make this season bearable.
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>>31886345
>they act the same
They act entirely different, have you been watching the anime?

Rockruff is energetic, acts like a puppy, and loves to fight and make mischief.

Rowlet is sleepy, low key, and generally just a comfy bird who doesn't give a fuck.

Pikachu and Rockruff act like actual friends, Rowlet just loafs around and doesn't really interact with anyone besides Ash.
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>>31886345
>Rockruff behave just like Rowlet
But that's just wrong.
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>>31886322
>>31886323
Ash vs. Viola or the very first Ash vs. Clemont are still miles better than Ash vs. Hala. Animation and writing wise.
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>>31886354
Fug
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Team Rockett catching Bewear when?
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i know is shit but i tried.
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>>31886396
Ash vs Viola is far inferior to Ash vs Hala in terms of animation
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>>31886322
Okay compared to this then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPn3BWiLnOs
Point still stands, it's depressing to see how much it regressed
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>>31886423
Definitely not. Surskit ice skating and signal beam for example was rad as fuck. Plus no use of speedlines and way more dynamic use of the environment. Graphic wise too Viola just blows Hala's out of the water.
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Satoshi knows what he wants
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>>31886441
>touching her ass
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>>31886415
Never. Bewear caught Team Rocket.
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>>31886386
>>31886390
It still have the same Cute/Funny Pokemon archetype just like Rowlet with maybe being more energetic.

Still after more than 15 Episodes in the season and with only 2 new Pokemons in the team i hoped for WAY better than that.
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>>31886423
Compare Fletchling vs Surskit to Rowlet vs Crabrawler and you'll find out you're wrong. The way they animated Rowlet's aerial movements is sloppy.
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>>31886438
What about before XY then?
OS, AG, DP, BW, the Hala fight was better animated then nearly everything in those.

XY spoiled us everyone can see that.

But comparing fights that were over 60+ episodes in the making to the 10th episode of a new series is dumb.

Hala's fight was fluid and smooth, it was short, but it looked good.

The biggest issue people have isn't the animation but the art style. I really don't think people know the difference between the two.
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>>31886441
Autism
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>>31886441
>>31886451
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>>31886191
>>31886419
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>>31886438
>>31886456
The Z-move scenes alone had better animation than anything from the first XY gym battle

Iwane is good, but SM010 had Aito Ohashi, Yasushi Nishiya and Isao Nanba working on it and they are all better animators
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>>31886482
You're right. It's not animation it's art style. Not sure what stuff like speedlines falls under but it just makes the battle feel less dynamic. And it's true when I go back and watch AG or DP battles the speedlines bother me too.
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>>31886188

Honestly... SM is the badly done crossovet of One Piss and Yokai Shit with a touch of Doraeshit.

"The cross between Naruto and DeeBeeZee" is actually better than SM.
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>>31886493
No
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>>31884471
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>>31886552
Stop replying to yourself Kasumi
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>>31886557
Yes :)
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>>31886519

However, Z moves are actually stock footage with an overdose of speedlines. SM feels like a low budget anime just like Sailor Moon and Saint Seiya with the return of the stock footage.

Compared to that, XY(&Z)'s foreground footage is more dynamic because it only recycles the characters' wireframe, but plays with the light and the scenery.
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>>31886552
>>31886557
>>31886573
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>>31886538
>>31886552
I thought you were told to off yourself, Kamille. Now do it.
>>
>>31886427
You say the series has regressed, but had XY not come out before SM, SM's fight scenes would be praised.

It wasn't long ago that we had shit like this here: https://youtu.be/P-bCbUg3SXY?t=8m36s

>>31886455
You do realize Ash has 3 Pokemon, not 2.

Ash acquired his 4th Pokemon in episode 36 of XY.

He had nearly his entire roster by the end of episode 11 in Kanto.

I'd rather he spend time with his Pokemon and we actually see them bond.
>>
>>31886594
Ok Dawn
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>>31886606
Tomboy
>>
>>31886519

But the balance, mostly inclines in Iwane's favour, because he does the keyframes all by himself. Ohashi, Nishiya and Namba all have a team surrounding them.

However, i kinda wish for Naotoshi Shida and Ken Ootsuka joining SM animators. Shida's animation is among the most fluid seen in TV anime actually.
>>
>>31886621
Well yeah SM is still better than BW definitely
>>
Has he won a league yet?
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>>31886639
>Tomboy
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>>31886725
Even so, this saga just feels like a waste. Like it feels like nothing remotely important will happen in it.
>>
>>31886752
She looks more feminine than Misty (tomboy)
>>
>>31886725
That's the point I'm trying to make.

Had SM come out after BW it would be looked at the same way XY is in regards to the battle animation. It still uses speedlines yeah, and some of the animation is pretty bad for example Rowlet falling onto Mallow during the butler fight, but overall it is WAY better then anything in the past besides XY.

Like I said above in response to someone elses remarks, the biggest issue people have is with the art style, not the animation.

Give it time, we're only 15 episodes into the series.

Hopefully episode 19 gives us a look at what a potentially important battle will look like.

>>31886747
Orange League.
>>
>>31886833
Has he won a REAL league yet?
>>
>>31886845
Obviously not. The writers seem to not want Ash to win a league till the end of the show for some reason
>>
>>31886845
>he wasn't around during the Kalos League
Fuck off newfag.
>>
Looks like SM isn't going with the tradition fire/water/grass/bird thing again either just like XY didn't. Rowlett takes up both the grass/flyer this gen just like Talonflame was both fire/flyer last gen.

I don't think Ash is getting a water type this gen. Most likely Greninja will return during the Ultra Beast arc and that's it.
>>
>>31886862
I think their logic is "winning a league = becoming a Pokemon Master" and "Ash becomes a Pokemon Master = Ash's journey is over and we can't use him anymore"

Nobody ever thought to just change his ambition to "become world champion"
>>
>>31886833
>Orange League
That's basically like winning the gyms and beating one additional trainer who's very good. It doesn't count for shit the way that a league tournament that weeds out competitors one-by-one until you get a single champion does.
>>
>>31886920
Fuck off, Scott.
>>
>>31886920
>I don't think Ash is getting a water type this gen.

I agree with this, there's not really any water types this gen that suit him anyway.
>>
>>31886922
Which is stupid because we see characters like Alan won the league and it doesn't mean shit. He's not going after the Elite 4, and then there's all the other trainers who won leagues before too....they either failed at the Elite 4 or didn't bother. Like Virgil who won the Unova league or Tyson in the Hoenn league...where did they go off to? They obviously didn't care about the Elite 4.
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>>31886937
>>
>>31886922
Considering the show has outright stated otherwise, that's obviously not their logic.
>>
>>31887130
Well then, him never winning makes no sense whatsoever.
>>
>>31887130
Then they have no idea what good writing is.
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>>31886922
I think the biggest problem is if Ash wins a League there is no excuse to hold him back anymore.

If he wins a league he has no reason to challenge more gyms which is the main quest in the games. Yeah it you can say he can go challenge another region to train or whatever, but to have him lose after winning 1 defeats that purpose, and he can only win so many before it becomes pointless for him to continue entering them.

The only way to properly get rid of Ash is to phase him out while having the protagonist of the "new series" be a character the audience is already familiar with.

Look at Aikatsu. Ash needs his own Akari. A character who takes up the mantle of protagonist after slowly being introduced to the viewers.

Imagine if Lillie was similar to her game variant and Alola had a proper Pokemon League.

Ash goes through Alola, becomes League champion after travelling with Lillie and Hau through Alola, and the series ends with Lillie leaving on her journey and we start to follow her journey through Kanto.

As for Ash, since he wouldn't be a master yet, he goes somewhere to train or for a 2nd League win before challenging the Elite Four or Champions League.

Ash and Lillie both enter say the Kanto League, Lillie loses early on and Ash wins his second league and then we have something that the series has never explored before.

Ash goes to the Champions League/E4, wins then decides to go become the Pokemon Master on his own.

Then we have Lillie's quest, she goes gets strong for 10 or whatever years then she reaches a level where she wants to fight the strongest trainer. She heads to Mt. Silver where she hears that Trainer is, reaches the top and the person on top is Ash having achieved his dream.

Rate my fanfiction.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfJYc8VZGSI

>0:19 - 0:21

Z-Zamasu???
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>>31887170
Autism/10
>>
>>31887188
ZAMAS
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>>31887188
>HD Preview
>looks like shit
Nice capture of the live stream.
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>>31887170
If he wins a league and gets to challenge the Elite Four, then loses, he'll have to enter another league in another region to challenge THEIR Elite Four. Winning a league is not his end goal.
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>>31887214
>kek
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>>31887241
I did not make stitches for this purpose, anon.
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>>31887241
What did Lillie say in the episode?
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>>31887307
See >>31880809
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>>31886922
The anime would work better if Ash was allowed to win some leagues. Just imagine if Ash had:
>lost Kanto
>lost Johto
>won Hoenn
>won Sinnoh
>lost Unova
>won Kalos

That way, we could be speculating if Ash would win in Alola or not, instead of being 100% certain that he will lose. Imagine an anime where there's uncertainty about whether Ash will win this league's region, or the next one. Where we could be hype to see how well he'll fare against the Elite Four and how many E4s he can beat this series and if he will get to battle the Champion this time.

But no, he has to choke and lose because for the people in charge of the anime, winning a league=becoming a Pokemon Master. I guess that means Alan, Tobias and Jon Dickson are masters already. Fuck them.
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>>31887368
Yeah, nobody discussed if he'd win in Kalos, anon. Nobody.
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>>31887170
I'd rather have him losing leagues forever than that garbage.
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>>31887368
Would have been better if Ash came in the finals in Hoenn but still lost, then won the Sinnoh league as his first.
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>>31887368
I'd rather he lost Sinnoh,that'd keep Kalos as a redemption arc like a lot of us saw it as.
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>>31887307
>Lillie: D-doesn't it hurt?
>Satoshi: At first it does, but you'll get used to it soon.
>Lillie: S-satoshi... ///
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>>31887519
http://www.strawpoll.me/12398302
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>>31887614
>sexualizing lillie
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>>31887614
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>>31887720
Cute.
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>>31887744
not cute.
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>>31887720
They look cute together.
Literally the sun and the moon.
>>
We will never get to see Z moves in XY animation.
>>
>>31887791
They would look weird t b h
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>>31887852
But i think rockruff is based anon, just asking.
>>
>>31887852
Fuck off minority.
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>>31887871
>>31887904
I SAID OUT
>>
New:
>>31888141
>>31888141
>>31888141
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>>31887519
Fuck off.
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>>31887170
The latest games didn't have gyms and Ash currently isn't even trying for the Alola League because it doesn't exist yet, They could easily have Ash win the Alola League then just phase out the Pokemon league plot.

I kinda want to see Ash compete in the Sinnoh and Johto Battle Frontiers and to have a season as a Pokemon Ranger or something
>>
Anyone else watch the sun and moon anime just to see decidueye, and are waiting for rowlet to evolve. So they can get to how actually good decidueye would look in the anime. And how fast can he actually react.


Anyone else wold drop the Sun and moon anime if they turn rowlet into alolan chespin.
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