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Dramatically improve shitmons with justified changes

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Rampardos now receives Dragon Dance as an egg move, and its second ability slot is now Simple, because its pokedex entries often mention its small brain.
> Its skull withstands impacts of any magnitude. As a result, its brain never gets the chance to grow.
> The result of repeated headbutts is a skull grown thick and hard. However, its brain has shrunk in size compared with Cranidos's.

Dragon Dance is now a combined Swords Dance and Rock Polish, which would place a Level 100 Jolly Rampardos at 858 Attack and 472 Speed.

What tier is he now?

BONUS ROUND: What tier is he if he also gets Accelerock?
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>>31874854
how about the most obvious change to Rampardos... FUCKING ROCK HEAD! it learns take down, double edge and head smash its the god dang headbutt pokemon. and to add insult to injury they go and give rock head to Tyrantum 2 gens later
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>>31874854
>still frail
Good luck boosting
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pic related has their speed and defence stats swapped
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>>31874948
Could go reckless instead for more damage.
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>>31874854
At least BL, OU if he gets Accelerock. Sash Rampardos would be insane- use Swords Dance for a +4 boost and prepare to assrape all opposition, breaking walls with Head Smash and killing sweepers with Accelerock.

Just look at these calcs!

+2 252+ Atk Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Celesteela: 259-306 (126.9 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Rampardos Head Smash vs. 248 HP / 236+ Def Skarmory: 193-228 (112.8 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Ferrothorn: 110-129 (60.7 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

+2 252+ Atk Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Scizor: 462-544 (134.3 - 158.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

No defensive mon can switch in on DD Rampardos and not get one or 2hkod

+4 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Ferrothorn: 165-194 (91.1 - 107.1%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

As for Swords Dance, walls cant stop it, sweepers are OHKOd by Accelerock- your only savior is opposing priority users and Lele

+2 252+ Atk Rampardos Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 342-403 (112.5 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
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>>31874973
>what is a focus sash?
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>>31875373
What is rocks
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>>31874854
just like Crawdaunt too slow for DD, it needs the +2
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>>31875434
>what is Simple?
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>>31875444
oh my bad i didn't read that part... that's incredibly stupid kill yourself faggot
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Heatran now gets Slack Off (volcano going dormant) and levitate(volcano propelling its contents into the air).
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post yfw Rampardos gets Accelerock
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>>31875536
>Heatran
>Shitmon
>Needing any buffs
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>>31875536
let's just give hetran a special variant of huge power while we are at it
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>>31875707
/vp/ has taught me that anything with a x4 weakness is a shitmon.
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>>31875712
There should be one of those, imo. Just not on heatran.
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>>31876468
Especially since huge power and pure power do the same thing.

Duplicate but no counterpart is silly.

Special intimidate would be nice too.
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>>31874854
Give this spore
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>>31875580
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>>31876530
why is this not a fairy btw?
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>>31876530
>97% accurate sleep powder
Are you fucking serious?
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>>31876486
Unnerve should have been that desu
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>>31875457
that's the point, rampardos is stupid, ergo simple
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Boost Iron Fist to 30%
Boost Shadow Punch to 80 BP
Give it a stat boost

HP: 89 > 100 (+11)
Attack: 124 > 130 (+6)
Defense: 80 > 90 (+10)
SpAtk: 55
SpDef: 80 > 90 (+10)
Speed: 55
BST: 483 > 520

For such a lategame pokemon, it deserves better BST. This allows it to be fairly tanky while also hitting very hard.
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>>31876882
97? I thought it was 100 accuracy since when are there moves with accuracy in increments other than 5?
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>>31876949
Even then, I can't think of a OU mon with Unnerve that would benefit from that instead of their current ability. Even Tyranitar would prefer Sand.
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>>31878092
Bewear could like it. As would mewtwo. And it would give Pyroar an ability that actually works for a change.
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>>31877981
Compound Eyes boosts accuracy, so after the multiplier, it hits 97 acc.
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How do we fix this?
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>Hitmonlee gains a new ability
All kicking moves have priority

fixed
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>>31878736
It's not bad at what it does, it just lacks moves. Thunder/Tbolt and Hidden Power. That's about all it can run. Maybe throw a Twave in there but its really just filler
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>>31875707
on the note of your picture:
>Boost Def and Sp. Def to 106
>Boost HP to 121
>It now learns Reflect, light screen, recover, and stockpile through leveling up.

Idea is to help it be a tanky, punching bag-mon.
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>gets Dancer as its secondary Ability because it's obviously based on hula before Oricorio was a thing (probably also give the rest of family secondary Abilities for compensation) and dex talks about it dancing so much
>Attack 80->60; HP 75->95 (it tries to be defensive of the branch, but it has the same Attack as Vileplume)
>Learns Aromatherapy (Vileplume can but it can't???)

any other ideas anons

>inb4 retcon to grass/fairy when grass/fire makes more sense
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>>31874854
The only thing it needs is priority rock headbutt attack that also damages it.
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>>31879421
Just like Hitmonchan has punches boosted it should have kicks boosted.
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>>31879593
>priority recoil
accelerock but on drugs
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>>31879600
>Its legs can stretch double. First-time foes are startled by its extensible reach.

He has the reach
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>>31879616
>priority kicking moves
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>>31879523
I don't think it even needs the screens, reliable recovery alone would help it a lot, and give the mega fucking regenerator, healer has no reason to exist, even in doubles.
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>>31878736
First it needs a good ability like Espeon's or Sylveon's. It could keep Eevee's Adaptability or give it another offensive oriented ability.
Then a wider movepool. Things like Flash Cannon, Energy Ball, Psyshock or even Ice Beam (so it would have something different form Megaman or Raikou) comes to mind.
And last GF should boost stats on eeveelutions. 130/110/95 and then 60's might be good for first/second gen but now they need better numbers. That boost should be slightly in the higher stats and increase in the smaller ones, without touching their most useless (Jolteon's Attack or Umbreon's Special Attack).
So everything besides its main gimmick: being a pure electric type, evolved from a unstable DNA doggo
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>>31876967
my rampardos is very intelligent
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>>31880618
>tfw to intelligent for OU
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>>31874854
>>31874948
the skulls of actual pachycephalosaurus were solid bone, had they impacted anything the creature would have died from traumatic brain injury
nintendo did the realistic thing
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>>31878736
just needs a bigger movepool
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>>31880695
Read its dex entries
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>>31880695
[citation needed]
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>>31880695
>skulls are made out of bone
riveting
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>>31880695
Marowak's skull is also made out of skull but it gets Rock Head none the less.

Maybe if Mega Rampardos wore another Rampardos' skull over its own skull it would get Rock Head?
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>>31880702
All the Eeveelutions need better movepools.
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>>31878736
Stat-wise it should be better or at least as good as Starmie, but it's not due to its limited movepool.

It could use some more utility moves like maybe Spikes and Toxic Spikes (which makes sense thematically, it also learns Pin Missile after all), and it needs better coverage options - Ice Beam doesn't make a lot of sense on it, but it would greatly improve its offensive presence.
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