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Ideas for Gen 8 Meta

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Aka Make Blissey great again edition

>Evoilite nerfed from 50% increase to 30% increase.

>Leftovers restores 1/12 of health, increased from 1/16.

>Same with Black Sludge for Poison types, and damage increases to 1/6 for other types.

>Light Clay/Terrian Extender counterpart for the Room moves.

>Make Run Away work in-battle, by letting Pokemon with that ability not be trapped by any move/ability.

>Also make Illuminate work in-battle by decreasing a mon's accuracy by 1 stage every time it's sent out.

>Change hidden ability of some pokemon to Fur Coat/Fluffy like Blissey for example

>Rock types now resist Electric attacks

>Ice types now resist Water type attacks

>Overall nerf of to the power of some items, the Choice items for example grant increases of up to 30% instead of 50% and Life Orb damage output decreases from 30% to 20%, and the health lost decreases from 1/10 to 1/12. Cause in it's place, a new battle mechanic can get introduced that will allow 2 of your 6 Pokemon have 2 items, so long as one of those items is a Mega Stone or Z-Crystal.

Pic barely related
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>>31852360
Kys stallnigger
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>>31852360
Then Choice items will lose all of their use with exception of Choice Scarf.
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If you make ice resist water, you should make it so that scald hits ice for SE damage. It's boilling water after all.

Honesty I think the only reason why it doesn't right now is b/c GF legitimately understands the ice is a shit defensive type. But that's what you get when you're one of the best offensive types in the game.
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Terrain/weather abilities only last 3 turns instead of 5
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>>31852360
>buffing stall
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>>31852360
if you're gonna do this might as well nerf every fucking thing in the game
>life orb 1.2
>plenty of items and type items that already boost to 1.2

what's the fucking point then?
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>>31852360
>>Evoilite nerfed from 50% increase to 30% increase.
>>Make Run Away work in-battle, by letting Pokemon with that ability not be trapped by any move/ability.
>>Ice types now resist Water type attacks
Only good ideas, every thing else would be terrible. Like what the fuck are you thinking about Life Orb or Lefties recovery, that's absolutely retarded.
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>Make the new max level 150 or some shit like "mega Z 101" that increases stats drastically of every pokemon
>Keep all the moves the same power as they are

There, fixed the game for ya
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>>31852360
>Evoilite nerfed from 50% increase to 30% increase.
I was so hyped when I heard the rumor of this happening for gen 7... But then of course it wasn't true. Why the fuck haven't they nerfed it yet? Even just a little would be ok.
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>>31852360
what's up ilikepinkmons?
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>>31852360
>Evoilite nerfed from 50% increase to 30% increase.
No.
>Leftovers restores 1/12 of health, increased from 1/16.
>Same with Black Sludge for Poison types, and damage increases to 1/6 for other types.
Stall is bad.
>Light Clay/Terrian Extender counterpart for the Room moves.
Yes.
>Make Run Away work in-battle, by letting Pokemon with that ability not be trapped by any move/ability.
Yes.
>Also make Illuminate work in-battle by decreasing a mon's accuracy by 1 stage every time it's sent out.
Cancer.
>Change hidden ability of some pokemon to Fur Coat/Fluffy like Blissey for example
I agree, but not for Blissey.
>Rock types now resist Electric attacks
Yes.
>Ice types now resist Water type attacks
Yes.
>Overall nerf of to the power of some items, the Choice items for example grant increases of up to 30% instead of 50% and Life Orb damage output decreases from 30% to 20%, and the health lost decreases from 1/10 to 1/12. Cause in it's place, a new battle mechanic can get introduced that will allow 2 of your 6 Pokemon have 2 items, so long as one of those items is a Mega Stone or Z-Crystal.
No, because fuck stall.
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>>31852360
lmao go fuck yourself
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>>31853268
I'll never understand why people use quagsire instead of gastrodon or seismitoad
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>>31854836
Unaware
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>>31852360

"Hurr durr let's nerf eviolite guys!!"

It's a cool item that makes NFE/LC mons playable. Don't nerf it because your shitty fully evolved mon isn't as good as its previous form.
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>>31854856
oh right
that explains what mamoswine is doing in OU as well
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>>31855046
Mamo is OU because his typing/utility is a lot better in the meta right now. For a few examples, Koko cant touch him and Lando/Chomp cant OHKO and die to Icicle Crash.
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Or just gut both Chansey and Blissey

>Blissey and Chansey lose Natural Cure and gain Super Luck
>Seismic Toss PP reduced to 10 base PP
>No longer gains access Thunder Wave or Stealth Rock
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>Eviolite Nerfed

why not just make it so a Pokémon has its evolution's stats like it always should've been
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>buff leftovers
>nerf choice/life orb
FIVE MORE MINUTES MOM
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>>31853268
>ilikepinkmons
>reading this guy being an annoying cunt in the dugtrio suspect test thread

Holy shit, I just remembered some anon made a showdown replay thread a while ago about some stallfag being a cunt, definitely the same guy

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-433150626
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>>31855376
holy fuck, this chat
>youre still a plenb
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>>31855305
why even include evolutions at this point then
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>>31855376
>Oh man you flinchhaxxed my Sableye
>fucker doesn't flinch once and pulls off a Knock Off
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>>31855576
cool designs and Megas and different move sets and types and abilities
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>>31855376

>uses Rotom-W
>uses le earthen genie of good meta
>calls others cancer
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>>31855724
Hi OP
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>>31855509
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>>31853259
The only pre evo eviolite makes better than its evolved counterpart is chansey (However in ubers, blissey is better). Every other eviolite user is just as good (porygon2) or worse than their evolved counterpart. Nerfing an item to nerf one mon some people (read: you) don't like will never happen.
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>>31853259
>nerfing eviolite because one stupid pokemon abuses it hardcore when it lets a few people keep their favorite pokemon unevolved and still useful like porygon2 or doublade
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>>31856229
>eviolite doublade
do you hate fun or something?
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Introduce a fifth tapu ala Regigigas and its ability disables terrains.
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>>31855264
>No longer gains access Thunder Wave or Stealth Rock

Lack of access wouldn't change anything. All you have to see is every magic guard clefable set and that they all have soft boiled, a move exclusive to gen 3.

If your talking about non smogon singles, chansey isn't viable in battlespot singles, and if your playing non smogon 6v6 singles, chansey is the least of your problems (read: Mega mence, blaziken, and other ubers lite that would be allowed in a non smogon enviornment)
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>>31856248
What do you mean, it's a pretty good sweeper in UU
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>>31855376
This is why I love stall, too bad the guy wasn't running Toxic. U-Turn and Volt Switch are shit.
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>>31856431
>I like not playing the game
I bet you inject too
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>>31856476
Hey, if Smogon wasn't banning fun shit like Moody, Shadow Tag, and Evasion moves, I wouldn't have to resort to stall.
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>>31852360
Fug stall, but there are some things i liked in OP's post
Here's the real deal for Gen 8:

>Room Stabilizer: increase Room Moves to 8 turns

>that run away thing

>illuminate: decrease opponent's evasion instead

>i like those typechart changes, also:

>steel weak to electric
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>>31856519
You know Showdown has metagames where those things are allowed right?
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>>31855046
For reference, mamoswine doesn't even get unaware
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>>31852360
>>Light Clay/Terrian Extender counterpart for the Room moves.
>>Change hidden ability of some pokemon to Fur Coat/Fluffy
>>Make Run Away work in-battle, by letting Pokemon with that ability not be trapped by any move/ability.
The only good ideas
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>>31855264
>Blissey and Chansey lose Natural Cure and gain Super Luck
Natural Cure make sense for them
>Seismic Toss PP reduced to 10 base PP
NO
>No longer gains access Thunder Wave or Stealth Rock
Lets not take moves away
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>>31856519
>Shadow Tag
>Evasion
>Fun
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