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Cardtards get shiny tapus before gamefags edition

Last thread >>31822176

New? Check the pastebin for advice on starting the game, client information, a guide on the various theme decks/products you can redeem in-game and more.
>http://pastebin.com/gPEnw6GW (embed)

You can also check this FAQ:
>http://i.imgur.com/HoY1IaG.jpg (embed)

How to progress in PTCGO, tl;dr edition:
>complete all Trainer Challenges (Cheat Engine's speedhack strongly recommended to speed up AI games) to get 45 free packs
>play through using Basic decks to unlock them for versus play
>farm Versus Mode theme ladder for Tokens and Tournament Tickets
>Enter Theme format tournaments whenever possible
>enter Standard/Expanded ticket tournaments and accept that you'll lose
>you'll get tradable tournament chests and sometimes tradable packs
>DON'T OPEN THEM
>Instead, trade them for the cards you actually want for a deck you want to build, most cards go for like 1-3 packs each.
>Public trade is like the GTS, if you want proper results, put up your own offers.
>if you don't know what deck you want to build yet, see http://www.pokebeach.com/forums/forum/tcg-competitive-play.156/ or check out tournament results for a list of viable decks http://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/state-province-championships-2016/decks/week-four/
>more frequently updated decklists w/tournament results can be found at http://thecharizardlounge.com

To see what your PTCGO stuff is worth, look on the PTCGO forums in the trading section. Top Cut & other big trading companies will typically overprice cards, expect to get lower. Keep pack value in mind when trading.
>http://forums.pokemontcg.com/forum/33-in-game-item-exchange/

Tips for Code Giveaways:
>Post them as an image with the QR code covered. Don't just post it as plain text, bots may snatch them, don't post uncovered QRs, bots may snatch them
>Standard etiquette is to take one code per dump per person
>Always post your pulls
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suggestions to improve my deck? i finished it yesterday and played a little - results were not bad nor really really good, but thats maybe cause i don't know how to play it a 100% right - besides that deck i play a vespiquen/nightmarch deck that works pretty solidly but is really bad if my starting hand and first few extra cards suck. Also got a fundeck with babylugias a lugia ex and an aggron but thats just for the lulz
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I don't play the tcg anymore, so here.
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>>31839091
thanks a lot appreciate it
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Tauros GX is a pretty dumb card. Looks like I need to look into building decks based on killing in one hit
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code email fag here.

Who wants some motherfucking codes? I have a stack about an inch thick of S/M and RS codes, and I'm getting a RS box in the mail later today. just make sure to post pulls here :D
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>>31839163
Either that or just trade with it, that's what I usually do, but I play a lot of non-ex basic decks. He KOs my setup but I take 2 prizes for his 1. The ninja boy plays are the most problematic for any 2HKO centric deck which is why I think for the forseeable future all top tier decks will be OHKO centric decks like garde/mtwo/yveltal/darkrai.
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>>31839192
i'd love to take some :)
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>>31839192
I'll take a few ROS codes, see if I can pull a gaymin. My SM pull luck has been horrific though and I think I already have a playset of every card I care about from that set.

[email protected]
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>>31839203

post an email, dingus
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>>31839192
>>31839203
email is [email protected] -- sorry not that high IQ
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>>31839196
Yeah looks to be the case. I took a small break after steam siege because evolution was shit and it seems some of my decks just don't work anymore. Tauros just destroys my MScizor list, which was my favorite deck to play. Guess I still have MMewtwo and Darkrai/Giratina. Is Giratina even worth playing now? It does nothing against all the GX
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>>31839214
Most GX cards are still meme tier other than Tauros, look at the top 32 at Anaheim and there are only 3 GX centric decks so far, the next expansion will change that but until then Giratina is still okay.

Salamence is getting shafted 2x as hard though, card will be useless in a few months. Most people are moving away from darkrai/dragons and into darkrai turbo.
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For reference, this is the meta

>Lapras-GX actually took a spot
>item recovery is so fucking good that people will run a stage 1 line just to have it and then actually get top 3
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>>31839241
People who fell for the volcanion/lurantis/greninja rock paper scissors trap mostly annihilated each other in swiss. Energy acceleration and Vespiquen decks are what ended up placing high.
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>>31839241
Why posting an incomplete image?

>>31839279
I dont see greninja online since SM came out, no surprise to me it didnt make it.
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Anyone has a recent MMewtwo list? Has anything changed since SS?
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>>31839381
M-Mewtwo didn't really gain any good cards in the last two expansions.
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>>31839346
>Igor so good he placed top 10 without a deck

Based.
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>>31839192
[email protected]

Please and thank you.
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>>31839192

If you've any left-

[email protected]

Thanks kind anon!
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>>31839192
Sure pham, [email protected]
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email guy here. I see y'all. Gonna play some Bloodborne for a bit and then I'll start sending shit
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I'm saving all the addresses posted in this thread
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Is Yveltal as a deck just dead in the GX meta?

Fright Night loses a lot of its value and without him having a relevant position it becomes much harder to set up a Yveltal EX to respectable damage output

Pitch Black Spear was really good pre S&M standard, but it barely impacts half the games you play anymore.

Darkrai/Tauros instead??
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>>31839192
I'd be down man, cheers. Pulls will be posted.

[email protected]
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>>31839661
so what, you can sign my junkmail account up for some porn sites?

>>31839675
Did you see the top 32 list? Obviously not. We won't have enough good, consistent GX cards until guardians drops.
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>>31839192
Pulls will be posted, [email protected]
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>>31839192
If you have some left, I'll post my pulls.
[email protected]
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>your timer is still 22+ and your opponents is down to 10 minutes left.
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>>31839988
i feel you so much
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>>31839192

>[email protected]

UK anon from yesterday.
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>>31839988
>when you beat your opponent on turn 2 because his deck has no counterplay to Jolteon-EX yet he continues to desperately play on trying to rope trick and lysandre his way out of the trashcan
>ends up spending 15 minutes of playtime to just mill himself and lose anyways
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>>31839192
i'm in dude
[email protected]
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>>31839192
[email protected]

Hook a nigger up, please
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>tcg not streamed until worlds

good going cardtards
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>>31839192
[email protected]

I'll post pulls if you send some codes my way.
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>>31839144
>Rattfratz
Fucking incredible
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>>31839279
Volc and Lurantis also lose to Yveltal and Mewtwo since they have to pile energy to do anything.
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>>31839192
Im in. Been trying to get back into the game for a while. [email protected]
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>>31840452
you hate my german cards?
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>>31840789
Primal Clash, Double Crisis, Roaring Skies, and Ancient Origins are going for sure. Beyond that seems more uncertain to me, since it feels like they'd want to rotate out the whole BREAK block all in one go (i.e. would be weird to rotate BREAKThrough but not BREAKPoint), but getting rid of the whole BREAK block in one swoop right now would leave a relatively sparse amount of sets left.
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>>31839192
[email protected]

Yeah, me again please, if you still have one
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>>31839192
[email protected] if its not too late i appricate it
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its not too late guys. Im in America Central Time Zone. As soon as Amazon delivers my RS box today I will start sending codes
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1 out of 3

Germany if matters
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>get crushing hammered on active
>do the old float stone switcharoo to max elixir it
>sawp to the bench and the elixir works
>cant swap back for some fucking reason
I was able to do it earlier fucking hell
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2 out of 3

Germany if matters
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and 3 out of 3
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>>31841255

Oh boy, I love LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE cards in my rare slot!

Thx tho bb
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>>31841270
What the fuck the evolutions secrets are supposed to be in the uncommon
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>>31841270
Who is Imakumi anyway? The creator of PTCG for gameboy color?
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>>31841303
Just an old japanese meme
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>>31841303
>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Tomoaki_Imakuni
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>>31839192
[email protected]
hope im not being greedy here since i got some last night, but anything is appreciated
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>>31841263
Much appreciated
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>>31839192
[email protected]
I'll hook this thread up with some dank-ass pulls, senpaiília.
(Repost because I fucked up the email first time, oops.)
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>>31839192
[email protected]

Thanks anon.
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>one Decidueye
>played by a pro player
>not even with Vileplume

Memeowl confirmed for just a meme
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>>31841436
It's annoying but even with fogp is far less consistent to set up and doesn't deal enough damage to grind through mass FFB'd big basics. Just requires too much deck investment, also gets 100% shut down by early garbo.
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>>31839192
[email protected]
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>>31839192

[email protected]

If you have any left to spare, I'd be happy to have some.
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>final round of tournament
>all 4 VS prized

As usual.
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Repost from previous thread, want some more opinions:

Anybody what are good cards that'll keep their value on PTCGO?
I'm getting close to 100+ SM codes. With the Guardians set coming out in a few months I don't want the value of my SM packs to go down so I'd rather put them into cards that value may go up with the new set.
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>>31842030
Shaymin - Value will slowly begin to dip in the summer as rotation approaches, value will plummet the day rotation is officially announced (or skyrocket if it's not being rotated which is highly unlikely). ROS pack value will basically track Shaymin's value

Octillery - Value will increase sharply if, as people theorize, the rotation will keep BKT on since it will be the strongest draw power pokemon remaining.

Oranguru - Value will increase slightly after rotation if shaymin leaves and it will increase more if Octillery does

PLF packs and SR ultras - These ultras are higher rarity than SM ultras and will not be reprinted, so the value of these super expensive cards and the packs you draw them from will remain high. SM ultras will likely see a slow decline in value, especially if they're reprinted in future SM sets.

Lurantis-GX - Value will take a hit after poor performance at Anaheim, but will increase quite a bit with SM2 due to Bulu and baby Lurantis.

Cards that are already in Legacy like Junk Arm have an extremely stable value and are a good way to store value especially since there is no indication that they will ever rotate sets out of legacy and into unlimited only.
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>>31842030
We still don't know most of what the guardians set will be, so who knows what will get more usage.

If you want a sure shot go for shaymemes, their price floats really a lot so it's easy to get a profit. Ignore Decidueye GX for now, but be on watch: they might reveal something that can act as a substitute for forest and this will inflate it's value.
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>>31842140
>if you want a sure shot go for shaymemes

That seems rather counter-intuitive given its third year of rotation is looming?
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>>31839192
[email protected]

will post pulls
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[email protected]
will post straight away.
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>>31842173
Shaymin is still mandatory in expanded so if you're going to sit on it for a long time it's actually going to increase in value, it'll drop as standard only players dump their shaymins on the market when the rotation is officially announced but it'll start rising again.

And if you're just holding on to them until guardians, that's still like 4-5 months before rotation, there's still gonna be huge demand for Shaymin.
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>play fun meme deck
>every matchup is proper top tier deck that destroys me
>play volcanion
>shit decks that just concede turn 2 when i have 4 volcanion ex on the bench and start steaming up
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>>31842391
I like Volcanion, but I fear the memefrog, what to do?
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>>31842415
Bring the promo giratina and pray.
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>>31842415
Don't care about it because nobody plays greninja nowadays.
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>>31842415
Like >>31842428 said. I fucking never get greninja but if you do its not too hard to keep eating froakies/frogadier before the break comes in
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tfw im a new player and was setting up mega slowbros when frogadiers bring 3 more and then break happens. I still have much much to learn.
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>>31839192
[email protected]

thanks pham, im feeling the shaymeme today
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Just got 3 M Gardevoir EX in a trade

Should I make the deck?
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>>31842527
Why would you trade for 3 of them if you don't want to play them?
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>>31842545
IRL, not on PTCGO. Threw them into a trade to equal out value
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Still haven't gotten my Roaring Skies box yet. Email guy here. Amazon promised by 9 pm CT today, and it's almost 5. I'm dumping Prime after this shit. They always pull this "delivering at the last minute" garbage. Sorry to make you bros wait.
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>>31842570
God bless you f a m
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>>31842561
Only if you have 3 Shaymins, 2 Dragonites and 2 Hoopas
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>>31842570
no rush man, the game will still be here tomorrow. I had to wait seven full days for my SM box.
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>>31842570
Darn. In which case, remove [email protected] and put in [email protected] instead.
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>>31842570
dont worry about it man, id hope no one here would be greedy enough to get mad over not getting free shit on time
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>>31839192
[email protected]
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Are there any decks revolving around magearna as a main attacker? Or is it stuck being support for the moment?
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>>31842889

Soul Blaster isn't an attack you want to build a deck around, but it can be useful as a backup attacker in Rayquaza if you run metals. I want to try it with Mewtwo to help shore up the Gardevoir matchup but I've heard that it just kills your consistency.
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was thinking of using it with either break brozongs, or solgaleo. Its my first time working with metal decks, and I wanna prepare for my bro metagross gx coming in may's expansion.
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and yea will consider that if it doesn't work too well.
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Does Bronzong + Solgaleo work?
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Lawrence Xu - Turbo Darkrai
Igor Costa - Yveltal/Garb/Tauros
Ryan Sabelhaus - MMewtwo EX/Garb
Rahul Reddy - Vespilutions/Zoroark
Kenny Britton - Turbo Darkrai/Dragons
Jeffrey Cheng - Vespiquen/Zoroark
Tony Jimenez - Turbo Darkrai
Travis Nunlist - MMewtwo EX/Garbodor/Espeon GX
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>>31842954

I haven't tried it, but I imagine it does, and would struggle with non-EX attackers. Maybe a tech Bronzong BREAK would help? We'll be getting a vanilla Solgaleo in SM2 that swings for 170 with no real drawback thanks to Ultra Road so maybe that'll help.
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>>31842993
normal solga? link to info?

but that deck also has major troubles with archeops.
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>>31842993
>would struggle with non-EX attackers
How so, out of curiosity?
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>>31843070
You have to attach and discard a shitload of energy to attack, you need a lot of bronzongs on deck to keep the flow going. It's less of a problem in expanded than in standard where steel lacks a good energy accelerator but still a big issue for the deck especially when one archeops gets into play and cuts off your flow of evolutions.
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>when you find a good deal value-wise that is a fucking chore to do
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>>31843092
Evosoda still works :^)
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>>31838929

[email protected]

if you have any SM codes, you can giveaway [time to work]
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>>31843111
have fun fitting those into a deck that needs to fill out 3/2 stage lines. Even so, the prize trade is going to be annoying against a deck that already has a super good matchup against it, Volcanion. Not the most common deck in expanded but definitely viable.
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>>31843065
http://www.pokebeach.com/2017/01/all-sun-moon-strengthening-expansion-pack-card-translations

Solgaleo – Metal – HP160
Stage 2 – Evolves from Cosmoem

[M][C] Shining Arrow: Does 50 damage to 1 of your opponent’s Pokemon. (Don’t apply Weakness and Resistance for Benched Pokemon.)

[M][M][C] Sol Fang: 170 damage. This Pokemon can’t use Sol Fang during your next turn.

Weakness: Fire (x2)
Resistance: Psychic (-20)
Retreat: 3

And yeah, Archeops is a big problem for you as well.

>>31843070

The deck needs a lot of resources in order to consistently stream 230s. It's also overkill to blow three energy on taking out a one-prize attacker. You have no attackers to force a seven-prize game or reliably combat non-EX decks that will gladly take 230 if it means losing all your energy. Also >>31843092 this anon has it right.
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anyone got a decklist for the Anaheim Gyarados deck?
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>>31839192
[email protected]

Cheers mate.
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>>31842956
>no volcanion
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>>31843223
They get countered by garbador pretty hard

two made top 32 though
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>>31843260
daily reminder that people actually tried to run decidueye in a serious event when Garbotoxin Garbodor is present in standard.

Decidueye is annoying as fuck on ladder but if you just play a garbo/mewtwo deck it's such fucking dogshit, you just roll over those shit kids.
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>>31843290
This. I don't see why it's so expensive and Tauros is so cheap. Tauros is by far the best card in the set right now solely because it fits right in to the best decks in the format.
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>>31843313

Because Decidueye was overhyped thanks to FoGP. Tons of HP, a spammable ability, a great GX attack, and the ability to swarm them t1 made for lots of hype.

And then Anaheim was its big test and it flopped. It might do well in Expanded but we'll see.
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Nice to know both Yveltal and Darkrai lose absolutely nothing after rotation except Shay like everyone else. I guess silent lab and rope but those aren't that big.
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>>31843370
>It might do well in Expanded but we'll see.

It's at least 100% better than ToadBats. Doesn't quite feel tier 1 though.
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>#24 Oricorio (Sensu) – Psychic – HP90
>Basic Pokemon
>[C] Ominous Dance: For each Pokemon in your opponent’s discard pile, place a damage counter on your opponent’s Pokemon in any way you like.
FUCK BEES
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>>31843477
I miss bats. Was the most fun I had playing this game
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>>31843484
and fuck NM
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>>31843105
kekking. They are building a deck, and rather than split it into individual trades or dividing it up so that it is more manageable, just said "fuck it" and threw what they needed into one trade.
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>>31843260
Any time im against garbo i just lysandre and kill it with volcanic heat. Unless i totally brick
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I've given up all hope of getting 4x FA ultra balls after looking at the market. All sorts of offers with 80+ packs just sitting there untouched. Trading companies might ACTUALLY be the way to go in order to get a playset.
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>>31843630
80+ what packs? I see one with Steam Siege, but definitely not S&M. Most of the huge offers are scams that include garbage cards or worthless packs.
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Box still hasn't arrived guys. I'm starting to lose hope. I already called Amazon customer service and they were totally fucking useless. Just my fucking luck that I'd be last on the fucking route.
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>>31843833

something might arrive on time for you and not early?

this is a fucking outrage
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>>31842570
Where are you? If you're in SoCal, a mudslide closed the 15 so the sort centers aren't performing as they should
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starting to send out codes. They'll either be S/M or Roaring Skies. I'm not going to bother sorting them. Please post pulls
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>>31843845
fucking rudefag
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>>31843313
Probably because Tauros is a 1 of in most decks, two of at most while with decidumeme you need a full playset if you want to run that memedeck so demand is super high.

>>31843428
not only do they not lose nothing, they get Umbreon and altar of the moone, the latter is a fucking retardedly good stadium for darkrai/dragons.

baby toxapex might actually exist in the meta as a 1-1'd pseudo-check to switchspamming
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>>31843874
Cool
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>>31839569
Here with the first pull. (1/4)

I'll admit, I want to use Fearow competitively and I'm not ashamed.
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>>31843993
(2/4)

Not bad at all.
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>>31844004
(3/4)
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First pack you sent me was invalid ([email protected]), not asking for more but one of those code cards you have is still valid.

Anyways, typical sm luck, I get nothing out of this set except cards I already traded for playsets of.
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>>31844024
(4/4)

Thank you again, Code Anon.

I hope you get some good pulls.
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>>31843993

It plus eevees would be a fun budget deck. If only it had free retreat. It'll be even better with choice band, allowing it to hit pretty respectable numbers for just one energy.
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>>31843927

>darkrai/dragons

I think we'll probably get a reprint of it, but isn't DDE set to rotate as it's from Roaring Skies? That would kind of ruin Darkrai/Dragons.
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>>31844083
Oh, that's true. Unless we get a new Salamence or Dragonite-GX in SM which is possible. I figure anything in the regional dex will probably end up in the SM sets at some point.
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Posting pulls as requested (1/4)
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Posting pulls as requested (2/4)
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Posting pulls as requested (3/4)
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Posting pulls as requested (4/4)
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>>31843874
Thanks code bro
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>>31843833
its all good boxbro, just remember that it'll all be worth it in the end
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I'm this Anon from the previous thread >>31823540

Made a few adjustments to my deck. Since I didn't get them yesterday and no mail today, blank cards behind Popplio line are extra copies of themselves, 2 next to octillary are Remoraid.
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Hey guys, is Full Retaliation Gyarados a legit deck or a meme deck?
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>>31844351
>this deck
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>>31844351
Same thing as in previous thread, mixing water and steel won't work very well (at all) in play for consistency.
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>>31844427
Is it that bad? I just wanted to make a deck with my favorite Pokemon

>>31844453
Why specifically?
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>>31844381
Ascended memecore, like raikou/electrode. Probably a t3 deck, it's actually capable of taking tournaments but it's just not as consistent as decks like vespi/yveltal/garde/mtwo/darkrai
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>discarding a supporter to vs seeker it during the same turn

Just discard the VS ffs
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>>31844466
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Anybody got Rockruff promos on TCGO? I can't find any in trade and the only codes on eBay are $3.49, so fuck that noise. I'll overpay on S&M packs or GX cards. I also have that promo Pangoro from Gamestop if you're interested.
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>>31844466
Because when you load your deck with thin lines of pokemon and split your energies to support them you end up getting hands that just don't do shit.

Think of PTCG as a puzzle. The cards you have in your hand and in play are like pieces of a puzzle. The key to winning a game is being able to fit a few pieces together every single turn. When you have shit with no synergy like aggron/m-scizor/primarina/greninja you are much more likely to have turns where you simply can't do anything than you are if you focused on building a deck around any one of those.

That said, you absolutely shouldn't run Primarina in a deck with anything but water and maybe some DCE, and Greninja/Primarina have huge anti-synergy because Greninja is a low cost attacker while primarina scales with energy, so greninja belongs in a low energy deck with good ways to recover discarded energy while Primarina wants a deck with stuff like elixirs to stack up water energy quickly.

Primarina is shit btw, but if you're gonna try to use her you have to build an extremely tight deck around her for it to have a chance at working. Stage 2 lines in general aren't very good right now because of how inconsistent it is to get them in play.
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>>31844517

Are you that anxious to use Lycanroc-GX now, or are you just tryna catch 'em all?
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>>31844555
Wanna try the deck out, got everything except the Ruffs. I'm pretty disappointed by Lurantis/Plume and Fighting just seems good against the meta right now.
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Its fucking time. Lets do this. If there are any females ITT, rub your soles for good luck for me. More code emails coming soon.
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>>31844583
remember to ejaculate on each pack before opening it for good luck
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>>31844572
Disappointed by Lurantis/Plume? What's there to be disappointed by? Just itemlock them turn one.
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>>31844466
your deck is missing one single purpose, and spreading it's space and resources around trying to cover too many bases. As a result, you end up doing three one-third-of-a-jobs shittily, instead of doing one job well. See >>31838509

Mixed attackers need to compliment each other in some way, whether that is sharing the same support cards, or at least one shoring up a weakness for the other. Octillery can be good support for your water types not because they are both blue, but because dive ball works for multiple game layouts.

just in general, your ratios of pokemon counts to trainer card counts to energy are very off compared to all those decks that are proven winners.

first decide if you are trying to build a Greninja deck, a Scizor deck, or a something-else deck then come back. Also how hard is it to rotate a picture. Also also read the FAQ in the OP.
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>>31844583
Weigh them, sell the shit packs for 2 bucks apiece.
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>>31844592
It's not as consistent against the field as I like.
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>>31844583
May Kek be with you
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>>31844608
Just play Yveltal/Something or Turbo Darkrai then
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>>31844611
Digits confirm the will of Kek
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>>31844547
Okay, I see.

So I'll play around with it some more once all my cards get here. It's more of a casual deck though.

I think I'll take out the Steel stuff and make it its own deck, switch some of the steel energies to water, and make the rest more trainer cards or something.

What is DCE?
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>>31844640
Double Colorless Energy
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>>31844621
I will at some point, I just like the idea of tempoing people out on energy right now.
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>>31844597
I was just trying to build a deck of my favorite Pokemon. I'm gonna really take a good look at my deck by doing
>>31844640
I read that it was better to have more Trainer cards than anything, so that's what it was for. I have no idea why it comes out rotated. I'll try to fix it when I post in a few days.

So thanks to the anons who replied and I'll be back with a better deck

>>31844650
Thanks
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FUCKING GALLADES AND HALF ARTS

FUCK OFF

RRRRREEEEEEEEE
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>>31844667
you are right to say more trainers than others, what I mean is less pokemon in general, but fatter lines of the few you want to use.

Less energy in general. And all one type (or one type and supporting special energy i.e. splash or DCE)

Trainers maybe even more than you have. more draw cards.
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>>31844683
Okay, so less Pokemon but more copies, less Energy but more Waters, more Trainers with draw power? Got it

By the way, does Hau stack with Tierno or is it like Sycamore/Juniper where it's one or the other?
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>>31844726

You can use Hau and Tierno in the same deck.

The only reason Sycamore and Juniper are restricted is because the card has a very powerful effect. Draw 3... not so much.
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>>31844381
>>31844475
Isn't football ape also ascended memcore?
Any other decks?
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>>31844726
Drawing "just" three cards is a decidedly mediocre thing to spend your Supporter use on, so it doesn't have the limiter like Juniper and Sycamore does. They have the exact same effect, but because they have different names they're technically different cards. You could actually use four Cheren, four Tierno, and four Hau in Expanded if you really wanted to be supermeme.
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>>31844583
>>31844583

Best pulls from the box. No Shaymin, but happy to get two FAs and a SR. Also, I have a ton of the Dragon Mega Rays and I see they are pretty valuable online. Are they good or something?
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>>31844726
No, you can use as many cheren/hau/tierno as you want because they fucking suck.

x4 sycamore, x2 N, x2 Lysandre, x4 Ultra Ball, x4 VS Seeker, x3-4 Trainer's Mail

This is the basic trainer skeleton that most decks should run. Unless you have a reason to deviate away from this you probably shouldn't. Other trainers vary based on the deck and what techs you want to have, good general purpose one-of cards include delinquent, parallel city, pokemon ranger, hex maniac, and brock's grit. Other stuff like dive/level/nest balls, revitalizer, special charge, and other stadiums depends on what pokemon you're using.
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>>31844819
they're not bad, but not good. I assume most people who buy them pay slightly less than the normal version and don't realize they're getting the wrong card.
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>>31844819

They're valuable online for the same reason Charizard is - it's a popular pokemon (bonus points for legendary status) that has an attack that does an absurd amount of damage.

I play dragon Ray online and it's really fun. Shits on a lot of decks but shines against EX builds.
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>go to league
>1 match against mega ray
>i look like im intently reading a card in my hand then flip it upside down and do the same
>he starts shitting bricks
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>>31844858
what are you talking about.
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email code guy here. You guys gonna be around tomorrow night? I still have a ton of codes. I'm wiped and I gotta wake up early tomorrow for work. I'll be ready to send codes around 7 pm CT. I'm sure there will be a new thread, so I will just make a new post saying Im here
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Anyone else hoping we get Team Skull Pokémon in the TCG? Would be badass yo see and get in the TCH since we got Rocket
, Magma/Aqua, Plasma and Flare
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sure thing. No worries here man.
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Guzma's Goliospod when?
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>>31844900
I'm hoping Guzma and Plumeria do some cool stuff. Plumeria should be like a LaserBank and Guzma should, I really can't think of anything that seems like a cool effect, maybe a Ghetsis, but for supporters?
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>>31844900
>team skull's yangoos
>team skull's whimpod
>team skull's ...?
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>>31844874
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>>31844807
passimian is a bit weaker than gyarados or raikou, gyarados and raikou have both placed top 8 in contemporary meta events (well, not technically contemporary but for the most part SM's presence in the meta is muted atm) and commonly take 1-2 spots in top 32.

Passimian didn't have a single rep in top 64 at Anaheim and it wasn't from a lack of people playing it.
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Will UBs be included in tcg?
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>>31844884
ok, good night senpai
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>>31844929
Guzma - Supporter
Name an item card. If it is in your opponent's hand, you may play it as if it was in your hand. Place the card in your opponent's discard whether you choose to play it or not.

But yeah, after Guardians I want an Aether/UB set and a Team Skull set at least. UBs should have some weird play mechanic like restored pokemon. Like you need a cosmog with the box Lusamine had attached to summon them, or need to use Lusamine/other aether gear like beast balls.
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>>31844991
Ultra space stadium and you need it to be active to put down UBs
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>>31845032
Nihilego can be the hoopa-ex of UB cards.
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>>31844991
Seems too Cedric Juniper-y. The bosses have always had cards that have a pretty strong effect.

Guzma - Supporter

Your opponent reveals his or her hand and shuffles all Supporter cards found there into his or her deck. Then, draw a number of cards equal to the number of Supporter cards your opponent shuffled into his or her deck.

Would absolutely wreck face, just like the hated boss who beats you down and beats you down and never lets up... Yeah. Big bad Guzma is here!
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>>31845032
Like the Mallefic Monsters in YGO? Sounds fitting.
But what happens if the Stadium gets removed? The UBs are discarded? (Not KOed) or since every UB should get an ability; if they're in play without the stadium they can't use it?
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Plumeria - Supporter


Your opponent's Active Pokémon is now Poisoned. Put 3 damage counters instead of 1 on that Pokémon between turns. Flip a coin. If heads, your opponent's Active Pokémon is also Asleep.
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>>31845093
Maybe have the stadium give them a buff that neuters them if its kicked out like have the UB 90hp but stadium adds 50hp. Could be a fun meme to spread the damage on a few then bump the stadium to kill them all
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>>31845115

I love the intent, but this would be cancer in Expanded.
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>>31845115
Hypnotoxic laser but super buffed supporter version sounds like a pain in the ass
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>>31845147
Yeah, I could just imagine people playing it with Block Snorlax and Virbank and Hammers
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>>31844819
So.. codes?
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>>31845052
Buzzwole can be new shaymeme with "bulk up" - draw cards until you have 7, ability can't be used if ultra space stadium isn't in play
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For Ultra Beasts I'm thinking High Attack and Retreat Costs and the Stadium Ultra Space reduces that to a reasonable level? Or maybe some sort of special energy that they need?
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>>31845208
Just float stone/switch
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I'm so glad I went to the comic store again tonight. $37 after tax, all the sideways shit is from the 5 cent box.
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>>31845217
Well yeah, that helps with the retreat costs, but five energy per attack or something like that?
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Any opinions here on this Togedemaru meme deck? It looks fun!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHeFXhp4co as a reference
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>>31845208
yeah, i'm wondering how they work the z-energy in, I'm sure they will in some way. Lusamine could also be z-energy related.

I also want a tentacle lusamine card in FA, for reasons.
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>>31845246
Sorry i thought you meant high damage and the tradeofd was high retreat
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>>31845261
GX attacks are all over the place with their costs and their effects, making an energy for them would be too clunky to design
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>>31845297
I'm talking about the auras that totem pokemon, ultra beasts ingame, and lusamine's team have. totem pokemon in general would be interesting.
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>>31845250
why would you do this deck when you could run raikou and get almost as much damage per energy and also not have to discard your energies after using them?

and also raikou is way bulkier and still a one prize card.
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>>31845236
Seems pretty cool

Why is that Lightening energy so expensive?
Limited run?
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>>31845576
It's holographic. Hard to tell in the photo.
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>>31845576
Ex Holon phantoms holo energy. Looks sick in person, ive got a fire deck full
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>>31845576
Foil energy runs $2 and up depending on set.
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I prefer the ones with the pokemon on them, I want a playset of the lightning energies with ampharoses on them.
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>>31845629
That one didn't
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>>31845632
Call of legends is the set you want
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What should i do if i want to make a M Gallade EX deck?
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>>31845648
Make a real deck instead
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VBJ-DTVK-9WB-9TR
J6Q-MR7T-ZHQ-JYZ
YGN-QR2B-CDZ-MYY
Y2R-J7W6-BCW-MDQ
JRW-RQ4N-NPN-LTJ
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>>31845642
In the shop I bought it from, sure. But nearly everything in this picture is undervalued by a lot.

>>31845617
Best pic I can get to show it.
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>>31845648
eh, I could see it working with Espeon-GX but it's still gonna be a bad meme.
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>>31845671
I took the fourth code.

Here is the pull
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>>31845680
God damn wtf did it do to my pic?
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>>31845671
I took the third
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GDQ-PGV4-GYP-HQC

(Its an ETB Moon code. Coin, box, sleeves)
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>4 Primal Clash

fucking really
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When garb rotates will people just toss in alolan muk instead, or is it only affecting basics too restricted to see as much play as garb?
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>>31845825
According to the trading companies, that's between 1-2 roaring skies packs! I'm sorry.
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>>31845842
Depends on the meta. We don't know what it will look like in September 2018. I'm guessing there will still be Big Basic decks running around; if that's the case, evolution decks will splash a 2-2 A-Muk like just to even the playing field a bit.
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>>31845703
Was that your first S/M?
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>>31845886
No, it's just the first one I've opened. The others I have traded to work towards decks or am saving for SR UB. I have 2/4 so far.
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>Absol box reprinted
>no spirit linka dded in

Fucking why? It would be good with one, fuck.
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>>31845842

With Shaymin and Hoopa out of the format, the only relevant Basics left for Muk to block are Raikou (not that big a deal), Eevee (which will evolve t1, before Alolan Muk hits the field), Yveltal (which will see less play as the format shifts towards Pokemon-GX), and Volcanion-EX (the only true card threatened by Alolan Muk).

Tapu Lele will get nullified but that's another T1 mon usually. Tapu Koko will be annoyed by it.

That's about it, really (we won't know more until the rest of SM2 drops). It's not going to be nearly as omnipresent as Garbodor.
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>>31845919
This information is relevant as of February 2017. By the time Garbodor rotates next fall, we will have gotten seven SM sets (SM2 included). Given that all of the UB's (and Necrozma) are probably going to make it to print in these sets, it's a safe bet that there will be plenty more Big Basics coming.
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>>31845903
>saving for SR UB
It won't make you happy
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>>31845974
I know ;_;
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>that game 3 win by mill
Turbo Dark/Dragons 2 - 1 Turbo Dark for first place at Anaheim
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>>31845962
Sorry, just 6 sets actually.
SM2 (SP2017)
SM3 (SU2017)
SM4 (FA2017)
SM5 (WI2018)
SM6 (SP2018)
SM7 (SU2018)
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>>31845962

Fair point. I didn't read carefully enough.
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>>31845857
It's getting rotated this year though isnt it?
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>>31846044
It's certainly a possibility, but that would require rotating out 6 sets (PRC+DBC, ROS, AOR, BRT, BRP) leaving us with just 6 sets (FTC, STS, EVO, SM1, SM2, SM3). For that reason I believe it's unlikely, and I think they will rotate just PRC+DBC, ROS and AOR. We won't know for sure until July.
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>>31846074
>leaving us with just 6 sets
7, actually, I forgot GEN.
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>>31846000
Where do I go for coverage?
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>Blaze past my skill level/deck quality in ladder with Typhlosion
>Can't complete my daily challenges
Back to theme I go
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>>31845974
tfw 3/4 now

tfw i'm still not happy
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I was thinking, what if there was an absurdly powerful GX move but if you knock out a pokemon with it, your opponent gets to take 1 prize. Is it meta?
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how's a charizard deck right now?
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>>31846224
fuck off trippy
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>>31846235
why do you care?
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>>31846224
Make one and tell us
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>>31846242
BECAUSE YOU ARE HAPPY. FUCK OFF TRIPPY
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>>31846243
I have it off to the side, not completed but I can post it

>>31846245
Who said I was happy?
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when does roaring skies rotate out?
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>>31846272
Nobody knows. Probably September.
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>>31846272
Never, Shaymin will be legal until the sun dies
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>>31846272
Tomorrow. Sell your shaymins while you can
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>>31846242
you must be new here, this is an anonymous image board
you'll get used to it eventually
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>>31846221

An attack that is so busted that your opponent taking a prize card is how they balance it would probably be, well, busted.
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>>31846296
no, I do it cause I can. Why the fuck do you give a shit? I'm not hurting you. You're acting like a rage retard who thinks this board is meant for him. Now cont talking about pokemon or rage some place else. You're honestly pathetic if you think this place should stay the same over 15 years. BTW I've been on 4chan for over 8 years.

Now fuck off and enjoy the thread
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This is the full meme deck with a good win/played ratio that I've made, currently sitting at 25/33. Insta loss to anything good and healing decks crush it.
I made this deck to not buy the physical cards because I thought it would not be fun, but at least online it is fun
Sharing because I have nothing better to do.
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>>31846327
lol at this whole thread
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>>31846327
Kys famalam
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>>31846362
looks pretty janky desu dude

>>31846370
na, you can tho
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>>31846376

HAHA DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS
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>>31846395
k
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>>31846327
>Tells others to rage some place else
>Posts a paragraph of rage
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>>31846451
im not even mad. I'm telling the faggot off and trying to cont the thread.
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I like this new meme
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>>31846460
good for you anon. I'll make myself a trip code now
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>>31846458
>the faggot
>anyone but the tripfag
I can't say I'm not confused
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>>31846495
eh
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Hi, I would like some codes! I won't post the pulls, but I will gladly take them!

alakazamlmao(at)pokemail(dot)net
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>>31846608
aight I'll make a trip to make you stop.
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>>31846608
FYI guys, this isn't me
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>>31846641
Done. Now can you all stop pretending to be me?
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>>31846646
>>31846658
>can't hold a conversation about what the topic of the thread is more than 5 minutes
Wow you guys are pathetic
Don't worry tho, I'm working on a trip.
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>>31846658
Aaaand filtered
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>>31846658
Please dont just create a trip and claim you're the real me. Fuck off and get a life, kid
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Don't have a Charmander yet that's in standard but if I remember right the old set came back so

2 original Chameleons
charizard EX
Original Chaixard with energy burn
nor sure what set but Also another chaizard with recall and comustion blast
then I want to put Gardevoir in my deck too, what do yall think?
Maybe zapdos and jolteon EX?

asl for everything else, just filler cards with draw power and healing

Just a fuck around deck.
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>>31846737
Not me. I'm not stupid enough to think that a three type deck can work. I'm still working on getting my working decklist ready, and don't have a trip yet. Can you retards stop pretending to be me?
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Right, I don't know which of you losers is Alakazam, but to the real tripfriend, I want you to know that your vanity has derailed this entire thread, and I ask you to reconsider you're decision to use a tripcode
I hope that you can make the right choice
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>>31846764
scroll up to when I entered the thread, none of this was my fault, I asked about a charizard deck and 2 or 3 other faggots had to be retarded. This isn't my fault at all.
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>>31846780

>I used a trip for no reason
>other people called me out for being a faggot
>This isn't my fault at all.

top kek
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>>31846808
>come to thread
>Trying to talk about Pokemon the TCG
>what the thread is here for
>People lose their shit cause someone has a name
Wow, shows real maturity.
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>>31846780
That's not the real tripcode
Try harder next time
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>>31846832
ok
if you're that stupid
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>>31846827

>this much damage control
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>>31846862
might as well.
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>>31846850
Obviously I have no idea what that means or is since I've never used a trip
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>>31846827
/r/ptcgo might be more to your liking.
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>>31846876
Tripcode explorer is how you make trips. You can add random letter, characters and numbers into it but the generator makes it say something for you

>>31846888
fuck no.
Last night was fine. Then tonight some how some faggots have to derail the thread. Either talk about the damn thread or fuck off
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>>31846888
tfw I don't know whether this thread or /r/ptcgo is more dead.
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>>31846888
My user name was already claimed there
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>>31846900
Or don't trip like a fucking faggot? Not hard to understand. You derailed the thread by namefagging when it was completely unwarranted.
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>>31846922
>completely unwarranted
Actually I have very important things to say
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>>31846827
Shows how much of a newfag and/or crossboarder you are. Fuck off with your shitty deck ideas and lurk more
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>>31846922
faggot, literally scroll up, ctrl f, "How's a charizard deck right now"

I asked a simple question. I didn't do anything for this, I didn't come in here being an idiot. Other's wanted to like 12 year olds in school trying to pick at each other then that same kid picks back and says "You started it" you are literally doing that now.

>>31846944
no. why don't you make me faggot. I'm not a newfag for starters and why the fuck do you care so much? If you cared about this game at all you'd ignore everything being said and go back to what was being talked about. I'm not leaving. You're going to get over it like the adult I assume you are.

Or are you saying you're a manchild who can't grow up?
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>>31846955
>Or are you saying you're a manchild who can't grow up?
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>>31846965
hey, i did nothing to warrant shit here.
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>>31846974
You literally started it


Best thread since S/M released btw
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>>31846982
prove it, show me HOW I started it
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Hey this is my current pack count, do I have enough to build a Charizard / Gardevoir / Zapdos deck?
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>>31846992
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bait to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>31846992
>prove it, show me HOW I started it
>Alakazam !3abraFQdGw
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>>31847007
i was waiting on this copypasta

>>31847002
go for it anon
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>>31847015
>go for it anon
>anon
His name is Alakazam, idiot
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>>31847002
>newfag
>over 1000 packs just sitting around
Are you the fucker that runs the bots?
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>>31847014
literally means nothing.

>>31847028
ah you're right anon, my mistake.
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>>31847032
I don't run any bots. All my packs are redeemed, and none of them in storage are from here. (I post all redemptions from here, unlike some of the fags in here)
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What are some good tips on trading? I get that you buy low and sell high, but how do you do that when the public trading board is a nightmare? Do you just put out your shit deals and hope noobs accept? There has to be a better way.
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>>31847051
Why so many theme decks may I ask?

And why so many Generations? Were you looking for something
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>>31847078
Generations packs are (were) very easy to get, and I predicted they'd maintain their value simply because of their extraordinary EX pull rate. Holding onto this many, however, was a mistake, I admit.
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>>31847060
>I get that you buy low and sell high
the problem with this idea is that cards go in and out constantly. Any TCG for that matter. You can't possibly know what the next set will hold. I've seen cards in games go from 150 down to 5 bucks due to a tin coming out.

So it's really hard to say how long someone will want to keep it. This is why I don't do a lot of trading
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>>31847015
>i was waiting on this copypasta
If you know tripfagging is frowned upon, why do it aside from trying to derail a thread
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>>31847148
For the last god damn time anon, I didn't derail it.
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>>31844517
My friend gave me a rockruff code that I redeemed. What would you want if you're still here?
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>>31847099

So, what, just get the money cards from each set and constantly trade them? I see people asking for full art trainers for one pack all the time. People don't actually take those deals, do they? I can't imagine even new people would trade away their cool full art card for a single pack.
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>>31847157
Or what would you offer? Fuck me I'm retarded
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>>31847155
You literally did though for prancing around like a newfag. Kill yourself
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>>31847158
Some FA cards are legitimately worth a single pack.

www.ou7c4st.com/card-values.html

This is a good baseline to base trade values on. It's not as updated as the threads that it is based on, and obviously real time data trumps the trading co's rates.

You NEED to utilize this and other rates if you are not actively following prices.
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>>31847158
this is why I buy booster boxes then sell shit off.
The only downside is getting 1 shiny energy per box

>>31847172
I came in, asked a question, someone lost their shit. either get over it or cont raging and show your lack of maturity

>>31847178
what about TCG player?
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>>31847181
Fun fact: the TCG and TCGO have relatively similar pricing. If you are planning on trading physical goods, look first at that, then take into consideration how you think the card will stand in the future. Shaymin EX will maintain value on the TCGO because of of Expanded, but will likely become nearly worthless once it rotates out of standard IRL. I do not recommend getting into physical card trading unless you ARE a trading company and know good business practices.
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>>31847181
That happens every time someone name/tripfags incorrectly. If you werent a newfag you would know. Its how 4chan works. Take off the trip and use the site properly or fuck off back to where you cane from
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>>31847200
wait seriously? You can sell cards on the TCGO? I thought that was just a trading thing in general

>don't get into physical
No you should. It's more fun. I've played around 12 different games since I was 13 (25 now) and I can say the most stable games (to a degree) are Pokemon, yugioh and magic.

Friend of mine, when we played naruto, didn't buy a single card, he got all his cards by hustlin and shit. Dudes really smart but even then, it's just knowing a few key elements of tcgs in general.
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>>31847218
you sound like a whiny little 10 year old not getting his way.

get over it.

grow up
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>>31847220
You cannot sell cards on the TCGO. But you can trade them, and they have rough values. A card that sells for 40 Roaring Sky packs has the value of roughly 40 Roaring Sky codes, even online. In this way, the cards have a sort of one way value. You CAN buy online cards if you have money, but you can NOT sell them unless you are willing to get banned.
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>>31847220
This is not a blog
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>>31847235
ah yeah ok that makes sense.
This is why I buy the physical packs anyways. Might as well use the codes.
If I buy a digital pack it feels pointless, hearthstone is understandable when there's no physical copy of the game (cept in china)

>>31847251
you're right! It's not a blog! you get a gold star anon!
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>>31847200
Shaymin will not become worthless after rotation when every deck in Expanded will still need it. Drop in price? Sure. Worthless? No.
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>>31847259
It's much less expensive to build a deck in the online game, and much easier to find good testing online than with the physical cards. I doubt that anybody who plays the physical game competitively has not played extensively online.
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Nothing you can say will remove the stigma of you being a braindead newfag. Kill yourself
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>>31847265
Are you suggesting that Expanded is a meta that is played competitively with the physical cards? I was stating that the card's physical value will drop significantly. If so, I did not know that.
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>>31847266
more than likely. Going to card shops is fun tho. At least I get the satisfaction of socializing compared to the people with "social anxiety" and then pick on people online.

>>31847267
I see I can hold a conversation better than you at least.
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>>31847281
Regionals are sometimes Expanded. I believe League Cups can also be Expanded as well. But yeah cards like Jirachi EX and Computer Search are just as expensive now as they were when they were standard.
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>>31847283
This thread would have gone 100x better if you hadnt tripfagged. Keep that in mind moving forward
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>>31847314
>a hundred max
why do you care so much? It's honestly getting pathetic at this point.
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>>31847314
this is honestly the best thread we've had in a long time.

because it had plenty of shitposting that kept it alive.
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>>31842956
tauros and fucking espeon are what made lmao

>>31844900
We didnt get flare mons
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Can everyone show off their playmats? I want a new one and need some inspiration.
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>>31847816
I use this. This probably isn't any help, though.
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So thanks to Tapu Lele, does this mean Maxie/Archie become a relevant card again? Able to discard the supporter and combine with Shaymin/Oranguru draw support seems great.

also rate my deckbuild

3 Tapu Lele GX
2 Gallade
2 Tapu Koko GX
1 Tapu Koko
1 Jolteon EX
2 Shaymin
1 Oranguru

4 Ultra Ball
4 VS Seeker
3 Trainers' Mail
2 Choice Band
2 Fighting Fury Belt
2 Parallel City
4 Max Elixir
1 Super Rod

2 Sycamore
2 Lysandre
2 N
1 Hex
1 Ninja Boy
1 Kukui
1 Maxie's Hidden Ball Trick

8 Lightning
4 DCE

I'm working on a Yveltal Variant now.
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>>31847933
Empoleon and greninja are more relevant than gallade right now.
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>>31847281
You're not too fucking bright. Its a format actually played in several states in the US. Pretty lively here.

Also lol at this thread and the faggots who have nothing better to do than kick and scream over trips. This thread was fine for the past week and a half.
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>>31847933
Without Compressor, dumping your target Pokemon early is going to be an issue.
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>>31847816
I just ordered this from inked gaming.
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Will Yveltal EX survive rotation? I'm aware that it's only legal due to a weird tin promo reprint, but I have no idea what timeframe the tin came to exist

Darkrai EX also going to be in rotation afterward?

I guess an easier question is, what all will be remaining? What set(s) onward along with Sun and Moon when things change during september?
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>>31847060
>I get that you buy low and sell high
You can buy high and sell low and net gain money from tax rebates if you do it right.
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>>31848494
Probably PRC up to AOR at minimum
Maybe BKT as well
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>>31847816
Got it for free at the sneak peak of YGO Phantom Darkness in LA, been using it almost a decade.
Like fuck I'm paying for a fucking mousepad.
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New thread with correct subject

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>>31848584
>>31848584
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