THERE'S NOTHING TO DO IN THESE GAMES /vp/ THREE GAMES STRAIGHT

>>31826035
ORAS had enough content on its own to make up for the lack of post game. XY was the first game in a generation and was victim to the asset creation.
SM has no excuse.

>>31826035
WHY ARE YOU STILL BUYING THEM IF YOU DON'T LIKE THEM VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY YOU STUPID PLEB.

basically if there isn't a whole other game after you beat the game i'm not interested

>>31826143
did platinum and b2w2 make you spooge

>>31826118
CFW master race.

oras almost has a post game. it was pretty close

I give SM a bit of a pass since it was far more complete and thought out than X and Y was, and had the UB quest and the Battle Tree.

>>31826244
I do hope you're joking.

>>31826035
Still better than gens 5 and 6 for trying to be difficult at times.

>>31826151
This desu.

>>31826244
The maison was far better than the battle tree because the game had triples and rotations.
The UB quest just shows how much worse it was than XY because none of them had over world locations or anything for that matter. They were just normal encounters.

>post game meme

Kys

>>31826356
Want people to criticize the shitty story instead?

>>31826356
Name a game made in the modern age that has no postgame.

>>31826035
>THREE GAMES STRAIGHT WITH NO POSTGAME
Why are people saying ORAS has no post-game? It's pretty great actually.
>Delta Episode
>Filling out Lilycove Museum with paintings
>Getting a platinum flag into your Secret Base
>Visiting the bases of other people
>Conquering the Maison
>Exploring Mirage Spots and catching legendaries
In terms of quantity and variety, ORAS is pretty much near the top and has much better post-game than your average Pokemon game. Did you guys even play the games?

File: frog.jpg (11KB, 244x207px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 244x207px

>>31826419
>when someone is so wrong that you feel shame in their place

>>31826419
To be fair a lot of that is optional content that's accessible at any point as opposed to post game. Unfortunately there are people who don't count optional content as content just like there are people like this >>31826356 who think that post game is a ridiculous idea

>>31826162
Honestly it would be one of my favourites if it just had Frontier.

>>31826326
this.
UB Quest wasn't too bad for me, but it would have been perfect if they had specific locations that you can only get to in the post-game where you find them in the overworld and not just a shit-tier roaming thing

>>31826432
Whoa, you sure showed me with those hot arguments.

>>31826035
I got my 30 hours of main game plus 70+ hours of fooling around, i would say it has been worth my money.
Also fuck off

>>31826035
Idk, I'm enjoying the online battles.

>>31826151
You can't complain if you pirate, you fucking mong.

BRING BACK THE BATTLE FRONTIER!

>>31826459
>fetch quest that's worse than extra routes from BW and DP
>not even battle related
>dumb ass minigame that has nothing to do with pokemon
>refer to the above
>Battle Tower has existed since forever, not a plus for ORAS
>get a repeated Mirage Spot
>better come back tomorrow lol

>>31826516
Your post is literally ''not an argument'' - the post
>postgame isn't postgame if it's not as good as in older games/not a big enough thing for me/has existed before

>>31826516
So what you're saying is that content isn't content when it proves you wrong.

>>31826566
No, I'm saying that it's either low quality or stuff that most people doesn't care about.

>>31826035
if there were a way to filter "le boxart picture le this game sucks xdddd" threads, I would

>>31826576
So by your logic content isn't necessary at all because no one cares for anything but the main game.
Why don't you just stick with your sims?

>>31826395
uncharted.

>>31826516
You can completely invalidate the post-game in any Pokemon game by being retarded. Let's look at BW2 shall we, /vp/ loves BW2.

>Battle Subway
Battle Facilities have existed since forever, not a plus for BW2.
>White Treehollow / Black Tower
Refer to the above, also it's just another Battle Facility
>PWT
Refer to the above
>Join Avenue
Not even battle related
>Catching legendaries
Has been a thing since forever, not a plus for BW2
>Routes and town that were previously inaccessible
Literally just running through a couple of areas that we already saw in BW

I don't remember what else there was but so far it doesn't look very convincing. We can do this for every single Pokemon game if you'd like my le epic baiter friend.

>>31826595
Uncharted has unlocks and such fir beating the game try again.

Not just counting post game content, but just things you can do in general even after beating the game, nothing compares to B/W2. HG/SS comes close though.

>>31826597
Fuck off retard. If i don't like it, it doesn't count as postgame! You know how this board works.

>>31826035
I can't believe you're getting butthurt over fucking Pokémon.

>>31826597
At the very least, Black Tower/White Treehollow are one of THE best grinding areas in the series.

>>31826619
HGSS doesn't really amount to much if you go by that.

>>31826619
>nothing compares to B/W2
What's so special about these games again? It's been a while since I've played Gen V but I remember that I've dropped BW and BW2 pretty quickly after beating the Pokemon League. Battle facilities pre-Gen VI are a complete pain in the ass because IV breeding is practically impossible and EV training takes ages. Not only that but online and Dream World especially are dead so what exactly is there to do so much that /vp/ keeps praising these games to high heavens?

>>31826419
>Why are people saying ORAS has no post-game? It's pretty great actually.
>Delta Episode

Are you for fucking real? The delta episode is the worst slog I've ever played through in any pokémon game.

>Exploring Mirage Spots

How is exploring the dullest landscapes known to mankind entertaining? The mirage spots serve only one purpose, to save GF from hard work implementing actual decent (new) areas to catch the pokémon.

It's really a case of once you've explored one, you've explored them all.

>>31826597
>Refer to the above, also it's just another Battle Facility
>PWT

But that's wrong you retard. Play the actual game before you decide to just spout shit.

File: 1400793541936.jpg (30KB, 500x395px) Image search: [Google]

30KB, 500x395px

>>31826664
>Getting mad because of a post that was clearly ironic for the sake of pointing out how dumb the other guy's arguments were
Anon, I...

>>31826693
>Anon, I...
love you.

Why are you faggots complaining? S/M has the UB quest, Battle Royal, and the Battle Tree which is literally the Battle Tower. What exactly do you want a postgame to be like? Do you just want the Battle Frontier?

>>31826035
Can we all agree that HGSS had the best postgame?

>>31826799
-More Pokémon available so I can catch them all. SM has the least amount of Pokémon available since gen3 games.
-More locations filled with said Pokémon and to extend singleplayer quests
-Battle Frontier so there's something you're collecting and training your Pokémon for. Battle Tree is okay but gets old fast.

>>31826150
If that made him cum, I'd hate to see what HG/SS did to the poor man.

>>31826821
I prefer Platinum. Pokéradar and whole new Battle Island were more fun than rehashed Kanto with missing content everywhere. Close second though.

File: 1386016879187.png (75KB, 198x252px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 198x252px

>>31826469
>you keep complaining! Stop buying the games!
>you're not buying the games, you have no right to complain!

>>31826799
>Do you just want the Battle Frontier?

no

Most people agree BW2 had a great post game.

File: IMG_0221.png (104KB, 258x248px) Image search: [Google]

104KB, 258x248px

>>31826662
>dropped BW1/2 after the Pokemon League instead of seeing what the games had to offer afterwards
>needs to ask what's so great about their postgames

>>31826855
What exactly was there to do besides PWT, catching legends, and the N quest?

>>31826867
Yes, I dropped them quite quickly because I don't remember there being that much to do that I'd want to keep playing. I usually play through the White Treehollow and run through the "new" areas but that's pretty much it. I've done PWT in the past but I never want to experience Gen V breeding and EV training again.

>>31826884
black city/white forest dungeons.

>>31826854
Yes? I don't see a contradiction.

>>31826150
Yes. Yes It did

>>31826837
>red
>smaller battle frontier
I don't think he came even close

>>31826839
HGSS added pretty much all the cut content that GSC took out of Kanto (Seafoam Islands, Viridian Forest, Cerulean Cave, Kanto legendaries) and added the Hoenn legendaries too. Sure, it wasn't like a completely new adventure since your Pokemon were strong enough to steamroll most of the region but the same can be said for the post-game in every other game. And HGSS Kanto was a much larger area than any other post-game area. Not to mention it had Platinum's Battle Frontier as well.

The only people who would claim that HGSS Kanto is empty are people who have never played the game.

>>31826035
> ORAS
> no postgame
Yeah

File: wojak cry.jpg (68KB, 700x700px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 700x700px

>B2W2 are never coming back

>>31826035
Why does postgame matter so much? Most games don't have it, and if you didn't enjoy the main story, a postgame isn't going to somehow save the game for you magically. (Unless you're retarded)

>>31826035
stop complaining about Post-GAME you fucking idiots. There is a massive MAIN-game to play, so why care about something that isn't part of the story of the game itself????? And there is at least the Battle Tree, break every record in it, buy every rare item and then do something else in your free time you freak.

>>31827120
what the fuck? my cartridge works just fine

>>31827179
/vp/ only cares about quantity, not quality

>>31827189
Mine too, but it bothers me that the thoroughness and variety that those games had isn't persisting into future Pokemon games

>>31826035
>No postgame
>still have played 120+ more hours after beating the main game
wut

>>31826827
>SM has the least amount of Pokémon available since gen3 games.
Are you really sure?

File: IMG_2189.jpg (418KB, 2048x1153px) Image search: [Google]

418KB, 2048x1153px

>>31827269
RG
150/151, 99%

B
139/151, 92%

Y
137/151, 90%

GS
232/251, 92%

C
232/251, 92%

RS
200/386, 51%

FRLG
212/386, 54%

E
235/386, 60%

DP
432/493, 87%

PT
429/493, 87%

HGSS
427/493, 86%

BW
466/649, 71%

B2W2
482/649, 74%

XY
593/721, 82%

ORAS
477/721, 66%

SM
384/802, 47%

>>31826854
Stop complaining about shit you illegally got for free, you whiny fucking brat

>>31827202
these pussies are to blame themselves.
I bought Moon in December, played maybe 2-3 hours a week on it (luckily life has to offer more for me apart from playing Pokemon) and I'm still not done.
I don't use a guide, try to explore every area, catch every Pokemon in every area and raise not just 6 Pokemon, but as many as I can. Currently I have over 20 Pokemon that I constantly switch out.

There is no excuse for these whiners who sit down and rush through a game 4 days nonstop to finish it and then complain that there is nothing else to do. If you want a time captivating rpg, play Final Fantasy or something, or join a sports club, get a girlfriend/boyfriend, hang out with friends, study a language, whatever, just don't be the loser who rushes through a game just to complain that there is nothing else to do 3months after the initial release.

>>31826035
>nothing to do
But there is post game. There is plenty of post game, actually. Just because it isn't stuff YOU want to do doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Fuck off, retard. This shitposting is getting old. You can keep spamming shit like this but it will never suddenly become true.

Bet you're one of the same retards upset over no battle frontier

>>31827312
hahaha oh how embarassing

OP getting owned.

>>31827312
>XY
>593/721, 82%
>SM
>384/802, 47%
well, that's pretty embarrassing, ''best'' pokemon game has barely any pokemon.

>>31826035
>implying there is anyone left to defend this
/vp/'s dead as fuck rn

>>31827380
I did literally everything and it was less than ORAS

>>31827448
yeah and who said ORAS didn't have post game?

>>31826035
I have 313 hours in Pokemon SM already and I'm still not bored. There's plenty to do, and it's all FUN. Not just there for the sake of being there.

Also, just because you've placed the logos in a slightly different manner and changed the image name doesn't mean no one will recognize you. Fuck off already.

>>31827433
I caught all Pokemon over the course of BW2, XY and ORAS already. Why would anyone feel the need to do that again, especially with the Bank being available? There is already the National Dex in the bank.
People's arguments are laughable. Besides, most people probably don't even have the time to really catch all Pokemon there are - just you autists who do nothing but sitting at home and playing one single game.

>>31827544
>I caught all Pokemon over the course of BW2, XY and ORAS already. Why would anyone feel the need to do that again
Thi-

>Besides, most people probably don't even have the time to really catch all Pokemon there are
Really you nigger? Why end a logically sound post with such bullshit?

>>31826035
good thing i pirated this game :~)

>>31827574
Kek. Same here. Thank goodness hackers saved my ass because I was about to preorder this shitty game.

>>31827574
>>31827587
anonymous strikes again

>>31827448
>Did everything
What does that entail? I'm being serious since I actually want to squeeze out everything SM has. I thought that the Battle Tree didn't really have an end?

>>31827544
What the fuck did I just read? I don't even know how to respond to this. Bank or not, its subpar national dex aside, SM's lack of Pokemon is one of the things that makes people view the games as dull or empty as such. Even if it can be as simple as zipping them through Bank, some people might find it more fun to try catch them in-game again.

If you take Colosseum and XD into account, every non-event mon in Gen III is available throughout all of the games, as is Gen IV with DPPT and HGSS. It removes the need for transfer bullshit. People were iffy about BW because of the lack of Pokemon, and even with the DW and Dream Radar you still need to transfer to get every mon in a Gen V game.

File: wicke and faba.jpg (672KB, 1280x1835px) Image search: [Google]

672KB, 1280x1835px

>>31826035
I dunno, I'm still enjoying it.
Sorry that you don't like it I guess? Idk.

File: 1486009939202.jpg (74KB, 753x733px) Image search: [Google]

74KB, 753x733px

>>31827330
>moralcuck mad that he wasted money on this pos

It's not my problem that you haven't learned your lesson in gen 6.

>>31827570
Don't see what's the problem with my argument here, apart from using the word autist. That wasn't very nice. Sorry for that. Very childish from me.

I meant to say that the majority of Pokemon players never finished the National dex, apart from Gen 1 and 2 maybe. With the introduction of more and more Pokemon, catching every single one of them became a tedious affair. Game Freak realised that and put the National Dex on the Bank, which is easily accessible, gives them extra Dollars and people who really want to finish the National Dex can do so with access to a plethora of different Pokemon versions and store them all on one server, without having to catch them twice or even more times.
Most players welcomed the smaller dex, because it seems doable to catch all Pokemon. But let's not kid ourselves, the majority will focus on their generation's favourite 10-20 and that's it.

>>31827763
All it takes is to add some waifus for you fags to enjoy video games.

You're the reason that the industry is so shitty today.

>>31827786
Quite literally every game has waifus. Every Pokemon and non-Pokemon game. SM isn't any special in that regard. In fact, it doesn't even compare to ORAS in terms of waifus.

>>31827784
That's not the problem here. Just because 70% don't complete Pokedex taking away what the other 30% liked is not a good thing, in any scenario. That's like saying just because majority like Charizard, they should completely ignore Venusaur and Blastoise.

>>31827780
You have no right to complain about something you got for free, out of choice
And without the consent of the owner, no less
Have fun playing online

>>31827786
You just better hope that it doesn't ever become as bad as it is in the Fire Emblem community.

>>31827784
Like >>31827825 said, it might be better to let the optional stuff remain instead of just removing it. Let people catch fucktons of Pokemon in a game if they want to, AND give them the option to import them from older games if they don't want to do that. These sorts of removals are one of the things that GF riles up the series' fans with.

>>31826035
There IS postgame.
>Guzma battle
>Battle Tree
>Collecting mons
>Training mons
>Eevee quest
>Defending title
>Level uping Pelago
>UB quest
>Looking for Zygarde
Searching for Zstones, TMs...

File: 1446257698986.png (70KB, 350x333px) Image search: [Google]

70KB, 350x333px

>>31827834
Boy I talk about whatever the fuck I want.

Your desperate attempts to shut down criticism of your precious game is hilarious, though.

>Have fun playing online
Not even the meta in this gen is redeemable.

>>31827951
>proceeds to post a list where 80% of it are things that exists in every single game of the franchise since gen 2

How it feels to be this dumb?

It seems like Game Freak's train of thought is if they see that some people don't particularly care for a certain optional feature, they will remove or diminish it even if there are lots of people that DO like and/or frequently use it. It also means less effort for them, and in their own skewed way keeps the older games interestly unique, acting as another enticer.

>>31827989
But thats still a POST GAME

File: 01.jpg (37KB, 458x720px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 458x720px

>>31826035
SUMO is shit.

>>31827989
>postgame isn't postgame if it's not new
This just in: There hasn't been a maingame since the first entries

File: 1487177922075.png (164KB, 500x324px) Image search: [Google]

164KB, 500x324px

>>31828081
>grinding pokemon to level 100 is content

>>31828191
ye?

>>31828255
No, it isn't. Unlike ORAS SM does not even have good place to do such.

>>31828291
ah, if you say so, that changes everything of course

Postgame is dead, casuals killed it. Plebs don't want half of the game to be after the E4

>>31828329
The highest level rematchable trainers don't even reach 70. Plus, there's the EXP scaling system, one Lucky Egg per file and no O-Powers and rematchable trainers with Audino or the Happiny line.

>>31826419
>Why are people saying ORAS has no post-game?
Because they don't like what's there, so therefore there's no postgame.

>>31828343
So basically >>31827991 is the unfortunate truth until we get new devs with a different mindset?

I'm surprised no one's posted that image with all the checklist of all the shit to do after credits. Don't have it myself, would post otherwise.

Unless you have all 3 battle tree stamps you cannot post a complaint below this line without an image proving such

________________

>>31827330
But he bought the console you fucking retard

>>31828589
valid points: 0

>>31828589
>>31828776
It doesn't matters. You don't have to buy shit to complain about it.

>>31827353
get out normie

>>31829045
Uh, yeah you do? I don't go around stealing food and then complaining that it tastes like shit.

File: Sad_Love_and_Melo.jpg (27KB, 640x360px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 640x360px

>>31826597
>dismisses Subway, Treehollow, Tower, and PWT for all being battle facilities
>dismisses Join Avenue because it's not a battle facility

what did he mean by this?

>>31829242
oh wait he was being retarded on purpose. ignore me

Lack of postgame would be perfectly acceptable if the main games were actually good. It's just turned into a friend simulator.

>>31829262
so what do you want, some edgelord ''kill everybody'' scenario or

>>31829281
No. I just want the option to not have to talk to my "friends" ever 10 steps and I want them to stop blocking paths. You can even keep them in as optional dialogue if that's your thing. Just don't force it on everyone else. It's an adventure, not a rail shootet. Let me do my thing.

>>31829281
What about exploring, collecting pokemon, items, doing side quests, training pokemon...?

jk lol who wants that in a pokemon game

>>31829347
i'm pretty sure i had all 5 in this game, but yeah

>>31829406
Yeah man exploring those corridors before Lillie interrupted me was really fun.

>>31829572
Yeah, I explored Alola, a new region. Your point?

>>31829582
You know that being obtuse isn't an argument, right?

>3 games

Wait why are we including ORAS?

>>31829701
SM fans are annoying as SM haters.

or maybe SM haters are annoying as SM fans.

>>31829701
You know that exploration doesn't only mean deviating from the set route to some fuckass cave that has nothing in it?

>>31826597
>it doesn't count because my ass say it
That' what I'm read.

Pokemon's post game has always been the same stuff, you were just younger and were able to appreciate smaller things more

>>31829896
Yet most of us have no problem replaying older games with more and better content.

Is that nostalgia too?

>>31829952
>most of us
Speak for your fucking self.

>>31829971
There's been a bunch of polls on /vp/ where games like HGSS ranks high (or even the highest).

Still, if all you can say is that, I doubt you're even old enough to have nostalgia for anything.

>>31830007
how does that relate to replaying older games? i for one can't fucking tolerate the speed of 4th gen but still find hgss to be really good

>>31827786
>implying
That's my only picture of SM characters, and Faba is certainly not a waifu.
I play for the new pokemon. If you want to complain about waifus, feel free, but don't force your shitty view of those idiots on me.

>>31830007
Oh yeah, those fucking polls. I remember voting HGSS in them too. Doesn't mean I go back to play it a lot, because it's fucking boring. It was fun the first time around. Going back after playing even Gen 6 is painful, because of the shit graphics and lack of types and whatnot.
Also, SM was pretty fucking high in those polls too. Does that mean it's good?

>>31826035
Meh, breeding is all I enjoy doing postgame anyway, and sm made it quite easier

Also battle tree is cool

>>31830064
Faba is a husbando, idiot. Fags deserve waifus too.

>>31826151
Don't download it then, go talk to people or sth

>>31826285
XY was a piece of shit, no jokes here

Both games lack postgame but at least the actual game was better

>>31830098
But that's fucking wrong, you faggot. Tree is just a tower clone and breeding as been in every game. SM postgame is shit.

>>31830102
Well he aint mine. Also would anyone actually find that little weasly goblin attractive?

>>3182636
By far the best one yet.
They're all shitty anyways but this one id slightly better

>>31826419
>visiting other's peoples bases

Bruh.

>>31830145
>Tree is just a tower clone and breeding as been in every game.
...so? tree is a good tower clone, and breeding is easier than ever

>>31826627
It doesn't really, it isn't just people not liking em

>>31830196
It's the same fucking shit. Just easier doesn't excuse lack of other things to do.
And no, Tree is a shit clone.

>>31830107
If you're this scared of opinions maybe reading online boards isn't a good idea.

>>31830216
yes, and?

Gen wars persist only because of GF's incompetence at keeping improvements from one game into the next, like the touchscreen of HGSS having multiple uses, toggling running to be always on, Platinum and FRLG's VS Seeker being thrown away forever even though it made grinding EXP and money very easy, Audino EXP grind being thrown away on XY even though they existed in those games, Horde battles for EV(though I guess competitive battles aren't high on their priorities), etc.

>tfw no game with controllable hordes, high level Audino/Blissey grinding, VS Seeker, toggle-able running, gen 6 online communications and move reminders that doesn't ask for fucking heart scales

Fuck Gamefreak.

>>31830145
I didn't say it wasn't you stupid fuck, I said I don't give a shit, pokemon's postgame has been trash since like gen 2

File: 1481932805705.png (120KB, 800x768px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 800x768px

>>31830077
>literally missing 1 type
>lack of types

>shit graphics
>same graphics as the next gen

You're lucky I can't find any bait pics in my folder

>>31830229
>scared
tfw not getting butthurt over a lack of something in a game is being scared

File: tumblr_od8r4me8Z91r2eyrho1_500.png (299KB, 500x707px) Image search: [Google]

299KB, 500x707px

>>31830158
Some people are exclusively attracted to greasy little goblins.

>>31830247
You're so butthurt that you can't even use basic logic and realize that there's no way to know if you'll like a game if you don't play it.

>>31830234
Imagine if they brought back HM's in Gen 8

>>31830359
Well I stand corrected then.

>there will never be a pokemon game with 2 or more complete regions

File: 1483244684308.png (148KB, 780x675px) Image search: [Google]

148KB, 780x675px

>>31830458
Don't even joke about it.

>>31830478
also

>there will never be a pokemon game where the gameplay goes up to level 100

>first game that I drop so soon
This legitimately makes me feel sad. I try to play it, but just can't get into SM after I completed it. Usually I can get between 300-900 hours per file.
Anyone else got this feeling?

File: 1472103690221.jpg (175KB, 777x588px) Image search: [Google]

175KB, 777x588px

>it hasn't been possible to have a multi-battle over wifi in the battle tower clones since gen 4
I'd really like to see what excuses Game Freak apologists come up with for this one.

>>31830540

Come on man. I don't even play Sun that much and I got about 600 hours in.

>>31829780
That's precisely what exploration is. What happened in SM was a tour

>>31830234
Audino training could be done by fighting furisode girls in the chateau, it only required a little bit of walking around rooms to find one.

What pisses me of about SM is that they had the chance to put a trainer with a happiny/Blissey in the battle buffet and they didn't do it, also being named buffet king should give you access to the buffet at all times.

>>31826064
...SM is its own generation.

>>31827867
You and >>31827825 act as if there was no National Dex at all. There is!!! Check Pokemon BANK. Everybody can fill the whole dex. If you fill it once, delete all the Pokemon that are available and start over again, if you want to do it all over again, but giving the majority the feeling of never really being able to finish a game just because they don't want to catch all 802 Pokemon is the worse thing here.

>>31831071
...I'm pretty sure this is bait.

Can Bank's Natdex even be reset?

>>31830234
That's nonsense. You act as if no one would ever have anything to complain about Dragon Quest VIII , because it continuously improved over V and there would no one ever preferring V over VIII. GF changes the games just enough to make them distinguishable from each other. This includes scrapping certain features, whether they were successful or not. Ever since Gen IV we had each time a complete new online trading/battling platform and it changed constantly. Just because you were satisfied with one specifically doesn't mean that this is the one they'll stick to forever, then they could just release the same game over and over and patch it until people stop playing, because it never evolves.
So either embrace the change, stick to the old game or fuck off and play some other game. Your criticism on a board full of lowlifes and waifu loving scum is not going to change a thing. GF probably won't ever read this piece of shit here.
They don't rely on your dollars. There are still millions of people buying their games, so it can't be all that bad eh. Enough people seem to enjoy it.

>>31831100
even if not, you filled it, what's the problem? Why fill it again?
Some people act as if it was their life's purpose to fill national dexes from generation to generation and if they can't do that they'll freak out. Holy mother of god...

>>31831211
Because some people might find it fun to catch them all over again?

Masuda said in an interview people dont play postgame and hard games

>>31831065
And had less than XY with less work required.

>>31831229
Thats the reason he didnt incluide the battle frontier

>>31831229
Which is why Pokemon has not got a hopeful future as long as the majority of Game Freak are in the equation.

>>31831211
>people shouldn't care about catching or training monsters in a game about catching and training monsters
that's like saying metal gear or splinter cell are not about stealth despite those games being stealth games.

I enjoyed the UB hunting as a post game bonus. The best post games are the ones that give you cool new pokemon to catch.

File: ...FUCK.gif (979KB, 400x316px) Image search: [Google]

979KB, 400x316px

>>31826419
>downloaded a .cia of Meme Sapphire rather than bothering with Alpha Sapphire
>it was so hard that I quit after Roxanne
>missed out on all this

>>31830785
and a tour somehow isn't exploration?

>>31831229
>Madusa
Could we get someone that actually makes postgame in their games?

>>31831339
Or somebody who tries to update their current games to add things? Fucking Animal Crossing of all things does it.

>>31831277
You are implying.
I actually said that if you fill the National Dex once it's unnecessary to fill it again, just because the Game is called Moon, instead of X.
Because most people simply don't is why they moved the ND feature to the bank and left the regional dex in the main game, because that's easily achievable, even for newcomers and GF mainly caters to these people, as is shown by the introduction of a new start of the Pokemon series after every season. You return to play another game? Cool; but the more important customers are the young kids who play it for the first time. Why scare them with a dex of 802 Pokemon they can perhaps never complete?

You know, there is a thing called market research and GF found out that the regular Joe of Pokemon players usually sticks around for 2 games, so they have to cater to a new audience for every generation. These few thousand people here on VC are cool (or not so cool), but most people move on to more adult-ish games once they reach a certain age and won't play Pokemon anymore. So what's left for GF? Focussing on the new kids.

>>31831100
>Can Bank's Natdex even be reset?
just why when it'll fill back up right away

>>31831308
Of course not its a fucking guided tour

>>31831531
of course it is, dumbass. You still explore a place and experience the place for the first time, even if someone guides you.

Ughh... why are people just so dumb. No wonder the US has constantly close to 50% of the people voting for some idiotic dickhead.

>>31830605
>600 hours
>I don't play it that much.

Nigger what the fuck constitutes to playing it much to you?

>>31831768
When did this guy say he was from the U.S.?

>>31831863
The best part is that I'm not.
That and he has no idea what separates a tour and exploration.

>>31831301
What was it like?

>>31832014
grow up and look up the word "exploration". Exploration doesn't exclude being guided by someone, or you could never explore a place together with friends.

>>31832206
How do I put this simply so you can understand.
Sun and Moon is a tour bus across the aloha region and there are points of interest across the region that you may want to look at but you can't get off the bus to do so until they say so, that our the place just doesn't exist.

Anyway, are you starting to get it at least a bit now?

>>31832206
>telling someone to grow up when you think the only country is America
And do you only take things literally? Wake up, the world doesn't work like that and exploration in video games is not the same as the literal definition.

>>31826035
>2017
>still playing pokemon
The series is over fags. Get over it.

>>31826244
SM feels like a game that was well planned but they ran out of time to make the game. They had lots of good ideas like the UB and such, but they weren't able to implement them, either because the underestimated their time constraints or overevaluated the skills of their dev team.

>>31832206
Maybe it's still technically "exploration", idgaf about the semantics, but it makes for some fucking boring exploration.

>>31832526
This.
You can literally trace back the entire guided tour in hawaii that the dev team took when their were getting inspiration for a game.
It's bullshit. Pokemon games shouldn't feel like you're on a guided tour.

>>31829582
You explored a theme park. That's what Alola is.

>>31832526
It's still fucking exploration you retarded mong. I don't get why do you have the urge to visit some fuckass cave when you can do it later whenever.

>>31832749
eksdee.

>>31832770
Just compare something like Unova, Hoenn or Sinnoh to Alola anon.
At this point your denial is just getting pathetic.

>>31832823
Why should I compare an island region to some land region?

>>31832864
Okay then compare Hoenn to Alola.
Both tropical island regions although one achieves exploration better.

>>31832645
This post hurts because its pretty much true

>>31832920
Hoenn is a fuckhuge chunk, not a group of smaller islands.

>>31832991
So just because it's not in four parts that doesn't make it an island.
You're not too smart are you.

In any case you're just trying to avoid making the comparison because you know how bad Alola is in comparison.

>>31833028
Then let's make the comparison and use the islands that they are based on, Kyushu and Hawaii.
Which one is smaller? Oh wait.

>>31833169
You do realise we're talking about a video game here, right?
Not to mention that the scale of the region is never 1:1. Try again and with the actual regions this time.

>>31833270
Yes, we indeed are. What's your point?
Also of course it isn't exactly 1:1 but gives a good hint of things. After all, they're based on them.

>>31833288
>but gives a good hint of things
If by a good hint you mean the outline of the region as opposed to the geography in it, then yes. In any case you are still avoiding the truth here.

>>31833388
and what makes you think the only thing in common is the outline?

>>31826035

>What's wifi battling

>>31833507
Something that lost worth when it was introduced.

>>31833471
You've never played a Pokemon game have you.

File: 1445377683271.png (39KB, 298x300px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 298x300px

>>31833471
>still can't admit Alola had fuck all for exploration
This is just sad dude.

>>31826469
>>31827330
>>31826162
>Don't buy it if you don't like it!
>You're not allowed to have an opinion on it if you didn't like it!
Desperate SM shills, everyone.

>>31833570
>>31833583
Not arguments, but nice tries though.

>>31833623
Meant for >>31830107 not >>31826162

>>31833623
no, you're not allowed to complain if you don't buy the game
reading comprehension, retard

>>31833683
So you're saying complaints are not a way to voice your opinion on something. Don't ask for reading comprehension if you don't even make sense yourself, autistic manchild.

File: 1485958839209.jpg (22KB, 215x226px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 215x226px

>Shit Pokémon distribution
>No additional places to explore
>No post game
>Yet another dumb battle facility that uses RNG and cheats
>Less than 100 new Pokémon introduced, a lot of them are legendaries
>Scrapped features
>Removed good features from the last generation
>Hyper training
>Grinding is incredibly difficult (I inject anyway)
>No trainer rematches
>Lillie is the main character, not you
>Megas discontinued
>Approximately half of all mega stones are missing
>No national dex
>PokeFinder's final upgrade requires grinding
>Signature Pokeballs very limited unless injected
>Frame rate issues
>Removed triple and rotation battles
>Waifufag pandering
>Genwun pandering
>Majority of Pokémon have a base speed of under 100
>Pokebank support came late

Anything I missed?

>>31826035
You have no right to complain until you can check off absolutely everything in these lists:
http://technophonix.tumblr.com/post/154848168983/pokemon-sun-moon-post-elite-four-checklist
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-tHjrRiV9KhNL-P3IkiXCsuZ_1_wXikdzaK4YBt9MBg/edit#gid=0

>>31833768
Oh and I forgot the rotom dex and Festival Plaza

>>31833760
No, I'm saying you're not in a position to complain if you're not even a customer.
Fucking end yourself if your reading comprehension is that fucking shit, holy fuck.

>>31833772
A lot of those things overlap, and you don't even need to do the island scan because of Pokebank.

File: received_1559967944019356.jpg (76KB, 610x960px) Image search: [Google]

76KB, 610x960px

It had a lot of stuff I liked and I really enjoyed the games, but there's even less post game stuff than oras or xy and I was really upset by that. I still like the games though, just wish there was more to them at the end. Hopefully everything is more fleshed out in starz or whatever they have next

>>31833772
That's not a lot you know. The brunt of it can be done during the main story in about 25 to 50 hours depending on the player.

>>31833790
How so? Anyone who played the game is in a position to complain, explain how the opposite is valid at all. Holy fuck SM shills on damage control this badly is hilarious kek.

>>31833820
>That's not a lot you know.
But have you done it yet?

>>31833805
>A lot of those things overlap
The first link is a more general overview, while the spreadsheet tells you all sub-events you might've missed during the main story. Yeah, some things overlap, but you've probably not completed it yet, and yet you're here complaining about there being nothing to do.

>>31833870
>But have you done it yet?
How do you think I know it's not a lot.

>>31833808
do u have the other pics from this? theres a guzma one too iirc

>>31826035
Instead of moaning, have you ever stopped and thought "maybe I've grown out of Pokemon?"

We're never going to get the game we want. Gamefreak thinks that post game, battle frontier, and difficulty modes are pointless because not everyone will play it. They also keep doing stupid shit like not updating XY to have new megas, and not having all the mega stones accessible in Gen 7. Without a major shakeup in design philosophy, Pokemon is going to be "okay' at best for a while.

>>31829788
Isn't that what people say about ORAS?

>>31831229
Ironically, his first point is correct.
The major casual audience does not continue far after the main story. While people on this board obviously want a long and rewarding postgame, casual players simply just beat the main plot and then put the game down, since they've "beaten" it.

>>31826799
A second region to explore/go back 2.
The only games have some plot past the first champion fight are Johto, FRLG, and Sinnoh.
Something in the Sevii Islands style post game would be great.

>>31833772
God damn I didn't play sun and moon, but this all just looks boring and tedious as fuck. Is there at least some kind of quest for each legendary or is it like in oras where they're just there without any semblance of a dungeon?

>>31826799
Ultra Beasts were just a glorified fetch quest.
Battle royal is a cool concept in theory but not actually very fun to play,
Battle tree is just the battle maison with a new look.

there is the whole main game to do

>>31826035

>b-b-but Battle Tree
>b-b-but shitty Battle Royale that removed Triple and Rotation battles
>b-b-but Festival Plaza thats an inferior PSS and inferior Join Avenue
>b-b-but shitty unbalanced ruined Battle Spot because Gamefreak only cares about VGC!
>b-b-but Poke Picture which is a shitty Pokemon Snap that serves literally zero purpose

Y-y-yur just a dum Johtoddler/Hoennfant/Sinnohfetus/Uvovabortion/Kalosperm! SM has enough things t-t-to do!

>>31827312
A bit harsh on gen 3 for no reason. It wasn't perfect, but it brought some cool stuff to the series too. I'd give Emerald around an 85%
HGSS should be around 92%. And switch XY and BW2's scores.

>>31834451
Why replying to yourself OP? Years with daily shitpost threads and you still fail to Shill. They should fire you girl

>>31834357
>Is there at least some kind of quest for each legendary or is it like in oras where they're just there without any semblance of a dungeon?
The latter but worse. The only legend to get their own rooms and such are the Tapu and main duo.
The UBs and Necrozma are just found randomly on the map like any other encounter.
Type Null is literally just handed to you.

>>31826118
>>31826356
>>31826463
>>31827149
>>31827179
>>31833772

Gamefreak apolgists are the worst. worse than a Blizzdrone and a Valvedrone combined.

>>31834541

>SM ARE DA BEST GAMES EVA, YOU MUST BE SAMEFAGGING IF YOU CRITICIZE THEM!

how pathetic.

>>31834419

which only takes "long" to do because you're interrupeted every other step for exposition.

>>31834647
SM apologists tend to "forget" how short SM actually is.

File: 1487397478451.png (75KB, 223x157px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 223x157px

>>31834507
Are you dyslexic, illiterate or just retarded?

>>31834070
This. Gamefreak has adopted a one step forward, two steps back mentality since gen 5.

>>31834791
>two steps back mentality since gen 4.
ftfy

>>31832044
Gym Leaders have more mons, higher level, no Exp. Share, and (reportedly) leaders/trainers mons are IV/EV trained.

I don't mind the IV/EV training on them but it's bullshit that you have the same resources for doing so that you would have normally. At least give me some way to IV/EV grind so I can be on equal footing with them.

Some might like the challenge. I got pretty tired of it after the 3rd gym and kinda just put it down. I wouldn't say 'dropped' since I'm intending to pick it up again Someday, but I doubt that I ever actually will.

>>31834864
>At least give me some way to IV/EV grind so I can be on equal footing with them.
Like the Dexnav and Super Training?

>>31834819

>two steps back mentality since gen 3.
ftfy

>>31834915
I played through a few months ago so I don't really remember, but do you have those right off or do you have to unlock them?

I might've also been put off by not wanting to IV/EV grind mons that I wasn't planning to use on my final team.

>>31834938
I think it's as soon as you get your mon.

>>31834934
If you counted the gen 2 gimmicks as progress

>>31835001
And even then, most of GSC's things were back by Emerald and DPPT. Gen V is when the lost features thing started becoming worse.

>>31834934
The physical-special split was one of the best introduced features.

>>31835029
Yeah but they fucked up contests, bases, the frontier and over all game progression.
If you want to count HGSS there's the safari zone too.

>>31834629
>>31834613
Lol girl youre too desperate to shitpost. check the timing to make it less obvious.

3 years straight of daily shill threads and you still couldnt shill a single person. I think they only keep your job for your daily dedication, like during your failed ORAS hate spams

>>31835051
>contests
God, I miss the Gen 3 contests.

>>31835079
At least we had the good mechanics back in ORAS.
All we needed was online and it would have been perfect.

>>31835015
Gen 5 didn't really remove anything that wasn't already ruined in gen 4.

File: cry.jpg (9KB, 225x225px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 225x225px

>>31835103
>At least we had the good mechanics back in ORAS.
>skipped oras

>>31835136
The only real problems with ORAS' contests were the altering of the move combos, several moves' categories and the removal of berry blending.

>>31835078

>s-s-s-samefag!

absolutely pitiful.

>>31826035
I know you are desperate to reach bump limit and satisty your autistic convulsion, so here's my deal: I help you out and you post your tits in exchange. I accept your pussy pics too

>>31835078
Notice how op doesn't deny to you its samefag when replying back, just acts triggered instead: >>31835197

That's a trick we use on criminals, OP admitted it samefagged the entire thread, the poster count is also proof.

>>31835387
We all know it's samefag anon, shill-chan has been doing those daily threads for 3 whole years straight, you can identify by the OP pics and how obvious it samefags and never played a single pokemon game.

OP was a /v/ shill before but it's here since ORAS as Zach is enabling the cunt.

>>31835387

retard: you gotta ask for timestamp, otherwise, shill-chan can just find some random attention whore pics.

>>31835387


>all Alolasomes can do when people rightfully criticize there game is to scream about samefag, and not actually refute the points.

>>31835197
C'mon OP, you know you for how long now? Most posts are either your samefag, anons trolling you and 2/3 newfags.

you wasted your life shitposting here and couldn't convince a single person, not even the 10 years olds who came after Go, my /tv/ lad would eat them right in, you can't compare :^).

>>31835422
>aww shit he found out my shill
>b-b-better consolewars instead to save face

this fagget >>31835364 is asking your tits. Are you gonna deliver shill-chan? If you do I help you out too.

>>31835471
>>31835453

>he thinks I'm OP because in his deluded mind he believes only one person can criticize SM

loving every laugh

The fuck is going on here?

>ITT: OP's paid shill thread v 3.0 SunMoon edition, number 214.

>>31835489

buttmad Alolasome accusing everyone of being OP because he can't handle the fact that SM was just barely better than XY.

>>31835485
>aww shit they found out my shill
>b-b-better consolewars instead to save face again

Think of your parents and how you could support them with the wasted time OP.

>>31835515
Hold up, but what is he shilling if he's hating on SM?

>>31835489
OP is an old shitposter (one of those autist oneslike Bui) and some raid is getting to trigger him again I think. It happens from time to tme.

It shifted the competitive meta, thats all I really care about, like the game was fun, but It's hard to replay when you have 20 cutscenes trying to smack you with their collective dicks

>>31826035
if you really need more game to play, your only option is replay or buy yokai watch. many people find the second option hard to do.

>>31835501

So it's the best second in the series? Because everyone I know always agreed XY was the best games ever made to pokemon main series (I disagree, I think it's ORAS).

C'mon everybody! OP gona give us her Tits and pussy pics if we reach bump limit. Gotta go there!

BUMP!

>>31835078
>youre too desperate to shitpost. check the timing to make it less obvious.

It's how you know OP is getting butthurt, the loss of the control in samefagging.

>>31835197

OP, is it true that Zach tried to hit on you when the date site failed? I heard it through the jani grapevine.

>>31835540
Those options aren't viable.
Because of the incessant cutscenes in SM it has no replay value because of how tedious it is. Not to mention the competition only Megastones.

Yokai Watch is just a horrendous game.

>>31835527

shill is not only pro-product. For example, we had proof that Sony would shill agains the xbone all the time back at /v/ some years ago, it's an old black market strategy. And OP is a known case for some years here

>>31835540

Yokai Watch is underrated, it's worthless to "compete" but the game itself is a good follow-up.

>>31835570
That's not how you convince nor break down an attention whore. Let me show you newfags how it's done:

>>31834613
>>31834629
>>31834657
>>31826035
>>31826432

Tits or GTFO.

>>31835632
Dude, shill by definition is pro-product because the act of shilling is deceiving potential customers into buying your or someone else's trash.
You can't have a shill who's being negative about the product or they aren't shilling it.

>we had proof that Sony would shill agains the xbone all the time back at /v/ some years ago
Yeah I know but that's still not shilling. That's basically just shitposting.

>>31826118

They're going to sell regardless. One voice doesn't matter.

Also I didnt buy Moon, my girlfriend bought it for me.

>no trainer rematches
>no trainers that break the lvl. 70 barrier
>no roaming legendaries

>>31831195
Man how the fuck do people like you function with so much cock in your mouth. Un fucking real.

>>31836320

His argument is literally

> things are different so it doesnt matter if they suck
> they'll sell no matter what so criticisms shouldn't be expressed

>>31831195
A complaint about the user experience deteriorating over time in a series instead of improving is a real complaint.
My issue with the online isn't that it changed, it's that it was made worse, if they must paint a new coat of paint that won't improve on anything, change the UI, not the UX. The wonder trade for example, was made much clunkier than it was in gen 6, where once you went online, you had everything in a menu one touch of the stylus away, on SM you have to navigate multiple menus, every time you want to do a wonder trade, and you have to go into that stupid plaza.
I know it sounds petty, but I studied this shit, someone at Gamefreak has studied this shit and they must have known that the least amount of menus a person has to navigate, the better, and once they show that they know they can do good, having them take a step back is annoying.

Would you be fine if suddenly, the usual trip to a Pokemon Center wasn't "Enter, walk to nurse, press A until done", but instead "Enter, walk around some stupid NPC standing in the middle of the area, press a to talk to nurse, 0.5 second change to a window where you select which pokemon in your party to have healed, followed by a 'are you sure' option where the default is 'no', and then finally have your healing started" just because "they don't change stuff for you"?

>>31836320
>>31836547
I probably put more time into it than I should but I studied this crap so it's hard not to overdo it.

>>31830376
Not 7 years ago maybe, now you have reviews and gameplays

>>31837712
>knowing if you'll like a game by reading paid reviews and watching other people play the game
This is insane.

>>31836585
Unfortunately, Game Freak's idiocy outweighs the smarts they have.

>>31834177
>2nd Region
Unless they do it right, I don't want to see another GSC situation with watered-down weak-ass region's. Just give me one good region, please.

>>31833768
Lillie is one the worst parts of this game. Because of her popularity we will now never hear the end of her and she will most likely get shoved into just about everything. Another autistic fan base for a shit character. She'll be the Lucina/Rosalina of the Pokemon fan base.

>>31833980
You can't really say that when Sun & Moon has taken away so much.

>>31834070
Game Freak wants to force people to buy the new games for the new megas. It's pretty much the same mindset as to why we still have only one save file on every mainline Pokemon game.

>>31834507
I think you replied to the wrong post.

>>31836585
That's a good point for once in this thread. Not too many mentioned, but I think we can all agree that the positives outshine the negatives, eh?
Plus, there was a lot of tedious shit in Gen IV that no one seems to remember anymore, because of "nostalgia" - yet everyone wants a fucking remake.

>>31826610
that's hardly postgame, at all

>>31827353
I didn't finish yet and I don't even have the will to do it because it's so boring

>>31837779
GF can barely do one region right nowadays.
Just look at Alola.

>>31833980
That would imply being bored of every part of Pokemon.
I can go back to Gen 3, 5 and HGSS and still have fun and do the same with several spin offs.

So instead of moaning, have you ever stopped and thought "huh, maybe this game has been downgraded".

>>31826035
Not like it matters to me i hardly do post game stuff anyway i don't only live off pokemon you know

File: 1461996176438.png (356KB, 680x510px) Image search: [Google]

356KB, 680x510px

At least the battle spot ladder is fun, but outside of that SM is complete garbage and there's nothing to save from it
It even manages to have the worst region out of every pokemon games even after the garbage that was Kalos
But it sold stupidly well, so Game Freak is gonna continue to do the same mistake over and over again

>>31835501
But XY was better

>>31838283
>At least the battle spot ladder is fun
>Mimikyu, Lele, Koko and Garchomp, the meta

>>31838300
>strong pokemons are popular
wow who would've guessed

>>31837846
lucina is a badass fighter and rosalina has a sad backstory.

lillie have.....none of those, why is lillie so popular again?

>>31838306
>free "save the match" ability
>stopping all priority and getting more power than Mega Kangaskhan
>Jolteon's speed with Thundurus' power, blocking sleep and braindead Volt Switch plays
>fucking fairy types
Being strong isn't the problem, being cancerous is.

>>31830213
It is though. The Maison has like what? A dozen fights less than Platinum/HGSS's Frontier? Yet people shit on one and praise the other. Why? Because they(rightfully) like one more than the other. One has gimmicks that make it not boring and more prone to replays and the other is straight up, no-bullshit fighting.

I'm all for attacking a game for its faults, but shit like "___ has no postgame" because you like a facility better in another game is fucking retarded.

>>31838447
>A dozen fights less than Platinum/HGSS's Frontier?
If you're going by sheer volume of fights until completion the maison has more.