What was so fucking difficult about designing a Mega Flygon?

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>>31812952
>Not happy with Dragon Dance Flygon

I don't even know what to say anymore.

I blame PokeCheck.

>>31812981
I actually hate Flygon, I think it's one of the worst Pokemon. But the fact that they outright stated "we were 100% doing Mega Flygon in ORAS but couldn't think of a design" irritates me in the extreme. Plenty of other Megas "fix" badly designed Pokemon (Blaziken and Camerupt come to mind).

>>31813012
>Mega Camerupt better designed than base form Camerupt

>>31812952
Well, given that your pic looks like absolute ass, I'm not actually surprised that they couldn't come up with a good one.

>>31812952
GF said they don't just randomly add shit to a Pokemon and call it a Mega. Designing them took a lot of time. They wanted to not just make a new Pokemon, which just requires making something good looking, making a Mega requires them maximizes the appeal of an existing Pokemon in a way that would make the fans of that Pokemon happy.
This was hard for Flygon. They couldn't think of a way to just increase its appeal. I'd ask you, how would you improve Flygon's design? I'm not a fan of Flygon, but I do believe there's not much its design lacks or could improve from having.

Hahaha, we don't really know!

>>31813140
>Designing them took a lot of time. They wanted to not just make a new Pokemon, which just requires making something good looking, making a Mega requires them maximizes the appeal of an existing Pokemon in a way that would make the fans of that Pokemon happy.
Then why do 90% of Megas look worse than the base form?

>>31813140
>GF said they don't just randomly add shit to a Pokemon and call it a Mega.
Could have fooled me, for that's exactly how Mega Sharpedo is designed.

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>>31813140
>GF said they don't just randomly add shit to a Pokemon and call it a Mega. Designing them took a lot of time.

>>31813111
You really think OP's picture looks worse designed than this one?

>>31812952
>falling for Sugi's lies
Whatever the reason was it certainly wasnt the difficulty of coming up with a design considering shit like Mega Sharpedo and Mega Aerodactyl got a pass

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>>31813012
Oh sorry, didnt know this was the shit taste general

>>31813159
>You really think OP's picture looks worse designed than this one?
Yes. It's just Flygon X Latios/Latias

>>31812952
>Mega Flygon
>Ability
>Arena trap
>"Mega Flygon buries itself under the sand lying in wait of its prey, echoing its life as Trapinch"
>Banned to ubers

>Gamefreak somehow weren't able to show the designs first of all and do a worldwide poll on it

Yeah ok.

>>31813152
Just because you don't like them doesn't make them worse. The vast majority is loved by all. The ones that look worse can be counted with just one hand. Glalie, Garchomp, Aerodactyl, Sharpedo, Heracross. Those are the only objectively worse looking ones. Manectric and Gyarados are questionable.

>>31813156
>>31813159
I won't even try defending Sharpedo. I feel like it was given a Mega simply because it was Archie's Pokemon, not because they had a good design in mind.

>>31812981
Probably just an excuse to not have it outclass a certain other dragon/ground landshark.

>>31813159
this is ugly af

>>31813203
Even so, many megas are poorly designed. I'd argue that Gamefreak are in fact expected to give B-list pokemon such as Flygon the same treatment, since these pokemon don't have sizable fanbases to justify giving them good looking megas.

>>31813179
Garchomp > Flygon.
If anything I'm defending Flygon because he needs fucking help. He's awful.

>>31813191
It looked like an X-Wing or Arwing to me.
Like, I didn't do the image, obviously. I'm not even saying it's good. It's okay; better than some Megas with shit stuck on them, but I would hope Gamefreak could have at least come up with something on this level, where the theme isn't changed very much but its concept (FLYgon) is streamlined and has a subtle reference in it.

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>>31813140
>GF said they don't just randomly add shit to a Pokemon and call it a Mega. Designing them took a lot of time.
Funniest thing I've read all day.

The only good megas are stuff like Mega Slowbro and Mega Mawile

Mega Mawile because it just looks like an evolution which it probably should have been

Mega Slowbro because it's sleek and consistent and looks like a logical design that follows Slowbro's theme

Most Mega's just follow the design "Just add shit to it and make it look angrier" and ignore the pokemon's inherent design

>>31813233
M-Mawile is literally just normal Mawile but with an extra set of horns. It'd be a shitty evolution.

>>31813243
I respectfully disagree Anon.
In terms of design I agree with >>31813233
HOWEVER Mega Mawile mechanically is good enough to justify taking up a Mega slot instead of being an accessible evo, otherwise everyone would use it and it would centralize the metagame.

>>31813140
>Designing them took a lot of time
>Gluing a flower to Venusaur's head took a lot of time
>Sticking a wig on Ampharos took a lot of time
>Turning Aerodactyl into a prehistroic Count Olad took a lot of time

>OP's pic

No, no, no.
A good deal of Megas take traits from prior evolutions. Mega Ampharos grows wool once more. Mega Aggron has a tendency to stand on fours. Mega Sharpedo has a mola-like shape akin to Carvahna.

That was where the artist's block rolled in - how would they integrate traits from Trapinch and Vibrava into Flygon?

>>31812952
i believe the OP pic is just a parody of flygon being designed as third latis

>>31813199
>whole concept is its evolution
>evolution clearly points at how it's actual adult form is a flying creature
>becomes a trapinch again and most likely this would also involve a drastic speed nerf
why

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>>31813289
>Turning Aerodactyl into a prehistroic Count Olad took a lot of time

My sides.

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>>31813289
>"I KNOW! Let's fuse Salamence's wings together! Makes total sense!"

>>31813325
>salam allah makkah akhbar brother i-is a western dragon i swear

>>31813303
What does Mega Scizor get from Scyther?
What does Mega Charizard X get from Charmander or Charmeleon?
What does Mega Blastoise get from Squirtle or Wartortle?
What does Mega Lucario get from Riolu?

I'm not trying to antagonize you Anon but I fear you're falling into the "muh patterns" mentality. For sure, some Megas take traits from pre-evos like you said (Tyranitar gains a Pupitar-like armour, Gengar get a more Haunter-shaped body) but this is by no means a "design philosophy". It's not a rule. I think we're at the point where we have to admit that some Megas just didn't have as much time put into them as others.

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>>31813325
>"Shit guys. How do we design this?"
>"Uh, just add more fluff on it and make it bigger or something lol."
>"Holy shit! That's genius!"

>>31813243
It gets taller, and gains a different pair of pants or whatever. It makes it looks like it changed outfits while still following the design of the original

>>31813307
>>31813199
Here's what I would do.

>Desert Spirit
>(Sandstorm version of Desolate Land or Primal Sea)
>Summons a harsh sandstorm as long as Mega Flygon is present; nullifies all Ice-type moves
in b4 >muh Ice types

>>31813379
>nullifies ice
non sense
deviantart tier ability for a common species pokemon

thematically would get sandstream or sand veil
competitively only game freak knows, sheer force and other power boosting abilities to compense the lack of actual item at this point can go on every mon

>>31813401
>deviantart tier ability for a Mega pokemon
ftfy
Yeah it's OP but it's not like Flygon is doing anything right now

Flygon is shit and should stay shit

>>31813217
Flygon is fine and you're just another autist sperging out for no reason
Better no mega than shit like >>31813159

>>31813490
Meh. You say that, but Mega Sharpedo is OU.

>>31813544
who cares

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The fuck is wrong with Mega Sharpedo? It's not much different. The only real flaw it has is those spikes on its nose, but other than that, it's not bad in any real way compared to normal Sharpedo.

>>31813579
>The fuck is wrong with Mega Sharpedo?
What isn't?

>>31813623
The bigger size, the great looking teeth and mouth, the golden stripes going across its eyes and fins. They did go a bit overboard with the stripes, now that I take a better look.

>>31813623
It looks perfectly fine in-game. the spikes etc are only there when attacking. Its art looks terrible but the model looks amazing

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>>31813623
It looks a lot more ferocious than Sharpedo.

>>31813579
>The fuck is wrong with Mega Sharpedo?
It goes full Sinnoh and adds unnecessary spikes and lines everywhere instead of actually looking like it had effort put into it like Mega Beedrill or Mega Medicham.

>>31813768
Mega Sharpedo is what happens when GameFreak forces a design for plot related reasons

They clearly didn't have an idea for a good design but had to think up of something for the remakes, so they slapped some lines and spikes, gave it a jew nose and called it a day

>>31813836
At least they tried with Mega Camerupt.

>>31812952
Mega Flygon
Ability: Mega Launcher

80 - 80 (+0)
100 - 80 (-20)
80 - 100 (+20)
80 - 140 (+60)
80 - 100 (+20)
100 - 120 (+20)

It now learns Earth Power

>>31812952
every good idea is taken by the fans

>>31813325
Yeah because a glider is inherently more capable of "flying" than the sorry excuses for wings of the base form.

Flygon not being a Ground/Bug type has caused it problems in all areas, this becomes more apparent as time moves on

I imagine they were torn on making it more draconic in design or more insectoid and were unable to make something really coherent

>>31813843
There was a clear theme they could go for with Camerupt, with it being a volcano Camel. That wasn't the case with Sharpedo. It was just a half Shark.

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>>31812952
A lot of people seem to forget what Flygon is supposed to be.

>>31812952
Trapinch is too perfect so nobody needs flygon

>>31814128
its a dragon
vibrava is a dragonfly
they do this with evolutions

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>>31813140
Yeah sorry but given how stupid Mega-Aerodactyl looks I call bullshit on this

>What was so fucking difficult about designing a Mega Flygon?

Faggots on the internet keep taking all the good designs and Gamefreak doesn't want to look like they're stealing?

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>>31814328
>fans
>good designs
Anyone who ever saw any "starter evolution" prediction threads will laugh hysterically

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>>31814169
this

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>>31814478
>not the superior claypinch

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>>31814534
claypinch is great
I love the clay pokemon cards

but this is the trapinch I have

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>>31813667
Even then, it's only the Sugimori art that is shit. Sugimori just can't draw megas.

>>31814574
not him but
I just think that the art should reflect that M-Sharpedo almost NEVER has the snout spikes out.

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>>31814574
This is the real sugimori art for mega sharpedo, anon, the image that you posted are from the anime or other shit

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>>31814617
tfw this will never be real

>>31813203
>Manectric and Gyarados are questionable.
M-Manectric is my mega fav

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>>31814720
The art I posted was from the Global Link, and it's an example of how on-model Sugimori art should look like.

>>31814592
That would just look imbalanced. The white section on the pectoral fins balance out the spikes since they are both white features on Sharpedo that are depicted within the blue areas in the design. It begins to look very underdesigned because there is too much open blue areas in the design.
Plus, the spikes are complimented by its triangular shape by the scars, mouth and eyes. Mega Sharpedo was designed around the spikes, whether we like it or not, and obscuring it at all times defeats the purpose.

>>31812981
Because it's still shit compared to Garchomp and has no niche. It has worse bulk, worse speed, worse damage. There's literally nothing it does better than Garchomp. If they buff Flygon's SPE to 110 and the SPA to 100, then they'd fix Flygon, and he would be a competent mixed attacker.

>>31813973
It already knows Earth Power, dumbass.

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=M-Sharpedo

>>31815344
I see what you mean and your analysis of the design is well thought out. However, I do think M-Sharpedo looks better in the 3D model, where the spikes are not present. The biggest issue with the spikes is that the official art cannot effectively communicate that they have an "effect" (retractibility).

>>31814054
>Bug
You're the worst kind of Flygonfag

>>31813243
The fact that two horns still manages to perfectly mimic hair makes it a good design.
It's a very simplistic addition but the end result works very well.

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>>31815430
At least we have this.

>>31815360
Immune to grounded hazards, has defog and roost.

>>31815580
>Torchic

Everytime.

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Sharpedo is a chimera of different sharks

>>31813140
GF is the stupid idiots who cant even into design
lollooooooololololoololololololololagjweoighawurhglwiglu;wokekxd

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>>31813199
I would've probably gone this route in designing a Mega Flygon, just so that it would get its previous evolution's great ability again.
Perhaps in a mega design, the red edges of it wings grow spikes, something similar to what Druddigon has for wings. That way every time it flapped its wings, it would look like a Trapinch closing its mouth.
It might look a bit like Molgera.

>>31815580
That's pretty.

>>31815671
>Sawfish
>Shark
Autistic retard

>>31815917
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawshark

"Not to be confused with sawfish."

...

>>31812952
that mega looks god awful

>>31815917
I think it's more autistic that you know sharks and rays don't share a common ancestor despite their similar adaptations.

>>31812952
Literally my moms green Latios