I miss him so much.

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>nobody remembers you

Someone post that webm of a bird REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEing to a dead one

why is there a dumbbell

>>31799005
t. nonlifter

thats a barbell

>>31799007
thanks, i appreciate it

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>>31798738
>tfw he was right in the end

I'm so sorry Talonfaganon. You were right. for god sake i miss this fucking stupid bird so much.

i really loved tflame in doubles

>>31802614
>priority Tailwind

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The bravest

>>31802730
which bird the bravest now? Skarmory, Crobat, Dodrio?

I miss 1HKOing it. That bird was useless then, and it's useless now.

ITT: Stockholm Syndrome

Brave Birb wasn't even that broken of a Pokemon to deserve the shafting it got this gen. Tapu Lele's introduction was the only "nerf" this thing needed, but of course badfags had to cry to GF about it.

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>>31802830
>Mega mom loses 25% of its damage
>Power Up Punch is no longer a TM
>Sucker Punch nerfed
>Mega Salamence receives a 10% nerf
>Mega Blaziken still the same
>Mega Lucario still the same
>Both Memezards still the same

I knew this would happen when people kept complaining about Kangaskhan but not other megas

>>31802614
brah talonflame is still completely usable in doubles
he's still pretty good in singles too, but definitely lacking.

Gale Wings should have been a 50%+, not only full HP.
(I like running Umbreon to Baton Pass Curse Subs to it, and with Wish to keep its Gale Wings up.)

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Get your priorities straight, OP.

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And stay dead.

>>31802856
>hone claws is no longer a tm

meanwhile
>snarl and confire are both tms and do the same shit, barring one hitting two targets in doubles

On one side I really miss bravest borb, on the other side I can finally use this >>31802866

>>31802856
Mence lost 10% of its damage but now it also gets +20 base speed upon mega evolving so he didn't become any less powerful anyways

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>>31798738
I honestly wish it was back, he would stop Pheromosa when no one else could.

>>31802856
Mega Salamence deserved a nerf, same with megamom. Charizard Y is UU, Charizard X is a shitmon now that fini exists, Lucario and Blaziken are fair.

>>31802893
this is honestly a buff to mence. what kos does he even miss with the 10% loss? very very few, especially after dancing.
besides, it's especially good to special mence sets which weren't using aerilate anyway.

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>>31802916
I'm saying that Salamence's nerf is a slap in the wrist compared to Kangaskhan. Both used to have the same damage output with Double Edge.

Also, Charizard was cancer in doubles since 2014. And he's fucking back.

As a final note... LO Modest Lele deals higher damage with Psychic than ORAS' Adamant Kangaskhan with Return. Those nerfs were unwarranted.

>>31802939
> it's especially good to special mence sets which weren't using aerilate anyway.
I'm not a mence expert but I have seen Hyper Voice being used with Aerilate.

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>>31802945
>Doubles

>>31802916
Charizard Y got banned from UU solely because of New Toy Syndrome. It was among the first quickbans from the beginning of UU alpha. I'd still say Charizard X is the best DD mon in the tier with so many Steel types running around in OU right now. Tapu Fini can be worn down since it has no recovery.

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>>31802945
Mega Mom deserved every bit of nerf that came to it.

>>31802965
I meant to say he only dropped to UU due to New Toy Syndrome lol

>>31802945
Weren't most Kangs running Double Edge in ORAS?

>>31802965
By the time you wear down Fini, it's already dunked on you with Moonblast. I suppose you could run meme punch, but you miss out on that crucial, crucial earthquake.

I won't argue with you on the fact that it's the best DD sweeper in OU, simply because there are no good DD sweepers in OU

>>31802989
Moonblast is a 3HKO at most on no-bulk Zard X. Only a fool would keep Zard in vs a healthy Fini.

Also, I'd argue there's a couple of good DD sweepers right now besides Zard X. Gyarados and Salamence only got better as sweepers thanks to Flyinium-Z. +1 Supersonic Skystrike from Salamence actually OHKOs standard Tapu Fini after Stealth Rock.

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>>31802988
It was more popular. Personally I remember not running it myself because everything was EV's to survive it so I'd be taking recoil for nothing (ie vs Amoonguss, Thundurus)

btw:

>252+ SpA Life Orb Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 317-374 (92.9 - 109.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

>252+ Atk Parental Bond Kangaskhan-Mega Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 315-370 (92.3 - 108.5%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

My memory was bad, Psychic out damages even Double Edge.

>>31802960
It IS the official format.

>>31803058
Tapu Lele is broken as fuck, holy crap.

>>31802952
only if tutors come.

>>31803026
yeah but zard x is still really easy to nuke with something like z psychic.

I've been thinking of "Bravest Bird" so much that I somehow forgot that the original move is Brave Bird, and now it feels wrong to read.

>>31802945
LO Lele is one of the least popular sets. Bulky scarf is what most are running.
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>>31803058
Pokemon doesn't JUST balance for VGC. Otherwise they would have never touched any of the megas at all.

>>31802781
Staraptor

>>31802781
Staraptor reclaims its title as Bravest Bird, king of the BL empire.

>>31803366
That doesn't changes the ridiculous fire power that she has, in fact, it only highlights how ridiculous she is by being able to use items while megas are stuck with their stones.

I miss when priority and status weren't completely killed thanks the presence of two single Pokemon existing

And people people still would rather complain about the genies than the cancer that are the Tapus.

>>31803399
oh mate im not arguing that lele is broken, easily the best tapu. An utterly stupid and terribly designed mon. She needs -15 SPA, there was no reason to give such a fast mon that much damage and bulk.

koko would be the best tapu, but his spa is just too low for him to beat garchomp without a Z. If he got Moonblast or Play Rough, he'd be the best.

lele's has the best typing of the tapus, the best bulk when combined with the typing, and the best damage. Lele is probably the only real reason (besides Knock Off) that Muk is as popular as he is.

>>31802860
Godammit, Carlos!

Still my second favorite.
Priority Z-Brave Bird in doubles is fun.

>>31802874
Confide doesn't do damage.

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>Gale Wing is nerfed
>in Psychic Terrain the meta
It's a blessing in disguise

>>31798738
I don't he can die for all I care

>>31806211
Wait does Talonflame even affected by Psychic Terrain being flying and all

>>31806256
Talon can't hit stuff that is affected by terrain and it can be hit since hes off the ground.

>>31802916
>Charizard Y is UU
This is one of the biggest Smogon/VGC disconnects in pokemon history.

And I am fascinated by it.

>>31806256
still affected. being flying type means you dont get the psychic terrain boost.

>>31806285
ZardY is just better in doubles

Also isn't it OU again?

>>31802790
I always ran with a mega slowbro, so for me it was more of a very popular free switch in

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>>31806211
>Looks like the duck died
Did that bird break it's fucking neck?

>>31806285
Drought and Zard-Y are better in doubles, it seems, judging by the use of shit like Torkoal and its undoubted synergy with Arcanine. Stuff that walls it/OHKOs it is probably less prevalent, too.

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>>31806211
>TFW Talonflame is the duck now

>>31810085
I think it chopped its head off, I could be wrong, but look closely

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>>31810290
>Dat crit

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>Last gen Fletchinder was RU
>Now Talonflame is

Oh, how the mighty have fallen
Did it really have to be such a massive fucking nerf with NO compensation? At least give it Earthquake or something so it CAN be used.

>>31810372
>Did it really have to be such a massive fucking nerf with NO compensation?
yes

>>31810387
Even with EQ, Talonlame would still be a suboptimal choice in RU at best. I just want it to have SOMETHING, even if it doesn't help that much.

>>31798738
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WR_-PmTheA

>>31802916
Zard X is still the second best OU mega, don't fool yourself.

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>>31810474
That's a pretty big accomplishment considering its utterly terrifying competition with massive threats like Mega Garchomp and Mega Gyarados.

>>31810085
>>31810290
looks like decapitation, but must have been a neck blow, severing the spinal cord or something

>>31810290
Went on Youtube, can now confirm the falcon snapped its neck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73OvZ_l35Sw
Watch that slow-mo clip section at .25

Bruh, nature is savage as fuck. Gen VI brave bird was too real.

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>>31810506
Oh yeah, I see it. Man, it's horrifying imagining something that fast and comparatively massive swooping from the sky and taking you out with literally zero time to react.

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>>31799002

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>>31810523
I was thinking the same shit. You'd never see it coming.

An all-continental bird too, save Antarctica, so it's not like you can necessarily avoid a crazed human attacking one.

Talonflame @Focus Sash
Gale Wings
Naive
252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 Sp.A
-Tailwind
-Acrobatics
-Overheat
-U-Turn

There, Gale Wings will only be used for a quick Tailwind, then you're good.

>>31810506
Jesus christ, good thing this shit got nerfed, just imagining my poor pokes suffering the same fate is horrifying.

In all seriousness it's amazing how fucking fast that blow was, in fact I would''ve expected more damage but I guess with a size like that you can only do so much. Any bigger and it would be slower.

>>31806211
Goddamn, it's so fast I can only see a triangle at the left fractions of a second before it hits the duck.

So what happened to smogonbird? Haven't played new gen so I don't know about any nerfs. Seeing these post really make me fucking happy. I love heracross and that bird wreaks his shit. Fuck that bird.

>>31810799
gale wings only works with full hp now so sneaky pebbles, LO, brave bird, damaging weathers and obviously any attack nullifies it

>>31810799
>tfw mega heracross was A-rank OU in oras

jfc, what's it gonna be this gen?

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The wings of the dream have been clipped.

>>31798738
>Dragons and fighting types take over the meta
>They introduce an overpowered type that shits over them,and stop making good pseudo dragons
>Priority take over the meta
>Shit over its best user and add several counters to it
Why is this Gamefreak's approach to balance?

>>31811625
For some reason, they just can't into post new game release tweeking. Literally none of the kiddies who play would mind or even notice some of the fixes.

Game Freak is just incompetent as fuck. But it's Pokemon, so it's almost impossible to get them to change.

>>31798738
>MY GOD EVERYONE USES THE SAME BIRD THERE'S NO SKILL SHIT GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>WHY DID THEY NERF THE BIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck you. I never cared about Talonflame, didn't dislike it or like it, but the nerf is completely justified.

>>31811770
Considering Game Freak's meta, nerfing the birb and giving us Mimikyu was a special kind of stupid.

Mimikyu is ten times worse than Talonflame as he can actually pull off a sweep.

>>31806256
>>31806284
>>31806289
Terrains are dumb as fuck

>>31810523
>clicks pic
Why hello there nightmare fuel

>>31811829
How will GF nerf Terrains next gen

>>31812178
Probably remove the damage boosts.