Now that the dust has settled, what went right?

>>31791780
Totem battles are intresting and fun as fuck

Special Ace Trainers on routes

Early "bike" and no HM's

Battle Tree cameos+music

Those will be the thing I'll miss probably

Konikoni City.

Pokemon designs

No HMs

A few difficulty spikes

Decent story for pokemon game

No HMs

Endearing characters

Music

Tapus

No HMs

>>31791780
The region is sooooooooooooooooo boring and empy.

>>31791835
>sooooooooooooooooooooo
>empy

You must be +18 to post here

tropical islands in general are super comfy and i want more of them

>>31791852
Wew lad

>>31791823
you said no HMs twice.

>>31791780
>Elite Four members have 5 pokemon

that alone made Sun and Moon the best game in 5 years

>>31791780
Plot that isn't total shit, that caught me off guard.

moderate challenge
new Pokémon
IV checker
Pelago

>>31791823
>Pokemon designs
no
>A few difficulty spikes
where?
>Decent story for pokemon game
no

>>31791780
Had very good and enjoyable secondary characters such as

Gladion
Nanu
Guzma
Lana
Olivia
Skull Grunt A
Skill Grunt B
Hiker David

>>31791780
>Good pokemon designs barring starters
>Incredibly beautiful region
>Pokeride except music
>Enjoyable characters and villains
>Interesting plot to say the least
>Totem Battles
>Good League
>Ultrabeasts

A person can read this and say SM sounds like a good game but let me reaffirm that it is still the worst pokemon game yet.

>>31791909
Thanks for your input big boy.

>>31791928
>worst pokemon game yet.
elaborate

also:
>ultrabeasts
>anything but garbage

>>31791780
First Pokemon game to intentionally try to make me laugh and succeeded beautifully

Also totems are like the best thing they've ever invented if done right. I am excited for difficulty hacks for this game

>>31791983
Totem Primal Kyogre with +6 in all stats and Entertainment Araquanid as teammate when?

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>>31791780
People in this thread have pretty much pointed out most of the reasons I like it but I really hope that they make more like this.
For once, I didn't just breeze through the excuse of a plot present in most gens, I actually cared about the characters and the plot direction. I also loved the UBs as excuses to make absurd designs and the fact that bug types got it so good this gen, especially compared to how much they were shafted last gen.

It's one of my favorite Pokemon generations by far, and will likely stay that way for many generations considering what it dethroned. My only real complaint is that I wish it was longer, since the prime point of SM is the excellent singleplayer.

I think it was mostly pretty good. The only major issues (for me) are the small number of new Pokémon/Alolan forms, those awful framerate drops in doubles and how terrible the online system is compared to Gen VI's.

Everything else "went right" or was at least good enough for me not to care

>>31791835
I agree. The ultimate Kanto pandering.

>>31791928
>>Ultrabeasts

Had shit all to do with the plot for the most part.

>>31791961
>Obnoxious story that kills the game's replay value
>Shitty simple maps and no complex dungeons
>Way more Kanto Cocksucking and new pokemon often being rare
>No difficulty unless fighting a Totem or League
>Removal of Double/Triple/Rotation battles in favor of shitty Royal
>Pokefestival over PSS
>No Zygarde after Zygardequest
>Music is hardly memorable outside of 2 or 3 battles
>National Dex confined to 5 dollar addon

Ultrabeasts are the introduction of pokemon foreign and alien to our world and their designs all nail that aesthetic perfectly. What sucks is that they are just shitty anticlimactic wild encounters who are impossible not to catch.

>>31792057
I agree, they could have had everything to do with the plot but they got squandered hard as fuck. Only good thing about them is their designs.

>>31791780
>what went right?

No trainer had more than 3 Pokemon, so i was never really challenged.
Every trainer and wild pokemon's was significantly lower than my team, which made the game very easy.
Riding pokemon and getting rid of HMs simplified the game and made it more appealing to my child brain.
Flashy and overpowered Zmoves really took away some of the battle strategy (even more so than mega evolutions) which streamlined battling
All around the game was more childish and gimmicky, but i think that's a good thing because I enjoy consuming whatever garbage Gamefreak (aka muh childhood gods) decide to shit out

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>Nobody mentions Z-moves because nobody likes Z-moves

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>>31792078
>>No difficulty unless fighting a Totem or League
>No difficulty unless fighting bosses
>which are enemies that are made more difficult to defeat
Also, that Carbink lady.

>>31792083
Kek.

>>31792123
Z conversion is the only good Z move

>>31792142
>Having bosses makes it ok to make every regular trainer incredibly weak
They were all the equivalent of fighting wild pokemon.

>>31791780
>Comfy region
>Chibi characters replaced with full-size animu
>No HMs
>Limited water routes, low encounter rate in water.
>Usual League plot given a shake-up
>Restaurants available just for the sake of eating
>Care button
>can finally remove hats
>Overall feeling of actually being in the world
>>31792123
Better than Mega Evolutions IMO.

>>31792123
Z moves are just guaranteed pseudo hyperbeams that people can cheese to win their battles.

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>>31792194
>Comfy region

>>31792189
>What is Z-Parting Shot

>>31792194
>Comfy region
I use that a lot for Sinnoh but that region has substance beyomd just atmosphere.

>>31791780
Poke pelago

>>31791909
>where
play without exp share and to set.

Lurantis, Hau and Lusamine fucked me hard.

>>31792005
we can make one with pk3ds
Waning Moon and Setting Sun is made by a retard that literally relaced a trainer with a self insert of himself in game.

>>31792229
There are infinite possiblities for Z-moves, it's just that people aren't creative enough.
eg Z-snatch Hoopa-U, Z-Sunny day Charizard, Z- rain dance Manaphy, Z-Heal block Latios, Z-Mirror move Honchkrow, Z-Belly drum Azumarill and too many others

>>31791909
>A few difficulty spikes
>where?

totem lurantis, first hau fight on ula ula, kahuna nanu, lusamine are the biggest ones

>>31791780
Various quality of life improvements

Removal of HMs

(Most) new pokemon are good

Story was kind of lame in the end, but it was engaging

God like ost

Great environments and locations

But unfortunately, the battle tree exists.

>>31792083
>No trainer had more than 3 Pokemon
Hell most of them only had one pokemon.

>>31792296
Unfortunately you can only use them once and it uses up a turn and item slot.

>>31792424
using specs draco meteor also takes up a turn and an item slot

>>31792460
One of them wins a game too.

>>31792460
You're also on the offensive with a special attack boost.
You might as well just use the status move on it's own instead of wasting a Z-move.

>>31792244
>exp.share
All I did was level up one Pokemon to 100 then swept everything.

>>31791780
Graphics and removal of HMs. That is all.

>>31792315
yeah no sorry you're bad

>>31792359
>Removal of HMs
... What?
How is this a good thing? All it does is waste time with silly animations, create shitty arbitrary road blocks and removes any sense of puzzle or exploration from a game that already had next to none. Its handholding and railroading the worst since gen 5.

>>31793335
HMs aren't that much better in that regard because you had to sit through the animation of holding up the ball and flashing the mon in question before doing anything.
That said the only real problem with HMs is that you couldn't delete them without going to a remover so if they just make them regular TMs in that regard then they would far surpass Rides.

>>31792315
>totem lurantis

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