This is the official Pokemon game tier list. If you disagree,

>>31758852
I got tired of those discussions.

I actually liked Yellow better than Red/Blue

>>31758852
>Pokémon XD and Colosseum
Where did the meme that they are good come from? They're complete shit, like Diamond/Pearl slow but without a region to explore or a wide variety of Pokémon to capture. I guess nobody here played them and just assumes they are good because they were told so, right? Nostalgia maybe?

>>31758880
Nope. I own them and replay them both yearly. Fun, but also challenging, more so than the main series. Your opinion is trash, drink bleach.

>>31758852
I can't disagree

>>31758879
same. idk why yellow is so far down

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>>31758852
Pretty damn accurate. Glad to see someone who also believes that ORAS are the embodiments of wasted potential.

>>31758913
Shitty anime pandering

>>31758880
>imagine having this much of a wrong opinion

>>31758896
>>31758924
I guess you are both 5 years old or hate the mechanics that make Pokémon good, since they are all absent in those games.

>xy above oras

>>31758852
Bump R/S, B/W, D/P and R/B down one tier, bump ORAS and Yellow up one tier

>>31758940
>ORAS being better than any other game

HAHAHA LOM ECKS DEE

>>31758943
>ORAS being anything but the worst

Taste this shit shouldn't be tolerated

>>31758852
Pretty much agree. ORAS was a massive disappointment but they were still great on their own.

>>31758923
i guess i could agree with that if it didnt come out 19 years ago when the anime was still new and was basically at its high point with popularity. if the game came out today then sure but for its time it was fine imo

>>31758852
>God Tier is fine
>Move RS down 1, Good otherwise fine
>Move XY and RB down 1
>Move Yellow and ORAS up 1
Fixed

Honestly ORAS should be in the Flawed section since really, if you liked RS these won't be to different. At least they did something with Archie and Maxie, although they still are bland in general.
But that's just my 2 cents.

>>31758965
The Anime is shit now, was shit then, and has ALWAYS been shit.

>>31758940
More megas is the only redeeming quality ORAS has over XY.

>>31758980
regardless of your views on the anime that doesnt change the fact that this was like the high point of pokemons popularity for the games and anime when like 9/10 people were into pokemon

>>31758938
>my opinion is the only correct one!
You say we act like 5, but have you seen yourself in the mirror? And just cause they deviate from the formula that means they're bad? Hello bean brain, how's RB?

>>31758961
Far from the worst.

>>31759016
Hoennbaby

>>31759004
They don't deviate, they remove stuff. No exploration. No wild Pokémon. No region. Boring level design. Stupid dfficulty curve. Slower than Diamond and Pearl. Models ported from Stadium.
You have to be blinded by nostalgia to like them more than the actual Pokémon games.

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>>31759016
>A fucking remake less polished than Emerald
>Not the worst

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>>31759024
I admit it.

>>31759043
>A fucking remake less polished than Emerald
Not an argument.

>>31759062
Yes it is. ORAS are garbage. Drink bleach.

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>>31758852

If you love colosseum, sign and share!

https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-remake-pokémon-colosseum-for-the-nintendo-switch

>>31759072
No.

>>31759077
>Having taste this bad

>>31759062
Definitely Autism.

>>31759077
this is the worst bait ive ever seen. but heres your (You) anyways

>>31759090
>>31759105
Have you not seen this image before?

>>31759122
Na

>>31759035
>says that you have to blinded by nostalgia to like them
That's why everyone still wants a new Colosseum game and everyone (almost) always talks good things about Gale of Darkness except for this contrarian nest, right?

>>31759178
>ORAS better than Sun and Moon

STOP

>>31759157
>everyone
Literally the least remembered games in the series kek
Also not an argument for quality

>>31758967
This
ORAS is flawed but added things to a shit generation making it slightly less shit
XY is absolutely worse than ORAS.

>diamond and pearl above anything
Eat a gun.

>>31759223
Let me guess, you think this board is the entire community as well, right? Or a reflection of the fandom's opinion.

>>31759205
everything is better than Sun and Moon

Did you just start playing?

>>31759259
No, the opposite. No one talks about Colosseum outside of here. And again, you still haven't said why they're good. I made my point here: >>31759035

>>31758852
>official game list
>has gen 5 titles in it
pick one
seriously, is this the birth of a new epic maymay?

>>31759283
>No exploration.
Yeah the games are pretty linear, I will admit that much, but I would have quit at least 2 gens ago if linearity bothered me
>No wild Pokémon.
Well duh, snagging replaces that. Besides, Gale of Darkness has a small pool of wild Pokemon
>No region.
Wide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle. This is what would happen if Orre "routes" were a thing. It breaks the whole atmosphere and snagging gimmick completely if it isn't desolate
>Boring level design.
I didn't find it boring really
>Stupid dfficulty curve.
No the difficulty curved very well if memory serves me
>Slower than Diamond and Pearl.
Maybe on a lagging GC emulator. Nothing is slower than DP.
>Models ported from Stadium.
Okay yeah that's fucking annoying. N64 models next to GC models feel so jarring
>You have to be blinded by nostalgia to like them more than the actual Pokémon games.
Played ebin maymay XD just last year and it was way more fun than I remembered it to be.

>>31759090
>>31759105
Imagine being a buttblaster newgenner.

Most normal people stopped after gen 2 for a reason.

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>>31759421

>>31758967
This desu

>>31758852
>XY in flawed but enjoyable

>GSC in good

>HGSS in godtier

kys

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>>31759437
I'm sorry but dismissing it won't change reality.

>>31759559
give real reasons now...now just edgelord bull crap

why is HGSS not god tier?

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>>31758852
>XY not at the bottom
>yellow not with RB
>including fucking gamecube spinoffs when they're not even main installments

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>gen1 is so dated!
>his favorite gen is 3 or 4

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check out this impeccable taste. I dropped Platinum from god tier almost solely because Gen4 is extremely slow. I almost dropped HGSS for the same reason. I don't like Gen4. It was the perfect middleground between 3 and 5, but it's unplayable today.

>>31758852
Yeah, that's an alright list.

>>31758961
He's not wrong though. ORAS is objectively better than XY and Sun/Moon. If you disagree you have almost as shitty taste as OP.

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>>31758852
100% accurate

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>>31759062
Here's your argument baitmaster

>>31758949
Certainly better than the shit that is D/P.

>>31758852
I guess it's not a terrible list. Assuming the tiers aren't in a specific order, than God tier is fine, but if they are Emerald needs to swith with B2W2. Also, ORAS needs to switch with Sun/Moon. Sun/Moon and Gen 1 should be in bad. BW should be in Flawed but enjoyable, as well as HGSS and GSC.

>>31761727
>ORAS is objectively better than XY and Sun/Moon
But that's fucking wrong.

>>31758852
Sun & Moon are not good.

>>31758852
Put emerald at the bottom and we have an agreement

>>31761807
>Sky Pillars bike challenge removed
This is good
>HMs are back to being as annoying as pre Gen 5 games
Implying HMs weren't always annoying. Arguably the only really good thing Sun/Moon did right besides music is removing the fucking things
>No auto-run
People actually complain about having to hold down a button? It's arguably better that way
>Delta episode was spoiled
That's your fault
>Mega Salamence is overpowered
I guess, but why are you playing a luck based game like Pokemon competitively to begin with? You might as well play Mario Kart competitively too.
>Mega Evolutions aren't used by the majority of trainers
Because they play it off as a unique thing only very special trainers can use. Gym Leaders and E4 should be able to use it though.
>No Mega Flygon
Poor baby

>putting spinoff shit in the tier list

off yourself

>>31758852
>HGSS and Platinum not in the lowest possible tier

Sorry anon, your list is objectively wrong. I know it must be embarrassing, but you can fix your error and try again another time.

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>>31761914
>Put the best game in the series at the bottom

>>31761823
Nope, as a video game, ORAS blows Sun/Moon and XY out of the water without question.

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>>31758852
If this is a "game" tier list, why the fuck are Sun/Moon up there? Those are "walk forward and read text" simulators.

>>31762007
This. XY is about as mediocre as a game gets, and Sun/Moon is barely even a game like what >>31762026 said. I mean fuck, at least ORAS let's the player explore unlike Sun/Moon where the player is too busy being Lillie's fucking bodyguard to do that.

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>>31761970
>>31761975
>Having this much of a shit taste

>Putting XY and ORAS under games they are objectively better then just becames you are personally dissapointed that they weren't as good as they could have been meme

>>31759043
That still would make it better then the original RS

>>31758852
>>31758922
>>31758961
>>31758949
>>31759024
>>31759043

The fuck is wrong with you people. This is an unhealthy level of obtuseness.

Since when has "not living up to it's full potential" = shit-tier game.

If that's the case, then literally every single Pokemon game ever has been shit, as Game Freak aren't skilled game developers. They just happened to have a lucky break on what became one of the most successful franchises of all time.

There's no doubt that ORAS could have been so much more. But worse than Red/Blue? That is just fucking delusional.

If you remove your nostalgia goggles, it's very very clear that the gen I games are fucking trash. To think that any of the other games are worse than the gen I games from an objective standpoint is simply retarded.

>>31762305
>There's no doubt that ORAS could have been so much more. But worse than Red/Blue? That is just fucking delusional.
Not at all. Red/Blue are better as the effort Gamefreak put into these games were excusable at their time. ORAS is fucking joke in comparison.They suffer from being remakes and not a entirely different/fresh game. Thats why its so fucking bad.

>>31765054
Not even the guy you're replying to but your argument is fucking bad

>Yellow is worse than Red/Blue
>when the PvE game balance is infinitely superior and not XY/ORAS tier "we didn't try"

>>31758852
Swap XY and Yellow and it'd be great

>>31759178
Now this is a list I can get behind.

>>31758852
>>31758852
newfag here, why is HGSS praised so highly>?

>>31758852

The Gen 3 games all need to go down one tier.

SM down a tier as well.

Crystal should arguably go up.

Not a bad list though, OP.

>>31765113
That would be pretty close to my ranking too

>>31765111
i'd assume most have fond memories of the OG gen2 games, a good remake only solidifies that

>Emeral god tier
>Ruby/Saphire good tier
>Oras bad tier
how to spot the emeraldsperm

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>>31765054

>Red/Blue are better as the effort Gamefreak put into these games were excusable at their time

That isn't a real argument.

Was Final Fantasy I a good game for it's time? Sure. Is it actually a good game? Fuck no.

The whole point of a "rating" system is about objectivity, not giving certain things handicaps or bonus points based on time periods.

Graphics are different from game-design in this aspect, Graphics literally cannot be helped. You can do a better job designing a game no matter when it occurred, regardless of what the "standard" for a "good" game was at the time.

The point is that R/B are objectively the worst games in the series from a design standpoint. Being riddled with bugs is the nail in the coffin. Take off the nostalgia goggles, quit calculating for "game design inflation" and stop making up stupid arguments.

I don't even inherently disagree with the idea that ORAS was very underwhelming and didn't deliver in the many ways that it could have. I'm just not delusional enough to think that not-living-up-to-potential makes it worse than objectively worse games.

>>31765113
This is garbage, kys my man,

oregano

>>31758880
Fucking this. I have no idea why people like the GCN games so much, they're so fucking dull and do literally nothing right.

>>31765113
Perfection.

>>31765113
Butthurt Johtoddler detected. How does it feel to kno that even GF doesn't give a fuck about your shitty region, but they regard Hoenn as their magnum opus?

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How long until this becomes the most hated game on vp?

>Holy Trinity
B2W2, Emerald, Platinum
>Really fucking good
HGSS
>Pretty good
BW, FRLG
>Pretty good but didn't have any emerald content
ORAS
>Pretty good, and has potential to be really fucking good with a third version
SM
>Good
RS
>Decent
GSC
>Bad
XY, DP
>Trash
RBY, GCN games

>>31765113

This desu

>>31765202
>How does it feel to kno that even GF doesn't give a fuck about your shitty region, but they regard Hoenn as their magnum opus?

Reminder that GF only remaked Hoenn because you cried so much for it.

Reminder that GF made RS with the intention of leaving it incomplete to sell more FRLG copies.

Reminder that Hoenn started the trend of removing loved features.

Hoenn is absolute shit. Face reality already.

>>31758880
Probably because they have the highest quality of PvE balance due to being focused on Doubles which the games have been balanced around since Gen III and having a very limited Pokemon roster for the player to use, and some nice, unique atmosphere. They're very much different but it doesn't make them bad either.

>>31765226
Lol but they DO love it more than any other generation. That's why the give it the most op Pokes and push it constantly. They even call it good old Hoenn nowadays.

Stay cucked Johtofag.

Gold/Silver deserves to be in the "Flawed but Enjoyable" tier.

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>>31765111
>>31765141

Nostalgia and the cute roleplaying aspect of having your first Pokemon follow you around on the field. That's mostly it.

In terms of design, HGSS were not particularly impressive. Johto looked great re-made, Kanto didn't, but that's because Kanto was ugly as sin from the start, can't change that without changing the look. That's just graphics stuff, which has been steadily improving regardless.

Johto got a couple extra routes and it's own new Safari Zone. A good chunk of Crystal's story with Eusine was put in. Ruins of Alph got some cool new additions. Lot's of great UI changes like enabling auto-run. Killer soundtrack, but Pokemon almost always hits the mark with soundtrack; GB sounds are available for nostalgia fags, a nice touch.

It had Battle Frontier which is always a major bonus for the more hardcore pokemon audience like on /vp/- but this isn't as impressive as it sounds as it is a literal copy-paste from Platinum's Frontier.

Now for the bad stuf: Kanto's Safari Zone was removed. The Sevii Islands are left out, despite being established in FireRed/LeafGreen to expand Kanto and help fix the Cinnabar > Viridian level curve. The level curve in general is still as fucked as it was in the original, not sure why they didn't fix that. Certain routes/caves in Kanto were shortened, excusable during the limited memory days of GSC, but not so much at HGSS' time.

Pokemon distribution still sucks, way too many early shitmons all game in Johto and Kanto, and some Johto Pokemon are so rare it's asinine, (Yanma has a 1% encounter rate on only one route.) Johto is still only 60% of a region in game time and content. The Johto storyline is unusually weak for Pokemon, despite Rocket being the villain they are irrelevant. Silver and Eusine are the only saving graces in that department.

HGSS were good games. Were they on the same level as BW2 or Platinum, or even Emerald? Certainly not. Nostalgia runs thick in the veins of /vp/ users.

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>>31765246
>tfw hoennbabies are now delusional adults
The most obnoxious section of the fanbase by far.

>>31765387
>he doesn't know
Also
>gen 2 update
No shit, what's next after 1?