>base 70-100 speed

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>base 101 speed

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>good looking Pokemon that are shit
>shit looking Pokemon that are good

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>base 102 speed

>>31747876
Competitive Pokemon in a nutshell

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>>31747861
>No priority
>Neither defense is 90+
>Not broken ability

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>base 151 speed
>scarf is still one of the most popular items on it

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>>31747861
>Technician with priority movies

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>>31747861
You think that's bad? ;-;

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>>31747861
It has Intimidate at least. Physical attackers would fail to OHKO him unless it's a STAB SE move.

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>speed goes from 122 to 132 so shit like tapu koku and jolteon can't outspeed and OHKO it

>gets raped by priority moves
>has no priority moves

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>obscenely high stats
>no moves to compliment those stats

>>31747986
Lurantis is so shitty not even Trick Room would salvage it.

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>High bulk
>No recovery

>>31747989
>no Dragon Dance
>doesn't even get Swords Dance
I found myself running Hone Claws as my final move instead.

>>31747861
>>31747909
>>31748033
>>31748069
>>31748835
Kommo-o is basically all of these

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>Electric Type
>Physical attacker

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>base 100 special attack for literally no reason

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>>31747861
>great attack stat
>terrible speed, bulk, and type

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>>31748864
>Electric type's version of Double-Edge is exclusive to Pikachu

>>31748932
Are you trying to imply volt tackle electrivire would be OU?

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>>31747861
>New exclusive ability that can do a shit ton of damage if your opponent switches
>No bulk and no speed what so ever, making it pointless to even have as an ability

>>31749050
No, but giving it a better move pool would at least bring it up from NU.

>>31749178
the red card set is still very funny

>>31747876
Not really. You're just focusing on the two or three good mons in OU that look like shit, or the fact that your bro is no good.

There are tons more shit designs rotting in PU, while OU has a lot of good designs too.

>>31749409
Better off just using Adapatability or Strong Jaw for more consistent boosts and being able to use a damage boosting item.

>>31749832
well yes but
the advantage of Stakeout + Red Card is that it can just kill a pokemon the opponent don't want to die

still, it would need at least a +10 buff in both defense

>>31748873
I don't get it. It doesn't get Leaf Storm or Giga Drain.

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>>31747861
>it has base 70-100 speed but the rest of it is good so you HAVE to put choice scarf on it and it becomes a new cancer in the meta

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>>31750842
It's for the hidden power tech

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>super fast but garbage stats everywhere else

>>31750911
can't think of anything besides Ninjask

>Fucking sick design that everyone's been waiting for since gen 1
>Shitty typing because muh patterns
>One stat is fucking incredible, one stat is above average, the rest of the stats are unusably bad - almost invariably speed
>Ability would give it at least a niche in using a certain move but it doesn't learn the move, or it learns a move with heavy recoil/low BP or something but it doesn't have the recoil removing/BP boosting ability
>There's another Pokemon of the same type that came out the gen after which just blows it out of the water in every possible way
>That Pokemon then gets a Mega
>This Pokemon has nothing

>>31751370
Being a flygon fan sucks, eh?

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>great stats
>absolutely garbage movepool

>Grass type with good stats all around and could synergize better on my team than the other grass types
>doesn't learn Sleep Powder/Spore

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>>31750910
>Decidueye used Hidden Power (Fire)!
>It's super effective!
>Amoonguss lost 20% HPs!
That special attack is not so useless anymore, uh? :^)

>>31751370
Who is this?

>>31751571
that's what I'd like to know

>>31751290
Electrode, Swoobat, Emolga, Kanto Persian

>>31749223
Electivire just needs something that can boost both its attack and speed, like maybe a dragon dance clone.

>>31752460
flygon

>>31752568

>Fucking sick design that everyone's been waiting for since gen 1
Yep

>Shitty typing because muh patterns
No

>One stat is fucking incredible, one stat is above average, the rest of the stats are unusably bad - almost invariably speed
Definitely not

>Ability would give it at least a niche in using a certain move but it doesn't learn the move, or it learns a move with heavy recoil/low BP or something but it doesn't have the recoil removing/BP boosting ability
Levitate doesn't do this

>There's another Pokemon of the same type that came out the gen after which just blows it out of the water in every possible way
Fuck garchomp

>That Pokemon then gets a Mega
Yep

>This Pokemon has nothing
Pretty much yes

Overall I'd say this is not the pokemon that >>31751370 is describing

>>31752610
>Fucking sick design that everyone's been waiting for since gen 1
Flygonfags are this delusional

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>best attacking stat is below base 80
>best STAB move is below 80 bp

>God tier bulk
>Ice type

>Amazing special movepool
>Spa is below 70

>An ability that many mons would kill for
>is given to a shitmon that can't even use it

What are there names /vp/?

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>Amazing physical move pool
>Swords Dance
>Ability that can work well
>Attack is bp 70

>>31752716
1 is Regice I think

2 is Tauros

3 is Simple

>>31752746
There's a lot of normals that have a good special movepool. Not normal but I remember marian being able to learn like flamethrower and ice beam so I put them on him as a kid cause lol super effective

>>31752716
1. Regice, Avalugg
2. Delcatty
3. Stakeout

>>31752460
>>31751571
probably flygon lel

>>31752798
I mean if you want a non-normal example Rhyperior gets a fuckload of good special moves with only base 55

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>SpA, SpD, Spe stat's are 105

>>31752959
mismagius isn't a bad mon

>>31751370
This is driving me insane, who the fuck is it?

>>31751370
Medicham? Spiritomb? Whiscash? Cobalion? Infernape?

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>>31747861
>special attacker with an ability for physical attackers

>the first Pokémon ever made that is actually completely useless in battle

You know who it is.

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>mega evolves
>gains an ability ending with "late" or "rate"

>>31751370
can't think of anything that fits this

>>31753737
Is that a good or bad thing?
Cause Return or Quick Attack on Mega Pinsir kicks fucking ass

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>>31748021

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>slow abut not trick room slow mixed attacker

>>31747861
Why people want ALL pokemon to be fast? If everyone are fast, then no one is.

>>31748835
>not using Bulk Up + Power Trip

>>31751422
>>31752568
>>31752821
>shitty typing
>the bit about stats
>the bit about ability
yeah I don't think he's talking about Flygon

>>31749178
who and what?

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>Amazing BST
>Given an ability that ruins it's usefulness
>Other powerful legends and Megas can run around scot free

>>31756036
Gumshoos, obviously.

>>31752522
how about an electric type flame charge ? it can also use Z-Electric terrain this gen, and its speed tier at +1 isn't bad since it beats phero and scarfers below 95