ITT: we try to come up with move tutor ideas for Alolan Pokémon

Incineroar: Fire Lash, Fire Punch, Sucker Punch, Drain Punch, Blaze Kick, Poison Jab, maybe even Seed Bomb to reference spitting shit like in its leaked art.

All it really needs is Drain Punch, Sucker Punch, and a better physical fire move.

inb4 shell smash kommo-o

>>31746549
Knock Off Midnight Lycanroc.

>>31746568
I forgot about the spitting thing Incineroar did in the leaked art. Seed Bomb sounds cool, Sucker Punch or Knock Off would help him more though probably

>>31746549
FUCK i forgot Drain Punch for Bewear

>>31746549
>serperior: Dragon Pulse, Shadow Ball
>B-Kyurem: Earthquake
>lurantis: Literally anything
>lunar pupper: Again literally anything
>dugtrio: Mean look lol

>>31746706
>Shadow Ball
>Earthquake
What did he mean by this?

>>31746549
Close Combat and Superpower for Lurantis.

I swear, with its ability and stats it seems that it would be a gimmickmon who would have an amazing movepool to compensate for its shitty BST.

>>31746747
I have no idea why they just made it a shitty version of Serperior. I'm pretty sure it has NO move that can benefit from Contrary, aside from Leaf Storm.

>Shore Up
Hippowdon, Excadrill, Tyranitar
>Beak Blast
Mandibuzz

May the stall meta begin

>>31746783
Serperior also only has one move which benefits from Contrary.->Leaf Storm

>Iron Head
Togedemaru

Pikaclone fags will approve this

>>31746842
Shore Up on Sand Stream Pokémon would be kinda broken, wouldn't it?
I'd love it on Gigalith anyway though
>>31746895
I guess that's true, but it's all it needs and the increased special attack benefits other moves too. Lurantis would be also ok if it had only Superpower as a Contrary move I guess.

Aurora veil for Aurorus. Ice shard and bullet punch for sandslash

>>31746842
Shore Up only makes sense for Hippowdon.

>>31746549
Why the hell would Decidueye be able to learn will-o-wisp from a move tutor when you can't teach it via TM?
>>31746679
NO. Bewear is hard enough to take down.

>>31747013
Oh you're right. Maybe as an event then, I guess. I really don't know how to buff Decidueye (when talking about new moves) and that's the only thing that came to mind.
Bewear would probably be OU with Drain Punch

>>31746549
Wtf would wilo- wisp do for decidueye. Burn got nerft.

Now here's some few better moves for him,

Shadow sneak,
High jump kick,
Leafstorm,
Thousands of arrows,

>>31747116
I doubt any of those would be more desirable than WoW, aside from Shadow Sneak maybe. Didn't think of that one.

For Delphonx and Florges, because they have no moves:

Boltbeam
Earthpower

>>31747116
Leafstorm is plausible as is shadow sneak, but high jump kick just wouldn't work on him and thousand arrows will not be a tutor move. Ever.

>>31747129
Actually when you think about it decidueye and high jump kick makes seance, remember ash's rowlet when it was attacking bounsweet, And decidueye doesn't even fly too much, it mostly jumps or glide, so I don't se how it can't just jump up and comeback down with a powerful kick. I mean it does get low sweep for some reason. So why not high jump kick. Or at least jump kick.

>Dhelmise - Pain Split, Knock Off
>Pyukumuku - Heal Bell, Magic Coat
>Minior - Earth Power, Air Slash
>Kommo-O - Superpower, Drain Punch,Gunk Shot, Outrage, Heat Wave, Focus Punch, Fire Punch

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Fire/Ice/Thunder/Drain Punch, Iron tail, Zen Headbutt, Head Smash, Cross Chop/Dynamic Punch, Megahorn, Play Rough, Stomping Tantrum, Knockoff, Shadow Claw, Night Slash, Aqua Tail Horn Dril and close combatl

>>31746549
>Golisopod: Ice Shard, Accelerock, Extreme Speed, Shadow Sneak, Quick Guard
G-Pod would have worked better if they had gone whole-hog with the priority idea. Why the fuck they didn't at least give it Ice Shard is beyond me.

>>31746744
Serperior uses shadow ball in one of the promos for B2W2 which is really weird. EQ for Kyurem because it needs anything and why not give the premier physical attack to it?
>>31746929
>>31747143
I like you two.
>>31747215
And you as well.

>>31747233
It really needs a buff.

>>31746747
Considering that Luranitis has some fighting coverage, I think that's entirely possible

>>31747427
I'm honestly fine with night dog's stats aside from maybe a bit more speed but choice scarf exists. I just want a wider movepool

Dhelmise: Synthesis, Knock Off
Bewear: Drain Punch
Swampert: Shore Up
Araquanid: Aqua Jet, Electroweb
Mimikyu: Focus Punch
A-Persian: Water Pulse, Shock Wave
Decidueye: Giga Drain

>>31747488
Absolutely. Especially something that could take advantage of No Guard like Iron Tail.

>>31747525
I can dig it.

>>31747013
>NO. Bewear is hard enough to take down.
Have you tried using special attackers?

>>31747525
I actually thought Decidueye could learn Giga Drain.

>>31746549
>Primaria wish
>Decidueye agility
>Incineroar foul play
>Toucanon flare blitz
>Gumshoos knock off
>Vikiavolt trick room
>Crabominable ice shard
>Lyranroc CC(Day) punches(Night)
>Golispod skill swap
>Araqunid aqua jet
>Wishiwashi heavy slam
>Bewar drain punch
>Mudsdale slack off
>Salazzle dark pulse
>Komola leech seed
>Turatnator aura sphere
>Minor recover
>Mimikyuu wild charge
>Togmaeru rapid spin
>Trseena knock off
>Passimain seed bomb
>Organgrou wide guard
>Drampa boomburst
>Dhelmise trick room
>Kommo-o drain punch
>Bruxcish lunge

How will the meta change?

>>31748093
>day dog getting close combat over the confirmed battle crazy one with no guard

>>31748093
>Drampa gets Boomburst
>Primarina doesn't
Anon, this hurts, let me dream

>>31746549
Decidueye: Low Kick, Drain Punch, Superpower.

Incineroar: Fire Punch, Knock Off, Drain Punch, Superpower.

Kommo-o: Drain Punch, Fire Punch, Knock Off, Dual Chop, Iron Tail, Iron Head, Gunk Shot.

As an Owlfag I must admit he has all that he needs, but better Fighting-type moves would really help it.

Even when I hate the humanoid Tiger I think he needs useful moves.

Kommo-o really takes the wind out of its sail with its moves and stats, so why not giving it better Fighting-moves and moves to beat Fairies?

Primarina: Moonlight

>>31748335
How the hell is Decidueye supposed to be able to use Drain Punch? Low kick or high jump kick maybe.

>>31748372
It has legs
it has feather hands that make a fist
it can fly

How can alakazam use iron tail huh? HUHHHHH?!

>>31748372
I don't know, I just want anything besides Low Sweep for a Fighting-type coverage. I still don't know how it can't learn Brick Break when he uses the tip of its wings as fingers.

>>31748441
I'll admit that the idea of Decidueye punching an Incineroar for super effective damage with those tiny ass feather-fingers would be pretty amazing

metronome on everything

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>>31748441
I was about to argue that Alakazam does have a tail but wtf? Only Abra and Kadabra get huge tails that mysteriously disappear, and Alakazam can still learn the iron tail by tm, so it's not a case of moves carrying over from pre-evos.

>>31746706
>>serperior: Dragon Pulse
but this is already a thing

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Celesteela: Synthesis, Stealth Rock

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>>31748566
DELETE THIS

>>31747525
>Swampert: Shore Up
A lot of things need Shore Up.

>>31748093
Some of these don't make much sense.

>>31748653
...God damnit anon.

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>Buzzwole: Drain Punch

>>31746571
???

???????????

>>31748608
Steelix, Bastiodon, Cradily, Shuckle, Probopass, Bronzong, Claydol, Golurk, Aggron, Rhyperior, Golem, Camerupt, the list could really go on forever.

>>31748710
Regirock

>>31748708
Before 1.1 battle tree had a Kommo-o set with shell smash

>>31748731
Registeel.
And Sandslash, Forretress, Magnezone, Klinklang, because why the fuck not.

>>31746549
Primarina: Wish, Moonlight, Calm mind

Dhelmise: Synthesis, U-turn, Spikes

Mudsdale: Stealth rock, Slack off/Shore up. Was thinking of muddy water too, but it's pretty much near useless on base 55 Sp. Atk

Tapu Fini: Moonlight or Recover
Tapu Bulu: Slack off/Synthesis and Play rough :^)

Togedemaru should probably get Rapid Spin.

Type:Null and silvally could really use some kind of recovery, even shitty recovery. Just anything but Rest. I suggest Dain Punch

Lycanroc-Midnight needs a move better than fucking stone edge to abuse its No Guard on. I suggest Iron Tail and maybe Hypnosis (might be too strong since Z-Hypnosis boosts speed...) Still though, it has the crazy swirly eyes like Watchog so it's not out of the question. Sucker Punch would help both Lycanrocs a lot.

The Oricorios all need STABS of their own types. No idea what to give them, though.

Guzzlord could be fun with Recycle. It'd have a super ghetto way of recovering with a Sitrus berry that way.

Earth Power on Nihilego, Solgaleo, and Lanala

>>31749234
>The Oricorios all need STABS of their own types. No idea what to give them, though.
What do you mean? Isn't that the whole gimmick of Revelation Dance?

>>31749463
But you can't Z-Move it. It becomes Breakneck Blitz, and that's no fun.

>>31749520
Oh, I had no idea.

>>31749234
...Both dogs already have sucker punch access. Still hoping for no guard head smash desu

>>31749577
Shit, how did I miss that? Sorry.

>>31748545
It uses the spoons.

>>31746549
>Primarina: Boomburst
252+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Boomburst vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 189-223 (29.4 - 34.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

Pretty sure you don't want that. Primarina just became suspect worthy in UU and Boomburst+LQ would kill any chances of it having a home.

>Silvally: Recover

The game lore says that Silvally was made using plants from Sinnoh, so there's a chance that it could get Synthesis instead. Both Celesteela and Xurkitree are also described to have a plant-like anatomy, so they could also get it.

>>31747215
GF please listen.

>>31750181
I'm pretty sure it would have a home in OU with Boomburst. Extremely powerful and safe move, even with that speed the pressure would be insane.

Belly Drum Bewear

>>31746568
>Seed Bomb

You mean Gunk Shot

Knock-off Pheromosa :^)

>>31749234
>Guzzlord could be fun with Recycle. It'd have a super ghetto way of recovering with a Sitrus berry that way.

You mean a 50% berry. Mago, Iapapa, etc.

Stuff like Uxie and Bronzong now have semi-reliable recovery with this. It fits Guzzlord perfectly, I'd actually be surprised if it DIDN'T get it when tutors roll around.

>>31750926
I'd prefer Seed Bomb for coverage but Gunk Shot works in place of Poison Jab.

>no one mentioning koko and bulu getting play rough
really?

>>31751981
>Wanting Tapus to be even better
Yes, really.

>>31746955

it makes sense for the others as well seeing as they all have sand related abilities.

the move is called sand gather in japanese.

Decidueye leech seed, sleep powder, shadow sneak,

>>31751981
It doesn't even help that much aside from Koko

>>31746571
>>31746588
obviously.
>>31748867
absolutely not.
you know what you did.
and if any of the tapus should get play rough, it should be koko.
just so people stop being fucking retarded using the stupid SpA set.

>>31747215
stop giving shit to kommo o like that
that's way too much

all he needs
drain punch
sludge bomb
iron head

also obviously shell smash would be good.

also - earth power gastrodon.

>>31754400
if koko got play rough he'd instantly be best tapu (even more than he already is) and people would finally stop using the god forsaken SpA set just because they cant get over having shitty HP Ice and Dazzling Gleam just to cover Garchomp.

Even though they have 5 other mons that cover Garchomp far better, and Scarf Chomp is too popular to rely on having Koko kill Chomp.

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What about Kalos mons?
>Barbaracle: Liquidation (better for Tough Claws than Shell Razor)
>Aurorus: Aurora Veil
>Malamar: Sucker Punch
>Meowstic Male: Me First (like Meowstic Female)
>Meowstic Female: Psychic Terrain

>Tsareena
Power Whip
Gunk Shot
Leech Seed
Quiver Dance

>>31755065
>physical moves
>special booster
What's the logic behind this?

>>31755072
cheese

Bewear:Drain Punch,Superpower,Beat Up,Head Smash,Sucker Punch
Incineroar:Fire Punch,Fire Lash,Suckerpunch,High Jump Kick,Flying Press
Lycanroc:Iron Tail,Sucker Punch,Earthquake,Superpower,Drain Punch,Beat Up,Cross Chop,Extreme Speed,Iron Head

>>31755239
Lycanroc already has Sucker Punch.
Most of these suggestion don't really fit flavourwise.

>>31755324
>Most of these suggestion don't really fit flavourwise.
literally how

>>31755362
Sucker Punch isn't an actual punch, for starters. It's a sneaky move. A galant boxing wrestler wouldn't do a sneaky move like that, it prefers Thoat Chops and Crunches.
Beat Up doesn't really fit with Bewear's oblivious stance in battle, and is a shit move anyway. Same with Head Smash, a move that clearly only certain head charge mons learn (and then Sudowoodo).
Fire Lash is a whip. Only Heatmor learns it because it's the only mon that creates whips of fire.
High Jump Kick and Flying Press sort of fit except Incineroar is supposed to be a dirty fighter. Flying Press could still work, though, even if it's a shit ass move.
Lycanroc doesn't really fit with punching or chopping moves. But I wouldn't be surprised if it got Superpower tho. It's not gonna get Extremespeed either becase that's obviously a very exclusive move.

>>31755072
speed and special defense boost too.

>>31755389
Incineroar can create fire whips with its belt.

>>31755568
I never saw that, in that case it could be a good move for it.

>>31755389
>a galant boxing wrestler
He's a heel. A heel would absolutely hit you while you were looking the other way. Surprise attack or sucker punch, it means the same thing and Incineroar would employ those tactics in battle as a heel.

>>31755621
I don't understand enough of English to get this and google translate isn't helping me. Wtf is a heel?

>>31755632
It's a type of wrestler meant to be a villain. He uses underhanded, dirty fighting tactics and generally earns the disdain of the audience, he contrasts the "Face" which is meant to be portrayed as honorable and heroic.
in short, Incineroar is the bad guy who would point behind you and hit the back of your head when you look away.

>>31755644
Well then Sucker Punch fits it. I thought it was supposed to be more glamorous and arrogant.

>>31755389
>Lycanroc doesn't really fit with punching or chopping moves.

Sure if you mean day,

>>31757088
Night isn't really a puncher either. Just a dumb looking standing dog.

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>>31757115
So what's lucario's excuse then going by that logic?

>>31757154
Lucario is a fighter that happens to have a dog face.

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>>31757169
And dog paws, dog feet, dog legs, dog tail...

>>31748093
A lot of these don't make sense

>>31757203
Zoroark doesn' learn punching moves either. It's all abouy style.

>>31757203

Lucario is a humanoid with some canine-like features, Midnight Lycanroc is a canine on two legs

>>31748093
I want Wish Primarina

>>31757224
I don't that's a completely fair comparison since zoroark is more of a trickster...and can't even learn brick break

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>>31757224

Zoroark is also not a full biped; it's often depicted running on all fours, as opposed to Lucario or Midnight Lycanroc who are always on two legs.

>>31757297
Lycanroc isn't always depicted on two legs either, since it has another 4 legged form. It can't learn punching moves because in the end it's just a wolf, while Lucario is a completely different anthropomorphic thing.

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>>31757320
Actually night dog is never on all fours unlike day dog

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>>31746549
Swampert: Liquidation, Shore Up

Not much love for wishiwashi?

>recover

>>31757362
That's what Alomomola is for silly

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>>31757320

Lycanroc can't switch forms though, they're effectively two different Pokemon who just happen to have the same name, and they already learn moves that the other can't (Accelerock and Counter).

The Midnight version is always on two legs and it learns Counter, so punching moves aren't unreasonable for it.

>>31746895
But lurantis is slower, hence it's just a shitty serperior. They should have given it something else so it had a niche

>>31757367
He needs some kind of help! Recover just seems like it would bandaid his low hp

>>31757348
Doesn't really look like a puncher or a brawler to me from that animation.

>>31757392
It does in it's battle animations. Specifically the one for physical attacks that aren't bite/crunch/fang related

>>31757442
Let's see what happens then. I've lost my hope with the pupper but part of me wants you to be right.

>>31752850
>Hippowdon has sand coming out from its body
>Tyranitar does not
>Excadrill does not

Can't gather sand if they don't have it.

>>31750030
>>31748545
no, it uses the stash

>>31748545
Same deal with Ice Punch Wooper.

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Give me that Boomburst, Game Freak.

>>31757348
Gorilla arm dog.

>>31759095
They're too scrawny to be gorilla arms silly...despite being stronger than physical kommo-o

Instruct is a tutor move now
What pokemon learn it

>>31759307
Salazzle and alakazam

>>31746549
Can you give type:null recover instead to make the eviolite set more viable?

>>31758652
Not happening. I like Primarina, but even I know it's not happening. Not with that high SpAtk and typing.

>>31759390
It deserves recover and parting shot.

>>31759416
You're probably right. I don't think it would be OP, there are still tons of ways to stop a slow water type special attacker, just really good. But it won't happen.

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>primarina learns quiver dance as an egg move
There I fixed primarina

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>>31760015
Why would Primarina fuck a bug?

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>>31760036
The same reason scrafty won't fug a dragon for dragon dance

>>31760073
Scrafty is in the dragon egg group tho.

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>>31746549

Tsareena - Stomping Tantrum

>>31760015
I think Primarina is one of the few Pokémon from Alola (UBs and Tapus not included) that doesn't really need fixing. It's pretty gud already.

>>31760103
...sh...shut up anon. I knew that.
>>31760161
I agree. Its the power/speed creep that needs to be fixed if anything. OU is more or less uber lite now

>>31754950
Barbaracle could use Accelerock as well.
So could a lot of other Rock types, but that is for another time.

Let me continue with this list by moving onto Unova mons:
>Crustle: Shore Up
>Scrafty: Sucker Punch
>Sigilyph and Druddiggon: Defog
>Audino: Softboiled
>Sawsbuck: Headbutt
>Eelektross, Escavalier and Durant: Leech Life
>Virizion: Horn Leech, Leech Seed, Bulk Up
>Kyurem: Ice Fang instead of Icy Wind so we can pretend Black Kyurem learns a decent physical Ice move

>>31746549
Air cutter returns to Drifblim pls?

>>31746955
Cacturne is full of sand too.

>>31746549
Nice copy paste responses
>Lol just give it knock off
>Le boomburst for everyone!!
>Give it all the priority moves!!!

>>31760326
I agree with most, if not all of these

>>31760431
No it isn't, it's full of water (yet...)

Alolan Dugtrio
Bullet Punch
Meteor Mash
Lava Plume
Shadow Claw

>>31746895
>that 113 speed
>also 5 more points in HP/DEF/SpD than Lurantis
Lurantis is just a worse Serperior senpai

>>31757819
I always thought Tyranitar's sand stream came from the little holes in his body

Excadrill is inexcusable though

>>31746549
Minior could get crazy with Accelrock/Feint/ESpeed and Roost at +1 priority.

>>31751281
>Not doing Chesto Resto over and over again.

>>31761335
>Rest
>Sleep Talk
>Recycle
>Gyro Ball

>>31760161
True. We're talking raw offensive strength, Primarina is the best one in terms of competitive use.

I just want Night Doggo to be good. Also something to make Silvally better, maybe some form of recovery.

>>31761868
People always defend the ugliest shitmons for some reason. Day doggo is pretty shit too you know?

>>31754950
Power Gem for Aurorus too

>>31761868
Arceus has recover by level-up. There's no reason for Type null not to have it. It makes eviolite viable, it makes Silvally not desperately want the lefties it can't have... why was it not a thing?!

Persian-Alola: Slack Off
Shedinja: Magic Coat
Malamar: Psycho Boost
Metagross: Heat Crash (play on words of a computer overheating and crashing)