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/vpwt/: Lovely roach edition

>Post your finds and ideas for prompts.
>Share your work and request critique.
>Discuss the struggle as a reader or writer.
IRC channel at [ #vpwritethread on irc.rizon.net ]

Previous: >>31610822

Fic catalogue:
>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PtN4D_9CSw8JJ9uO6v0oQqdtKEkS8aFAvfxqI96XfSE/edit?usp=sharing

Authors and/or anons looking for things to write can look through the ideabin here for something good.
Feel free to request ideas be put here.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X072SSWulcC6RJRrPA6v9XtyohRybvMBl6Fh49wHsRw

FAQ:
>Posting fics?
Link to Pastebin, FFN, AO3, or G-Docs, etc. Don't write stories to the thread itself.

>NSFW fics?
Links are permitted. Do label as such.

>Add my fic to the catalogue?
You're free to do so. Please use the submission form found inside the catalogue

>What's with the tripfags?
Authors are encouraged to put on a trip while posting or discussing their content, as it makes discussing their works easier.

Topic Of The Thread: Which Pokémon is in dire need of a fic? What would it be about?
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>NEW FICS

Ultra Beast Memes
http://pastebin.com/fN9YqBWJ

Disastermon Primarina NSFW
http://pastebin.com/qGUYMTCA

Gladion Bullying + Taco Bell
http://pastebin.com/a2DmVHEH

Pheromosa ayylien /ss/
http://pastebin.com/EKxBa37L

Gladion Type:Null thug-lyfe on their mom's credit card
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12357709/1/Silver-Bird

>UPDATED FICS

Fledgelings side-update
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/46/Fledglings // http://archiveofourown.org/works/3465593/chapters/21569492

Vines of Deceit CH2
http://archiveofourown.org/works/9294437/chapters/21594155

The Dark Type CH6
http://archiveofourown.org/works/9113758/chapters/21784727


>Correct me if wrong things ya
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>>31737157
Alternate UB memes ending is best ending
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Ok, so I had an idea for this story of mine. There's this song that I'd like to repurpose for my story. I just want to change some of the lyrics around, to create a picture for the reader. Would that be ok, or should I write something original. It's not like I couldn't but I just really like this song and I feel like it would work well for what I'm doing.
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I'm looking for Hoenn novelizations. I'd appreciate any that blend elements of ORAS and Emerald, but any decently written that are either complete or fairly long and regularly updated are fine.
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>Have idea
>Plan out fic
>Have time
>Can't be motivated to work on it instead of being on /vp/
Any help?
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>>31738095
I'd advise against writing stories that directly use song lyrics from other songs.
A story based on the song could do, or making up your own works too, but things get iffy when you twist around actual lyrics to put into the story.

I'd also suggest against putting a YouTube link anywhere in your story unless it is at the author's note.

>>31738108
Guess this means you found what you were looking for in XY novels?

>>31738135
Sometimes you have to force yourself to sit down and write when you don't want to, or do it immediately after feeling a spark
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>>31738135
If you really want to write the story, you'll make the time. You'll find the motivation welling up inside you and the words flying onto the screen. So tell me, Anon. Why are you writing this story? Is it really something you want to write?
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>>31738150
Damn. I'm no lyricist. This will take a minute.
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>>31738095
On one hand we could tussle with the mess that is copyright law, how lyrics get preferential treatment, etc., but more useful to you will probably be a thought not about what you think is a solution, but what's really your problem to solve, so let's be satisfied acknowledging that citing any block of lyrics such that it would be recognized as such is stepping near the third rail.

Music is cool and it can inspire good writing, but there are two fundamental complications when trying to integrate it into literature.

• Literature and music are different experiences. You're not singing to us; rather, you're asking us to recall the song sung, and to do that…
• We readers must know the song you're referencing or what makes it music rather than poetry is absent and we must stop reading your story (a bad thing to have happen, nay?) to find the tune, should we be accommodating of your diversion.

Consideration 1: Since music without sound is poetry (or silence), at best you're going to be able to communicate poetry with this effort, so instead of thinking if this song (or a mangling of it) would "work well," think if a passage of poetry is reasonable in this place, and then what poetry would not merely "work well," but communicate both the meaning of the song you "really like," but also the emotion that its tune would impart were it audible.
Consideration 2: Check your motivation, especially if the previous consideration proves bothersome. Is including this "I just really like this" a means to decorate or enhance what you've written, or is it a means to fill in a deficiency with what is, in your mind, a sure-thing?
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>>31738422
Alright, alright. I've already started writing my own lyrics.

It's hard, but admittedly more fun. It's a damn shame no one can hear this catchy tune I'm imagining.
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>>31738437
>It's a damn shame I can't hear this catchy tune I'm imagining.
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>>31738530
Pfft. Ha.
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>>31738150
Actually, there are no XY novels.
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Alright. I finished the song. The tune for it is... a Frankenstein mashup of like two disney songs and a south park song.

But I think it'll do it's job of complimenting the story well enough.
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>>31739035
>a Frankenstein mashup of like two disney songs and a south park song.
"Be our guest under the sea, uncle fucker"?
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>>31739174
Mmm, more like

>You'll never have a friend that says you're welcome to queef free

But that is also good.
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>>31739174
How about "Hakuna Matata Up There, A Whole New World?"
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>tfw the longest story I'll ever write will be a SFW musical featuring Lurantis
Christ. I've been working on this thing since like 3 in the afternoon. I hoped I'd get it done before the night was over but there's just no way.

I'm calling it quits for now. But it's coming along, I guess.
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So my story has come along nicely, even uploaded the first chapter and everything but I'm having second thoughts on the concept, which is:

Guilds, which are basically the ruling "government" of regional portions of the continent, have forced a mass exodus (twice) of Dark-types following a period of strife involving them in the name of peace and now they must live in what is akin to Siberia. Story follows how they survive and what they must do to continue to survive, daily lives, social changes, the history of why and how, etc. etc. with the occasional chapter viewing the rest of the continent and how the guilds are doing.

Here's the first chapter for reference: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12359877/1/Donker-Samenleving
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Tomorrow's cherish day now
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>>31741039
And what might that second thought be?

>link
I glanced at the first couple of shots. Strengthen your narration. Were it any more vague (or presumptive of the reader already knowing about your setting), this would be a script without the slug lines.
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>>31737080
Correction Pheromosa is based on a Copephod I guess.
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Sorry for this stupid question. But what pokemon do you think would survive inside a fussion reactor.
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>>31744008
Probably none of them. Extreme radiation and heat are things you don't want to fuck around with.
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>>31737996
Am the guy that wrote it. glad to know you liked it.
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>>31744008
Rayquaza, because he's Rayquaza.

No, really, more seriously, >>31744125 . I could take some Bug-types being able to survive short periods of time in there. But as with most things radiation, what kills is not the exposure, but the dose.
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>>31743161

>And what might that second thought be?

That it's a little too complicated and involves a bit too many elements and would involve a copious amount of world-building.
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Can anyone link some so-bad-they're-hilarious or so-bad-they're-really-really-bad fanfiction.net stories that you've all come across? I want to do a marathon.
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Some suggestion about this: I have been playing COD. So I have a vage idea for a fic.
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>>31746473
Narrow your scope.

Apparently you have two characters: One, a sample unit of The Dark Types, and Two, The Guilds.

Pick a main character among that sample and stay close, and portray that character's life, beginning with his means of survival, and as he interacts with the other members of the unit, allow the scope to expand through them. In the second act, widen enough to show that there is an outside influence (The Guilds) that matters, and about midway let there be a characterization of them (a specific nemesis, faceless or portrayed) through which, again, the scope expands. By the climax, the MC would be an avatar for The Dark Types, and the nemesis would be an avatar for The Guilds.

Follow this path, using only as much world building and backstory as you need to keep the story interesting. If there's a lot left over, that's fine; it can be fuel for a sequel, and if you see that as feasible while writing this, you can plant some foreshadowing and lay a foundation for that sequel, such as mentioning a character who we only see from a distance here but can be a main character in a sequel showing this world from The Guild's perspective.
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>>31747499
>playing cod
You can tune a fish?
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>>31747527
This certainly helps and it kinda explains why the first chapter feels so rough- I'm mixing both too much aren't I?

Time to play the cut, copy and paste game.
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>>31748470
Literature is about communicating an experience (real or imagined) through text. World-building truly doesn't belong unless it's also being experienced. As authors, we face the challenge of establishment, which is not about explaining things but about communicating factors that will ensure the reader can see through our characters' eyes.

A tyro writer often makes a mistake of this. He has a Great Vision and wants to share it, having enjoyed the "world building" (truly, imaginative spit-balling) process. So he feels pressure early to infodump. This is a mistake because it's the author telling where his mind is now, not telling the story of his character through his character.

What I see here, however, is worse than infodumping: You're fumbling your establishment such that it's difficult for the reader to imagine in real time.

>"Move, move!"
Who's shouting? (Exclamation point indicates shouting.)
>The hushed whisper pierced the black of night
Which hushed whisper? (But not in this case, I guess.) Did it sound without a speaker?
> as a small group of cats, with dark blue fur
You're probably meaning "sneasels" but you're not saying that. After establishing what they are, you can broaden your vocabulary, but for a first impression, if you say "cat," you must mean "cat."
>…The one in front was holding something long and thin in its hands … parting the bushes using it. When the faded light of the setting sun came through, it could be seen that in fact, the object was a rifle.
Seen by who? I thought it was nighttime—what faded light? Are you implying that the cats don't know what it is, or that we the audience needed to not explicitly know that it's a rifle for two half-sentences before the reveal? (What a twist!)
>He took a sharp and ragged breath as he stared at the young girl before him, tears in her eyes.
So the cats are escorting a human? Or are these anthropomorphic cats? Or the cast of Cats after being finally chased off of Broadway?

(Continued.)
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You write what you see, which is good, but you're not considering what the blank-minded reader is going to imagine, filling the gaps as you build this scene.

Take 2:
Hunching low and moving stealthily, like a band stalking prey, a small group of sneasels skulked through dense underbrush. Their leader, armed with a rifle that right now served only to help part the bushes choking this one and many others of Ainapia's forests, surveyed the way ahead with a sniff of the air and a glance at whatever his dark-adapted vision could reveal in this black-as-pitch night. He gestured with one extended claw and whispered, "Move, move."

Pressing forward he listened to the faint steps his followers took. They were slowing, and needed encouragement.

"Come on. We're almost out of their hands. A few kilometers more."

A distant voice, but one the leader recognized intimately, called out from the end of the line.

"I—I can't. I'm too tired, Daddy." Whimpering and breathless, the littlest sneasel in the group leaned against a tree. The march stopped as their leader fell back.

"I know you're tired, but we have to go. If we don't," he said, pausing to invite his daughter to remember why.

"The monsters will catch us."

" 'Monsters' is right," interjected one of the followers. "Merciless and uncivilized."

A second added with a nervous chuckle, "Murderers of the innocent, and they say we're the problem."

"Innocent Dark-types," the first clarified.

The second shook his head. "I guess there's no such thing when you're born with a bounty on your hide."

The leader shushed them, and wished in vain that his girl were young enough not to understand that someone would kill her for a stipend. He kissed her on the top of her head. "Let's go. We can stop and rest soon." She asked, again, about her mother. Again, he asserted that, "She'll be back." He signaled his followers to press on. One nodded and assumed command, whispering, "Don't die, Niklas," before walking to the front of the line.
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Notice foremost that the early sentences focus on visualization. You're getting their posture, stride, intention to be unnoticed, phenotype, a "visual" verb, and their surroundings all in one sentence—this is about the sneasels. Your draft made "The hushed whipser" (not visual) the protagonist of the first sentence, and it was piercing "the black of night," which is visual only in that it's too dark to see anything. (I'm ignoring that the true first sentence is a disembodied voice.) Paragraph One is your whole story's first impression: fill that reader's mind with a quickly painted scene, not with a noise and a blank backdrop.

I've tucked the infodumping into relevant passages. The name of the location is given, but it rides in the caboose of the sentence that is establishing why the rifle is currently more useful as a pilot than as a weapon. Were it cumbersome, I would have no qualm removing the location name, since if it matters it'll come up again. Really, it's here only so the reader will recognize the word later (if imprecisely) and can connect the dots, and to give the forest a smidgen of personality.

I spent a little more time with Leader, because as the first character seen, he needs to be important. Even if he's not long-term important, he's the protagonist of this scene (indeed, he's at that moment the only character We The Audience know of) so let's let him act out some verbs and communicate his mental state, at least if not his personality.

Finally, I slimmed the backstory-aside from the Other Followers. Each got a statement and a rebuttal; that's revealing four sides to the problem that motivates the story, more than enough for a scene not about that story-long problem, but a chapter-long problem that has them moving through the forest. So, I get back to Leader & Daughter as soon as the Dark-v-The World motif is clear, and close this opening action by showing Leader choosing to pass that title to another so he can put on his Daddy hat. (Then, 2k.)
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>>31749894
>>31749627
>>31749611

This is absolutely the most help I've ever had literary wise.
Honestly, I've mostly been writing by observing other works and trying to learn the right and wrong from that but as you've seen, it ain't that good. I write ahead of my thoughts sometimes and squish too much into to little too often, admittedly.

Your advice is incredible; thanks for taking the time to write all that.

Hopefully, I can recreate the whole first chapter to be about one thing (escape) instead of just random pieces as re-reading it multiple times has even gotten me lost, I admit.
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>>31744008
possibly some ghost types, but I doubt it.

High tier psychic types may be able to shield themselves, if they're powerful and fast enough as well as smart enough to know what's going on.

Rayquaza possibly because going into space exposes you to much higher doses of radiation without our atmosphere/space suit to protect you. Though a fusion reactor is much worse than space.

The Regis probably. Rock can replace any too damaged pieces of himself, Steel is literally made from metal that is stronger than any other. He'd probably make a great radiation suit...and Regice is made of ice that can submerge itself in god damn lava and not even start to drip. Regice is prolly gonna survive sun going supernova.

Eevee evolves due to exposure to irradiated rocks. I wouldn't be surprised at all if an eevee exposed to a reactor would evolve.

Suicune maybe with it's purification abilities. Though the exposure would probably still kill it eventually.
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>>31747566
When I rise to power, people that make dad jokes will be the first in line to meet a firing squad.
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>>31750621
>This is absolutely the most help I've ever had literary wise. … Your advice is incredible; thanks for taking the time to write all that.
I appreciate your gratitude and compliment, but I can't help feeling bad that with the vast internet stretching out before you in all virtual dimensions, the first tiny gold nugget is found in a 4chin backwater general that can't stay off of Page 10 without aid.

>the whole first chapter to be about one thing (escape)
A good goal to set. "Simple" isn't always exciting, but it's safe, and you'll never win over more readers by being interestingly complicated than you'll lose forever by confusing them in the first act. Confusing the reader or pulling rugs from beneath them is a middle-act move.
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>>31744008

A fusion reactor? Why not a fission reactor, something that's already been in existence for the past 60+ years and doesn't require a an advanced degree in nuclear physics to understand how these things actually work? Fusion reactors are still in the realm of theoretical science due to the enormous amount of energy and pressure required to produce a fusion reaction and the difficulty in producing more energy than is put into the process.

The closest thing we have now to a "working" fusion reactor is the Wendelstein 7-X experiment in Germany. If this model is anything to go by, then the main issues they'd face are that fusion reactors are both incredibly hot (the plasma is heated to millions of degrees Celsius, comparable to the inside of a star) and highly radioactive. Therefore we want a Pokemon that can endure extreme heat and resist radiation as much as possible. If we are to assume that the metal coating on Steel-types has a similar shielding effect on average to steel in real life (every 4 inches of steel cuts radiation by around 90%) then a large steel type with a thick hide has the best shot at reducing the damage done. This isn't to say that they can live comfortably inside a reactor, but it may save them from having their internal organs vaporized instantly. There's also the issue of the inside highly pressurized Helium, pretty much making it impossible to breathe, but we'll assume for the sake of argument that whoever is going in there is also really good at holding their breath. Finally these reactors require carefully constructed magnetic fields to direct and isolate the plasma flow, but I do not think these fields are strong enough to negatively affect the Pokemon.

My candidate for going inside is Heatran, who is as close to immune to heat damage as a Pokemon can get, and has enough molten steel bulk to minimize the impact of neutron radiation.
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Almost there

Here's an excuse to post a video of a Scout that isn't the screaming one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNWDjJTGV1o
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The real question's if I learned anything from the grammatical success of the last chapter (probably not)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/116tkKITFisei-BmgYpczAVenIxZWqCNvwNdLan93K0I/edit?usp=sharing
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in your opinon(s), how acceptable is it to use "pokéfied" phrases?

>it's raining purrloin and lillipup
>she took the luxray's share of the attention
>embarrassing herself on regional tv

Is this justifiable in-universe? Or is it too corny to shoehorn in vocabulary like this?
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>>31753444
good overall, but

>she took the luxray's share of the attention

I assume lions already exist in the pokemon world.
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>>31753444
At most, I'll go Spinarak's web instead of spider's, even though spider are a word that makes sense still for a certain type of pokemon. Personally, I hate the shit out of most altered phrases like that, especially if it replaces god with Arceus because that's just plain gay.
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>>31753523
>especially if it replaces god with Arceus because that's just plain gay.

>all those dumb as fuck fan games where people say that

Makes me both cringe and angry. I'd likely stop playing too, unless the game is particularly good.
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>>31753536
>>31753523
Why does the mention of our one true lord and savior, Arceus, bother you?
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>>31753538
cause someone saying "oh my Arceus" or "Arceus Damnit" sounds cringe as fuck.

Especially when the name "God" already exists in universe.
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>>31753444
It does sound corny if you ask me, but it's not enough to kill a story. That said, I feel like there are times when using normal, real life phrases would suffice.

For example, "Raining cats and dogs" might still work, because there are many "cat" Pokemon and many "dog" Pokemon. When it comes to my own head canon, I believe that humans in the Pokemon world would use certain words as blanket terms to refer to specific groups of Pokemon that share characteristics, such as "dog" to refer to canine Pokemon and "cat" for felines. That way, those blanket terms can be used instead of specific references to certain species.

With that head canon, "raining cats and dogs" would make sense in-universe, and so would other phrases of a similar nature.

>>31753523
Speaking of spiders, there's actually a move called "Spider Web", so I think "spider" would be a canonically acceptable word to use.
And speaking of Arceus, would you consider replacing "god" with "Arceus" to be acceptable if the characters actually do worship Arceus as a god? Or would you prefer if the word "god" was kept regardless?
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>>31753554
>would you consider replacing "god" with "Arceus" to be acceptable if the characters actually do worship Arceus as a god?

God no.

That's 13 year old edge tier cringe trash.
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>>31753444
I feel like both ways make absolute sense, so I guess just pick one and be consistent?

>>31750826
>High tier psychic types may be able to shield themselves,
Unless they are quite above Jean Grey's level and breadth of psychics, no, they likely won't. And it didn't really end up that well for her, even. Just because you're psychic doesn't mean you can manipulate atoms and electrons at the almost individual level, on real time, with a response time good enough. (And if putting up a barrier was enough, any mon with Protect could)

>Rayquaza
will eat that shit for breakfast... or, more likely, blow it to smithereens from a safe shooting distance. Now you have two problems. Buh-bye.

>Eevees
>Nuclea stuff
>inb4 Pokémon Uranium Eeveelution
(never played the game, so I don't know if there's even one)
Honestly this one I can almost totally see working.

>Suicune
Its purification abilities are pretty much stated and shown to only work on water, and even then it mostly purifies the water rather than being able to heal its own body.
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>>31753586
>Unless they are quite above Jean Grey's level and breadth of psychics, no, they likely won't. And it didn't really end up that well for her, even. Just because you're psychic doesn't mean you can manipulate atoms and electrons at the almost individual level, on real time, with a response time good enough. (And if putting up a barrier was enough, any mon with Protect could)

>comicbook psychics rules apply to pokemon

Stop it.
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>>31750826
>an eevee exposed to a reactor would evolve
Introducing the newest Eeveelution: Nucleon
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>>31753624
>Nucleon
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>>31744008
I guess the "type" of a fission reactor would be fire/poison, so maybe some powerful fire or poison types could survive?
>poison type based on radiation never
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>>31753554
The god of christianity has a name, no?
We still call him god
No reason to mix all that up
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>>31753665
>implying people in the pokemon world are christian
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>>31753665
Yahweh, Elohim, Jehovah.

Take your pick.

>>31753685
you're an idiot.
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>>31753694
ur mums an idiot
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>>31753705
you got me
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>>31753444

it sounds really fuckin corny especially that "Arceus-damnit" shit, I mean really if you gonna have pokefied versions of cliche phrases why not just invent new phrases entirely
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>>31751898
>I appreciate your gratitude and compliment, but I can't help feeling bad that with the vast internet stretching out before you in all virtual dimensions, the first tiny gold nugget is found in a 4chin backwater general that can't stay off of Page 10 without aid.

What I should say is that it's some the best I've had so far; not that I've never read anything else that would help or gotten help from other people.

Onto a different topic, what would be a good demeaning term for every type? Like boat sinker for ice-types.
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>>31753624

if Uranium didn't already do this I'd find this suggestion cute and original
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>>31753992
To take a page from Bionicle, perhaps a Fire-type could be called "fire-spitter". As for the other types, it's too late at night for me to give it enough thought. I guess Flying-types could be "airheads", but that's all I've got for now.

>>31753994
>implying it's not cute and original by its own merits
Come on, throw me a freakin' bone here
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>>31753992
>what would be a good demeaning term for every type? Like boat sinker for ice-types.
Shipping schedules have been devastated now that Lapras population numbers have improved and they migrate around in pods, sinking ships and surfing the sailors to safety. They think that they're helping.
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Bunp
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>>31754335
bonkle
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>>31760155
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https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12315665/1/Alolan-Love

Here's something I've been working on :)
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>>31753585
>>31753665
Literally this. God is a noun.
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I want to write a fic about Acerola. But I'm not sure where to start.
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>>31761791
well what other characters do you want in it? What kind of story do you want to write? Porn or not?
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>>31761905
I'm thinking of having the other captains in there.
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>>31753552
I would like to do a fic about a crazy bioengineer. Someone that want to make a plage on pokemon world.
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Sorry but I have reading the FAQ but I want to post a paperwork a prototype of fic.

-Log 100000.01.01
//Restarting System//
//Checking vital sys//
//Antimatter main reactor online and at 10%//
//Secondary Fussion Reactor Online and at standby//
//Vital Support Stand by//
//Pod Support Online//
//Bot network Online//
//Shields at 65%//
//Warning Hull damaged by micrometeorites// Repairing...
//Non essencial systems Online//
//Prepairing to leave hyperstasis//
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>>31763133
>Link to Pastebin, FFN, AO3, or G-Docs, etc. Don't write stories to the thread itself.
pastebin.com
Easy clicks to save posting space anon
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>>31762174
So a story about her wanting to be the next kahuna
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Morning
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Last night I dreamt that I posted a request in the write thread, so here it is I guess?

>Requesting a short story about Cynthia trying to fug Dawn, but Dawn completely ignoring her and instead trying to hug Cynthia's Togekiss
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Newfag here with ideas, what's the best site to write fanfics
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>>31769390
A word processing program

You mean post fanfics? Maybe FF.net or AO3. Depends on your personal preferences.
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>>31769390
FFN for viewership.
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>>31769390
FFN has the most traffic, but you may get zapped if you go too overtly explicit. Its interfaces are rudimentary. Has a PM system and comments ("reviews") per story.
AO3 has far less traffic, and explicit content is fine should you tag it appropriately, including a don't-want-to-spoil-with-tags option. Its interfaces are well-designed and most of them work. No PM system, only per-chapter comment threads.
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>>31769390

For writing, LibreOffice because it's free.

For posting, as said FFN is best for mass viewership.
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Requesting Tapu Lele going yandere for Olivia when she actually finds a man that likes her.
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Is politically correct to create a new thread for a proto fic only because I don't have any acount on FFN or AO3?
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>>31772484
P A S T E B I N
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>>31772484
Pastebin doesn't require an account
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>>31771591
My headcanon is that she keeps Olivia single so she's nice and fresh for the day Lele fucks her
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>>31774146
Up

and away!
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>>31771591
>>31772805
I'm going to disembowel Tapu Lele!
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>>31769390
There's lots of sites, so it mostly depends on what you're chasing after, or if you already have a preexisting account somewhere.

For viewership, FF.net, it has relatively good search and categorization, but your work is gonna quickly fall down the first pages and into obscurity unless it's a progressing story. I wouldn't really recommend it for oneshots. Also formatting is tremendously restricted so if you want to do anything more ornamented than what would show up in a Notepad.exe, I'd look elsewhere.

I could probably speak about AO3...
...if I could sign up into it! ¬¬
But no, sorry, no opinion there except "don't overuse tags".

Then there's fandom-specific communities such as PokéCommunity, BMGF, BBS and Serebii. Of those, PokéCommunity offers the best experience in terms of formatting and presentation of the work, but the potential audience is inactive as molasses - you'll get more reviews in FF.net, actually both good and "writ moar". Serebii is good and tends to have good discussions on content, but for the same cost and better tagging you could just post on AO3. I don't even understand if or how BMGF works, I only posted there once and it was like sending radio signals to a black hole.
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>>31776224
>if I could sign up into it
Do you have some issue with making an account there?
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noticed this today- https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12364837/1/in-time

I wonder how many mohn/lusamine angstfics we gonna get in an attempt to make lusamine more sympathetic
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>>31776335
you know, I hope she comes back in a future game, but knowing GF it's gonna be for a single battle/cameo and there will be less than zero character development.
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>Tott
Beartic most assuredly. This big bastard only has 3 fics on the cancerous fanficdotnet website. Two of which are very badly written smut fics. So by law this pokemon is legally held responsible to have at least 12 good fics.
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I need to find a much better time than the middle of the night into early morning to write while i contemplate my addiction to video games
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>>31776677
they're not even good games anymore either, just south korean gambling-meta simulators that suck your soul out from under you in order to fund their ponzy scheme of hooking more players into the fifth circle of self-abuse hell, where no savior or redeemer can rescue because you're having too much fun thinking this shit is fun.
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>>31776692
>no savior or redeemer can rescue because you're having too much fun thinking this shit is fun.

Fuck, man. That hits hard.

Diablo 3. I really should go back to 2. At least that was a decent game.
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Man the Flu sucks, I can't write while sick, yet I want to badly, oh well... I see all of you writers are still being gods, how do you do it?
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>>31777471
because we aren't weak.

Toughen the fuck up. Most people get sick and continue on with their boring ass, crappy jobs, lives and hobbies.

Stop being a faggot and start writting.
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>>31776313
I started trying to sign up two / three years ago via their invite system. The e-mail with the invite never arrives, and when I ask about my account in their system it just says it's not registered. No matter which one of my accounts I use. I even tried with disposable ones like mailinator for scrutiny.

tl;dr: not having the time-approved, ISO Standard signup page sucks.

>ToTT
Fearow. Lovely bird, actually. Needs moar screentime very definitively. I started writing for it in an RP thanks to someone in the same group of writers we had with Unown, but dont remember exactly who. Character turned out very lovable.

Also probably Grumpig. I mean, actually, I can't even remember having seen a fic anywhere with a Grumpig character that is not just a character prop.


>>31777471
>Can't write while flu
What is this, the 1540s?
Sit on your bed, pen and paper in hand. That's never failed anyone.
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>>31777643
>a Grumpig character that is not just a character prop.
I have one as a supporting cast member in Eternally Vernal. He's not a star but he does have a few lines and a plot function split across two chapters.
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>>31776677
I feel you, it's the only time where I'm not dying of embarrassment because my brain is too tired to give a fuck.
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>>31777643
Well shit, I got my invite in just a few days.

And I guess the system of registered users sending out invites isn't a thing anymore either, or I'd send one your way.

>>31737080
>Topic Of The Thread
I haven't gone and read much in a long time so I don't really know what has and hasn't been done.
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>>31777945
That's a reminder for me to get to read your work then! Thanks!

Also, I just woke up from a mostly bad night due to overnap and ensuing headache, to realize I've hit a particular problem.

That Nido Valentine's story I was working on, is going mostly okay... except for the problem it has grown up too much without me noticing.

The first one I wrote was bareky over 2k words. This one, originally intended to be like 3k words, is about to reach the 7k barrier counting both finalized scenes and fragments in progress.

For all practical purposes, it's not gonna be done today. I have to weigh my choices for the overgrowth here.

I could turn it into a two-shot which is the thing most likely to work (setting the second part's release date for eg.: Friday or something), or I could just drop parts of the story altogether (I'd rather not tho, that as it's what tends to cost me for contests and stuff).

Or I could just toss the whole thing into the trash it goes.jpeg because the chick I want doesn't want me back. I mean, I *am* working on fics and stuff on Valentine's...

>inb4 asking a bunch of vidya-playing manchildren for their opinion in this fine day
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>>31778649
Opinion on what? Life, love and the pursuit of the fairer sex?
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>>31778649
>the 7k barrier
>barrier
The only limit is yourself… at zombo.com.

>the chick I want doesn't want me back
Probably, your bulge isn't large enough. You need to stuff your wallet with so much cash that its girth cannot be denied.

>inb4 asking a bunch of vidya-playing manchildren for their opinion in this fine day
Vidya-playing manchildren are the only people here to answer your question.
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>>31779305
No, on global economics and long-term leasing projects.

>>31779361
>breaking the barrier
I'd have no problem if this was any other work, but the idea here was to make a short one-shot that was exclusively d'awwwwness and did not focus on plot and stuff.

Fission mailed tho. :p
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>>31779776
Leave both to the experts so you have someone to blame when it goes up in flames.
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Alright, I've been doing some writing and I've come up with some questions about point of view and perspective and such.

Let's say I'm writing a third-person story with multiple protagonists, who sometimes are separate and off doing their own things but also can come together. The narration focuses on different characters at different times, going into every one of their heads to explain their thoughts (which I think makes it "omniscient" but correct me if I'm wrong).
As such, it frequently moves between the characters, and no one character gets a significantly larger amount of attention than the others.

My questions are this: is this a good way to write?
Is it a good idea to shift between multiple characters' thoughts throughout the story, or is that commonly considered bad form?
Is it acceptable if the focus change only happens when the scene changes, and unacceptable if it happens during one scene?

For example, if I wrote something like this:
>"Are you sure your plan will work?" Alice asked Bob. She hoped he would say yes, because she could think of no alternatives to his idea.
>Bob, meanwhile, hesitated. He wanted to act confident, but even he was starting to doubt his own plan.
...would that be okay, or would it work better to only look at one of their thoughts?

Personally, I feel like it could go either way, which is why I want to hear other opinions. Explaining multiple characters' thoughts and reactions during one scene can help you understand those characters better, but it might also get confusing or disorderly.
Looking this topic up on the internet gave me mixed responses, so I wanted to put it before you guys and hear your thoughts (though I won't be able to read them or reply right away because I'll be busy for the next 90 minutes or so).

And in case you're wondering, yes, the reason I'm asking is because what I'm writing does this kind of perspective shifting, often within single scenes, and I'm trying to figure out if it's a problem.
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>>31781372
It probably works a lot better in film than literature.
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>>31781372
Eh, I'd say nay. Going in to other people's heads like that kinda feels like spoiling to an extent, especially upon a response that quick. It could work better of those perspective shifts happen every chapter or so rather than during dialog.
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>>31781372
You have the gist of it, but worry more about the portrayal of experience.

Example+:
>Alice glanced away from Bob, taking a shallow breath and holding it. His idea didn't give her hope, but she figured that she'd turn blue before she thought of a better alternative. "Are you sure your plan will work?" she asked, with a critical tone.
>Bob opened his mouth and let half of a vowel out before finishing his response of, "Yeah." Recalling the last time she acted on one of his ideas, he wished that either he could take that word back, or that she wasn't so regularly right to question his judgment. Either would do, but neither would.

Show Don't Tell. Portray the body language, and show why they act as they do; the "what they do" gets wrapped up in it and prevents your writing from being "A said 'X' because M. B said 'Z' because N" as your example appeared.

You do want a consistent POV to start a shot and to hold it as steady as feasible, and often it's expressed in terms of a POV character. In this example moment, the POV character is actually the decision that Alice and Bob are coming to and each of their motivations in the moment combine to form the negotiation that is shaping that decision. A little bit of Omniscient is okay as long as it's relevant, interesting, and is also revealing more about the Alice+Bob relationship, but if you don't find direction, your narration will get ugly fast. Notice that I ended those two lines with a tombstone statement that blocks any further narrator rambling: the next paragraph must pick a new POV and begin showing A+B acting on their choice.

Also keep in mind pacing concerns: You don't want Narrator explaining C's behaviors in terms of philosophical musings during a sword-fight.
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>>31781968
So, you think it would be ideal to make one character have the focus for as long as possible, but changing the focus and looking into other characters' minds isn't inherently bad so long as it's "revealing" and "interesting"?

If that's so, then it seems like I've got two "no" responses and one "maybe" response overall. With them in mind, I believe the best course of action is to minimize the amount of times such focus shifts happen, trying to maintain one POV and only changing when it's very important to the story. Or simply wait until scenes or chapters change, like what the second anon suggested, before making a shift, which could make it flow better.

Also, I feel I should mention that the example I gave wasn't part of my story, in case that's what you were thinking; it was just something I threw together for that post, to convey the basic idea of what I was talking about. I know I ought to portray the experience in more detail than that (even though I still find it hard to do so in practice). It was just a sort of proof of concept more than anything.
But still, I do want to thank you for rewriting it. It's interesting to look at the differences and see how much more descriptive yours is, and the ways you made it so.
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>>31781968
>You do want a consistent POV to start a shot and to hold it as steady as feasible
>>31782808
>So, you think it would be ideal to make one character have the focus for as long as possible
No. If that were what I had meant, then that is what I would have said.

As the author, your objective is to communicate the experience you've imagined to your reader. You face limitations and complications and to prevail, you must choose compromises. Sometimes, you may decide that it will better communicate the experience if you break the POV guideline. Other times, that may be too jarring, or you may choose to find another way to communicate the detail in question. By "revealing" I speak of the narration not wasting your reader's time, by "interesting," I speak of encouraging your reader to keep reading. Things that are "against the rules" are so because they, at once or over time, dismay readers.

"Only one speaker's dialogue may be quoted in a paragraph" is another rule. But occasionally it's broken—if you have a group of people speaking as one, it MAY be reasonable to group their comments in one paragraph, thus making The Group the character. I chose this path with Dodrio Ticket Agent in LL20. What matters is that the rule is broken intentionally to communicate something between the lines: it communicates the experience of listening to three voices airing different thoughts on the same topic during one conversational turn. It's purposeful, and it's a small dose.

If you understand these trade-offs, you will be able to choose a reasonable path. You may choose to write "by the book," but that too is a trade-off and compromise. I advise against putting more thought into literary rules than into writing an engaging story, whatever form it takes, but you should write however you like.

>the example
…was fine: its blunt form creates contrast when compared against a refining treatment. Also, some people may write like that and not realize it till seeing it hence. :)
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>>31761526
It's pretty good.
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guess everybody's too tired from valentines
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>>31789052
Tired feeling sorry for ourselves on Valentine's.
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>>31789052
>>31789052
everybody's been tired for a while now
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>>31789052
I'm hungover from drinking too much while thinking about Valentines
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>>31789052
I've been quietly working on ACPC7. I was gonna write something for Valentine's day, but nothing really struck me.
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>>31789052

I'm trying to clean up the first chapter of DS. Hopefully, I can replace it FFN soon and upload on AO3 as well.

I don't do romance all too well sadly- which sucks because all that time playing CoC has helped when it comes to smut when I do write to test myself.
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>>31781372
In the end multiple protagonists can drag a story down if there's too much to focus on. But that doesn't mean it can't work. One piece of literature that comes to mind straight away is Of Mice and Men.
But in terms of presenting these protagonists, the story has to have a clear focus. Think of it like a target for shooting practice. You have your middle, which is the focus, the main character. You have the inner ring which is the characters around him (which can also include the other protagonists,) events for the story to progress, the side characters. The outer rings can represent the setting or the background plot that makes up this world of yours, the exposition and so forth. Keep in mind that each chapter has to stand on its own. A good example is to think of them all as small stories, that when held together make a coherent plot. You have to make sure each character you introduce as a protagonist (the focus) can stand on their own if you choose to have the next chapter be about protag number two.
In terms of how you write, your doing third person omniscient. The reader is god looking down at what these mortals are doing. You as the writer have control over what god can and cant see, and most of the time this god doesnt want to see everything. This is where you can keep things hidden that would otherwise be noticeable by the omniscient reader. You can keep certain elements hidden in order to keep suspense and surprises until later on in the story.
Now if you really want to get god's heart beating you can have each chapter focus on one protag at a time, and once the reader is hooked the climax can have both characters in the same chapter and constantly switching between them until some main event forces them to be in the same focus (room ect.)
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>>31787350
mimiga where you at I thought you wanted more feedback
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How to put an alien like advanced specie made of nanotech synths? Like a character. I mean. This alien character is a human from a very advanced human civ and bored of the decadent people aroud him. Uses a machine to see whats happening on other dimensions. By casuality starts seeing pokemon dimension. And more specifically Hoenn. This is where is have my dilemma. Do an ORAS or try somthing new basing on the premise that Games Serena aslo goes to Hoenn like anime? And how a semigoddness alien must think seeing pokemon like a soap opera with also a capacity to make some changes?
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>>31792697
PD: Fucking keyboard of the mobile.
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>>31789052
I am, yes, it brought a lot of work. And I'm only half-done.

Anyway, here it is, a belated Valentines story. Format is a two-parter, with the second part to come hopefully before the weekend hits.

>Tricks of the Love Fast, by Venia Silente
>A day in the life of a Nidorino who sees his role and capability as a father questioned from various angles. But he is assured he has something to offer.
>https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=388940

Happy Valentines, fuckers.

>>31790880
Sorry to hear that, but I hope your mind is slowly coming back up to things.
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>>31792697

It really depends on the tone of the story you're going for and the kind of narrative hook you want as a writer. This is something you really should be coming up with yourself, not looking to other people to attempt to inspire you.
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Have an Olivia greentext, on the house
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>>31787499
Thank you! :)
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>>31792573
Every time I am forced to reload the page, it seems to boot you out of the chat because microsoft is a company that cares.
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>>31796418
>page
>reload
>chat
>Microsoft
...what?
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>>31796418
you...you are aware you're on 4chan, right?
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>>31796829
>>31796815
Not on Google Docs where this feedback is taking place
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>>31798445
Story based on this pic when?
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Morning bump
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>>31794947
diamoNDS
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Hi. I updated the catalog. Sorry for the wait. See you in four more months, I guess.
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>>31802828
O shit you still alive?
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>>31806147
When casteliacones are sold out again so you got whatever was available in the 7-Eleven.
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>>31802828
Or you could always hand over credentials to other of the regulars.
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I have been playing my space sim. When I got to a space station after loosing a lot if fuel I saw that there was only 5% of fuel in the propellants tanks. Any fic that I could do with this?
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>>31737080
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>>31809059
well space and pokemon very rarely go hand in hand.

Maybe a test spacecraft gets stuck in space and their fuel reserves are dwindling...something something...Deoxys encounter.....something something...Mega Fug saves spaceship and crew...something something..the end.
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Requesting any and all stories about psycho bitch Moon
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I've no intention to write one, but I'm just curious. How would you guys feel about a fan story with a completely original gen? Fan region, fakemon dex, new characters/plot, etc.
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>>31812182
Hard to relate, even harder to hook. Especially the fakemon, and especially especially if you go the formal evil team numerous challenges elite four.

One thing I'll commend Sun/Moon on is that it fucked with the quota a bit in its plot. It had a special challenge instead of gyms but was functionally similar. It had unique characters with relationships and personalities and relevance that shifted often on where they stood in relation to the player. It had two teams but not in the black and white team Aqua and team Magma, rather a complex and twisted mixture of different motives and ideologies. You could try to replicate it, but not being able to SEE the pokemon mostly defeats the purpose of the fanfiction, and it'd be a tough pill to swallow in general if one wasn't already an experienced author who could make a good story out of nothing like that. But then-- the story would be about the potency of the plot and skill of the writer, not the fact that it's all in a fabricated setting within the franchise. You might as well be writing original stories at that point.
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>mfw i did five hundred words today
Keep at it guys, we'll all make it. At the end of the day at least you wrote something down! you lazy fuck
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>>31812405
>mfw I faced the mistakes of my chapter today and continued to bear the burdens of being inconsistent with a longfic
>additionally accomplishing little but fixing small mistakes, taking notes, and sizing up the larger revamps that actually matter
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Wake up!
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>>31813445
I didn't go to sleep
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>>31809059
Like the Gravity movie, but with Mega Fug and Deoxys duking it out (or, more properly, Mega Fug tearing Deoxys new nifty holes) and as a result lots of meteor chunks being thrown around across the orbit at dangerous speed, and the MC must manage to reorient the space station without spending fuel as the thrusters are damaged and they can't afford to spend fuel in not-propulsion or otherwise they won't reach the next safe orbit before the domino Kessler effect reaches back to them.

Yeah the staticness of the fight was the only bad thing in the otherwise cool and awesome Fug episode in Generations, so I'm hoping for fics that fix that and give us a glorious, destructive high-orbit battle.
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This week has been really productive for me. I'm finishing up the last few chapters of Protector and starting work on a new series. It will be set in the same universe I've built up over the years but the perspective is from a different group of characters and set in another time period, making it independent from what I've written so far. What that means is that a reader won't need to go through what I've already published to understand the current situation (that's been an inconvenience I've noticed with writing sequential story arcs). A few references will be sprinkled into the mix but it'll be a standalone and more traditional tale about a girl with her pokemon working to solve a mystery in an unfamiliar world. Should be posting something soon(TM). Really need to edit plus get some feedback.

also bump
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>>31809059

a trainer and six of their pokemon are trapped on a space ship with not enough fuel to get back home, the only way they'll make it is if one of them is willing to sacrifice themselves in the matter incinerator
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>>31812182
I don't think it's too bad of an idea, though I might be biased because I've been wanting to do something in the same vein.

Like Mimiga said, it might be a bit harder to attract viewers because they'll be unfamiliar with everything, but making readers understand things they're not familiar with is an important part of writing anyway, so if you can describe things well enough for readers to follow it, I don't think there will be a problem.

That said, I believe a custom region is much easier for readers to understand than fakemon. With fakemon, you'd have to describe them much more intricately so readers can visualize them properly. So you might want to avoid doing that unless you're confident in your ability to describe new Pokemon with precision.
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Apologies for being late to post a chapter this week.

I hope to get it up on Ao3 sometime today.
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I'm close to updating chapter 1 of DS finally, then I can work on the next chapter.

Also, I've made a list of insults because I was bored. This might be useful; tell me what you all think: http://pastebin.com/GnHDTc07
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>>31818295
I actually like some of those insults. I think the best are weed, sea-monster, brute, dream-eater, edgemon, and undead.
Same for fire-spitter and airhead, but I remember those were my suggestions from earlier so of course I'd say I like them.
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>>31781372
Seeing as the 2nd important protagonist shows up in the chapter I'm currently editing, I'll give my thoughts on this (meant to earlier but haven't had time. If this has all been resolved already, you can probably ignore me).

I personally separate things like that between scenes. Protag1's thoughts and perspective only in 1 scene, and then another can allow for views of another character's point of view.

How often these perspective changes happen, and how often is TOO often, I'm not sure. So long as it's at least clear who is doing what and who's PoV we have at any give moment you should be fine.
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Just under the wire, here's another chapter of "The Dark Type": http://archiveofourown.org/works/9113758/chapters/22025087

Things changed and things were added in the editing of this one, part of why it took so long to get this up.

Next week will be a "Vines of Deceit" chapter.
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Californian here,

What are some good Mystery Dungeon stories I should read on my phone? Odds are good that the power will go out again and I need something to pass the time.
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>>31823905
Quick shill

https://archiveofourown.org/works/7309726
https://archiveofourown.org/works/7306693
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>>31823905
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10483318/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Power-Trip
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10242900/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Aura-of-Storms
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11225832/1/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-Rebirth
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>>31820558
Oh, I won't ignore you; I'm always glad to hear advice. Thanks for your input.
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Discuss this:

The maximum number of Pokemon an MC should have is 3.

Each Pokemon should have a personality that fits in 2 sentences, short ones. I'm not asking for Shakespeare, ya know?

Pokemon should be shown to have utility outside of battle. Simple things like Ice types freezing the ground to make baddies slip around, Water types doubling as jet skis, etc.

Gym/Shrine/DMV challenges should actually involve using those utility skills.


You should already have the beginning, middle, and end of a story planned out. That's just smart, dude.
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>>31836511

I'm just going to skip the 4th one since I've have no experience writing gym and gym-like stuff.

>The maximum number of Pokemon an MC should have is 3.

If you're not used to writing multiple characters and their actions or hate managing a large cast, then yes, a max of 3 makes sense. This rule makes double sense if there's a large cast of trainers, this rule would keep battles short and lessen the hassle of keeping track of where each pokemon is generally.

If, however, you are someone who is used to writing multiple characters, actions and all,


>Each Pokemon should have a personality that fits in 2 sentences, short ones.

I think this should be more a general rule that if you can't do that, then rethink you're character. Not that I'm saying a larger summary is a problem but if it's hard to pin it down to two sentences when asked, then there's a problem.

>Pokemon should be shown to have utility outside of battle. Simple things like Ice types freezing the ground to make baddies slip around, Water types doubling as jet skis, etc.

Absolutely. It would help turn otherwise animals with magical powers that fight sometimes into beings that can help in everyday life and give them some personality. That Ice type that can freeze the ground? It loves to do that all the time because it loves to prank people. That Water type that can jet ski? It loves competition and lives to win races of all kind.

>You should already have the beginning, middle, and end of a story planned out.

You should have a beginning planned out. You have to start somewhere. Same with the end- you can't be too ambiguous with an ending, unless you plan for a sequel.

For the middle, a general outline of major events and actions, for me, is what I plan out. What happens in between is improv because I can't map out every detail- plus, improv sometimes brings out the best of my writing.

I think I'll expand this topic with: you should have the concept of your story planned out.
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>>31836511
It's about time to head to bed, but I'll quickly give my not-thought-out-very-much thoughts.

>The maximum number of Pokemon an MC should have is 3
Absolutely not, if you ask me.
Now, I'm not saying every trainer out there should have a full team of 6, but there's no reason to make a blanket restriction like this on all your main characters. If just a few have 6, that's fine. After all, many trainers in various sections of the series--be it games, anime, what have you--can use 6 Pokemon. So I think writers can feel free to make some of their characters do the same.
Emphasis on "some", though. What's important is to ensure that they don't come off as overpowered, and also that they aren't too commonplace, because trainers with full teams are potential game breakers and also are not too common.

>Each Pokemon should have a personality that fits in 2 sentences, short ones
That sounds like a good idea to ensure you make the characters easy to understand and keep them consistent. Though I think one should also be careful that this doesn't lead to overly simplistic or cliche characters.

>Pokemon should be shown to have utility outside of battle
Sure. This is already a thing with HMs and Ride Pokemon, so I see no reason why it wouldn't work in stories.

>Gym/Shrine/DMV challenges should actually involve using those utility skills.
DMV? Department of Motor Vehicles? I'm not really sure that applies here, unless I'm missing something.
Anyway, implementing those skills seems like an interesting idea. I think there was actually a discussion on that topic in the writethread recently, in fact.

>You should already have the beginning, middle, and end of a story planned out. That's just smart, dude.
I agree, dude.
But also don't be afraid to wing it sometimes. If you get a good idea along the way, work it in if possible, even if it's not something you'd planned from the start.
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>>31836511
I think it mostly depends on what you're trying to have your MC do. For instance: Johannes has 2 pokemon and a wife while Ignace has 3 but mostly uses 1 that occupies a rather unique position. They aren't Trainers so they have little need for so many Pokemon if their jobs (behavioral researcher and rogue detective respectively) don't demand it.

Personality should ideally be something that is fleshed out enough to give each pokemon the amount of character you want it to have. Charles and Viola were given considerably more personality because they're important to the work as characters that navigate the narrative. Meanwhile, bloon and firedoggo are very straightforward, uncomplicated Pokemon that Ignace has to solve problems...

Which leads directly into using Pokemon for their utility. Drifloon and Skarmory are great for making aerial escapes.

Having the entire course of your work planned is slightly debatable. You should have an idea about what you want everything to be, but it isn't uncommon to have your beginning and end more or less figured out, but left with a barebones or altogether missing center. But coming up with that center is half the fun anyway, isn't it? That said, I like to have a somewhat developed middle, because otherwise I tend to suffer from, "I just wish I was at the ending I cooked up" syndrome.
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Morning
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>>31838389
Morning. 1AM down under.

Can't sleep, won't sleep.
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>>31836511
>SHOTS FIRED

Fine, let's see.

>The maximum number of Pokémon an MC should have is 3.
Absolutely false. They have the number of Pokémon that fits their history and actions. *Keeping* focus on at most 3 at a time is a good idea IMO, if you or the story are not capable of holding the focus or developing more of them at once, tho. That's just ISO Standard perception management.

>Pokémon personality should fit in two sentences.
I find this a good guideline for starting the character concept; however, if once the story ends the character's personality can still be described in only two sentences (even worse: the same two sentences as the beginning), that's a probable sign the character was not given good development (of course, ignore that if giving the character development was not a stated goal).

>You should have the beginning, MIDDLE and end planned
...Guilty as charged. Middles are my PITA.
Then again I don't exactly agree with the overall idea. I prefer to have the beginning and ending (and specially the ending) all planned out, but other than that let the characters experience and live the story on their own, and change it as it goes. Most of the stories I have published differ notoriously from the planned outline because of that, even if the ending or the intended message is the same.


>DMV challenges
Ooooh sure, why not, it would be interesting to see how would that work out. Maybe some of the tests involve having your Pokémon safely get you out of a (simulated, of course) crashed vehicle? We had a talk in the IRC once about how a psychic mon could (or not: OP Psychics trope in action) get you out of a vehicular accident before it happened.

>>31837002
>Personality should ideally be something that is fleshed out enough to give each pokemon the amount of character you want it to have.
Yeah, mostly this.
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>>31836727
>Concept
Yeah, that sounds like the right word. Pick what kind of story you want to tell, being as specific as possible would probably help.

>>31836808
Now give me your out-of-bed thoughts.

>Having a team of six
It just seems too many to write for, at least for fanfiction. Now, this might be where we are having trouble, I don't have a problem with a full team, but they shouldn't be there to Smogon their way through the story. The Pokemon should represent some aspect of the Trainer and develop in a way that compliments the Trainer. If you can handle six, then do it.

>>31838978
>Having issues with the middle
What I find helps me when running campaigns is having some cool set pieces that happen in the middle. It makes me eager to get to those parts and show them off to my players, who are good about role-playing in them. Something basic, like a Jackie Chan style river chase on improvised craft or messing with the rules and throwing a haughty character to trip up the PCs.

Protup: Nothing gets to the players than an enemy who can exploit the rules in their favor.

>>31838978
>>31836808
>DMV Challenge
It's something that came to me in an unrelated /tg/ thread and Star Trek Voyager. But once you get out of the games, you could imagine a city wanting to make sure people aren't flying around crazily and causing accidents in the sky or a water town wanting to make sure Trainers can handle their water Pokemon and know what to do in an emergency.

Obviously, you can dress it up how you want to suit the story. A Shrine that instills ancient values of using flying Pokemon, then has you fill out an exam and faxes your authorization to the government and other types.
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Is this why most stories I read are shit? Do people think that the middle of the story is there for padding purposes? In a well crafted story the middle is the most interesting part. It's also where the character development takes place. Saying you can just wing the meat of story is totally antithetical to the art of storytelling. You need an idea of what constitutes the main character's arc in order to write it.

Also, there's something to be said about writing a story with a minimum of character's. There's a given amount of "screen time", and everyone has to share. Adding more reduces the amount the principle characters have, something to be avoided.
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>>31841652
My out-of-bed thoughts remain pretty much the same. Regarding the team topic specifically, seems like we agree it can be tough to pull off a full team, but one shouldn't completely avoid making any characters with such a team. One should just be aware of the difficulties involved with handling so many characters, and decide whether or not giving a character a full team is necessary and beneficial to the story.

I also like the concept of a sort of DMV for Pokemon. It's not too big a stretch to assume people would need some sort of special training and authorization to safely use Pokemon as transport.
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>>31842040
Not necessarily. But I do think it is the most malleable part of the story, ergo where you should have the hooks open, and the conceptual simplicity required, for the story to change. If anything it should still be planned out, just the "lesser" planned out.

>Literary screentime
Actually, unlike in eg.: a televised format, screentime is pretty stretchable in literary medium so that you can have the characters who need them have their time under the limelight, provided you can keep the characters who are important to the things happening still under the "camera".

As with everything tho there is moderation to be had; if the projected length of your story doubles, that's a sign there's an underlying issue under the screentime.
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>>31842040

>Saying you can just wing the meat of story is totally antithetical to the art of storytelling. You need an idea of what constitutes the main character's arc in order to write it.

You can totally wing it if you know what you want to do plot-wise (i.e, MC goes here, conflict happens over there, exposition from the villain, etc.). As long as a writer knows where the destination is, I believe they will make the meat of the story just fine- having the middle being more open ended allows for flexibility in case you get that aha moment and you jot down something brilliant.

>Also, there's something to be said about writing a story with a minimum of character's. There's a given amount of "screen time", and everyone has to share. Adding more reduces the amount the principle characters have, something to be avoided.

Well, yes and no. There is a reason there's a divide between major and minor characters. Major characters get the most screen time and development because it's usually the protag. and antag., plus their associated groups. Minor characters support the major ones and have less screen time and development. Not saying they should be ignored but not every character needs to be seen: for example. the MC has a butler but since the MC is not always home, for long periods of time, his time to be seen is rather limited. Maybe he'll be seen in a chapter or two when it shows what's going on back home, where he'll be developed but that's it.
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>>31842999
I think you're very seriously confused as to what a story is. Any asshole can create a linear series of events where things happen. However, it lacks meaning. Star Wars wasn't just about a farm boy blowing a up a superweapon; it was about him growing up and learning about faith. Stories aren't about stuff occurring; they are about people. Their reactions to events is the story.
The author is sort of arguing an idea with the audience, with the actions of the a character's being shown in a positive or negative light depending on the the author's opinion. All of this takes place in the middle of the story. By the time the story reaches the "destination", it is too late to be cohesive narratively.
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>want to write the most disgusting, degeneracy-laden smutfics imaginable
>can't tear myself away from my original story without being so overwhelmed with guilt that I can't bring myself to write anything
suffering
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>>31840394
help computer
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boop
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>>31845019
write what you want faggot, don't subject yourself to torture if its a subject your not happy with
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>>31737080

>Which Pokémon is in dire need of a fic? What would it be about?

Obscure Pokémon in general need more fics, especially for showing how they operate as creatures. Stuff like a day in the life of a Maractus, or a Quilfish, or something of that nature.

Basically, fill gaps that exist in the body of fanfic and do something new.

And in other news, I have a new chapter to roll out.

FFN:
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11084689/47/Fledglings

AO3:
>https://archiveofourown.org/works/3465593/chapters/22028858/

It's a little later than I wanted for publishing, but hope you all like the kickoff to the new arc.
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Requesting a story about a primarina being cursed to lose its voice and forced to bark like a seal whenever it tries singing.
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>>31849055
requesting this too, but instead of being forced to bark like a seal, it is forced to give blowjobs.
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>>31847179
But I'm not unhappy with my original story either though, in fact I'm happier with it that I'll ever be with any fic I could write because of how much effort went in to make it possible. The issue is that if I have time to write I feel guilty that I'm wasting it on something that's inevitably irrelevant, compared to something that could potentially be my way of supporting myself and let me quit my job and whatever.

Maybe if I was feeling burnt out with working on it, but whenever that happens I usually end up burnt out on writing in general.
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I hope someday I find a PMD fic where the main hero looks at there partner like some sort of adorable pet and likes giving them belly rubs/head scratches and their partner is completely weirded the fuck out by it but tolerates it anyways
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>>318173380
Hi. I want to write some fics. But even I have a very high degree of English. I'm afraid of my translating capacity (I write first on Spanish). So how I can publish my fics without looking like an idiot at languages. Note: I'm native Spanish speaker. And sometimes I write some parts bad because the fucking keyboard is setting on Spanish autocorrection.
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>>31856859
I'd advise getting someone to look over your work, whether someone you know in real life, on the web, or by a writer here. They can proofread what you do before you publish it to everyone.
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>want to finish a oneshot for Valentine's day
>don't
>extend personal deadline to March 14
And if that doesn't work I can extend it to July 7. Romance-based holidays are unexpectedly frequent.
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Up
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Morning thread
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>tfw still no cute pheromosa x male trainer fanfic
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>>31860009
Did you miss the recap?
>>31737157
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>>31860453
Where's her legs?
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>>31860583
She lost them stepping on a landmine in 'Nam :(
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>>31863323
page 2 bump because why not, I never get the chance to do this.
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Updated the first chapter of DS and posted another. Also posted on AO3. I'll just post the link to the new chapter for now.

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12359877/2/Donker-Samenleving

https://archiveofourown.org/works/9861455/chapters/22128728
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>>31866994
Lol. But still...

You gotta think... what the hell were they thinking? Ever since villain teams started dealing with Legendaries directly, their ideas and plans have gone to shit (not the less because of the intervention of the MC).

But really what they were thinking? Why? Was there ever any solid foundation for their idea of "let's try and cattleprod this mythological creature into servitude"? Or were they just going that path because they(ir writers) ran out of believable courses?


Archie and Maxie? Ignored their own teams, ignored the LITERALLY writing on the wall, like CUTSCENE LITERALLY. Why did they even think some random orbs would work? "Lol, as long as I have this orb!" *tosses orb*
Cyrus... why did he try the Red Chain? Why did he even believe it would somewhat work? Where did that research even come from? I don't recall there being other Palkias or Uxies he could experiment on.
Lyssandre is just "let's use this Pokémon AS A BATTERY!" herpaderp and all while waxing faux poetical, even. The anime version is even worse, choosing to attack first the very spot where the strongest and most immediate threats to its plan are located, all informed and in operational condition. All while ignoing the safe base he started his plan from and that was ready to pick targets. No way that was gonna work.
Not even Giovanni who went on the safe path of "make your own"... then be a blatant jerk to it and right out tell it to its face you are trying to exploit it because of its superiority. Worst of all, it was a cat thing, and any villain worth their salt knows you don't cross a cat, you pet them while drinking some chianti.

Sometimes I'd like to read stories about "what they hell were they thinking". Beats having to read about blank slates of character re: novelizations and stuff.
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>>31868308
Real-life leaders tend to make retarded decisions due to their whackjob ideologies, not ridiculous cartoonish idiocy.
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>>31868429
>whackjob ideologies
>who are literally any of the evil teams?

I'm gonna stop arguing this here because I know you're the type of person that won't ever stop.
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>>31868495
The difference is that one believes in an ideology that appears to make sense in theory but doesn't work at all in practice while the other just doesn't seem to follow any sort of discernible logic.

But whatever, keep telling yourself that your least favorite president is just "stupid".
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>>31868518
>"least favorite" implies "current"

Interesting reading comprehension.
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>>31868530
oh please. As fucking if you were talking about anyone else.

Go eat a bullet.
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Can someone post the one about the emo Eevee princess who has the power of every eeveelution and her dad the king is baller af?
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Looking for a pretty vanilla trainer x pokemon romance fic, preferably a somewhat long one I can marathon for a while. Please no Gardevoir
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Boop
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>>31869012
https://m.fanfiction.net/s/9885989/1/Meadow-of-the-Heart
This guy usually has long stories
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>>31869562
This is...A lot more fluff than I anticipated
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Computer's up shit creek
At least google docs saves
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>>31868283

I still think most of these evil team leaders would be better off just catching the legendaries fair and square with a few Ultra Balls instead of depending on evil doomsday torture devices and ancient forbidden relics. And, you know, maybe treat the Pokemon properly so it's more willing to go along with their mad world ending plots.
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>>31875041
Ghetsis had the right idea. Have someone go get the legendary for him, manipulate as needed.

Too bad it had a twin.

Then there's Kyurem
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>>31875709
>Then there's Kyurem
Not for long. Ice-types, you know.
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>>31873489
Yeah Google docs is the ultimate backup
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>>31869562
Thanks mate. I'll have a read tonight
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13 days? Threads have gotten even slower...
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>>31878841
Holy dicks you're alive. Welcome to off-peak time. They were about this slow around this time of year last year too I think.
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>>31878865
>you're alive
Debatable. Three weeks straight of migraines makes me question many things about my health. What if I'm actually dead, and am just now experiencing the pain associated with catching up?

That, and stress in general, has led me away from writing both original and pokemon-related. This fact is starting to bug me enough to consider doing something about it. Alas, I'm also trying to sleep earlier to avoid otherwise irrelievable suffering, which cuts into my peak work hours. Alas, life is a story of compromise.

I'm honored that at least someone missed me enough to comment on my return, let alone so promptly. Were you looking forward to something from me?
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>>31878899
Whoops, forgot my name.

Yeah, I was looking forward to reading up on what came after Wrapped since I rather enjoyed it. It's not often I read something that manages to induce melancholic nostalgia immediately after finishing it.

Sorry to hear you've been dealing with migraines. Hope you find a way to get back into the swing of things that doesn't compromise your health because fuck if migraines aren't potentially a serious problem.
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>>31878921
>Hope you find a way to get back into the swing of things that doesn't compromise your health because fuck if migraines aren't potentially a serious problem.
I think I've isolated the root causes, after trial and error and some asking around. This morning the pain was hardly noticeable. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

The next story I was planning wasn't originally going to be a sequel to WIAM, and I'd hopped to have it out for V-day because it was a bit (darkly) sweet. The total demotivation I've experienced has somewhat reset my priorities - and my enthusiasm - about several pending projects. I might get to WIAM's direct sequel faster. I might come around to BSTF's sequel earlier than initially planned as well, for whoever was interested in that.

Before that though, I might pop out a first entry in what might become a loosely-continuous series of entries, just as a warm-up. I'll figure it all out tomorrow, when it isn't so late.
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>>31878899
Now that's a tripcode I've not seen in a long time.

Welcome back! I would ask "how have you been" and "what's been keeping you", but it looks like those questions are already answered. Migraines, huh? Real sorry to hear that. I actually got a lot of migraines when I was younger, and although they've become pretty nonexistent in my life by now, I've had enough of them to know how much they can suck. Here's hoping yours go away soon.
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Why does inspiration strike when I am at my most busiest?
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>>31879559
Sounds like your muse is a tad like my own. Asleep when the queue's clear and talking nonstop when everyone else is too.
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>>31877980
Precautions always end up coming in handy. Luckily enough, the editing was mostly done anyway and I'm paper writing the next rough draft. I should probably be able to upload the last chapter to ao3 and hold out until I get my hands on a hard drive that actually wants to boot up, so nothing of particular value was really lost.

It's a little boring and tiring to only be able to write, though. I usually like short bursts all throughout the day with distraction in between.

>>31878899
Actually dying is no fun
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>>31753444
>>31753523
Somewhat related to this, but what original expressions might spring up from pokeworld cultures?

I mean would people in hoenn consider a bad storm "Kyogre stirring"? Might some people in Unova swear on either of the dragons to either swear themselves to a goal or the truth?
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Morning
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>>31879712
Depends a lot on culture - or, in a certain way, in counterculture.

See, the reason we IRL are so prone and well taught to swear to "God", or to our moms, is because we know we are not going to be smitten by the heavens (or our moms). We swear on importance because, hypocritically, we know we are safe from repercussion.

So, swearing over Reshiram or Zekrom, who were known to have brought war and strife and smitten each at least half of a kingdom (or something, I can't recall right now) is something I am not sure it makes much sense. Swearing over Kyogre or Groudon, whose last tantrum before G3 was implied to be in prehistoric times, would make some more sense, but after G3 would become as harsh and offensive as, say, swearing over hurricane Katrina in modern times.

So, while I could see some of those kinds of locale-defined swearing and similar cultural elements as working, they would run risk of becoming dated or strongly changing signification rather quickly, in particular if they're related to Legendaries and stuff. Easier to attribute storms to say, a bunch of Politoeds than to the Legendary that, when it *does* bring out a storm, also stirs up the end of the world as we know it.
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So it's been a while. Any new ledian-centered fics out there?
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bamp
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>>31882304
How long is 'been awhile' for you?

>>31879003
This morning, like last, was still present but barely noticable. Getting better! Also getting rid of some minor stress-related weight gain, so that's nice.

I've had migraines commonly but not regularly growing up, but usually at night, and never more than two days in a row. This was a first for me in both length and time of day.

TotT: I'd like to see stories about Starmie or Reuniclus or all those Gen 3 Mineral-group ones, etc. Psychic-types that are so thoroughly alien that any psychic-type communication abilities like telepathy don't even help, or might even be hazardous.

>>31881070
Usually swearing pops up around taboos; to invoke that which is taboo is to convey seriousness or impact by breaking the taboo. Once English-speaking countries became largely secularized, they followed the French's lead in moving on to bodily functions. But in Quebec, where there existed a strong religious control for much longer, their strongest curses - the 'sacres' - still focus on religious topics and are seen as more impactful than the now-normal body function cusses most French demonstrates.
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>>31885168
I'm glad it's getting better, I was wondering what'd happened to you.

>I'd like to see stories about Starmie or Reuniclus or all those Gen 3 Mineral-group ones, etc. Psychic-types that are so thoroughly alien that any psychic-type communication abilities like telepathy don't even help, or might even be hazardous.

I thought your portrayal of Starmie in bstf was really interesting, especially about its alien mind. I'm a big fan of Claydol, Sigilyph and Bronzong and would definitely be interested in any psychic-mineral-group stories you may write.
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>>31769390
The Spacebattles and Sufficient Velocity forums both have fairly thriving sections for fanfiction, and I've seen (well written) pokemon fics get very welcome receptions on both sites. If you don't mind the message board format, it's worth checking out.
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>>31827406
>that artist's name and logo in the corner

Whyyyyy would you use something that dumb for an official signature. It's even fairly good art!
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>>31885773
Spacebattles' pokemon fanfic thread skews heavily to the ashnime, I'd honestly avoid it unless you're looking to do something in that specific form.

You can just keep it here and post it to FFN and/or AO3
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>>31868283
I'd kinda like to have a game that tones down the evil team's ambitions. It doesn't HAVE to be a world ending threat to be cool and dangerous, y'know? The Rockets were just jerks in it for the money, and they were great villains. I think a more small time, personally threatening enemy would be a lot of fun, but it seems averting the apocalypse is just part of the formula now.
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>>31886173
Pokemon are too powerful not to threaten cataclysm
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>>31753444
>>31753523
>>31753554
General phrases can stay the same. Most things relating to animals are fine as is, since we still have the words cat, dog, mouse, whatever in pokemon world. Arceus doesn't need to replace the word god, nor do any other legendaries.

However! I AM in favor of using them to add slightly humorous flavor to dialogue. Like, someone intentionally being hammy or dramatic might go "What in the unholy name of Giratina's dimension-shifting ass was that?"

That amuses me. I also once saw someone write a character use "Arceus Christ!" as a curse, and it was goddamn stupid and I loved it for that. It was crack though, so that gets a free pass.
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>>31886262
The first two gens did fine without it. The closest thing they had was Mewtwo, and he was just chilling in a cave.
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>>31885824
Eh, not all of them. There was a really good one called Learnset on there a while back, set in a gameverse. It was mostly about a talented, experienced trainer stuck in a bit of a burnout being unexpectedly thrust into a mentor role to an overexcited newbie trainer girl with some slightly delusional interpretations of what it meant to BE a trainer. There was also a bit of stealth parody of bad OC trainer cliches going on, but the story held up on it's own merits.

There was an interesting take on Red that I particularly liked; at one point the girl gets depressed because she's not getting badges as fast as Red did. The main guy exasperatedly explains that Red was a goddamn freak of nature that finished the Gym challenge in under a year and then vanished, and that normal ten year old boys do NOT train for solid ten hour blocks a day, every day, for months and months on end. He ends up grumbling that Red was an aberration that unintentionally did a lot of harm to new trainers trying to emulate him.

Gold tried. He even did it, then went up to Mount Silver... and then came back down and retired immediately from training. He wouldn't talk about what happened up there.

There was a lot of interesting implications going on in the background like that. It's too bad there wasn't more.
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boop
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Progress report bump;

There've been several posts in this thread about pokemon in space, and it reminded me of a scene - without much of a story - I'd imagined awhile back. I'm throwing it together as a warm-up to get back into the swing of things. Hope you anons are still thirsty for spaceflight.
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Here's chapter 3 of "Vines of Deceit": http://archiveofourown.org/works/9294437/chapters/22200662
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Who wants to read a one-shot about pokemon flying a starship?
Too bad, you're getting it anyway.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/9908852

It's long and rough and rambling. It didn't even hit the notes I wanted it to because this is my first time writing in seven weeks, and I wanted to just let it flow without interruptions. For those who can look past those flaws, and its subject (but I repeat myself), I hope you enjoy.
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>>31890263
>No Rayquaza or deoxsys
Interesting tags
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lunch time bump
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epic black surprise text XDDD
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>>31896098
wow very jumpscare 2spooky4me halp flashlite pleas
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Hello. Looking for someone with some knowledge on Spanish to do a cooperative fic. My English level is Mid High.
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PD: I must say that I like first to write in Spanish than English.
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>>31897263
>>31897136
What's the story about?
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>>31898238
I'm the guy whi proposed the fic about the interdimensional travel, the space fics and the semigod watching the ORAS or XY stories. Also some of SCP
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>>31898262
I can do some reviewing for you, but my schedule is topsy turvy, and I'm only familar with Mexican Spanish. If you're in Spain, I might not be a good choice.
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Midnight Challenge
>go to http://inspirobot.me/
>Generate
>Use as inspiration for a short story
Or just post prompts based on what you get, I don't care
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>>31897136
Yo hablo glorioso español. My schedule is... whatever it wants to be, rather than what I want it to be. But maybe I can help with algunas cosas.
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>TFW want to write a fic on pokemon but with mechas
>don't have the time or skill to do so
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>>31898398
Saved. I'll do something when I'm not at work.

>>31898715
Are there PMD style Pokemon that summon Pokemechas?

Or are the Trainers summoning Pokemechas?
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>>31898715
Weird, I've been having that same urge the past few days
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>>31898398
>Don't be alone, get pregnant

The tale of the lonely slut
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>>31898715
>>31898746
Reminder that, idk, I have no motivation or whatever. Have some PokeTech
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Fuck, anyone have any fluffy eeveelution fics? I'm really in the mood for eevee cuddles for some reason.
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>starting to finally get to writing the rising action
Srs business.
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>>31898364
Oh. No the Spanish is very similar in this way. So isn't a problem.
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>>31898715
Just use Zygarde 100% forme
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>>31898398
Fuck.
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>>31902249
Man, that one is easy and hilarious.
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give it all you got until the end
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pls no kill
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>>31906175
307 death is coming with a welcoming palm
let peace descend and set right this wandering
a new day to dawn and press away the shadowed night
reveal for us please the glimmering dewdrops,
they that adorn but only the most modest of flowers
to struggle, to strain against His bonèd grip,
an affair wrought and wracked but impotent true
nay 'tis purest vanity to lust for three breaths more
surely released and lost with no less fervor!
fall to the mat, pugilist, and let the zebra count 10
your fight is over and well you fought,
but like all mortals, these, your stirrings, are for nought
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>>31906373
Damn, and I thought I was an edgelord.
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>>31906175
>>31906373
wth did I just witness
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>>31907032
I feel like it's copypasta or a paraphrase of a poem or something like that, but searching those lines on the internet returns nothing. It might be original.

Regardless, the fact is we've now hit bump limit, and that's all that really matters when you think about it.
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>>31907344
You know what you're right. Time to be reborn.
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Maybe one day
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>>31909096
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