Legendary Shitmons

>PU
what the fuck is this made-up garbage

>>31727021
Hoopa, Shaymin, and Kyurem already have alt forms in OU/Uber. They're fine.

>>31727021
Remove Slow Start and retcon Regi to have some variant of Huge Power. It's a legend, it should not be useless for 5 turns

>>31727057
Were you absent for gen 6?

PU was an unofficial smogon tier for all the bad stuff in NU. Like, there's no way you can put Ledian and Gastrodon in the same tier. It became an official tier after a while, and no, the acronym does not stand for anything.

>>31727021
Keep them in pve

>>31727077
What if Slow Start gave it -2 to all stats when sent out, but it gained +1 at the end of each turn?

>>31727123
There was also a bit of debate over a tier even lower named FU, but I don't think there was enough demand. Don't quote me on this.

>>31727168
Yeah, FU was a thing, with Gogoat, Electabuzz and Arbok being the big threats early on iirc
It wasn't really big but it was fun

>>31727159
Still doesn't get Protect or Rest to live those first 2 turns. If it gets +1 every turn even after Slow Start nerfs are over and Protect, sign me the fuck up.

>>31727068
I know. And Diacie has a Mega too. I just included them for completions sake.
>>31727168
FU has a possibility of being official this gen , what with all the new Alola shitmons.

>>31727159
that would be interesting, I would slow U turn to get it out safely the first turn, then protect on the next turn, after that it would have 0 on all stats and gain 1 every turn, could be interesting

>>31727192
Lurantis is sure to get a spot saddly

what if slow start didn't reset on switch?
is he good yet?

>>31727207
I'm not so sure. Even with its stats contrary leaf storm is excellent in itself, it might end up in low-mid NU or PU frankly. It's got acceptable bulk that doesn't rely on eviolite like Servine, and hits a lot harder. It's also got decent attack stat I guess

>Slow Start only effects speed and lasts one turn
>Give every Regi recovery/shore up
>Heatproof for Regice/Registeel
>Solid Rock/Filter for Regirock/Registeel

Does anyone know how to calculate stats after boosts? Like what multiplier for +1 stage, +2, +3, etc? I wanna try something.

>>31727021
>silvally
>legendary pokemon

GREAT MEME MY MAN

>>31727248
0 is 2/2. +1 adds one to the top, -1 adds one to the bottom. (e.g. +2 is 4/2, -2 is 2/4)

>>31727255
that's why it has a ? over it

>>31727261
Okay, thanks.

>>31727123
I've been absent since gen 5, actually.

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>>31727275
Same guy here. If I did the math right, Gigas after being out long enough to get +1 to all stats has 690 attack and 448.5 speed.

>>31727255
But it is, autismo

>>31727021
>no Johto legendaries are shitmon
badass

What makes Zapdos so much better then the others?

>>31727418
>not 4x weak to sneaky pebbles

There you go, also heatwave and a good typing

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>>31727418
>What makes Zapdos so much better then the others?
Gee, I wonder...

>>31727203
Doesn't get Protect, but it does get Substitute and Drain Punch.

>slow start lasts for 3 turns instead of 5
>and boosts attack and speed by 1 stage every turn after Reggie finally gets it going

>>31727462
>>31727361
>@leftovers
>Sub 'till your defenses are too high for your opponent to deal with
>Drain punch/Sub 'till you're at +6
>Superpower/Stone Edge/Earthquake everything.

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Phione seems unfixable

>>31727653
Why does Phione even exist?

>>31727653
Phione is a cute.

>>31727636
basically BLOOD TOTEM on steroids? lord have mercy

>>31727636
Should have been "Sub 'till your defenses are too high for your opponent to knock out the sub in one hit."