ITT: Moves nobody uses

>>31704025

>Confide

Ion Deluge

>>31704025
>he doesn't knows about Quash Sableye

>>31704025
Ally Switch
I thought it was supposed to be like U-turn for the longest time and always wondered why it failed

>Detect

Earthquake

>>31704156
I use detect m8

>>31704156
>Not using an Unfezant with Air Slash/Protect/Detect/Roost equiped with Leftovers.

ISSHY DIGGY

Razor wind is the worst move in the whole series. I've thought that since gen 1

>>31704075
Nobody uses that

>>31704025
Why Incinerate originally 30 power and available only on postgame? Did Gamefreak really thought the move was good?

>>31704188
... actually, yeah they do.
It's core for doubles Sableye

Wonder Room

nature power
aurora beam
submission
lick

>>31704202
Also some Battle Subway sets have legendaries waste a moveslot for that shitty move

>>31704202
>>31704232

I guess they thought the Berry-destroying effect was going to be enough to carry it.

now, if it destroyed Held Items...

Camoflauge

>>31704257
Berries are held items.

>>31704281

I meant All Held items, not just berries.

>>31704128
Ally Switch is great with bites like Aurorus.

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>>31704257
>Incinerate becomes a special Knock Off
Could be interesting.

>>31704183
>normal type
>80 BP
>charge move

Why is it so garbage? The only "benefit" it has it a high crit chance. I can't believe they've buffed so many moves, but haven't even touched this shit since Gen III.

>>31704229
>nature power
>aurora beam
>lick

All have in-game usage. Submission is tottaly garbage even in game though

Embargo

>>31704769
I hate that it's a normal move and not a flying move, it's retarded, and only 80 power for a charge? It's shit

>>31704790
Wonder Launcher

>>31704025
>ITT: casuals

>>31704814
Yea, its probably the final legacy of Gen I's retarded move design.

It'd be nice if they turned it into a flying type Solar Beam for the rain

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>>31704769
Other moves include artifacts like Submission and Mega Punch/Kick etc. I understand the need of weaker moves for in-game progress, but these moves have no reason to exist when very limited amount of Pokemon learn them and have no redeeming qualities. Actually, I think they finally did touch Submission, except they nerfed it this gen (only PP wise)! For what reason? I don't know.

>>31704183
Kinesis is just as bad.

You shits don't play doubles, do you?

>>31704025
I've seen Quash on Murkrow and Sableye a few times. Usually you'd rather just Tailwind or Thunder Wave, but it has its uses

>>31704128
Ally Switch Cofagrigus was a thing in VGC 2015. After setting up Trick Room, it made it really hard for the opponent to KO your sweeper since you didn't know which slot it would be in.

>>31704156
Literally the best move ever

>>31704229
>Nature Power
That's had a recent surge in popularity in VGC, since it works off terrain now. Whimsicott is quite popular with it, since it gets STAB in both Grassy and Misty terrain

>>31705353
>Whimsicott is quite popular with it
and also it gets the priority with prankster and normalium Z becomes the Z move associated with the terrain (IE Z-moonblast in misty terrain or Z-thunderbolt in electric terrain )
Koko can also use it I guess, with a fini in the back he finally has a way to get moonblast
>>31704156
It's better than protect since it counters imprison

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Bide

a move that does nothing besides allowing your enemy to set up or switch to a better Pokemon.

Water/Mud Sport

>odor sleuth

>>31705421
It's good for shiny hunting

>>31705421
except when it's the opponents final pokemon is choiced

>Psywave
>Random ass damage
>Could freeze your game

Now that's a booby prize.

>Natural Gift

>>31704188
Dubs can't hide this singlesfag

>>31704156
Because is basically Protect with different animation I use it on my Mega Sceptile in AS.

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>>31706072

>>31704183
Is shit even in PMD, where charging moves like Dig, Fly, Roar of Time, Solar Beam, etc. have high BP, only because is Normal-type and very limited to a few Pokémon.

>>31704025
>>31704031
the fact that these two are still TMs makes me want to kill myself

>>31704202
Tepig and Pansear can learn it by leveling up, making it pretty useful early game.

>>31704607
Keeping its power down to about 40 would be fair. Knock Off is an uncommon move.

Constrict

>>31706188
Tepig gets Ember. Darumakka,the Pokemon with 15 apecial attack, 90 attack, and hustle who'll have fire fang by the time you catch one with fire punch soon after, gets it

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>>31706236
Liza Minnelli Lies

It's not a TM but its still darn common especially with its recurring stint as a move tutor move. Incinerate is basically restricted to one type

>>31706455
but its not tho
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Incinerate_(move)

>sky attack
>synchronoise
>mind reader
>heat crash
>inferno
>dive

Simple Beam.

You´re all forgetting some moves

growl
leer
splash (not Z-splash meme)
dragon breath
frustration

>snarl and confide are both tms

>>31704183
It should be a 100% crit.

>>31707069
Doubles. Bulk up Slaking.
Converts it from protect bait into destroyer of anuses.

>>31707018
Synchronoise was pretty great in the Pikachu tourney last year on Jolteon.

Too bad Gallade is the only one who can use it to it's fullest.

>>31704025
Flower Shield
Powder

>>31707082
Snarl is good in doubles, it's for utility, nerfing special attackers and dealing damage at the same time. I think it pairs well with Alolan Persian because it helps patch its weaker special bulk.

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>somehow this move is still 80 power and accuracy with recoil
I don't know how Game Freak can update the animation but not the numbers.

>>31707485
God that grab is so fucking NASTY in Pokken. After bulking up, it takes like half the health bar of a Pokemon.

>>31705959
>could freeze your game
What?

>>31707018
Sky attack Hawlucha was a thing back then.

>>31707410
Powder was semi common in early XY to fuck with the Blaziken that were everywhere.

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>Celebrate
>Event-only move that does nothing

>>31705959
Psywave actually isn't awful on super passive things that get it. It's kind of like seismic toss, except instead of a flat 50 damage it does 25 or 75.

>>31708944
z celebrate sometimes

>>31704785
Submission had the highest BP of any fighting move at one point. Fighting used to be the worst type.

>>31708944
Mega Rayquaza can use Z-Celebrate.

>>31707018
Mind reader sheer cold Articuno mate

>>31705913
Odor Sleuth is useful ingame because it removes Ghost-types' immunity to Normal-type moves, allowing False Swipe to work.

>>31707018
>synchronoise umbreon

>>31704025
Muddy Water

>>31709262
The only thing that gets both Odor Sleuth and False Swipe is Smeargle, who would usually rather Soak ghost types to remove any (secondary) STAB and potentially prevent them cursing themselves to death or something

>>31709275
I've found a Singles player!

>>31709275
Goodra.

>>31707799
Power Herb Unburden Hawlucha
It's still a thing in low ladder competitive.

>>31707072
Growl and Leer both have some applications in the hobo phase that is early game single-player.
Frustration is used in battle simulators to somewhat counter Scarf Ditto.

>>31707223
>wouldn't entrainment be better in any way posible?

>frost breath

Eerie Impulse

>>31709413
Would be nice if a pokemon with sniper learned it.

>>31706154
it has lower pp

>>31709413
Anger Point meme strategies in doubles use frost breath and storm throw

>>31709299
>>31709304
>Using Muddy Water over Surf

>>31709591
Oh there's a very good reason to use Muddy Water over Surf, I'll let you figure out what it is.

>>31709599
Accuracy Drop, and doesn't hit teamates, but with 85% accuracy? No thanks.

>>31707072
Growl and Leer can be used in doubles as they work on BOTH opponents

>>31704173
protect and detect lock each other out nub

>>31709413
What's wrong with it? It has the same BP as Ice Beam and it breaks throughany sort of Sp. Def boost, including Light Screen.

>>31706175

How is it shit in PMD? Razor Wind Helioptile wrecks shit.

>>31709222
no it cant. mega rayy lmao cant use z moves

fling
sky drop

>>31711391
Sky Drop can be useful in Doubles, if you want to stop one opponent from bothering your ally.

>>31711352
Ice beam can still crit plus freeze

>>31711352
It also ignores if the user's Special Attack is lowered.

>>31709299
The Sun/Moon event Munchlax got Hold Back and can learn Odor Sleuth. I use it (as Snorlax now) as my main catching Pokemon.

>>31704188

you clearly haven't played doubles at all

>>31705353
Nature power was so good wen it was earthquake

it gave some mons really good coverage

>>31711391
Fling was really useful in gen IV if I'm not mistaken. Or maybe it was gen V

mirror move
reflect type
copycat

Constrict
Barrage
Triple Kick
Rototiller
Searing Shot
Fairy Lock
Crafty Shield
Flower Shield
Kenisis
Razor Wind
Electrify
Magma Storm
Twister
Gravity
Ally Switch
Bestow
Telekenisis
Wonder Room
Crush Grip
Wring Out

Guys, guys, guys.
You're all missing the shittiest move of all.

Rage.

>>31704025
Quash Murkrow was my best friend in genfive doubles. Fucked over so many Terrakion Whimsicott cores with Focus Punch Granbull and Quashkrow.