Pokemon Sun/Moon experience

Yup. Having to babysit some marysue baby and then her basically going gay for me cucked me out of actually having a choice.

>>31693686
Yeah I hated the story they forced on you, but I tried to enjoy the parts where you're just a trainer being a trainer. Even that was had because everyone in Alola is a pushover with a single mon.

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>>31693686
Hau isn't black at all. He's meant to look like the Hawaiian kid in the trailers.

>>31693686
Opposite of it. I enjoyed and am still enjoying the fuck out of it.

There were only two parts I had hope for. The UBs hopefully being really cool unique gimmick boss fights and having a fun implementation in the story like some sort of kaiju movie, and the world hopefully being more open due to Rotomdex's inclusion with a way finder map and objectives. I was horrifically dissapointed by both of these. Also a couple of features returning from XY/ORAS being unexpectedly stripped down, and Triples/Rotation being cut entirely.

Everything else was either exactly the mediocrity I expected, including predicting just about every story beat related to Lillie, her family, Aether, and Team Skull, or the outright poor things I was expecting like Z-Moves, Totems, Trials in general, and Festival Plaza. Though actually Lillie exceeded my expectations slightly, while she was forced on you as much as I thought, she wasn't Zinnia-tier terrible.

Hau was one of the few enjoyable things about the game.

>>31693686
Yep, the region was so boring.

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>>31693686
More than disappointing. Probably the worst games of 2016.

>>31693700
>>31693830
>>31694457
>>31694486
Maybe next time you'll learn to not buy obvious blunders.

>>31694396
You can tell the shills are getting desperate when they can't come up with anything positive to say about SuMo and just settle with "i-its fun!"

>>31694505
Nah, there was worse on 3DS alone. Like Fire Emblem Fates: Revelation.

No.

>>31694457
Yeah it's kind of fucked up that the main story is literally about Ultra Space and 80% of Ultra Beasts are post game content. It would take relatively little effort to have you encounter them throughout the Aether/Lusamine plotline, but no, they have to be inconsequential Looker story quests.

it was pretty underwhelming, I disliked X/Y for the blandness of the map and the lack of decent post game content but even that was way better than the crock of shit we got in S/M

>>31694505
this his the nail on the head, especially the lack of pokemon variety
battle frontier 2.0 fucking when

>>31694585
>>31694557
Glad we're all in agreement.

>>31694547
>the shill still can't come up with an argument

>>31694457
>>31694557
>Ultra Beast bosses
I really, really don't understand this meme. Why? Ultra Beasts were, from the beginning, just Pokemon. Not even Legendaries. The last time they made a Pokemon a "Boss" was in BW2, and it was fucking disappointing. Lusamine was a great boss, and the Totem Pokemon were better than bosses than anything before.
How did you want UBs to be? Something the whole story revolved around despite lacking the ability to even speak or do much else other than fight?

>>31694605
I wanted full on gimmicks when fighting them in crazy monster movie scenarios. Like, as an idea thrown up right now, following Guzzlord as it approaches a city and having to defeat it on a turn limit before it gets there and eats everything, with using certain moves at certain points of the chase possibly effecting the environment, interrupting it, and giving you extra turns. Or Phermorosa going so fast you can't hit it easily, but you can scare it off gaurd with "dirty" moves to get it to land in Spinarak webs so you can actually hit it. Buzzwole will constantly "summon" wild Pokemon and drain their fluids to gain its stats, making it so you have to keep knocking them out before it can finish, but if you let it absorb Grimers or Trubbish or something it'll have a bad reaction and get way weaker. And make it so all of them have horrendously inflated HP so the fight actually lasts, like enemy White/Black Kyurem should've had in BW2 and the Totems in SM who are all jokes should've had.

>>31694738
So Distortion World like gimmick taken to extremes? I'm so fucking glad they didn't waste time on that shit.
At least I understand the meme now.

>>31694738
cringe

First pokemon game I come back to after 2 years. I was thrilled at first but I soon became bored and disappointed. SM feels so small and lacking. :/

>>31694594
>>the shill still can't come up with an argument
Arguments praising have been made since the game came out, and are still continuing. I can write a whole essay here, or link you to some hour long video explaining all of it, from gameplay to story. But what's the point? It will all be just a waste of time, as I'm certain you will ignore all the points made and autistically screech about how "I didn't like it!" or "These few minor things are bad, so the game is shit!".

Can other people like Sun and Moon without being called a shill?

of course it wouldn't matter to this thread with a samefag replying to himself just for the sake of glorious bait.

>>31694841
name 3 things S/M did to improve the series

>Reworked T/HMs
>...
>???

>>31694855
People can genuinely not like the game without being PokeBarneyfag with his bullshit worst game ever Sonic 06 of Pokemon everyone's a shill rhetoric.

>>31694884

>Sonic 06 of Pokemon
That was X/Y, anon.

>>31694892
X/Y was infinitely better than S/M

>>31694897
SM was Meh
XY it's shit

>>31694867
That's the point, SuMo shills have no argument. Why do you think ther are thesis statements on why SuMo rank among the worst games of 2016 while shills can only say "b-but it's fun tho!"

>>31694855
In order to like the game withot being a shill you must find something positive to say about it. SuMo has none of that.

>>31694897
Sad but true.

>>31694897

They both have disappointing parts, but if I would go with which has a better story, at least, and better features (when it comes to breeding and obtaining 4 IV Dittos because I'm a competitive player) I would give it to S/M and to an extent, ORAS.

>>31694906
the only problems with XY were the absolutely fucking abysmal plot and how easy the game was, and if you play pokemon for the plot or the difficulty you have brain damage

>>31694867
Got rid of the boring Gym system and replaced it with somewhat challenging Trails and Totem battles, HMs removed, gave me a better reason to play by presenting a good story which kept me entertained rather than just going to through Gyms.
That's three. That's actually more than any other games previously did. For example, BW made TMs infinite. Other than that, it was the same. DP introduced Physical/Special split. Other than that, it was the same.

>>31694892
XY had lacked difficulty and annoying friends. That hardly makes it anywhere near Sonic 06 of the series.

>>31694919
>trials and totems are better than gyms
L O L
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>>31694917
Seems legit

>>31694913
ditto chaining is pure cancer though, I'll take friend safari dittos any day of the week

>>31694927
They were a change of pace for the series, but the execution was a bit off.

Granted, if GF wasn't so shit it would definitely be better than the gyms.

>>31694927
And you go on about how the "shills" lack an argument.

>>31694917
>the only problems with XY were the absolutely fucking abysmal plot
It was on the same as any other Pokemon game. What are you even talking about?

>>31694931
what's so cancer about ditto chaining?

at least, it's an in game thing. If for example, I dont want go out my way to obtain friend codes of people who have dittos.

>>31694954
It take time. You have to battle for a long time.

>>31694954
it takes forever, it's boring as shit and you have to start over if you get a shit ditto
at this point they should just give dittos naturally good IVs from the start, or at the very least let you catch more of them in one sos battle

>>31694963
>Taking time is cancer

I have no words for this misguided use of the buzzword.

>>31694979
but at 30+ chaining you're guaranteed a 4 IV ditto.

>>31694988
you might not get the IVs you need and you have to start over
compare it to walking into your friend safari for 10 minutes and catching 5 3+ IV dittos

>>31694927
>totem battles
they are okay but they would work better as the ace pokemon of a gym leaders than a wild pokemon you randomly encounter in your trials.
>trials
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH!

NO!

Beat it yesterday. The beginning of the game is an absolute hell with how slow it is. Maps are incredibly linear and boring. Just straight lines into 2 minute cutscenes over and over. It was also Kanto shilling 2.0. However I did find it much more fun when the story kicked up. The characters are far more enjoyable, especially the antangonists, but I was disappointed how inconsequential Lusamine's ambitions were despite being a morbid, batshit pokemon collector trying to open holes to other worlds. The elite 4 were a good set of fights after dealing with all the barr bones trainers with one pokemon throughout the entire journey.

Now I just have to complete the dex and hunt Ultra Beasts who I think are the coolest concept Gamefreak has ever come up with and I think I'll have fun doing so.

I'd give SuMo between a 6-7/10 overall.

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>>31693686
The hype for Zygarde and it's quest ended up as anti-climatic and not really getting to keep its last form just killed the whole quest. And the starters were somewhat disappointing with le too slow shit going around with Decidueye and Incineroar, wish their speed stats were swapped for their Sp Atk stats.

Still, I think that SM is decent.

Pic somewhat related I guess

>>31694919
>That's three. That's actually more than any other games previously did.

Gen II introduced genders, weather, shinies and items.
Gen III introduced abilities, sandstorm, and overhauled IV's and EV's.
Gen VI introduced megas, the fairy type, terrain, and horde battles.

>>31696153
Notice I didn't mention those three. I guess "any other" was wrong, but "most others" would've been a better choice of words. That was my bad.
Also, a lot of those are small things that aren't as important, such as shinies or genders. Gen II introduced a lot of great things, like breeding and types, so I'm not sure why you didn't pick those instead.

>>31693686

>ultra beasts were a missed opportunity and compose of little more than end game legendary catching which has been a thing since gen 1.
>no battle frontier
>lots of obviously cut content and areas, including steel, ice, fairy, and flying trials, the golf course, most of wela volcano, the tower in maille, etc
>no vs seeker
>no rebattles with a lot of prominent trainers, including lusamine, all of the trial captains except for the elite four members and kiawe/mallow, guzma in sun, etc.

That said though, I still enjoyed the game immensely. The post game is lacking but that's a problem in nearly every game with the exception of Emerald, Plat, and BW2. The main playthrough was a an absolute blast, even with the cut content, the whole way through and it's one of the longest in the series, second only to the Johto and Unova games. Totems are a great idea and I hope they get expanded upon. My only problem is that it's far too easy to just exploit a 4x weakness and completely destroy the Totem because you only have to defeat one pokemon. Raticate, Salazzle, and Kommo-o were a joke because of this. However, the fights where this weren't a problem, especially Wishiwashi and Lurrantis, were a ton of fun and more challenging than any gym leader battle in the other games. The characters were more endearing and memorable than in any of the other games, the music is phenomenal, almost all the pokemon designs are amazing, Rotom Dex is a great idea, etc.

I really hope for a second version. Add the cut content and add more post game and they will easily be the best games in the series.

It gave me faith in the series again after nearly 4 years of shit.

It got really bad after the third totem battle and when skull was revealed to be lusamines bitch babies. muh fps and muh post game really got to me this time, as this was the only gen i finished the regional dex

>>31696016
>GO HUNT DOWN THESE ULTRA BEASTS THAT ARE SUPER AWESOME AND DEADLY
>Where are they?
>lol idk in the grass or something

>>31696245
Really? You don't face them terrorizing towns or something?
>Find the source of the black out at the power plant
>There's a strange giant being sucking the life out the bamboo garden
>Reports of various pokemon punctured and drained of their energy
>Po Town's being terrorized by some brutal germaphobe
>Some seemingly invisible being is tearing the area to shreds
>Stop this devouring monster before it reaches town

Nothing like these? Just typical roaming?

>>31696379
Some funky music plays, if that helps. But yes. Just roaming.

>>31694919
>somewhat challenging Trails and Totem battles
Like what? Find this mushroom? Spot out the obvious difference? Take a fucking picture? And Totems went down in one, maybe two hits. Fucking stupid.

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>>31696386
Well that's rather disappointing. Also foes Zygarde do anything relevant because they hyped the shit out of him and just turned him into a collectable.

>>31696379
they dont have overworld sprites at all and you literally have to run around the grass in each respective areas to find them. same with fucking necrozma

>>31696405
he does nothing. not even tied into the marshadow event because its just another giveaway

>>31693686
No, I had fun with it. It could've/should've been better, but you can say that about literally every Pokemon game.

I'm thankful we got some neat new 'mons for porn

>>31696418
>Salazzle
>Tsareena
What the fuck was gamefreak aiming for with these designs?

>>31696407
Well I suppose I only have myself to blame for having such high hopes. Sun and Moon really could have been the funnest fucking game if not for such stupid shit.

>>31696425
every gen since 4 has had a waifu mon on purpose
>Lopunny
>Mienshaoand scolipede
>Braixen, Mega Garde, Mega Lopunny, Florges, Female Meowstic, arguably Aromatisse, Diance
>Tsareena, Salazzle, Tapu Lele, Pheramosa

its just like the anime where ash gets new girl partners every other season to capitalize on sex appeal

>>31696463
>Meinshao
>Scolipede
>Meowstic
>Aromatisse
This is a bit reaching. They don't have any blatant sex appeal or moe factor. And I don't think I've seen as blatantly sexy pokemon as Salazzle with its exotic dancer look and Tsareena with its full on leather dominatrix look. Its kinda jarring that Gamefreak ok'd them but at the end of the day I'm not complaining when my hand is around my dick.

>>31696456
they also couldve been the best games in general if they didnt remove certain gen 6 features and add back other ones. if you combined XYORAS and SM youd have the perfect games

>SM removes the clutter menus from pc, but the interface now has noticeable lag
>SM makes sorting bags easier with the free space, but the buttons are all different from oras and X not closing the bag feels weird
>SM still has the bottom menu, but the ORAS one was perfect
>Amie > Refresh
>SM adds friend plaza, but all trading now has to go through friend plaza instead of bottom menu
>Gen 6 had perfect hotkeys, gen 7 has ride pokemon
>SM has no access to old legendaries or move tutors
>SM doesnt have o-powers
>SM doesnt have a straight route to hatch eggs on (fuck the autismbox its fast but i hate it)
>XY has the perfect amount of customization
>SM removes the grid entirely
>SM removes half the megas for some reason
>SM has stupid ride outfits
>ORAS has awesome overworld flying
>ORAS has secret bases and mirage islands

there are literally too many features to list. if you took all the good parts of xyoras and sm you would have THE best pokemon game for years to come. instead, they cut some good features and replace them with questionable ones every gen

>>31696500
meinshao has bedroom eyes and aromatisse is literally lifting its dress to reveal its legs

>>31696504
Man who the fuck is in charge of the mechanics of the game that they just decide to drop so much ideal and optimal shit. I hope to god they make a sequel that doesn't shit the bed and follow in the good example of Emerald, Platinim and XY2.

>>31696405
Man at least we should of been able to keep Perfect Zygarde, it would help somewhat with the lack of epic questline Zygarde did not have in SM.

Though, it'd be amazing to see it fight the UBs since they threaten the natural ecosystem n shit and Zygarde is supposed to defend the planet/ecosystem.

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>>31696513
>Its eyes are half open
>It must want to fug

I got so hyped by SM's trailers during the pre-release period, but the games were extremely underwhelming.

>>31696632
Praying this is the plot to some sequel game or something

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WHERE ARE MY FUCKING MEGA STONES
REEEEEEEE

>>31696892
They blew their load way too hard with trailers

>>31693686
No, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Excellent singleplayer story and developed characters (although this pissed off people who enjoyed the interpretive "excuse plots" of older titles), and great new pokemon designs.
Since everyone seems to be comparing them to XY for some reason, I'll throw my 2 cents in and say XY had an infinitely inferior singleplayer but much better online. Since I mostly play singleplayer, SM was more enjoyable for me, but I can understand the online players preferring XY.

>>31698078
It's like they tried too hard to make up for how they fucked up between February and May with no info and Corocoro trolling us.

>>31694370
Hau is a total fucking nigger. That guy in your pic is a nigger. You're just deceiving yourself