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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the Movie: I Choose You! [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

Next episode:
>SM14 - The Fruit of Courage: Lilie and Rokon! [Feb 9th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>Break on Feb 16th
>SM15 - Scratchmark Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!! [Feb 23rd]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>31685952
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SM13 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=895444

SM12 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_012_The_Extracurricular_Lesson_is_on_Hidoide![H264_720P][693E6CFF].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

(HIGH QUALITY) MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 14 - THE FRUIT OF COURAGE: LILIE AND ROKON! (FEBRUARY 9TH)
>Satoshi and the others are really excited about the act that the egg they have been taking care of has hatched. Lilie, who has been in charge of the egg, is overjoyed as well, but she is unable to touch the Pokémon and just gets depressed. And then, a mysterious shadow that has its eyes set on Lilieand the others starts to...?!

>Summary:
>A Pokémon is finally born from the egg everyone have been taking care of! Lilie, who has been hard at work being in charge of the egg, is of course overjoyed, and so are Satoshi and the others. However, Lilie is unable to touch the Pokémon. She gets depressed, but Satoshi and the others encourage her, and she decides to approach the Pokémon. Will she become able to touch it?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Kei Shindo: Lilie
>Kaito Ishikawa: Kaki
>Reina Ueda: Mao
>Hitomi Kikuchi: Suiren
>Fumiko Takekuma: Māmane
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Unsho Ishizuka: Principal Okido
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Rikako Aikawa: Ashimari
>Mika Kanai: Togedemaru
>Chika Fujimura: Amakaji
>Kenta Miyake: Bakugames
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 70 (Feb 12th)

SM15 - Scratchmark Hill, Iwanko and Lugarugan!! (Feb 23rd)
>One night, Satoshi returns home to find that Iwanko, who had been watching the house, has been injured. He tries setting up a surveillance camera to find out the reason for this, but...?!

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/6lUViAS6/file.html

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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>>31690959
Looks like Ash, honestly.
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>>31690967
>Iwanko

Iwanko too.
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Noa lewd when?
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>>31691009
I was thinking the same thing
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>>31691027
Do you like futa
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op here sorry i messed up the pasta a little bit would you all be mad if i deleted and remade??
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>>31691027
Literally the OP of the last thread. If you're looking for genitals then you're stuck with big black futa cock garbage.
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>>31691066
Nah, it'd be appreciated. Go ahead.
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>>31691071
thanks, one second, will repost new link in old thread...
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>>31691043
What?
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>>31691111
Google it
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Man i remember when the XYZ opening was shown the first time.
The reactions here were amazing.
or that fucking official AMV about Greninja.

Fucking hell i miss the hype of XYZ. I miss Greninja.
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That time again huh?
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>>31691133
Agree. I don't even dislike SM, the eps have been decent, but I just don't feel hyped or compelled to watch it as XY.
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>>31691021
She seems more thick than May
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Dawn best girl.
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I'm still laughing at this.
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>>31691154
May has always been more top heavy than anything else.
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>>31691233
So
May: boobs
Dawn:Legs
Lillie: hips
Serena:???
Misty:???
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>>31691338
Serena is jack of all trades. Her boobs are only slightly smaller than May's. Ash really got the perfect woman.
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>>31691338
Serena: wife
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>>31691354
>>31691378

Samefag pls
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Serena has made me attracted to short haired curly blonde's. Hot damn.
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>>31691338
Serena: boobs, legs and hips
she was made to be an eye candy
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>>31691354
And that's why amour is shit. If you're not a self-inserter you're watching the perfect woman go for someone who isn't you.
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>>31691354
>>31691404

Jack of all trades, master of none
No wonder why she always loses to other girls in beauty contests
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>>31691354
Only with long hair does she belong in the highest tier of looks. When it comes to personality she doesn't offer much.
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>>31691411
Well I also want Ash to get a hot girl to retire with. I've been watching Ash for nearly 20 years since I was a kid, he's one of the longest lasting protagonists I've watched in any show ever. So I want him to get a happy ending as well.
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>>31691422
>No wonder why she always loses to other girls in beauty contests
But she wins in everything else because she's best girl
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>>31691442
Serena works better with short hair. Too much of her face was hidden before. Now she looks lively and energetic.
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>>31691446
>>31691401
>>31691354
Jesus fucking Christ, Scott.
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It's over, Serena peasants. Ash loves Kiawe now. Just give in and commit seppuku.
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>>31691478
Kiawe deserves better
Ilima never
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I'm going to sleep. The stupidity and autism of serenafags has begun
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>>31691464
Yajima retweeted this pic btw.
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>>31691446
I would have if BW had never happened. I lost all respect for Ash when he went out if his way to get a literal fucking retard into the league just so he could lose to him 6-5. Serena loved him when XY started, which was too close to BW for me to support it, and by the time he regained it it was too late. Then he kept losing to literally my most hated chuuni faggot and we were back at square 1.
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>>31691497
>serenafags
It's just Scott being autistic as usual. He's not even really a Serenafag. He just gets a boner at any hot girl in the anime that looks like May, and Serena is the latest one.
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>>31691513
He did? That's Pokemoa art too, I wonder if he's seen any of his other pics.
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>>31691478
IT IS OVER KAKI, I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!
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>>31691526
I wasn't too keen on Serena in the first year of XY, but after that I started to really like her, and then after Amour ramped up she became one of my favorites. I like Dawn and even pre-Johto Misty too, they don't look like May.
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>>31691544
which sm girls is your favorite?
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>>31691553
Stop replying to him, you dumbass.
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>>31691553
Mallow I guess, although I have no strong opinions on any of them yet. I did like Lana's episode the most so far.
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Say there's a Universe Survival Arc for Pokeani but instead of universes, it's based on regions

Who'd be on Ash's team and how would they stack up against trainers from other regions?
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!?
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>>31691528
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>>31691527
Well Pokemoa is quite famous on the anipoke tag, so probably.

>inb4 replying
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>>31691594
Link to Yajima's twitter?
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>>31691573
If Ash represents the Kanto region, then he would only be allowed to choose other Kanto region characters like Misty, Brock, Gary, etc.

Although by this logic he should just choose all the Elite 4 characters.
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>>31691594
Pokemoa needs to finish his movie swimsuit series. Mary was made for bikini lewd.
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Would Ash and Serena approve of their daughter liking girls?
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I want to kill Lillie.
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>>31691663
Lusamine pls
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>>31691601
https://www.twitter.com/tetsuo_yajima
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>>31691573
>Ash = Goku
>Gary = Vegeta
>Brock = Piccolo
>Misty = Krillin
>Ritchie = Gohan
>Samurai = Tien
>Mewtwo = Master Roshi
>James = 17
>Jessie = 18
>Tracy = Majin Buu
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>>31691663
>>31691668
kek
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>>31691675
Is it weird Yajima is barely retweeting any Pokemon stuff in general? He tweeted one SM screenshot recently (the girls in swimsuits, of all things), but not much else.

What has he been doing since XY ended?
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>>31691702
>What has he been doing since XY ended?

he and one of the animators are working on a project, nothing concrete and it seems like just a pitch. the project feels like "My own Pokemon wtih blackjack and hookers"
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I don't understand why they kicked Yajima to the curb. At least Tomioka is still around, even if he's not the main director.
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>Satoshi~ our child is so cute~!
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>>31691736
maybe he wanted to leave? working in a 3 years show is actuallt a lot for a director
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>>31691739
it is really not.
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>>31691739
Cute
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>>31691804
qtrena
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>>31691767
>Stop it Serena, that's no way to speak to my family!
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>Omode wrote the bikini episode
>Omode wrote this

Maybe making Serena lose to Elle Shit wasn't so unforgivable afterall.
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>>31691828
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>>31691702
Why would he retweet more stuff?
He retweets stuff about the episodes, info on the Pokemon movie, sometimes tweets from Kato or Sako, etc...
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>>31691865
I don't know, it seems like he's not really following the SM anime. If he's not working on it I guess he's not obliged to watch it. Especially if he moves on from Pokemon altogether.
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Is Ash gonna win the Alola League

Are they even going to show that off
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Rowlet episode WHEN?!
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>>31692011
is there a league? I don't play the games.
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>>31692164
>doesn't play the games
>therefore can't catch 'em all

Moooooddds
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Mallow episode when?
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>>31692199
Never, at this rate. ;_;
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What is that that some guy read the interview too and it doesn't say what Adamant said?
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>>31692487
Shitposting.
Also
>doubting Adamant
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>>31692487
Huh? Where is this? I'm not seeing it.
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>>31691411

Stay mad, filthy pearlningen.
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>>31691528
>Notto disu shitto agen
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>>31690962
I don't know what that mean's, can you care to elaborate?
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>>31691739
>Satoshi
*Mallow

>>31691783
The text isn't.
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>>31692503
Where? I'm looking in this thread and not seeing it.
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>>31692559
I guess he's talking about that guy on the shipping general.
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>>31692570
>one look at that thread
Holy shit, that autism.
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Dawn's body is plain ugly
Apart from her legs she doesn't have much to show
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>>31692698
Can't compare to May's hourglass figure
Even if both are ten years old it's clear who is the big winner
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So besides hatchu any news regarding the movie?

>>31691354
Why does she look sad?
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>>31692751
You're focusing on the wrong part of Dawn
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>>31692753
>replying
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>>31692753
Still can't compete
May is simply better
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>>31691338
>Serena:???
Heart.
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>>31692785
Bored. Also it isn't like I got an answer to my question anyway.
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>>31692811
God bless AG's off-model artwork.
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>>31692811
>>31692847
Recent development have been interesting
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>>31692861
Is she autist ?
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See that's what I don't get. People tell us we shouldn't sexualize pokemon girls, yet there are scenes in the actual anime in every season where the show itself does that. Every single girl has had these fanservice moments where they're made to look sexy or the camera focuses on an aspect of their body like boobs or ass.

Why are we called out on this when the anime itself does it?
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>>31692885
Pokegirls are made for fanservice
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>>31692909
It's true, especially ones with designs like this.
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>>31693056
She is a pure-hearted girl who deserved to win. WIN!
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Dawn's tiny skirt really felt weird for a show like pokemon. I mean May's breasts are one thing but she's still fully clothed with no cleavage, but Dawn's skirt was so short, and then when she was jumping or running and the skirt rode up her legs it was like something out of a fanservice anime.

The animators were obviously told to never draw full panty shots, but that made it worse because it seemed like she wasn't wearing anything.
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>>31693097
Do it Serena
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>>31693076
She's a career performer. She's not in it for fun like Cal or Furret Girl, she's here to get to the top. That said, she still has some life left in her, unlike some of the other older ones, specifically Not Jessie/Aulas and Schulin.

Speaking of Furret Girl, apparently she collects Route 1 Normal Mons. From SM01.
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>>31693131
>"Don't "oh" me"
What did she mean by this? No seriously, I don't get it.

>>31693147
Good thing she brushes her teeth regularly.
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>>31693264
Dawn woke Ash up for breakfest, but Ash didn't know why so he was like "Oh."

Dawn was snarky with Ash sometimes, they behaved like a real brother and sister. Honestly Dawn should have been retconned in as Ash's half twin sister.
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>>31693285
>Serena is Ash's half-sister too
>Grace is only her adopted mother
>Delia is her mother too
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If Ash and his female companion were ever related, Japan would probably ship them anyway since they love brother/sister incest.
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>>31693255
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>>31693327
It has always happened, Scott
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>>31692841
Embarrassment.

>>31692885
It does not. The reasons you can figure out on your own.
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Who is best girl and why is it everyone but Serena?
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>>31693418
Serena is best girl for Ash, but if you mean the best utilized in the show in terms of screentime and focus, it's Dawn and then May.
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>>31693369
>It does not

Don't fucking kid yourself. There was the scene in the windy valley where Dawn's skirt blew up and they did a slow pan up of it, then there's this.

I'm not saying people should be sexualizing them regularly and have it be OK, but to say the anime has never sexualized them is a filthy lie and you know it.
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>>31693425
>Serena is best girl for Ash
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>>31693285
I get that, but that one looked odd, I guess I don't remember that particular episode that well.

>>31693418
Shut up Amelia, join the ranks of the Swanna girl and the Mightyena girl where you belong.
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>>31693438
She won, deal with it.
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>>31693444
I actually think that scene is from the very last DP episode, DP191...although I'm not sure.
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>>31691739
Just fuck Lillie already, Ash. It won't get any better than this.
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>>31693446
>a one-sided kiss means she won

Then Latias already won, long before that.
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>>31693435
Yep. There's been fanservice in every saga. Even Misty had a ton in her swimsuits, goldeen outfit, and sometimes the camera focused on her ass/legs.

There's no reason for boobs to be this big otherwise.
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>>31693470
Latias wasn't on the lips, or canon.
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>>31693481
You don't get to decide the rules.
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>>31693470
Agreed. Latias won the Ashbowl.
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>>31693470
The staff says otherwise and they decide.
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>>31693487
Nobody is saying any rules, it's just that what latias did is objectively less powerful or canon than what Serena did. And Serena actually traveled with him and got to know him.
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>>31693502
Tomioka pls stop replying
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>>31693502
What staff, because the only person who had a say, is no longer in a position of power to do so.
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>>31693502
To say that the staff's word is canon is the same as saying Shudo's word is canon, meaning that anyone old enough to own Pokémon is an adult, meaning that we're not sexualizing underaged girls unless we're talking about Bonnie or one of her peers.

You can't pick and choose to believe one staff member and not another. If one is canon then they're both canon. If one isn't canon then neither is canon.
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It's times like this I'm really happy the writers didn't have Misty kiss Ash on the cheek at any point in the OS. God we would have never been allowed to live it down by the Pokeshippers. They have already been obnoxious enough over the last 15 years, but imagine if Misty kissed him in the second movie, or in her last ep?

We really dodged a bullet. Even if she still left the series forever, we would have had to listen to that gloating forever.
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>>31693508
Serena is also objectively shit, so disregard her accomplishments.
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>>31693521
>>31693517
>the only person who had a say
What about Shukichi Kanda and anon-Producer?
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>>31693533
Kanda thought having a crush on Ash was all Serena needed for the first 59 episodes, his opinion is invalid.
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>>31693508
Besides, the movies are so farfetched with their plots and not really essential to the main series's story. The convention has been that they might as well not be canon.
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>>31693548
ORAS
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>>31693550
>Mewtwo tied into the anime
>Lugia explicitly referred to in Orange Islands and Slowking got a special
>Deoxys was mentioned in BF, and Drew comes from the city featured in that movie
>Ash and his aura has been referred to many times since
>Dawn's Luna Wing in the Darkrai episode

If some of them are canon they're all canon.
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>>31693564
>thinking that's a good enough reason to have a useless character for a fucking year. A whole fucking year, man, come on.
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>>31693598
You do realize it doesn't matter now that the episodes are done and you can marathon through them, right? For example when people rewatch XY they won't be sitting there for a year for Serena to do something, only 2 weeks or however long it takes them to watch 59 episodes.
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Why are people surprised Amour became canon when Serena is the only love interest Ash has had in almost 20 years?
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>>31693521
Except there aren't contradicting words in this case.
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>>31693633
It matters because the end of the Tripokalon quest got rushed at the end because it started too late.
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>>31693587
Or they might as well not, it doesn't matter. None of those elements are relevant to the main series at large. Except for maybe Mewtwo's escape, but that was part of the OS's weirdness.
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>>31693587
All except one version of Victini, of course. They can't both be canon.
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>>31693663
The one with Ash and Reshiram is canon. Damon woke Zekrom prior to the movie, therefore it could have electrocuted Pikachu in the first episode.

The Reshiram and Zekrom from the N arc are a different pair.
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Would the Sinnoh Trilogy be considered canon since every movie was based off the last?
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May: AG33 A Rival For Haruka! Intensive Pokémon Contest Training!! (Drew's debut )
Serena: XY21 Debut! Serena and Fokko on Pokévision! (Aria's debut )
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>>31693693
Darkrai is because Dawn still has her Lunar Wing in the Cresselia episode, and Shaymin might as well be, since I don't think anyone is surprised to see one in the Marley episode. Arceus is another story, though the fact that Ash knows what Arceus' pendent is in the Hoopa movie, this is the only place he could have seen it.
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>>31693634
It isn't canon outside of its own season though, and stop trying to pass it off like it is.
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>>31693701
Does that mean the Hoopa movie is canon? That was probably the least accurate and non-canon movie in the whole series. The whole movie was a plot hole.
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>>31693634
>Who is Moe, Aoi, and Lila?
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>>31693717
Personally I'd prefer it if it wasn't because goddamn it's awful, but either way the Arceus movie is at least canon to the Hoopa movie.
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>>31693704
Why wouldn't it be?
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>>31693717
Diancie doesn't really have anything to dispute it's canonicity (apart from being awful, but it's less awful than Hoopa). Volcanion may not be because Squishy achieves his ultimate form, despite that I think it's explicitly stated in the Flare Arc (I haven't actually watched it in full) that both cores are needed to achieve the form.
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>>31693727
Irrelevant characters.
I like Anabel and Macy though.
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>>31693754
Because he'd have to kill himself for his losing ship if it were, which so far it goes either way.
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>>31693754
Because no ship in Pokemon is canon outside of its own season.
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>>31693790
Nothing in Pokemon seems to be canon outside its own season any more. Excluding established things like Mr. Mime and Oak etc.
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>>31693790
What if Serena makes a cameo and they continue throwing amour moments ?
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>>31693754
The only major character so far who has brought with them subplots from other seasons is Dawn I'm pretty sure... Don't remember much of May or Misty t b h.
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>>31693782
Well, relevant enough to destroy that anon's argument must be worth something, I suppose.

>not liking the boy-girl
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>>31693704
>It isn't canon outside of its own season though, and stop trying to pass it off like it is.
is this nigger serious?
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>>31693805
???

Misty's stint in Hoenn was all about Togepi and it finally evolving. When May appeared in Sinnoh we got to see all her pokemon, they showed Drew/Harley watching her on TV, we were told she won 3 ribbons in Johto, she and Ash re-reunited the split ribbon,

How do you think they didn't bring their subplots with them?
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>>31693550
Do you realize how stupid you sound? Who cares if people feel it's not "essential." Canon is canon, and it doesn't matter whether it's "essential." Otherwise every filler episode would be considered non-canon.
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>>31693804
Serena and amour moments kind of go hand in hand. It'd be odd if they didn't throw in as least one jab at it.
It's canon, but not overtly so. So in a way, it went the way of the movies.
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>>31693790
You mean saving for the fact that any other "ship" isn't a thing made deliberatedly by the staff and that Serena has feelings for Ash.

>replying
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Where was Iris' cameo? Did people hate her so much they screwed her over?
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>>31693521
>To say that the staff's word is canon is the same as saying Shudo's word is canon
Except it's not. Yajima had approval from the producers to say what he said. Shudo didnt have approval. He just wrote all that in his own personal novelisation and in his blogs years after he had left the show.

So no, they're not the same at all. Yajima's words are official. Shudo's words are not.
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>>31693790
Pathetic.
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>>31693805
May's reason to leave and find her own contest style was brought up in DP too.

Tomioka wrote most of the Wallace Cup episodes, he directly brought up the plots he did with May back in AG.
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Screw amour. Post Serena worried for Ash.
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>>31693839
You keep making reference to the staff as though they have set amour in stone, which they haven't. They only said to indulge your own headcanon.
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>>31693822
Filler episodes are part of the main series because they happen within the main series. Movies do not, therefore their relevance is naturally brought into question. So far they've been pretty benign and distant, so you can go either way with the canon issue and still come up with nothing of importance to the main series in the end.

>Canon is canon, and it doesn't matter whether it's "essential."
Tell that to the people up there who keep being dodgy about Serena winning or not.
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>>31693899
>nothing of importance
In any event, most places consider the movies to be canon, with the exception of that one movie with two versions.

Adamant has also said repeatedly they are canon and part of the continuity.
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>>31693899
Of course Serena won. The people saying otherwise are just autistic idiots who won't accept her winning until the get a signed affidavit from every person who's ever worked on the anime.
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The moment Serena was introduced into Ash's childhood it was already over.
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>>31693892
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>>31693895
That's completely and utterly wrong.
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>>31693917
Adamant does not figure into this discussion.
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>>31693980

>NO
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>>31693982
Then let's settle this once and for all. This is my wife. My wife is canon, therefore her movie is canon. If one is canon then they're all canon.
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>>31693932
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>>31694005
If that movie is canon I'm quitting. There is no way that disgrace is canon...
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>>31694092
Maybe it's only the pre-movie special that's canon then. Barza comes back a week or two later and says he couldn't find the bottle, the end.
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>>31694053
>tfw she almost cried in the last panel
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>>31693982
>the words of someone who knows more about the anime than anyone in this thread don't matter
>but yours do
That's...not how it works, anon.
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>>31693502
I have the "tomorrow" theme enabled in my browser, and the black background really makes the residual background colors left on the outlines stand out. Maybe I will clean up this 'rena a bit...
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why does Kodai from the Zoroark movie give me Alec Baldwin vibes
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>>31694102
Ash doesn't deserve her
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>>31694102
Well in that episode she did tear up so yeah.
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>>31691133
XYZ was hype as fuck because it was full of promises
>Ash at the top of his game, using some actual strategies
>Fully evolved team including a special snowflake SmogonFrog
>Hype as fuck opening
>Main girl is ACTUALLY in love with him
>It was revealed that SM wouldn't have a traditional gym/league format, leading many to believe Ash had a genuine shot at a victory since they'd have him face brand new challenges in Alola anyway, especially when Ash-Greninja started holding his own against the fucking champ before the heart attack
And then it all came crashing down, leaving a sour taste in many people's mouth. Hype is only good if there's a satisfying payoff to it, and memefrog jobbing to edgezard was all but satisfying. You can't lure people along like this and expect them to be happy when you crush their hopes and dreams.
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>>31694240
Nobody will ever be able to convince me that it wasn't some fucker higher up telling them 'no he can't win' that did that.
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>>31694129
>knows more about the anime than anyone in this thread
That's a very dangerous assumption. I'd watch myself if I were you, you're starting to sound like an idiot.
Adamant is as much of a fan and knowledgeable about the anime as any other. The fact that he deals with Pokemon info every day does not factor in the reliability of his subjective stances.

Don't put him on a pedestal just because he subs your shit.
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>>31694240
It still hurts. and I will forever be disappointed.
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>>31694379
>Adamant is as much of a fan and knowledgeable about the anime as any other
>knowing whether the movies are canon is a "subjective stance"
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>>31694444
And here we go again...

Bring something more to the table.
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>>31694450
Adamant IS right about this, though. Besides, the issue here isn't whether Adamant is "infallible." No suggestion that he's infallible was ever made.

The question is why people here should believe you (or whoever it was) over him, when he knows his shit and you or whoever is basically making a "well, they don't seem to be canon to me, they're not essential to the plot of the TV series..." argument, which really isn't an argument so much as it's a, "I don't believe it can be like that, therefore it isn't like that" statement.
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>>31694444
can't argue with these quads
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>>31694444
Quads of truth right here
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>>31693657
>Or they might as well not
That's not an argument. They occur in the anime's basic continuity, and many of the movies are referenced or alluded to in the anime. This isn't something that's really debatable anymore.

From time to time, people on Serebii try to dredge up this tired old subject, and I remember at least one of them recently got shut down by the moderators because it's a settled issue.

The only people who still "debate" this are autists on forums like these who are thinking way too hard about this. It's usually people saying, "Well, these things don't have much impact on the TV show, oh, and Ash in this anime episode doesn't remember this specific thing from a movie that aired nine years ago, so how can they all be canon?" It's all a big argument from incredulity, which is a classic logical fallacy. The movies (all except M14, anyway) are as canon as any filler episode is. The fact that you see it first in a theater first instead of on TV isn't pertinent here.
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I'm not a daily poster here, just want to know the ratings of the pancake race episode.
I only watch 3.7 and up.
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>>31694824
Fuck off.
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>>31694516
>Adamant IS right about this, though.
Burden of proof. Adamant is no official source, which leads me to:

>Besides, the issue here isn't whether Adamant is "infallible."
You're right, it's about "why was he brought up in an issue where he has no relevance or authority?".


There are a couple of inconsistencies in the movies that overall muddy up the overall canon of the series. For the sake of keeping things more in-house (that means only blaming the TV series for contradicting itself down the road instead of having a promotional extension mess with the lore of the main product), the safest bet is to keep the movies out.

The movies are flashy stuff and they sometimes have to do shit they wouldn't do otherwise in the main canon. That's fine as long as they're kept contained.
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>>31691167
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>>31691167
DP Dawn best girl
BW Dawn worst girl
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>>31694859
>>31694379
>le "movies aren't canon" meme
Who fucking let Neogaf and IGN leak over here again?
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>>31695018
Best to just ignore him at this point. He's pretty much spouting the same old bullshit that every confused autist always does anytime the movies come up.
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>>31695036
I'm amazed people are still denying the movies being canon after so fucking long. This shit should've stopped years ago, but it seems to never go away.
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>>31695084
I mean on the one hand, the movie references in the TV series are limited, but that's mainly for the sake of the viewer, not to separate the movies into their own continuity.

There are some instances where there's blatant crossover from the movies into the TV series, though, so it pretty much becomes impossible at that point to seriously suggest the movies exist outside the main anime continuity.
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>>31695036
Go fuck yourself, you condescending piece of shit.
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>>31695113
Duplica pls go
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>>31695107
It can if the crossover is just for promotional reasons and the main continuity handles things in its own way.
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>>31695113
He's right though, not his fault you're full of shit.
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>>31695113
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>>31695113
WEW LAD
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>>31695134
It's not for promotional reasons anon
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Looks like the (You) brigade is coming.

Well, it was a nice chat, all things considered.
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>>31695143
Like hell it's not.
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>>31695151
Go back and watch them. There are instances where things or items acquired in the movie soon appear in the TV series and actually play a role in the show.

This isn't a simple "vague concept from movie is briefly mentioned for shilling purposes" type of crossover.
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Good night.
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>>31695179
Meant to say "people or items"
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>>31695266
Didn't leave completely, I see.

If they did, then leave it the fuck alone .
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>>31695283
Thanks for the (You). Here, have one yourself. :^)
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>>31693446
This "won" shit again.Call me when she marries Ash.
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KEK
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So is this Cruella DeVil's father or what? She's not his mother, because his mother is in the movie and it's not her.
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>>31695640
Okay...?
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I want to protect that smile.
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>>31695728
She has an onee-san for that. Though the onee-san could use a smile-protector of her own.
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>>31695728
Never mind I'm an idiot, the waifu wars girl IS named Cyn Lee after all.
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>>31695760
They're siblings like Cilan, Cress and Chili. She's the blue one, but she prefers to wear a more natural color when she's not with the family.
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>>31695765
Swannafag is that you?
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>>31695775
Maybe.
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>>31695780
Claiming Cyn Lee for myself then
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>>31695765
Her outfit is pure sex
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>>31695792
She's all yours.
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Rate my wife.
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>>31695780
Are you a Burger? A Brit? An Aussie? A europoor? You're always here at ded o'clock /padt/ time.
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>>31695810
>>>/a/
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>>31695810
>Vivid Kiss

Is she going to different shows for Happy Stars now or something? Vivid in Pokémon when?
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>>31695817
Sheepfucker actually. It's 12:30am here at the moment.
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>>31695302
She won
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>>31695827
>Vivid Kiss in Pokemon
Never
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>>31695832
Hi Adamant

I still can't fucking believe she won
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I love the animation, really I love it lol
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>>31695824
Not this shit again
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>>31695829
>>31695780
Will she ever win? Or is she doomed to perpetual failure?
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>>31695876
She won a spot on one of Pokemon.com's episode thumbnails. Otherwise probably not.
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>>31695810
who??
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>>31695886
>>31695780
>wanting someone doomed to fail as your wife
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>>31695906
Someone has to prevent her from killing herself. Besides, if she's doomed to fail at everything that includes making babies, meaning we can have unprotected sex without fear.
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>>31695910
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>>31695910
>implying she won't also fail at sex too
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>>31695910
Are Swanna girl and Cal up for a 3-way?
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>>31695924
Swanna Girl probably would be if you were good at persuasion and knew what to say to her, but I don't think Cal would be.
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>>31695930
>implying both wouldn't agree if you frame it as a tripokalon performance
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>>31695942
>>31695924
Of course Cal could have a threeway with herself.
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>>31695942
Swanna Girl would because she'd be that desperate to at least advance to the second round, but Cal strikes me as someone who wouldn't do anything she didn't want to do. Why do you think Nene got more votes than her? Nene was willing to put out, Cal wasn't.

The only ones you'd see at a sex-act Tripokalon are the old ones like Amelia, Aulas, Shulin and Mightyena Girl.
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>>31695886
She got cucked from PokeTV though
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>Tripokalonposting is back

Makes me feel happy.
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>>31696021
Now you're making me miss XY again ;_;
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>>31696026
I still want a XY&Z animation artbook, goddamnit.
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>>31696026
I miss Blanchefag
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I miss Sophocles
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>>31696053
I miss Jessicafag.
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>>31696026
>>31696053
I miss taking literal one-screen shots of characters and working out their backgrounds, like that Smeargle Girl lives with her Grandmother and has low self-esteem and a lot of self-doubt. Made it that much more satisfying to see her reach the finals of what seemed to be her first Tripokalon.

Not hard to imagine her acting like Recorder Girl from last week's eggs.
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>tfw your pokefu's voice actress returns only to voice a despicable bitch (Amelia)

It hurts.
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>>31696110
>tfw some people thought she was Yashio's apprentice who was thrown to the curb the second she lost one
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>>31696110
2ch has actually been talking a bit about how the show has been reusing a lot of VAs lately. Who knows, she might return.
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I think there are 2 new titles, fake or not? i don't know

3/2 #16「小さな三匹、大きな冒険!!」
海辺でポケモンと遊ぶサトシたち。モクローとアシマリがいっしょにバルーンに入ってはしゃいでいると、
ふとした拍子にバルーンはモクローとアシマリを入れたままどこかへ飛ばされてしまう。迷子になって
困っている2体の前に、野生のニャビーが現れる。どうやら元の場所に連れていってくれるようだが……。
冨岡淳広 高橋知也 高橋知也 難波功と宮田忠明

3/9 #17「アローラ探偵ロトム!消えたクリスタルの謎!!」
ポケモンスクールに登校したサトシは、デンキZがなくなっていることに気づく。慌てるサトシの前に
ロトムがやってきて、デンキZ探しを手伝ってくれると申し出た。探偵ドラマにハマっているロトムは、
名探偵のように謎を解決したいという。
松井亜弥 渡辺正彦 浅田裕二 直井由紀と夏目久仁彦

says something about mokurou lost
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>>31696125
That would be great, but I doubt it will happen soon, since she is currently voicing important characters in the current season. I will still hope Nami gets to be remembered, at least.
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>>31696130
>yfw she also voiced some slutty bitch who takes her sister's school uniform to get her boyfriend off with before sex.

She really does need to come back and voice a better girl.
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>>31696129
seems real, but i don't want it to be because they are boring fillers.
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>>31696129
Sauce, anon? They look real-ish
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>>31696156
I think this is the source http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/anime/10020/
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>>31696129
Mallow cucked again
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>>31696158
so are these real?
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>March 2nd: SM16 - A Tiny Trio on a Big Adventure!!
>Satoshi and his friends are playing with their Pokémon on the beach. But when Mokuroh and Ashimari have fun by entering a balloon together, the balloon suddenly gets blown off somewhere with the two of them still inside. A wild Nyabby then appears before the lost duo. They somehow make it take them back to where they came from, but...

>March 9th: SM17 - Alola Detective Rotom! The Mystery of the Lost Crystal!!
>When Satoshi arrives at the Pokémon School, he notices that his Electric-Z has gone missing. Rotom approaches the panicking Satoshi, offering to help search for it. Rotom is crazy about crime shows, and says it wants to solve a mystery just like a detective does.
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>>31696227
16 could be good. 17 sounds awful.
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>>31696227
didn't you love those awful Detective Dent episodes? now there is more but with a even more shitty character!!
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>>31696223
Definitely. We knew we were getting new titles from Newtype etc one of these days anyway.
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>>31696255
I liked them, anon...
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>>31696227
>Mokuroh Gets Lost!
>Detective Dent
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>>31696344
At least Popplio could show some personality
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>>31696227
Cast list? Are Omode,Tomioka and Matsui still the only writers?
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Damn, SM really is starting to go into filler hell. A real shame.
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SM15:
>Animation Director 岩根雅明 (Masaaki Iwane)
>Animation Director 志村泉 (Izumi Shimura)
>Episode Director 浅田裕二 (Yūji Asada)
>Screenplay 冨岡淳広 (Atsuhiro Tomioka)
>Storyboard 浅田裕二 (Yūji Asada)

SM16:
>Animation Director 難波功 (Isao Namba)
>Animation Director 宮田忠明 (Tadaaki Miyata)
>Episode Director 高橋知也 (Tomoya Takahashi)
>Screenplay 冨岡淳広 (Atsuhiro Tomioka)
>Storyboard 高橋知也 (Tomoya Takahashi)

SM17:
>Animation Director 直井由紀 (Yuki Naoi)
>Animation Director 夏目久仁彦 (Kunihiko Natsume)
>Episode Director 渡辺正彦 (Masahiko Watanabe)
>Screenplay 松井亜弥 (Aya Matsui)
>Storyboard 浅田裕二 (Yūji Asada)
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You have 30 seconds to name a sexier pokégirl and more fitting gf for Ash than Lillie

Oh right you can't
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Also, new summary for SM15:
>One night, Satoshi returns home to find that Iwanko, who had been watching the house, has been injured. He tries setting up a surveillance camera to find out the reason for this. And then, as the two of them watch excitedly, Iwanko goes outside. And when they hurry after it, they see an unepected spectacle take place right before their eyes.
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SM has new titles revealed and nobody cares. Hot damn, this really is the next BW. What a waste of 3 years.
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>>31696388
SM16 is by Tomioka, and his previous Litten episode was one of the best SM episodes yet.
Actually looking forward to this one.
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>>31696443
Go away, Scott.
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>>31696444
It doesn't sounds like Ash will get it here either, that would be anti climatic as fuck
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>>31696404
>SM15:
>Animation Director 岩根雅明 (Masaaki Iwane)
>Animation Director 志村泉 (Izumi Shimura)
>Episode Director 浅田裕二 (Yūji Asada)
>Screenplay 冨岡淳広 (Atsuhiro Tomioka)
>Storyboard 浅田裕二 (Yūji Asada)

oi
This one might be pretty important then.
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>>31696452
Maybe not, but I'm glad its story is brought back up again.
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>>31696455
I don't think so. The Pancham episode who was also used to show the starters was written by Tomioka
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>>31696479
SM15 is the Iwanko episode, anon.
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I want hype ;_;
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I just don't understand how the same writers from XY and before that are purposely making the show worse. Tomioka must be depressed or something after getting cucked during the ending of DP and XY by the execs.
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>>31696416
Serena.
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>>31696494
Tomioka seems to be in charge of the Litten plot, which is one of the more interesting things going on in SM at the moment.
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>>31696483
oh, maybe it's evolving? I have seen some SM merch with Lycanroc
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>>31696511
Could be, especially since that "Satoshi VS Kukui" title just got proven false.
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I'm surprised Ash still isn't capturing a second new pokemon. Is he going to go the entire saga with just Rowlett?
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New bred, added new titles and summaries:
>>31696533
>>31696533
>>31696533
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>>31696497
>over 13 minutes late

Serena is finished
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>>31696556
So as your brain! faglord
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