SM sucks.

XY and ORAS

X/Y was worse. Nobody likes the retard squad and it has the most forgettable characters in the series.

>>31665245
SuMoFAG.

>>31665225
xy

dumb mina poster

>>31665249
X/Y was comfy and the region was colorful and cute with lots of stuff to explore and good post game, SM has nothing going on for it even the music was better in X/Y.

>>31665257
Le XY was bad because chibi le meme.

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>>31665245
>>31665257
>>31665249
>X/Y
>Just inject,LOL.

>>31665225
Because Alola has the worst level design of any region yet, a shit story because it's extremely prevalent, fails to make sense at critical points and is full of missed opportunities and the content and features generally suck, e.g the Poké Finder is pointless and unfun and the Festival Plaza is cancer.

>>31665353
THIS!!! At last someone who doesn't fall for the SM is good meme.

>>31665262
Serebii has an awful layout. They could make that site easier to sift through

>>31665277
SM's palette is definitely more vibrant

I enjoyed X and Y more after all is said and done. It was novel at the time and plenty of fellow kids were playing it, it was like Pokemania was back. Plus with instacheck it felt like more of a community, especially since the 3ds wasn't blown the fuck open with save editors just yet, so you could go online for pokemon with your SV , or your friend's SV or help some fag from halfway across the world with his shit.

It was a simpler time. It was a better time

>>31665402
NO, see this: >>31665353

>>31665381
good layouts are for normies with their gophones. I have no problem using serebii

much more cancerous is web 2.0 shit that hides content from you intentionally, like a channel's list of youtube videos on youtube where you have to either click a button again and again over the course of 5 minutes or just get an addon to do it for you

>>31665277
>xy had a good post game
??????????

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>>31665413
>NO
>I was agreeing with SM being shit

??????????????????????

>>31665432
>SUMO.

>>31665459
>xy had a good post game
????????????

The one good thing about SM is that it turned me into a piratefag (at least when it comes to Pokémon games) who probably will save some money in the future.

I don't care if this shit sells a billion copies, I'm not buying it.

Fuck Pokémon Sun.
Fuck Pokémon Moon.
Fuck Pokémon Generation VII.

Long live the Pokémon I used to love!

>>31665489
Well said!! Gamefreak ain't getting my money anymore after 3 rushed games.

>>31665476
>SUMO

>>31665225
Because SM took away every good things about gen 6 and replaced them with steaming piles of shit.

>>31665521
>xy had a good post game
???????????????

>>31665522
Festival plaza's minigames are the worst by far.

>>31665225
XY was undisputedly the worse. SM is mediocre, but it is merely the product of XY digging the series into a hole that will take it ages to slowly crawl out of.

Have shitposters stopped trying? This is one of the lowest energy SM hate threads I've ever seen. At least look like you actually dislike it.

>hardly any Pokemon
>bank wasn't released until two seconds ago, months after game release, thus couldn't transfer
>alolan forms are mostly shit, either viability-wise or aesthetics-wise
>hardly any alolan forms
>alolan forms are inherently tied to alola, no telling what will happen to them in future games
>6 of the new Pokemon (of which there are hardly any) are memepokemon from another dimension that don't even follow the design conventions of normal pokemon
>post-game is literally my mom's tree
>my mom's tree is a wannabe PWT with only about 5 trainers from old games, chosen completely at random
>no viable way to level up post-game, while you are required to level to 100 to use one of the only good things added
>half the megas flat-out removed from the game and are now event pokemon instead of the event berries
>opens up the possibility of certain mega stones simply being removed from game when game freak gets sick of them
>story could take place entirely without you because it's just gladion and lillie solving their family problems
>missing areas fucking everywhere
>no complex caves
>no complex areas period
>no sense of discovery
>no national dex
>PSS and join avenue combined into eldritch abomination that only has the worst elements of both minus all the good
>said eldritch abomination is completely separated from the single player world, so you have to choose between them
>level curve fucked to hell and back
>barafur starter
>waifumon starter
>only starter not catering to furfag sexuality is still slow as fuck and thus unviable
I can go on and on and on

literally what's to like about these games

>>31665540
>>SUMO

>>31665555
Can you go on about why you wasted those quads?

>>31665522
That's my biggest complaint. The bottom screen was awesome last gen. They downgraded to a talking map. They could have at least let me use the rotomdex in battle, god damn

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>>31665555
Those fucking quads wasted.
You forgot to mention having the villian win actually makes things safer than making her lose, meaning there is no real reason to stop her

>>31665546
>shitposters
Not everyone likes shit AKA SuMo ,Anon.
>>31665555
THIS!!

>>31665588
The real villain was Lillie she used you the whole game just so she can save her mommy and after that you get dumped like the trash this game is.

>>31665555
>alolan forms are inherently tied to alola, no telling what will happen to them in future games

I've been curious about that too. Wonder how breeding will work in future generations for these alolan forms.

>>31665618
>save her mommy
More like "ruin her dreams"

>>31665632
Lillie is by far the worst pokemon character ever, I even like Zinnia more than her.

>>31665667
I can see why Lillie exists, but here is the reason why.
People hated Zinnia, so game freak made the EXACT OPPOSITE the next game. Right down to the color scheme even.

>>31665683
game freak doesn't care what some guys on /vp/ think about zinnia and lillie was likely far into development before they even found that out

>>31665683
Lillie a shit.

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>>31665277
>good post game
>even the music was better in X/Y.

>>31665588
Lillie in general just pisses me off because she's such a ninja'd mary sue where her "development" or conflict doesn't mean jack shit because you do all the work while her issues doesn't directly cause any real struggle in its own right. Also normies coincidentally just GUSH how great of a character she is. No, she is a great adorable waifu that I like for that, but thats it.

>>31665489
Then don't buy the game, its that simple
You won't make any difference anyway

>>31665225
(you)

>>31665968
>>31666034
Bump

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>>31665225
Because they took away training, I kind of liked that because I can make my pokemon into monsters

Also I want to cum inside Mina

>>31666854
Yep. Im not ev training this gen until I get a pokemon with the pokerus. Just seems too tedious otherwise.

>>31665225
You can Re_battle NPCs once you beat them the first time.

>>31666268

>>31665249
At least X/Y brought forth great innovation.

>>31665249
>forgettable characters in the series.
Better being forgettable than forced messes like Lillie.

>>31667853
>forced messes like Lillie.
Lillie is the true protagonist on SM story. Your post is like to say that Cloud is forced in FF7.

>>31667877
>Your post is like to say that Cloud is forced in FF7.

If Cloud didn't fight or did anything useful in the whole story besides filling the screen with boring, pointless text.

Either way, if I wanted to play a generic JRPG with a boring protagonist I would play literally any other JRPG series.

>>31666882
Just inject. I'm being serious.

>>31667853
THIS!!

>>31666882
>beating 28 pokemon to fully train 2 evs is too tedious
>putting them in the pelago to train them is too tedious
for fuck's sake, anon

>>31665277

Kalos was shit, all the kalos characters were shit, a lot of the kalos pokemon were shit, and it had the least content of any game.

the features weren't half bad, but ORAS used them better.

>>31668519
>Just inject, LOL.

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>>31668538
SuMo is worse, The only good stuff about it are the lolis

I like sun and moon and especially like Lillie.
What, do people seriously play Pokemon for a power fantasy or "everything is about me!!!" feelings?

>>31668570
We play it because we like to play videogames not because we enjoy watching the worst movie ever.

>>31665225
Literally every first new generation game sans GS, though C got almost nothing new instead.

t. person who play this since yellow

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>>31668566
so what's so good about lolis anon?
>>31668604
>Whenever someone brings up lillie their argument for why she's bad is "WHY AM I A SIDE CHARACTER?"
>Now when someone calls them out on it it's "I JUST WANNA PLAY GAMES IT'S NOT POWER FANTASY OR ANYTHING"
fucking faaaaantastic

>>31665225
DP.
RS close second.

>>31665225
Because you're a contrarian, anon. You can't enjoy nice things. Don't worry though, you're not alone.

>>31668728
GAY

>>31668519
31.5 without items, since those are gated behind bp, and I'm not doing battle tree until I have ev trained pokemon. That's including pokerus, chaining, and 2 ev's per pokemon, so 8 ev's per kill. As I said, I'm not ev training unless I get pokerus.

Without pokerus, that's 4 ev's per kill. 63 kills per maxed stat. No thanks. Haven't really looked into poke pelago. I doubt it's really much better, but I will take a look

>>31666882
There's an exploit that literally allows you to fully EVS train something in 3 minutes. Find the thread.

>no re-battling trainers in SM
How can you duck up this bad

>>31667927
Anon, you didnt play any of the FF7 games, did you?

>>31668810
*fuck

>>31668604
This. Battling is fun. There has never been an interesting pokemon story.

>>31668818
I did. Go ahead and explain how Cloud is even remotely similar to Lillie.

>>31668805
I'll start searching. Thanks

>>31668885
How about the fact that he literally did nothing in any way shape or form prior to standing up to Sephiroth, which is analogous to Lillie/Lusamine. This is exemplified by Squeenix going back and making you play the character that did everything in Crisis Core.
Zack is Sun. Cloud is Lillie.

>>31667927
>did anything useful
Along with you, she's the main driving force of the story. I'd count that as useful.
But wait, no battling. My bad, that's where line is drawn between being useful or not.

>>31668945
But anon, Cloud physically fought Sephiroth. That's what truly matters. Lillie just opposed Lusamine and brought others to fight her. She didn't do it herself.

>>31668810
THIS!! That made the game even more shit than it already is even X/Y let you have so me fun after the main game

>>31665225
>What's the worst pokemon game
Diamond and Pearl.
Closely followed by Platinum.
Closely followed by HGSS.

Of course, that's only speaking objectively. With nostalgia as a factor it's all down to your personal opinion.

>>31668883
THIS!!

>>31669002
You mean SuMo

>>31668519
>putting them in the pelago to train them is too tedious

Pelago takes days.

>>31669041
It takes 3 minutes senpai

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>Still butthurted about the fact of Sun/Moon being one of the best reviewed games from Pokemon franchise in long time just like BW and mostly acclaimed for its dynamic and the old yet refreshing essence

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>>31669065
You know you've lost when you pull the sales argument.

>>31669049
>>31669041
>>31668804
Set clock to 12:55 on 31 Jan 2017. Put mons in pelago, send mons on cave quest, plant berries.
When it rolls over to Feb all of it is done.

>>31669108
You know you've lost when you've pull the "you pulled this argument" argument

>>31669065
>SOS battles are literally just wild Double battles which B/W already did.
>Kahuna's are just overhyped Gym Leaders
>Trials are just boring Gym puzzles with a wild Totem Pokemon battle at the end

Game Freak hyped up Sun & Moon as these refreshing games but they're not even much that different from older games in the series.

>>31669132
If anything they are more tedious

>>31669108
I didn't use the sales argument. I did use the popular and not autistic belief

>>31669123
NO U

>>31668883
Well you're the one battling, not Lillie, so shouldn't be a problem.

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>>31665225
I don't think SM was a bad game, I enjoyed it a lot, especially the singleplayer story. Oddly lacking in online however, but it's still an excellent game.

As far as the one I liked the least, I'll have to say gen 3. Had great designs but they marked a very strange trend in pokemon designs and a lackluster singleplayer campaign, combined with having none of the online features later gens enjoyed. Other gens had features I really enjoyed (1/2 were basically the same thing but 4 had the new online, 5 had a few characters I enjoyed in progression and had extra GTS sections, 6 had excellent online and pretty graphics to make up for the awful singleplayer campaign).

>>31669132
That's the point. It's still a Pokemon game.

>>31669195
Right, that's why I set text speed to fast and just tap the A button during cut scenes and dialogue.

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>>31669231
>but it's still an excellent game.
Being this delusional

>>31669253
Delusional? About what?

>>31669273
>SuMo

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>>31665489
Well said, anonbro. Everyone on this board is right with you. Down with the Sonic 06 of Pokemon!

>>31665225
>>31665277
>>31665353
>>31665380
>>31665413
>>31665439
>>31665522
>>31665555
>>31665588
>>31665602
>>31665667
>>31665981
>>31666854
>>31668566
>>31668604
>>31669040
>>31669132
I think at this point it's already well established that SuMo are the most hated games in the series, considering the massive amount of people in this thread rejecting it for the abomination it is.

Pokemon is headed towards the grave at this point, and we will make sure it stays on that path.

>>31669288
Ah, I see. However, I did not use "SuMo" and rather used the correct terminology of "SM," so there is nothing to be upset about. I hope this has cleared things up.

So many (You)s. So little time.

>>31669298
>3/4 of the games in the image are not even out
what does this mean?

>>31669315
I think he's more referring to the fact that you're blatantly shilling one of the worst things in all of media.

>>31669065
>you should try eating shit sometime, a million flies can't be wrong!

>>31669315
SUMO, also this: >>31669298

>>31669298
>SuMo are the most hated games in the serie
>source:my ass

Samefagging doesn't count

>>31669343
Ah, well we'll let the little fellow interpret it for himself.
What do you mean "worst things in all of media?" I would like some clarification.
>>31669349
I apologize, but I did not receive a reply from that anon and I also ask that you read my post again, as I used the correct term of "SM."

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>>31669352
Try reading the post again. Notice the long stack of replies speaking out against SuMo. You can't miss it.

SM has been one of the greatest game I have played and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>31669389
>A hand full of idiots posting the same thread every day for the last 3 months
>LOOK AT ALL THESE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THEIR OPINION

Criticism is one thing, my dude. Being this retarded is another.

>>31669386
>SUMO

>>31669389
>the long stack of replies speaking out
>the long stack of replies speaking out
You are not even quotng individual replies. Most of those replies are replying to other people's so as far as I'm concerned it even can be the same guy replaying to every good opinion about SM as much as it triggers you.

>>31669414
>>31669492
K.

>>31669492
>>31669548
I think you have sufficiently triggered them lol

>>31669414
>shit has been the greatest food I've eaten and there's nothing you can do about it

>>31669548
Just inject

>>31669562
yes

>>31669571
Not him. But keep crying I need more.

>>31669431
I see. As this is likely an automated response given the repetition, I will take the proper actions as I would against any formerly undetected bot on 4chan. I see I was mistaken hoping to find civil discussion of the generations of pokemon in this thread.

>>31669617
OK

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>GF gives us a new region that was unlike any other we had before
>any attempt at exploration is ruined by being stopped by characters and plot
>story focuses mostly on Lille, the most generic waifubait character
>yet there are much more interesting characters in the game that hardly got any focus
>hype how the region does something different than Gens
>trials just turned out to be watered down gyms
>hardly any dungeons, and the few we have are terribly designed
>character customization is back, but it hasn't improved a bit from XY's

Pretty lame for a 20th anniversary game.

>>31669940
THIS!

>>31665225
Oras, shit postgame is boring as shit

>>31670107
Alright then

>>31669298
>most hated games in the series

Anon said it so it must be true!

>>31665489
Oh shit this guy is not buying the game

Gamefreak is going bankrupt!

>>31665225
D/P is still the worst. I don't HATE SuMo but it just doesn't feel like a pokemon game. I'm glad they tried something different but it was just TOO different. Also the whole world region is fucking minuscule.

>>31665618
>dumped like the trash this game is

Anon if you really want to see anime sex scenes go play a fucking eroge pls

>>31669041
Literally like 12 hours, and you don't gotta do anything

>>31670190
SUMO is still shit

>>31670234
It is if you expect an underage character to fucking date you in a kids game I guess>>31670234