Fixing Shitmons

>>31663617
The bug/flying combo kills it

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Iron Fist / Clear Body / No Guard
Ground/Ghost
HP 110 (+21)
Atk 125 (+1)
Def 85 (+5)
Sp Atk 45 (-10)
Sp Def 80
Spe 75 (+20)
525

Give it a new move:
Rocket Punch - Priority +1 Ground 60 BP 30 PP 100 Acc
And give it:
Mach Punch
Comet Punch
Meteor Mash

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Grass/Ground
Chlorophyll / Water Absorb / Sand Rush
HP 95 (+20)
Atk 105 (+19)
Def 80 (+13)
Sp. Atk 80 (-26)
Sp. Def 80 (+13)
Spe 60
TOTAL 500

NEW MOVES
Horn Leech
Earthquake
Bulldoze
Smack Down
Taunt
Stealth Rock
Rock Tomb
Sandstorm
Mud Bomb
Recover

>>31664991
>60 BP priority move
that's WAAAAAAAAY too powerful, especially with iron fist. make it 40 BP at most.

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HP 80 (+10)
ATK 105 (+15)
DEF 75 (+5)
SP. ATK 50 (-10)
SP. DEF 65 (-5)
SPE 100 (+60)
TOTAL 475

Incineroar
95
115
90 -> 65
80
90 -> 65
60 -> 110

I wanted a fast Baracat it's not fair ;_;

Cinccino

HP: 75
Atk: 95 --> 100 (+5)
Def: 60
SpA: 65
SpD: 60
Spe: 115 --> 120 (+5)

It's already usable, but I think this should atleast guarantee it a decent spot in RU. I would like to see it get arm thrust or atleast one other decent move to abuse skill link with, but that might be too much.

>>31665547
>Sacrificing that much bulk
>On a mon that doesn't even look fast

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Abilities: Chlorophyll / Infilitrator / Contrary
HP: 85 (+15)
Atk: 110 (+5)
Def: 85 (-5)
SpAtk: 40 (-40)
SpDef: 85 (-5)
Spe: 115 (+70)
520
Give it Superpower and Smart Strike.
Enjoy your totem battle kids

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Give it gyro ball.

>>31664991
>STAB 60 BP priority ground move boosted by Iron Fist coming off of 125 attack
Are you nuts?

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MAKE DETECTIVE WORK GREAT AGAIN

HP: 88 -> 99
ATK: 110 -> 118
DEF: 60 -> 70
SPA: 55 -> 60
SPD: 60 -> 70
SPE: 45 -> ONE MOTHER ZERO FUCKING THREE (103)
BST: 418 -> 520

>>31666275
And now that I took a look at Gumshoos' movepool, give the poor fuck elemental biting moves so that he can actually use Strong Jaw for anything but Hyper Fang and Crunch.

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>>31663617
>Drapion
HP: 70 --> 90 (+20)
Atk: 90 --> 105 (+15)
Def: 115 --> 115
SpA: 60 --> 40 (-20)
SpD: 75 --> 75
Spe: 95 --> 105 (+10)
BST: 500 --> 525 (+25)

Alolan-Muk BTFO

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I posted this and some others in another thread, but,
Bug/Fighting
HP 70 (+15)
Atk 100 (+65)
Def 60 (+10)
Sp. Atk 50 (-5)
Sp. Def 70 (-40)
Spe 124 (+39)
474

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HP: 255
ATK: 1
DEF: 255
SP ATK: 255
SP DEF: 255
SPD: 255

>>31666275
>tfw Choice Banded Adaptability Gumshoos wrecking havoc with Adaptability-boosted Thrash off 118 attack with 103 speed
I WANT IT

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>>31666428
>ATK: 1

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Give it Solar Blade
It already has Chlorophyll

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Make Clanging Scales Physical instead of Special.

>>31666178
No, give it Diamond Storm

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>>31665722
this
>>31665547 you suck at logic, a cat that suddenly shifts from quadriped to walking on two legs like a human is obviously gonna be less agile with their legs

>>31668487
No, it needs to stay Special thematically.

What you want instead is it calculates power off the physical attack stat while being a special move in how it hits. Like an inverse Psyshock in a way

>>31663617
>>31664916
Give it a new Ability: Hive Guard/Royal Guard

Negates SE damage from Fire, Rock and Flying. Like a Bug-type Delta Stream

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>>31665803
Special version for Lilligant:
Grass/Fairy
Abilities: Chlorophyll / Own Tempo / Natural Cure
HP: 85 (+15)
Atk: 40 (-20)
Def: 85 (+10)
Sp. Atk: 115 (+5)
Sp. Def: 85 (+10)
Spe: 110 (+20)
520

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>>31663617
I never realized Vespiquen had such a relatively high SpA stat. That was pointless on GF's part.

Anyways,...

Ability: Levitate
Hidden Ability: Aftermath (lore reasons)
HP: 65 -> 85 (+20)
Attack: 90 -> 50 (-40)
Defense: 120
Sp. Attack: 85 -> 105 (+20)
Sp. Defense: 70 -> 90 (+20)
Speed: 60 -> 40 (-20)

BST: 490 -> 490 (no changes)

Learns Roost or Recover.

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literally just give it anything other than slow start and it'll be perfecly viable in competitive play

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Give it Levitate. ;-;

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Add
>Headbutt
>Iron Head
>Head Smash
>Rapid Spin
>Rollout
>Focus Blast
>Ice Beam
>Signal Beam
>Selfdestruct
>Explosion
>U-Turn
to its movepool.

Or, just give it an ability that lets it use Hyper Beam and Giga Impact without restrictions.

This pretty much fixes Klinklang.

>>31668972
>lore reasons

Oh i am sorry mr. obvious

>>31669740
Why no EQ?

Also
>Adding special moves while not increasing its base special attack to a usable degree

>>31670098
>Why no EQ?
A flimsy bundle of gears doesn't look like a thing that can shake the ground.

>Adding special moves while not increasing its base special attack to a usable degree
Giving it this move will fix that issue:
>Rev Up
>Status Move
>10 PP
>+2 Special Attack and +1 Speed

minmaxing: the topic

>>31668972
I really just want him to finally get fire typing some how....

>>31666338

Psychic Fangs too, just cause.

>>31670235
Just give it 100 in both attack stats

>>31668487
Just give it close combat. Boom, it's usable. Autotomize sets get a better physical move to pop blobs, SD/DD/BU sets get a strong move not named outrage. CC is really all it needs to not be total shit.

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>>31663617
Now Water/Fairy. Gets Moonblast.
New Ability: Heart Power (Doubles the power of Special Attacks)
HP: 43 --> 43
Atk: 30 --> 30
Def: 55 --> 55
SpA: 40 --> 70 (+30)
SpD: 65 --> 65
Spe: 97 --> 117 (+20)
BST: 330 --> 380

>>31663617

Make it Bug/Ground and then give it Earth Power, Earthquake and Automize. It's hidden ability is now Queenly Magisty

there, Vespiquen

>>31668731
>this wasn't a thing
>they still made Kommo-o with higher Atk then SpAtk
I want to know who's behind making base stats and movepools.

>>31668720

but then Marshadow is allowed to be the 29th fastest pokemon with its tiny legs. and then we have Gengar who gains legs will evolving but somehow is faster than Haunter, who floats.

plus base 110 aint even fast anymore.

>>31670331
Though I would like the extra STAB, I prefer Weezing as is. Fighting resist, Ground immunity and Rock neutrality is good for a physical wall.

>>31671147
this is so exagerated and makes no sense for the Pokémon

just make it able to attract any Pokémon regardless of gender, even genderless, and give it a good boosting move (Quiver Dance) + Baton Pass

>>31670672
That's no good. It's going to have 550 BST if that happens to be the case.

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>>31663617
>HP : 75 -> 80 (+5)
>Atk: 80 -> 60 (-20)
>Defense: 95 -> 110 (+15)
>Sp. Atk: 90->90
>SpD: 100 -> 110 (+10)
>Spe: 50 -> 50
>BST: 490 -> 500

Gets Fire sub-typing (probably also give it to Sunny Cherrim and Sunflora?) Dancer as second Ability (also give second Abilities to the rest of family to be fair), some Fire-type moves (like Fiery Dance, fuck Volcarona).
Attack is lowered as it seems like it's trying to be the defensive part of the branch, and yet it has the same Attack as Vileplume.

>>31668795
Just give her coverage and she's good, no need for all that.

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>>31671147
Let me try:

>Luvdisc
Typing: Water/Fairy
Ability: Friend Guard/ Swift Swim
Hidden Ability: Triage
HP: 43 -> 53
Attack: 30
Defense: 50 -> 60
Sp. Attack: 40
Sp. Defense: 65 -> 75
Speed: 97

BST: 330 -> 360

New Moves: Heal Pulse (as a level up), Helping Hand, Follow Me, Healing Wish

Now it at least has a niche in 2vs2

>>31672245
Considering Friend Guard doesn't increase its own bulk, its shit.

>>31668795
Really all she needs is more moves. Her current move set is what kills her.

>>31666247
Well fagloom has STAB technician mach punch from 130 attack

Toucannon
Dark/Flying
HP: 85 (+5)
Atk: 120
Def: 60 (-15)
SpA: 55 (-20)
SpD: 55 (-20)
Spe: 105 (+45)
BST: 485

There, now it is a bit better and the stats now suit the design too. Dark-type makes more sense for Toucannon too because of the whole angery thing along with it being black.

>>31673168
Does Primeape need to Dark too because of the whole so angery it dies thing?

>>31673187
Would be nice, i guess

>>31673168
>if it's angry, it's evil
Hulk wants a word with you.

>>31673115
Yeah but Golurk also has another ability

>>31663617
Attack Order should be changed to a physical bug-type Stored Power.

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New ability:
Bottom feeder - Every turn this pokemon has a 50% chance to eat any berry that has been used in battle so far.

New move
Suction Swallow
Catagory: Special
Type: Water
PP: 10
BP: 75
The user's HP is restored by half the damage taken by the target.

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>>31673410
Sorry forgot stats.

>>31673282
And fagloom has two others equally annoying

>>31673420
>>31673410
But Whiscash is a physical attacker, and it gets dragon dance so why not give it +30 speed, so it can at least out speed some mons, +30 attack, -30 hp, and a physical bug type move like u-turn or lunge, so it can have something to defeat grass types with?

>>31666275
No, making everything super fast is fucking retarded. Hate this retarded meme.
Give it more defenses and HP if anything.

>>31673456
Its a mixed attacker and learns more special attacks by level up than physical ones. I also hate the idea that everything should be fast to make it viable. Whiscash is clearly meant to be more slow and bulky than fast.

I just feel like there are a lot of physical ground type attackers so it would be better if it had a different niche. It should also learn Earth power by level up to replace earthquake. If you want grass coverage it can learn ice beam and blizzard by TM anyway.

>>31673493
Masuda, you did enough damage.

>>31666706

Not a buff, because then leavanny would have to forgo leaf blade, which is a lot more reliable, unless your entire team was a sun team, in which case might as well just go venusaur.

It will undoubtedly get solar blade next game though

>>31663617
IIT we min max everything to be fast sweepers and give them a broke signiture move to boot!

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How do we fix it?

{Fixing Types
Type: Normal/Fairy
- Play Rough has stab now

{Fixing Stats
HP: 70 -> 80 (+10)
ATK: 65 -> 95 (+30)
S.ATK: 65
DEF: 55 -> 95 (+40)
S.DEF: 55
SPEED: 90 -> 100 (+10)
BST: 400 -> 470

{Fixing Abilities
- No way Normalize can be fixed, it's always trash
- Make Cute Charm acts like a Infatuation Poison Touch and Point instead of just Point.

{New Move
- Heart Hammer
Type: Normal
BP: 90
AC: 100%
Secondary Effect: It's Superaffective against any Pokemon if it the target is infatuated.

{Bonus
- Mega Delcatty
Type: Normal/Fairy
HP: 70 -> 80 (+10) -> 100( +20)
ATK: 65 -> 95 (+30) -> 125 (+30)
S.ATK: 65 -> None -> 35 (-30)
DEF: 55 -> 95 (+40) -> 105 (+20)
S.DEF: 55 -> None -> 85 (+30)
SPEED: 90 -> 100 (+10) -> 130 (+30)
BST: 400 -> 470 -> 570

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>>31675101
Forgot the pic

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>>31674927
It's the only path to success.

>/vp/ hates Garchomp
>minmaxes every Pokémon in existence to become Garchomp

>>31675101
>making regular Delcatty Fairy

lame

>>31673509
Dumbass it's a catfish. Nips believe catfish can cause earthquakes. That's why it has the typing it does and learns EQ

>>31675101
Heart Hammer is a great idea tho Normal Typing is shit, it would fit and be better in Fairy

>>31675163
I put Normal so it wouldn't be so appelative since Ghosts would be immune

>>31675101
It is pointless make it Fairy but not give a bulk in SpDef, Sludge Wave would easily throw away Shitcatty.

>>31675138
Garchomp isnt even that minmaxed are you blind? Most its stats are close to 100, and its broken because of its versatility, typing, movepool, etc. Not just statwise