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ITT: Mons that deserved better stats

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Such a top-tier design, but only 483 BST?
He should have had at least 540.

89 > 110 HP (+21)
124 > 145 Atk (+21)
80 > 90 Defense (+10)
55 > 40 SpAtk (-15)
80 > 85 SpDef (+5)
55 > 70 Speed (+15)
TOTAL: 540
What tier is he now?
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I wish Golurk was symmetrical.
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>>31647755

>increase in speed instead of dumping the remaining 15 into Defense

Do you even Mazinger?
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>>31647788
I increased the speed so that Rock Polish would be a potentially viable strategy.
What's Mazinger?

Oh, also give Golurk Bullet and Mach Punch because why not
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90 > 100 (+10)
130 > 145 (+15)
80 > 85 (+5)
65 > 60 (-5)
85 > 85 (+0)
55 > 65 (+10)
Total: 540

105 > 110 (+5)
140 > 140 (+0)
95 > 110 (+15)
55 > 60 (+5)
65 > 75 (+10)
45 > 45 (+0)
Total: 540
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>>31647755
Very solid UU, maybe even BL. He needs dat priority.
>>31647878
The champ is back in action! Conk is good too. That gives them a good shot at OU i think.

Rate mine
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31647969
Oops forgot to add lol.

Flygon
80 HP
100 > 80 Atk (-20)
80 Def
80 > 110 SpAtk (+30)
80 SpDef
110 Speed (+10)
TOTAL: 540

This+Quiver Dance would be beautiful.
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>>31647878
>somebody posted these two before I did
I love you anon. i never would have thought. But let me try something else

90 > 110 (+20)
130 > 150 (+20)
80 > 90 (+10)
65 > 35 (-30)
85 > 85 (+0)
55 > 55 (+0)
BST: 525

105 > 105 (+0)
140 > 140 (+0)
95 > 115 (+20)
55 > 55 (+0)
65 > 65 (+0)
45 > 45 (+0)
BST: 525

Rationale: i'm not a fan of unnecessarily bloated BSTs. I also wanted them to keep their slow but tanky role so I don't think either needed speed boost as long as they can survive hits.

However, I do want to differentiate them further so you have a better reason of running either (or both even in my case) and not just one over the other.

As they are now, Conk is superior in every way and his poor Sp Def is easily remedied by Assault Vest. So what I did was to make Champ hit a bit harder and have more health so that he has actually something to brag over Conk, while Conk's defense becomes his main selling point. Champ becomes all out offense thanks to NG+DP or even CC while Conk becomes a more solid defensive tank that's in it for the longer haul due to recovery via DP while still maintaining stronger priority via MP over Champ's BP.

However if this thread really is about 540 BST then I pretty much don't mind the stat spread you suggested since they both get buffed anyway and again I can't believe I finally found somebody else who likes these two.
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>>31647755
77 > 77 HP (+0)
70 > 60 Att (-10)
90 > 90 Def (+0)
145 > 145 Sp (+0)
75 > 88 SpD (+13)
43 > 110 Spe (+67)
BST 570.
I would also swap its pre evos' attack and sp attack.

A design this good shouldn't be a competitive joke that can't even be a bro in-game.
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>>31648224
That's way too high BST.
77 > 77 HP (+0)
70 > 40 Att (-30)
90 > 90 Def (+0)
145 > 145 Sp (+0)
75 > 75 SpD (+0)
43 > 103 Spe (+60)
BST 530
Access to Aura sphere Sludge bomb Shadow ball and Dragon pulse.(more cannon based moves)
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>>31647755
I've got a boarderline furfag boner for delphox, but if I was allowed to go nuts with a pokemon, I'd probably pick Torterra.

For no real reason at all other than awesome world turtle, I'd give it the highest base stats of all starters at 550 total with the spreads looking like:
>100 HP
>95 atk
>110 def
>80 sp. atk
>110 sp. def
>55 spd

Beyond stats though, I'd add the following to it's learnset:
>Ingrain
>Surf
>Stomp
>Strength
>Shore Up
>Stomping Tantrum
>Smack Down
>Grassy Terrain
>Bullet Seed
>Spikey Shield
>Fissure

And for almost non-mechanical reasons, I'd triple torterra's size.
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>>31648224
ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A FUCKING RAILGUN ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO GO FAST

If you are going to change anything up its HP and defences
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Help it
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>>31649037
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>>31649037
>Former stats
HP: 97
ATK: 132
DEF: 77
SPA: 62
SPD: 67
SPE: 43
BST: 478

>New stats
HP: 95
ATK: 135
DEF: 75:
SPA: 55
SPD: 65
SPE: 105
BST: 530

Tried to avoid minmaxing as much as possible. If that attack and speed combination is too much, reduce ATK by 10 or 15.
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>>31649019
Not him but you can't deny it looks like it's supposed to go fast.

If it were up to me it'd get a +3 speed boosting move and more coverage.
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>>31649019
Which would make sense IF IT DIDN'T FUCKING FLY
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>>31648447
Those are still ridiculous stats for an early-route bug, even if it evolves late.

Either bump its defenses and keep its speed the same, so that it can take a hit and counterattack (Magnezone does it well), or bump its speed and reduce its defenses. Don't minmax by reducing Attack and pumping it all into speed.

I could see it being more like this:

77 > 77 HP (+0)
70 > 70 Att (+0)
90 > 70 Def (-20)
145 > 145 Sp (+0)
75 > 65 SpD (-10)
43 > 103 Spe (+60)
BST 530

It looks like a glass cannon, so that seems to fit its design.

Alternatively if its supposed to be more like a railgun I'd do something more like this:

77 > 87 HP (+10)
70 > 70 Att (+0)
90 > 120 Def (+30)
145 > 145 Sp (+0)
75 > 95 SpD (+20)
43 > 43 Spe (+0)
BST 530

Removing attack is dumb though, just use Mega Beedrill instead if you're gonna minmax.
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>>31649090
The second one is actually BST 560, ignore the HP and SpD buffs.
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>>31649082
Things are allowed to fly slow.
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>>31649068
>Not him but you can't deny it looks like it's supposed to go fast
i mean the trial emphasized how long it took Vikavolt to reach the trial site
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>>31649102
Vikavolt is like a fortress that zooms through the forest, firing a beam of electricity from its mouth. Its huge jaws control the electricity it blasts out.

Vikavolt is adept at acrobatic flight maneuvers like tailspins and sharp turns. It can fly at high speeds even as it weaves its way through the complicated tangle of branches in the forest.

>can fly at high speeds
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>>31649152
Okay then that is stupid I hadn't read the pokedex entry.

Its like yanmega's
>"it can carry people on its back"
>can't learn fly
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>>31647755
Speaking of pokemon who deserve better stats:
>Arceus
>just boost all it's stats to 150
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>>31647878
Yess
Conk having more attack than Machamp makes no sense, especially considering it's little baby legs and that it only has two arms
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>>31647788
>not dumping whatever stat boost into def and spdef
DON'T WANNA KNOW WHY EVERYBODY GET IT ON
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>>31649172
Conk is a construction worker and has dadstrength, Machamp focuses on being zyzz mode so he loses out a little on strength
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>>31649323
Still weird though because champ supposedly also mastered every martial art there is and conk supposedly relies more on technique than brute force
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>>31649037
Literally just give it Mach Punch and Ice Shard. Hammer arm would be nice too.
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Dump its Sp. Atk into HP. Leave Attack alone just in case it has to resort to Struggle.
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>>31647755
>>31649037
Add 'punching moves have increased priority' to Iron Fists.
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>>31649686
>'punching moves have increased priority' to Iron Fists
Literally why would you use anybody else?
>priority drain punch recovery
>double priority mach punch
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>>31647755
For how rare this thing was, and how well its first form compares to beldum, this should have been a psuedo. And part poison type, it learns just as many poison moves as it does electric. it wouldn't be the no weaknesses meme anymore but it gets 5 new resistances out of the exchange and only one weakness, to a shit type I might add.
Electric/Poison
HP: 85 -> 105 (+20)
Atk: 115 -> 125 (+10)
Def: 80 -> 100 (+20)
Spa: 105 -> 115 (+10)
Spd: 80 -> 90 (+10)
Spe: 50 -> 65 (+15)

>>31649678
Mirror coat, metal burst and amnesia/iron defence would make it perfect as is.
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HP : 100 (+40)
ATK : 50
DEF : 120
SPA : 100 (+10)
SPD : 100 (+20)
SPE : 30
TOTAL : 500

Get power gem

Magma Armor now negate water type moves
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Access to Shore Up is all I want.
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>>31648995

the only thing I would do with Torterra is giving him an ability called something like Back Shield that would halve damage from Flying Pokemon, Pokemon with Levitate, and Pokemon taller than him (which are actually few)
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>>31647755
This. Golurk is too fucking cool to be a shitmon.

As for my pick.
>double HP, now has base 40 hp
>give recover and leech seed
>change gluttony to harvest
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>>31647755
I'm so confused by Golurk's BST. Doesn't Golett appear in the same tower where N gets the dragon? Fairly lategame dungeon yet it has sub-500 BST. What the fuck?

Also this poor bastard is supposed to be the last boss and most dangerous of the UBs but is so much worse than the rest. The worst of all fully evolved Alola (sub)Legends, even.
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+30 HP
+30 ATK
+40 SPEED
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>>31650613
>Pidgey used Mud Slap
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>>31651166
one day the double weakness/resistance will be removed...
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>>31649019
That's Golem.
Vikavolt is clearly the Vic Viper.
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It doesn't max sense that Ledian gets Iron Fist yet its attack stat is utter shit.

HP: 55
Attack: 35 > 100
Defense: 50
Special Attack: 55 > 35
Special Defense: 110
Speed: 85 > 100
BST: 390 > 450
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+10 ATK
+40 SPEED
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>>31649068
>>31649082

Somebody once put it this way: Speed stat is actually about attack speed, not movement speed. Vikavolt flies quickly but needs a long time to charge up.
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Hp: 78 > 93 (+15)
Atk: 107 > 137 (+30)
Def: 75 > 90 (+15)
SpAtk: 100 > 60 (-40)
SpDef: 100 > 100 (+0)
Spe: 70 > 120 (+50)
Total: 600
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HP 85 (+10)
Atk 125
Def 110 (-30)
Sp. Atk 40 (-20)
Sp. Def 90
Spe 80 (+40)

Is this good?
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All stats are 105 instead of 95. Is it good?
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>>31652151
"flies quickly"
Nigga, did you not realize how long it took that faggot to reach the trial site?
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Yeah sure why not
487>517

85 > 90(+5)
115 > 125(+10)
75 > 80(+5)
55 > 35(-20)
75 > 80(+5)
82 > 107(+25)

And throw on head smash
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>dweebs minmaxing towards one attacking stat

You're going to use these frail slow mixed attackers and you're going to love them

t. Game Freak
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>>31649686
>>31649747
>but only at 100% health
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>>31652793
but they clearly have no problems doing that.
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HP 70 (+15)
Atk 100 (+65)
Def 60 (+10)
Sp. Atk 50 (-5)
Sp. Def 70 (-40)
Spe 124 (+39)
474
Basically a Physical Ribombee. Give it Bug/Fighting and Levitate too.
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>>31647832
The second super robot to make it big. It's a slow bulky mobile fortress that attacks mostly with its internal ranged weaponry.
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>>31652690
Overkill. Making its ability usable with z-stones and getting rid of memory drives would be amazing.
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>>31647755
>HP: 432 (+216)
>ATK: 150 (+50)
>DEF: 171 (+50)
>SP.ATK: 141(+50)
>SP.DEF: 145 (+50)
>SPD: 72 (-13)
>BST: 1111

He's not really "ultimate pokemon" enough right now
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>>31653200
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Minmaxfags need to go back.
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>>31653223
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>>31653217
Oh don't worry, those are the stats for mega zygarde complete, who requires to have equipped the cube, have had power construct equipped and all your Pokémon in your party to hold their mega stones, to mega evolve.
I have no idea but I assume that would still be unbalanced.
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>>31647755
>Regigigas
Slow Start only lasts one turn, then it becomes Speed Boost.
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>>31652690
>>31653136
Memory discs now give a boost like plates, Z-Crystals can be used instead of memory discs, and Silvally's forms are all half-Normal. Normal/Ghost Silvally would be really good. Also, Type: Null now learns Recover.
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>>31647976
540 BSTs are reserved for good designs only.
Be happy you got a 500 BST at all, bitchboy.
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>>31652437
>Make a starter have pseudo level stats
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>>31653469
Decidueye deserves that as one of the most popular starters of all time.
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>>31653484
This is a joke right? I mean I can see him being top for the gen but all time is an outright lie
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>>31653502
Ignore the falseflagger. They just want to trigger you.
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>>31653223
So I'm assuming you didn't got introduced to Miss Pheromosa, didn't you?
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>>31653469
Hp: 78 > 123 (+45)
Atk: 107 > 207 (+100)
Def: 75 > 120 (+45)
SpAtk: 100 > 60 (-40)
SpDef: 100 > 130 (+30)
Spe: 70 > 140 (+70)
Total: 780

better?
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>>31649669

If you gave it Focus Punch you could pair it up with a Prankster "After You" Pokemon and make a priority Focus Punch murder machine.
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Old
HP: 90
Attack: 130
Defense: 75
Sp. Atk: 75
Sp. Def: 75
Speed: 55

New
HP: 90
Attack: 130
Defense: 85
Sp. Atk: 35
Sp. Def: 85
Speed: 75

Made it a bit bulkier.

Reasoning?

He's a bear, dammit! Buster Brown and his Hairy Hollyknockers! Have you ever tried to bring one down?
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>>31648995
Tbh a lot of starters deserved better allocation of stats just to stand out.

Kanto Starters have their Megas, and are the baseline anyway.


HP: 78 > 106
Attack: 84 > 60
Defense: 78
Sp.Atk: 109 > 135
Sp.Def: 85
Speed: 100 > 70
Total: 534

Now its slower but bulky and it hits like a truck, not just "literally Zard lol".
Give it Earth Power, Agility and (if feeling generous) a signature Fire move super effective on Rock a la Freeze Dry.


80 > 100
82 > 70
100
83 > 104
100
80 > 60
525 > 534 BST
Give it Triage to work with Giga Drain as a HA. Earth Power to hit Steels+Fire. Fairy subtype?

Feraligatr is fine with his Sheer Force + Life Orb shenanigans

Sceptile
70 > 60
85 > 125
65 > 64
105 > 85
85 > 80
120 (+0)
534 BST
I understand that it was a Special attacker before the split, but its flavour suggests otherwise. He"s now a glass cannon that actually hits like one. Maybe also give him a Fighting subtype?
Ability: Sharp Blades- Iron Fist for cutting moves (e.g. Leaf Blade, Night Slash, Slash, Sacred Sword [which it probably doesn't get])

Not sure how to distinguish Infernape from Blaziken, but it has to happen. Perhaps give him Technician and let him work with that?

Empoleon:
84
86 >115
88
111 > 86
101
60
BST: 530 > 534
Switch its Atk and SpAtk and bump his BST up to that of the favoured starters. Now Defiant actually works for him.

Can't be bothered to fix the rest though.
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Grass/Fairy
Abilities: Chlorophyll / Contrary / Infiltrator
HP: 85 (+15)
Atk: 110 (+5)
Def: 85 (-5)
SpAtk: 40 (-40)
SpDef: 85 (-5)
Spe: 115 (+70)
BST: 520
Give it Superpower and Play Rough.
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>>31653689
Much better
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How do we make it better?
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>>31652741
So, how long did it exactly take it? We basically say "omg soo loong" for what was two minutes worth of talking and five to ten worth of pokemon fighting. And, since we're at it, what distance did it have to cross? I'd risk saying that at least a few kilometers, including flying up a mountain, in about ten minutes is damn fast for an insect.

And there is still the fact that it's a goddamn long distance flight, it's obvious that it can sprint faster.
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Sunflora

HP: 75
ATK: 75->65 (-10) (seriously why is it that high, realistically it should be way lower but I don't want to go overboard minmaxing)
DEF: 55->65 (+10)
SA: 105->115(+10)
SD: 85->95 (+10)
SPD: 30->43 (+13)
BST: 425->458 (+33)

It's still awful but at least it's a gesture
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>>31653689
At this point you should just give it an ability that automatically wins.
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>>31653469
Being fair, I'd love a starter set that doubles as Pseudo Legendaries.
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>>31654399
The joke


Your digits
Your head
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>>31653445
>implying Flygon is a worse design than fucking Magmortar.

Which reminds me- Electivire deserves better. Reduce SpAtk from 95 to 75, put 10 into both attack and speed.
If you want him to be good, give him a signature 90 BP electric move called Cable Shock or similar.

Or, to make him incredible, remove 20 from SpAtk and add it to Speed, and give him Electric Terrain
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>>31652832
another gale wings?
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>>31654148
In my opinion, Sunflowra needs a Grass/Fire mega and access to some fire type moves. Have it gain an assload of bulk and SpA, make its ability Drought or something. That way you get better Synthesis, better Solarbeams, better fire type moves (Heat Wave would be nice) and helps the rest of your team with the sun.
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>>31652478
just remove emergency exit cause he is fine

however i'll add him
+15 hp
+5 atk
+10 def
-20 sp.atk
+20 sp.def
+30 speed

with this Golisopod will be on OU
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>>31651237
It already has Agility to SPEED UP. Could have used a better ability though.
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>>31654148
For something who evolve by stone and is monotype... I would say fuck it, and let's go even further!

HP : 85 (+10)
ATK : 55 (-20)
DEF : 75 (+20)
SPA : 120 (+15)
SPD : 100 (+15)
SPE : 55 (+25)
TOTAL : 490

>>31654077
Elgyem evolve at level 42...Beheeyem really need at least 500 BST

HP : 95 (+20)
ATK : 55 (-20)
DEF : 95 (+20)
SPA : 125
SPD : 95
SPË : 40
TOTAL : 505

Also make it psychic/electric, give it volt switch and replace synchronize by levitate so it's not too much like reuniculus
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>>31647755
108 > 108
130 > 140
95 > 95
80 > 40
85 > 85
103 > 133
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>>31653870
she deserved to be fairy type more than whimsicott. and got a more decent movepool
also:
+20 hp
-20 atk
+20 def
sp,atk and def are just fine
+20 speed
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>>31653689
>M-Glalie used explosion

Shitmon
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>>31649037
Pisses me off that it actually lost speed when it evolved. The least they could've done is make it have same speed as Crabrawler.
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>>31651138
>wanting to get rid of the thing that makes shedinja special
I could use the increased speed though, I had to kick the guy off my AS team because he was never getting a hit off in time
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>>31652103
Route 1 shitmons are supposed to be shitmons
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HP : 72
ATK : 120
DEF : 98
SPA : 50
SPD : 98
SPE : 87 (+15)
TOTAL : 525

Grass/Fighting
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>>31655223
Oh? That explains why Talonflame was nerfed as hard as it was then.
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>>31654985
>Making an already insanely powerful pokemon stronger/faster

Why? It already can outrun pretty much any ice-types which would be it's big weakness.
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>>31655281
Because it's revenged killed easily right now. Too many speedy fairies and ice types like Ninetales and Koko.
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>>31655296
So, now it can sweep whole teams and the trainer never has to consider swapping out or using any other pokemon?
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>>31655296
I seriously hope your joking, because Garchomp's stats so well rounded it's never going to stop being on everyone's team. If anything, its one of biggest candidates that deserves a nerf on it's base stats. Probably a BST decrease too.
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>>31652103
>The saddest detective who can't stop purse snatchers
BST: 418
HP: 88
ATK: 110
DEF: 60
SPA: 55
SPD: 60
SPE: 45
Normal type.

>The new and improved hard boiled detective who WILL fuck criminal scum up
BST: 500
HP: 113
ATK: 120
DEF: 70
SPA: 55
SPD: 70
SPE: 72
Normal/Fighting type.
Learns Drain Punch and Mach Punch.
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>>31655184
meh, it's more about the ability than the "1HP"...like that at least it don't die directly to rocks/status/weather, who shouldn't be that punitive.
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>>31655393
maybe then giving also to wonder guard the magic guard effect, but it's probably too op
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>>31651138
>>31655184
>>31655393
Dump all of its Def and SpDef into Attack and/or Speed. Now it gets to be even more unique by having 3 base stats of 1.
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>>31655223
what is diggersby?
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Ninetales
HP 79 (+6)
Atk 76
Def 75
Sp. Atk 86 (+5)
Sp. Def 100
Spe 109 (+9)
Total 525
Alolan Ninetales
HP 79 (+6)
Atk 67
Def 80 (+5)
Sp. Atk 90 (+9)
Sp. Def 100
Spe 109
Total 525
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>>31655393
What if it had 2 HP instead of 1, that way it could come in on hazards once, lose exactly 1/2 its health, and keep going?
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Turn this thing into a monster.
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Please help her! Cute pokemon cannot be shit.
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>>31655888
>Z-Crystal Compatablity, Remove Memories
>105 in all stats
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>>31655888
105 in all stats. Memories are a single key item like the Zygarde cube- they don't need to be held, giving Silvally a slot for something else.
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>>31655909
HP 85 (+15)
Atk 50 (-15)
Def 75 (+10)
Sp Atk 110 (+55)
Sp Def 90 (+35)
Spe 95 (+5)
Total 505
Give it a bunch of special moves like Psychic.

>>31655888
105 instead of 95 in each stat. Make RKS System work like Aerilate with memories, turning Normal-type moves into the type of the memory and giving them a boost, though less of a boost than Aerilate, or about 1.1x.
Give it most of Arceus' moves, like Extreme Speed, Recover, Psychic, Earthquake, and Earth Power. Buff Multi-Attack to 95 BP and give it a boost when holding a memory by 1.2x or so. Make a special variant of Multi-Attack with the same buffs.
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>>31652832
>but only at 100% health
>Conkeldurr used Drain Punch!!
>back to 100% occasionally
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>>31655597
Diggersby tho?
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>>31647976
I came.
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HP: 100 (+25)
Atk: 50 (-25)
Def: 95 (+20)
Sp.Atk: 125
Sp. Def: 105 (+10)
Spe: 40
Total: 510
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Grass/Fighting
HP: 81 (+9)
Atk: 129 (+9)
Def: 85 (-13)
Sp. Atk: 40 (-10)
Sp. Def: 96 (-2)
Spe: 104 (+32)
Total: 535
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>rare mon on its original route
>cool af, literally meganium if it was good-looking
>all kinds of neat moves like dragon dance and leaf blade
>great ability in harvest
>doomed to be a shitty subseeder because of stats (and typing)

It's not fucking fair. Still my second favorite pokemon ever, but damn is it hard to use.
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>>31657187
HP 109 (+10)
Atk 78 (+10)
Def 93 (+10)
Sp. Atk 82 (+10)
Sp. Def 97 (+10)
Spe 61 (+10)
Total 520
Does this make it usable now?
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>>31647832
>What's Mazinger

One of the first mecha shows/mangas produced and certainly one of the most influential for the genre. Golurk is a homage to Mazinger Z (bulky, slow, can fly) and its "punch" moves are a reference to Mazinger Z's Rocket Punch, where it could fire its fists at an enemy from a distance using rockets built into the wrists.

It's one of the most /m/ Pokemon, along with Metagross. I love it.
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>>31657187
Grass/Dragon with Levitate
HP: 99 > 110
Atk: 68 > 40
Def: 83 > 90
Sp.Atk: 72 > 129
Sp.Def: 87 > 90
Speed: 51
500 BST

How is he now?
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>>31657398

Death to any fairy that looks his way?
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Hp: 75
Atk: 100 > 121 (+21)
Def: 66 > 80 (+14)
SpAtk: 60 > 50 (-10)
SpDef: 66
Spe: 115 > 113 (-2)
total: 482 > 505 (+23)

Ambipom already has min-maxed stats but fuck, the frailness isn't even worth it for a normal-type with base 100 attack. At least it got technician.
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>>31649019
>ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO GO FAST
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>>31655253
I was hoping it would be a grass mienshao
Its really bulky stats don't fit with the design at least in my opinion. Queenly majesty and the other priority stopping ability would make so much more sense on a fast frail sweeper too. A more defensive mon like this doesnt really need to worry about priority
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>>31657309
It's something t b h
>>31657398
I'm ok with this. Still kinda bad, but much more serviceable. Good work, anons.
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>>31653870
Looking at this makes me even sadder that we got the utter shit Game Freak gave us.
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>>31649037
It's beyond saving.
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+30 speed
I really hope it gets some stat buffs in later gens
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>>31654148
Just switch atk and speed stats and add 20 more in HP and it's decent. Quiver dance would be nice.
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>>31647755
Just give it 90 base attack, please. Persian has been my favorite forever but man it needs a buff.
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+10 in Speed is all it needs.
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>>31655005
>she deserved to be fairy type more than whimsicott
Whimsicott is like the most Fairy of the all the Fairy Pokemon.
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>>31658729
+5 really
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>>31658729
It might get a mega or something else good in the future, considering every pseudo before it has either gotten a really good hidden ability, a mega, or both.
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There's no good reason Iron Fist shouldn't be a 50% boost.
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>>31655746
Make its HP actually work off base 1 HP, instead of him literally having 1 HP. That'd give him 11 HP at level 1. Remove all of his defense and special defense and put them into attack, special attack and speed.
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>>31658866
>Iron Fist
>50% boost
>Drain Punch
>Mach Panch
Conkeldurr agrees
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>>31655888
Don't wanna touch his base stats as his bst is already huge.
>Give him far more moves. Like other anons have said, make him learn earth power, recover, extreme speed and the 90 bp moves of every type in the game.
>buff multi attack to 95 bp
>make rks system work off z crystals, make memories either give him a boost or a key item (z crystals override memories key item)
>unique z move: Godslayer Strike. 200 bp, requires multi attack, hits for the same type as silvally (making of dual type after forest's curse or trick or treat). Always critically hits against pokemon that cannot breed
>new mega evolution, looks similar to arceus but with silvally's crest
>ability: Godslayer. Mega Silvally always critically hits against Pokémon that cannot breed
>stats are one of these four:
>105/111/111/111/111/121
>95/121/121/121/121/91
>91/121/121/121/121/95
>105/115/115/115/115/105
>the last one is more of a general and fair mega, the first three are designed to cuck arceus
>silvally can now be used for his z move to, if you guessed the type correctly before battle, massively strike an enemy legendary, even one shot it
>mega silvally can now be used as an overall powerful Pokemon with a clear advantage against certain strong enemies
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>>31647755
Oricorio
>z move off revelation dance
>Dance of Dances
>select one of its types (like selecting a move)
>oricorio changes to each of its types and uses revaluation dance as each, but only 50 bp per hit
>ends on the type you selected

>dance to the death
>z move off any other dance move
>oricorio uses quiver dance, dragon dance, swords dance and teeter dance
>but inflicts itself with curse (as in, it takes the dot)
>absurd baton pass but only if it can survive, with its terrible base stats and cursed
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>>31647832

shadow punch needs to be 80bp
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+10 HP
+2 SPE
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Grass/Fairy
Abilities: Chlorophyll / Own Tempo / Natural Cure
HP: 85 (+15)
Atk: 40 (-20)
Def: 85 (+10)
Sp. Atk: 115 (+5)
Sp. Def: 85 (+10)
Spe: 110 (+20)
Total: 520
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Abilities: Multiscale / Bulletproof / Soundproof
HP 100 (+25)
Atk 120 (+10)
Def 100 (-25)
Sp. Atk 95 (-5)
Sp. Def 90 (-15)
Spe 95 (+10)
Elemental Punches, Superpower, Close Combat, Shell Smash, Iron Head, Metal Claw, Drain Punch, and Physical Clanging Scales would also help.
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Sturdy/Technician
HP 70 (+10)
ATK 115 (+15)
DEF 100 (-15)
SP ATK 80 (+10)
SP DEF 85
SPE 90
TOTAL 540
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>>31659499
It's time to stop.

Also what is this retarded meme that Silvally is a god slayer when the game explicitly states it was made to counter Ultra beasts.
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