Now that Gamefreak has shown that they have the gall to make

>>31637024
I think you need to learn how to count m'friend

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>>31637024
>four Fire/Fighting starters
Incineroar is Fire/Dark though. It's based on a wrestler (or heel, whatever) but it's still Fire/Dark.

>>31637041
>>31637049
Incineroar is practically Fire/Fighting in design and theme. Making it Fire/Dark does not justify making it Fire/Fighting in essence.

That picture looks like it's missing a piece of its arm and a piec of its bone is sticking out.

>>31637057
In any case, it's still fire dark. Not fire fighting no matter what your shitty opinion is.

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>>31637057
(you)

>>31637057
What is "in essence" is not the point. Incineroar is still Fire/Dark. Ergo, there are only three Fire/Fighting starters.

>>31637089
In that case, I guess we can't complain if the next fire starter is an anthropomorphic bull with a boxing theme, but we can't call it out on being a fire/fighting because it's fire/steel based on some nonsensical "Iron Fist" theme.

>>31637095
Now you're getting it.

Also, people will complain anyway, just a bit differently than they might if the hypothetical bull is Fire/Fighting.

>>31637115
Yeah, it seems like the complaining about the fire starters has gone from "it's another fire/fighting" to "it's another biped/anthropomorph".

>>31637146
Both are valid complaints, though. We haven't had a quadruped since gen 2.

>>31637160
True. And even then it's mostly bipedal.

In GF's mind anything that is fighting type can become Dark type simply by fighting dirty.

This reminds me, sand attack should be dark type.

>>31637057
It doesn't matter what you think. The fact of the matter is is that Incineroar is fire/dark, not fire/fighting. And no amount of "essence" or denial is going to change that.

>four fire/fighting is bad because reasons
>four pure water is great because ?????
>four pure grass is great because ?????

>>31637146
>>31637160
>>31637171
Charizard is almost never depicted on all fours either, so technically we've pretty much never had a biped, final form, fire-starter.

>>31637402
I think you mean quadruped

Putting aside the slightly confused OP, if GameFreak were to make another Fire/Fighting, what fighting style would you like it to have?

Note that I'm not talking about stats, but rather how the lore and the design shows it; is it fighting with a makeshift weapon? Judo? Boxing?

>>31637095
>Another Fire/Steel
Fuck yeah

>>31637410
Only acceptable one would be a ki energy fighting style or something similar.

A Fire/Fighting that can only attack specially at the very least would play differently than any the last three.

>>31637410
I'd like to see spear combat if it has to happen.

Make it a scorpion that uses its stinger as a makeshift spear. Not sure how the theme would be, some kind of a chinese warrior/general? It could invoke the image of a very regal warrior riding a red horse.

Lu Bu, but he's a scorpion. I think that could be quite marketable.

>>31637057
>wrestling
>fighting
Wrestling's fake anon, hence the Dark typing.

>>31637410
Yare yare daze...

>>31637410
>lizard designed after a japanese infantry warrior
>high base speed and offensive stats, but fragile
>like cubone/farfetch'd he has a weapon, a flame-tipped spear that burns constantly
>signature move is blazing javelin, a non-contact attack that deals both physical fighting type damage and special fire damage

>>31637442
This.

Wrestling = acting = lying = bad = dark

>>31637499
I followed you up until the dual-type damage thing. However, an either-or attack might work (IE Genesect)

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>>31637057
>Being this autistic

>>31637335
>four pure grass
nigger what

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>>31637024
>draw a fire/fighting
>call it fire/dark

>>31637410
A special oriented Fire/Fighting

Flamethrower, Aura Sphere, Calm Mind, and the signature Special Fire move that deals physical damage and can cause either confusion or burn

>>31637057
calm down hazeldex.

>>31637410
A special attacker.

>>31637410
Jeet kune do or Wing Chun. It just feels right for something that's fire/fighting.

>>31638033
>Aura Sphere
Give it Lava Plume, too, just so it can be the poster boy for poorly-distributed moves.

>>31637057

>Heel Pokemon
>Fighting

No.

It LOOKS like a Fighting type due to being based on a wrestler, but in concept, it's the complete opposite of a Fighting type. It's a dirty, savage fighter, which is the whole schtick of the Dark type. The complete opposite of the Fighting type, who are fair and honorable fighters.

Wrestling is fake anyway.

Still waiting for fire/fairy

>>31637057
Not sure if bait or just pure unadulterated autism

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>>31637275
>It doesn't matter what you think.
Reminded me of this.

>>31638845
I'm still mad about Tapu Bulu.

>>31639111
>Fire/Fairy with Bulu's stats and Drought
It would've been devastating.

>>31639111
Tapu Bulu is made of wood though. People assumed it was part fire because we thought all the Tapu's shared Oricorio's type's.

>>31637335

Gen 1: Water and Grass/Poison
Gen 2: Water and Grass
Gen 3: Water/Ground and Grass
Gen 4: Water/Steel and Grass/Ground
Gen 5: Water and Grass
Gen 6: Water/Dark and Grass/Fighting

3 cases of pure water and 2 cases of pure grass.

>>31639321

* 3 cases of pure grass.

>>31637057
You also think Luxray is Electric/Dark, don't you?

>>31637335
Pure fire would be better than a fire/fighting

As an additional bonus make it an actual tiger instead of a human/tiger hybrid

>>31637057
Essence or not, that doesn't change the fact that it's Fire/Dark. It also only learns a single fighting type attack by level up.

>>31639259
>Spooky Terrain Ghost/Fairy Tapu "Fini"
>Spooky Terrain powers up Ghost-type moves by 50% and HP recovery is taken as damage instead for grounded Pokemon though Life Orb and Ghost Curse's self-inflicted damage is inverted to restore the user's HP by the amount it would've damaged
How banned is it? Remember that Moonblast + Shadow Ball already hits everything bar, like, Pyroar for neutral damage or better.

>>31639373
IDK about Ghost Fini(sounds offensively busted but it's stats don't seem threatening for an offensive mon), but like your idea of Spooky Terrain. SubHex Gengar with/LO would be pretty damn threatening when terrain is active. Can you use Curse twice on a Ghost? Because Coffagrigus might rise in usage if it got an auto Spooky Terrain ability.


A good recovery move would be enough for regular Tapu Fini to be suspected honestly. Its only flaw is that it's a bad Knock Off absorber as it would hate to loose it's Leftovers due to no recovery.

>>31637057
This is another case of "Proud of its Power"
Add me in the screencap

>>31639094
That's what I was going for.

When you think about it, all Pokemon are Fighting types.