Let's assume you DON'T run shell smash...

>>31628619
Sturdy

There's no reason to hold a berry over Leftovers, so Gluttony is worthless

>>31628654
So, sturdy over contrary? The risk of stat lowering moves isn't significant?

Sturdy. Shuckle should only be used a suicide lead to set up Stealth Rock and Sticky Web.

To accomplish this, the best item for it to hold is a Mental Herb, ensuring that it gets at least one hazard up.

>>31628689

Stat-lowering moves aren't common enough in the meta to warrant it.

>>31628619
I don't really like shell smash shuckle bc it kills momentum.

If i had to use it i'd use toxic, infestation, rocks and web with Sturdy ability

>>31628774
I run toxic, infestation, sandstorm, and knock off

It makes everyone disconnect

>>31628910
How do you suppose it would fare if I replaced toxic with rest? Have other pokemon spam toxic.

>>31628705
actually lots of move have a secondary effect of lowering defensive stats (shadow ball, focus blast ...)

Gluttony with Figy Berry is fun, 8 turns of leftover recovery at once, but only once.