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Make a Pokemon OU With One Change

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>gets roost
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>>31582958
>gets Head Smash
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>>31582958
>Gets Extreme Speed
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>gets 4 speed
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Diaper beam lol
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>>31582958
Maybe in Gen6 OU, but I don't think that'd be quite enough to cut it in Gen7.

>>31582995
252 Atk Tough Claws Aerodactyl-Mega Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 186-220 (55.6 - 65.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
wew lad
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>>31583060
>Using Head Smash on a Defensively Invested Skarmory
Wew lad
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>>31582958
>Gets belly drum
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>>31583042
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>>31582958
>gets regenerator or any ability that isn't literally fucking useless
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Light Ball doubles all of Pikachu's stats
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>>31583109
Retard
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>>31583206
>Still shit
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Make this and/or Zard OU.
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>>31583222
Sorry only 18+ allowed here
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>>31583109
>>31583243
It's to show how ridiculously hard the move hits you fucking tardfag
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>>31583240
Base 1200 special attack.
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>>31583240
>Make this ______ = OU

Earth Power
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>>31583243
the damage calc is to show off how stupid it would be you stupid
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>>31583272
My bad.

In that case, carry on sir
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>>31583223
Do the math. Speed would be ridiculously fast, above even say, Pheromosa, even with a hindering nature. And its bulk would actually be at a respectable level.
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>>31583240
Incurable case of shit. Would need multiple changes to be good.

>>31583277
lol that wouldn't even break UU
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>>31583296
>still outclassed by Jolteon.
Lel
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>>31583344
In what way
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>>31583370
252+ SpA Light Ball Pikachu Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Toxapex: 240-284 (78.9 - 93.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 0+ SpD Toxapex: 288-342 (94.7 - 112.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
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>>31583429
I don't think you grasp something though

Doubling all stats, among other things, makes Pikachu the fastest Pokemon in the whole game. Faster than even Deoxys Speed form. Doubling a maximum of 306 Speed puts him at 612. Even with a Choice Scarf, Pheromosa wouldn't go first. Only priority would attack first without some kid of set up.
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>Gets shell smash
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>>31583728
Plus Pikachu has actual coverage, unlike Joltecuck.
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>there is no single thing that will make Ledian OU other than a Mega with bottomed out attack (ala Beedrill) and Simple or Moody which is two things

feels bad man
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>>31583240
Adaptability.
Would at least be UU. Give it +10 Speed, and its OU.
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Gets Electrify

He just has to sit there and spam it until he gets full special attack. Then just spam Dragon Pulse/Energy Ball/Maybe Hyper beam. Only thing he has to worry about are the nine Pokemon faster then him and Ice Shard. And the latter can be taken care of via Psychic Terrain
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>>31583772
Especially Pikachu's solid physical movepool. If Cosplay comes back, it even gets Icicle Crash or Flying Press.
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>>31583728

What about 75%? That's a way to make it hugely powered without going over limits
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>>31583760
Kommo-o also needs this as well.
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Give it Levitate
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>>31583240
Zard has two megas.
This thing needs a mega too if it wants to reach that level.
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>>31583429
Pikachu has Nasty Plot, though.
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>>31582958
>gets Sap Sipper
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Give it Slack-Off.


No, that won't turn it OU, but it will be more viable.
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>>31584351
what tier is it now anyway? lack of recovery has always been the one thing holding it back, I'm sure it would see a lot of OU usage
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>>31584373
>what tier is it now anyway?
I honestly have no idea, I kinda took a break from showdown before S/M dropped, and haven't really made any effort to get back into competitive Pokemon. When I looked up RU videos and saw the likes of Metagross I was kinda shocked.

I used to love Weezing for its great defensive typing + ability, the decent physical defense, and the will o wisp access (combine that with infestation and a good prediction and you could just suck someone dry using rest as recovery). He also has a surprisingly great speacial movepool, I had some fun last gen using specs weezing in RU.
An unreliable recovery was kinda his dealbreaker though in all of those sets.
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>>31583206
>wanting pikachu to be good
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>>31584397
well, considering weezing can check pheromosa, buzzwhole, tapu bulu and quite a lot of things, having Recover would make it b+ in OU, at least
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>>31582958
>base atk and s.def are switched
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>>31583802
underrated post
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>>31582958
Dragon D-

oh wait
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Slack off.
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Fake out
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>>31584163
Megas don't count. That can be said for literally everyone Pokemon in the thread. Megas change more than one thing.
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>>31582958

>non-flying creature
>roost
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>>31585043
Hawlucha, Scizor, and Pheromosa are flightless but get Roost.
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>Talonflame
>Change Gale wings back to the gen 6 version
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>>31584402
>le edgy contrarian face
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>>31585179

How the fuck is Hawlucha flightless? It's literally Flying type and learns Fly.
Scizor has wings and is shown flying in the anime and Pokken.
Pheromosa has wings and likely can fly too.
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>>31583788
pair it with a discharge spamming Tapu Koko and all problems are solved.
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>>31585179
Pheromosa is shown Flying, or rather floating, in the game it is introduced, and all of this>>31585308
How do you get all three of them wrong?
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>>31585043
>What is Drampa?
>What is Dunsparce?
They get Roost.
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>>31585441
Both of those can fly; they're just not flying type
On the other hand, Empleon is a flightless bird who is also not flying, so until we see it fly in some way, he's at least partially right
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>>31585441

Drampa can learn Fly you retard.
Dunsparce can fly according to its dex entry.
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>>31585043
mantine
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>>31585441
still mad drampa isn't the (canonical) evolution of dunsparce
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>>31585455
I guess Garchomp should get Roost then :^)
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>>31585678
Ebin smiley face, but the argument is clearly that he could, not that he should
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>>31582958
Genesect gets Emergency Exit.
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SD
D
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>>31585554

>flying type
>based on flying ray
>non-flying creature

you're a special kind of retard
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>>31583206
Grats, you created a monster.
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>>31585755
Rays dont actually fly you pile of shit
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>>31585839
neither does your mom. yet my dick let her reach heaven
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>>31585216
Priority as a whole is nerfed this gen, gen 6 gle wings tlonflame will be uu
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>>31585678
He should get Dragon Dance
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>>31582958
Penguins can't fly you dip
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>>31585997

To be fair, Delibird is a penguin and can fly.
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>>31585678
Garchomp being able to fly was a shitty headcanon by the dex writers since day one. We don't talk about it
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>>31586013
Well, he's based on Claus, who can fly
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>>31583048
lol
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>>31585997
The definition of a roost neither explicitly nor implicitly references flight...
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>>31582995
>headsmash and brave bird
seriously nintendo why do you cuck my favorite dino
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Moonblast.
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Adaptability
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Simple.
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+33 Speed
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Slack Off
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>>31582958
Give Extreme Speed and a 10pt attack buff.
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>rock head
>adamant nature
>brave bird
>flare blitz
>head smash
>combine the moves dragon dance and hone claws to boost attack, speed and accuracy
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>>31585869
oh boy you sure showed him
fucking underage
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>>31585739
Swords Dance?
Sunny Day?
Self Destruct?
Sky Drop?
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>>31585308
Is Buzzwole ever shown flying? He can learn it too I forgot
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Dragon Ascent
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Aura Sphere
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>>31584351
>>31584373
Weezing is in NU, where it relies on black Sludge, Pain Split, and Wish support for recovery. It is usable in RU, but outclassed. If it got recover, it would be a solid mon in RU and maybe UU. Think of Mantine, but physically defensive with a better defensive typing, but no defog.
defog could make sense on it tho, with the whole gas thing, but that's just my two cents
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Sticky Web

>>31585975
Chomp is that last thing that deserves DD. It has the most broken/unfair stat spreads for a non-legendary and moves to touch all of it's counters and people want it to be buffed? Just why?

>>31586841
Idk would be BL at best. Would a 60% SpAtk reducing chance be enough to make it worthwhile over Tapu Lele(faster Specs user and Scarfsets outpace Pheromosa) and Magearnea(better defensive typing, not pebbles weak, Volt Switch access which allows it to gain momentum, doesn't rely on a Z-move to boost it's speed, etc)? It does have recovery and a huge support movepool, but it's such mixed bag to ever stand out. It would be able to punish Electric types switching in at least.
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>>31583048
XDDDD I love this meem
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> has Magic Bounce
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>>31584315
this
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>>31584623
If it got Quiver Dance it might actually be viable 2bh
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>>31584315
that's retarded

change base form's ability from Damp to Drizzle
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>>31587218
Explain, I'd like Eevee to be at least as strong as pikachu with light ball.
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>>31588642
extreme meme would be a +4 boost instead of a +2 boost
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>>31583206
>light ball is useful for all raichu line
how good?
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ACCELEROCK AND ROCK HEAD AND MORE SPEED
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>>31583240


Origin Pulse would probably push Mega Blastiose over the edge to make it OU.

Rapidash gets Shift Gear
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>>31589797
>Rapidash gets Shift Gear
is Rapidash a robot
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>>31588546
>Amazing bulk and no weaknesses
>Can switch in to take leech seed for free attack boosts
I do like drizzle on the regular and swift swim in the mega as a better alternative, but if you think sap sipper on it would be retarded you seriously underestimate the power of a bulky water/ground with no weaknesses
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>>31589954
I think anon meant sap sipper is retarded because it doesn't 'fit' M-Swampert.

Would be great if it got recover though.
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>>31584373
I doubt OU, it's a great mon but OU is pretty darn tough.

>>31587967
I think it would be really solid in UU, only 1 defense is fantastic especially when that 1 weakness is psychic.
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Switch attack and sp attack
>sludge bomb
>heat wave
>roost
>nasty plot
A better flying stab would be nice though
>still gets cucked by heatran
I know it wouldn't be OU but I just hate relying on BB to do damage with crobat, that recoil really stops it from sticking around better.
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>>31583294
you're still a dumb person regardless
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>>31586630
YOU GET AERIARU ACEU AND RIKE IT
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Protect and Rest
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>>31583191
>>31587967
>>31588546
Epic black surprise text xD
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>>31582958
Just give it Extremespeed.
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>>31590699
the rest of its physical movepool is pretty bare, except for the signature multitype attack, which if used takes an item slot and the normal STAB bonus away.
>Iron Head
>Crunch
>u-turn
>parting shot
>flame charge
are absolutely inferior to bolt/beam/thrower
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>>31590699
Lack of priority is the least of Slivally's issues. If the Memories provided damage boosts similar to the plates it may see more usage.

It's Non-special Movepool is also underwhelming. No recovery, Fire Blast,Thunder,Blizzard(but get their weaker alternatives), EQ, or Calm Mind is a joke. Surprised it doesn't get Roost either when it's part avian.
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>>31590769
>>31590839
Change Multi-Attack to a special attack and give it priority +1. There, now he's OU.
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>>31587473
He's already OU in SM, though. Flying Z move + moxie is bretty gud.
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>>31590699
>>31590769
>>31590839
>>31590850
Silvally is perfectly viable, try this:
>Timid @ Dragon Memory
>252 SpA, 252 Speed
>Draco Meteor
>Flamethrower
>Parting Shot
>Thunder Wave
He's not like GOAT tier or anything, but nobody fucking expects this shit and he nabs some kills pretty well because of it.
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>>31584514
no
the stat arrangement is part of its shtick
it just needs bulk up or horn leech
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>>31590923
Calm Mind+Giga Drain is pretty good. Could use a better special movepool though.
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>>31585043
Kyurem
Mantine
Tapu Koko
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>>31586841
IT NEEDS IT SO MUCH GODDAMN
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>>31590699
>Z-Crystals are compatible with RKS System
Who the fuck in Aether Foundation thought it was a good idea to make Memories, was it Faba's bitch ass?
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>>31587473
wtf are you fucking stupid

>>31587430
this image is cringy as fuck

>>31587234
rock polish? they're not gonna give it retarded boosts

>>31587784
doesn't need it. z-bounce already does the trick with moxie
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>>31590972
yes it works well special but part of the reason cobalion is so great is that it can run both physical and special while cobalion usually relies on special only
alternatively, leech seed
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>>31583240
Zard's Megas make it OU by proxy. Typhlosion needs like five crazy changes to even be close to that. It's such a fucking shitty Pokemon.
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>>31587968
articuno needs to swap special attack with special defense
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>>31584315
Fuck that made me hard, but way too busted, he'll get thrown into Ubers immediately
I got another idea that'll be not as good but will work good enough
>Now gets drain punch
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>>31583243
>Sorry only 18 plus allowed here
30 year old fedora cuck who lives in mom's basement and still plays pokemon
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>>31583176
>gets literally any other flying attack
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>>31591156
Acrobatics works fine on it, though. But I'll agree it could use a better special Flying move.
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