Alolan Ninetales

it kinda sucks t b h

Slush Rush Sandslash operating in Hail with Toxapex is much better.

But they are both good.

>>31572690
>literally my mom's bullet punch
But yeah, best ice type since Weavile. Aurora Veil only makes it better.

>>31572690
its a good mon, smogon never put in Over User but who cares about smogon aniways.

in this last tournament "alola friendly" is really very used

A-Ninetales is a biblical beast, Snow Warning + Aurora Veil is a godsend. Access to moves like Freeze Dry and Moonblast makes her even better.

>>31572749

smogon didn't decide to not put a ninetail so in OU dummy

>>31572690
Mamo and Weav are pretty good. These three are probably the holy trinity of Ice.

Is Froslass any good this gen? Destiny Bond got nerfed, but it's still fast and it learns WoW now.

>>31572690
It still kinda sucks in Singles, but it's great on VGC. Aurora Veil is amazing.

I want to have missionary sex for the purpose of breeding with A-Vulpix

>>31572749
>aniways
>le smogon bogeyman
>STILL not knowing how smogon's tiering works

One of my favourite in-game pokemons so far... I breed one with ha + moonblast. Good performer against elite 4 and red battle.

>>31572804
Frosslass was a beast pre-bank, it outran almost every legal Pokemon in the game so it was always guaranteed at least one kill as well as a couple burns and spikes on the field.

How much arora veil reduce damage by?

>>31572690
Cloyster is pretty good

>>31572765
Why is freeze dry better than ice beam? Legit question
I mean it's just one type advantage for 20 BP difference

>>31573340
It murders bulky water/ground pokemon

>>31573340
Because you already have Blizzard.

>>31572749
>but who cares about smogon aniways
you do, clearly

>>31573363
Aurora Veil, Blizzard, Moonblast, ______
don't you run protect here? or

>>31573401
not in singles you wouldn't

>>31573340
Shits on Water/Ground, Water/Flying, Water/Grass, and other stuff like Water/Dragon.

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>>31572690
The Saviour of Ice has been around for a while.

>>31573401
In singles I run encore

>>31573417
>>31573477
right

>>31573427
>the shit that can't touch UU
FIFY

>>31572720

Sounds like your team is pretty weak to Earthquake.

>>31573340

Things like Water/Ground and Water/Flying types gets hit for 4x SE instead of neutral with Freeze Dry.

>bred a Ninetales with freeze dry, moon blast, encore, and hypnosis
>end up just slapping choice specs on and spamming blizzard

It's working pretty nicely in the tree, at least.

>>31572690
Icium-Z Kyurem-B is easily the best Ice type in Gen 7 OU.

Kyurem-W and Arceus-Ice are objectively the most powerful Ice types though.

He sucks even with veil, he can't take a hit, and he doesn't hit hard enough even with a nasty p. Boost

Alolan vulpix has cute paws

>>31573417
>>31573477
What about Ice Shard?

>>31572690
>not even AURORUS learns AURORA Veil
Well, when it's the only user of the best screen in the game...

>>31577640
Ice Shard is a legit option, possibly been equal amounts of time where I have wished I had it over Encore so its personal preference.

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Yeah, Ice types sure are good now thanks to A-Ninetales, right?

>>31572690
Alolan Ninetales is incredible on paper.

> Aurora Veil tilts the game in your favour to a ludicrous degree
> Fast Ice / Fairy to set it
> Moonblast and Blizzard are powerful
> Freeze-Dry for Water types, absolutely destroys Pelipper and Kingdra
> Can revenge kill Kingdra
> Good user of Encore

It's an offensive support with amazing potential. Unfortunately, the low Special Attack, rock weakness, and decline of Kingdra rain lessen its usefulness.

Aurora Veil is debatably worth the teamslot though.

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>>31572690

Excuse me?

>>31572749
>smogon never put in Over User

Smogon doesn't decide who goes in what tier, idiot. It's based on how much it's used. They only decide bans.

>>31572690
Weavile, it might not take a lot of hits. But it's good a giving them. Not to mention he's immune to pranksters now. So Weavile always made the ice types look good.