Should Blaziken still be Ubers?

He still outspeeds and KO's almost every offensive Pokemon in the tier after one turn. Granted Tapu Fini and Toxapex would kinda get in his way now, but ones those Pokemon are removed he would kinda just go rip and tear.

>>31569472
>Blaziken used Thunder Punch!

>>31569283
Blaziken + Lele it would be disgusting, so no.

Would still be top tier and speed boost baton pass shenanigans + lele would be dumb

>>31569283
I seriously hope we get an auto-rick room ability soon. Many pokémon will get a time to shine.

>>31569283
I don't feel he has the defenses or typing to survive the current OU but I'm probably wrong (I didn't expect Fini or Toxapex to be OU either). His Mega definitely needs to stay in Ubers though.

>>31569283
>Speedboost chicken when priority is practically nonexistent
If anything, it's better than it ever was.

Can this be an EV training thread as well? I have question...

No. It needs to run 3 attacks and protect, and even with thunder punch or eq it has a hard time breaking though fini and toxapex. Not to mention lando t completely cucks it

>>31569628
Calc it, thunder punch doesnt do shit whike he gets near 100% killed by fini surf

And if he runs thunder punch then toxapex fucks him, so he has to run eq but then he has literally no chance against fini

>>31569840
speedpassing is banned in smogon formats. But Blaziken is still too retarded.

Blazikenite will be left in ubers for sure if it's released. I expect Blaziken to be suspected at some point this gen and remain in ubers.

>>31571107
Speed passing isn't banned, passing Stats with speed is banned.

>>31569283
You run Blaziken-Greninja-Lele and your problems become non existent

>>31570335
Not really the thread for that but i can answer a question

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>>31569283
It didn't drop last gen when brave birb was everywhere, why would it drop this gen when brave birb is kill?

>>31569283
Anyone abusing z-mirror move on it, yet?

Fought someone in battle spot yesterday who used it on me. I just laughed

>>31569472
That's the point of the game anyways. Now that Blaziken has counters (and really commun at that) it should drop to OU.

>>31571572
It's still too good when there's something that auto sets Psychic terrain. After 1 protect it outspeeds non-scarfed greninja

>>31570372
>252+ Atk Blaziken Gigavolt Havoc vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Tapu Fini: 226-268 (65.6 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>252+ Atk Blaziken Tectonic Rage vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Toxapex: 238-282 (78.2 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Wow. Z-moves don't help either.

>>31571593
Fini's and toxapex's set up wouldn't OHKO Blaziken, so you either let it die to EQ or chance that your opponent doesn't read you switching out a regen toxapex and go for a different move/switch. It's a problem when your landorus is dead.

>>31569283
He should have been dropped last gen DESU. There are many OU pokemons that check and counter it with ease. And baton pass ban is just a nail to the coffin as it can't execute sd + bp sets.

>>31569283
>>>31571572
>After 1 protect it outspeeds non-scarfed greninja
>Scarf greninja
Kek

>>31571618
>baneful buker
>scald chip damage
I think toxa can handle blaze kentucky alone...

>>31571757
Scarf greninja is used to set up IKU Z easily.