ITT: Post your favourite pokemon that nobody ever talks about.

>>31568949
>mega slowking will never happen
God fucking damn it.

>>31568949
Slowking has a niche use though, anon. Dragon Tail phaser with an Assault Vest. It also gets Power Gem while Slowbro does not.

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>>31568949
>Crobat and Forretress
Both were my bros in Gen 2. Forretress is woefully outclassed by Ferrothorn sadly and Crobat is still good, but most people just hate the Zubat line in general because they lurk in pretty much every cave ever.

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My favourite mon is actually serperior but it gets enough discussion thanks to the snake Saturday threads(with got archived extremely quickly because of the disaster) so this guy is a close second.

I don't see tyranitar getting much discussion and when it does people just start spamming things like.

>machop used low kick!

yes I know tyranitar gets BTFO by any fighting type attack but it sponges any special attack thrown at it and hits like a truck with a choice band.

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I just don't understand why Eelektross isn't more popular.
>GOAT design
>great typing + ability
>insanely diverse movepool with access to Coil
>fun to use in-game due to a steady evolution process

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>>31568949
>vileplume but worse
>it got quiver dance this gen but it's still shit

>>31569931
are you kidding? there's always some guy talking about how much of a bro he is because of his retarded sprite dance

he's extremely popular, one of the most popular gen 5 pokemon

>>31569954
Really? I've literally never seen him talked about on 4chan or gamefaqs ever.

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>>31569952
I really feel Lilligant's design should have been used as Bellossom's Mega evo.

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Always being overshadowed by that bitch Gardevoir.
And then fucking Audino got a Mega and she got left behind.

>>31569959
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/Eelektross/

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You'd think that with such an awesome ability, better than average movepool, and priority sucker punch, people would talk more about it.

>>31569994
All that work and an Ultra ball ;_;

>>31570080
wut?

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>>31568949
It used to get a fair amount of discussion before ORAS was announced but then the le never ever meme killed him completely

>>31570108
It's in a shit pokeball. Should've done any other nice looking ball.

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some complain about pranksters in general apart from tht whimsy doesn't get mentioned

>>31570108
Balltism

>>31570113
wait for the flygon mega to complety shit on everyone
dd flygon is just the first step

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Posting anyway, even though Masuda remembered it yesterday in that "how many Pokemon can you remember in 20 seconds" video.

>>31570114
>>31570127
balltism is truly one of the worst tisms. the ball is just a tool

about 70% of my pokemon are just in quick balls

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>>31568949
Gen. 5 Pokemon that isn't offensive enough to be used as an insult against it nor remarkable enough to be used as praise. Can't be found naturally like other Pokemon. Every other Water/Flying type getting buffs, leaving it in the dust.

just

>>31570136
To be fair Swanna is still a relatively new Pokemon
It took Mantine 5 generations to finally get a solid buff, and Pelipper took 4

>>31570131
>eeveelution
>nobody ever talks about

>>31570136
I feel it should've got more dance moves, what with it's swan lake motif and all.

>>31569971
I like Gothitelle more than Gardevoir and when I start Goth threads, they either die tight away or Gatdefags raid and ruin the thread

>>31570129
I can only hope. They put him in the Alolan Pokedex for a reason, r-right?

>>31569931
>I just don't understand why Eelektross isn't more popular
Because it has garbage stat distribution. Have you SEEN his defenses and speed? They put all his points into mixed offenses and that was a mistake.

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>>31569994
>4'7" manlet despite looking huge as shit
>Garbage stats
>"GUYS WHY DON'T PEOPLE LIKE NIDOKING?!"
Gee I wonder why.

>>31570133
Literal cancer

>>31570165
Honestly it's probably that she doesn't have that much art. I can find very little on her and that's what keeps threads alive.

>>31570211

Having no speed would have been fine if it were bulkier, but it's kind of on that weird middle ground between frail and reasonably bulky. It hurts. It really needed higher stats (as in, higher BST to allocate) considering it takes way more work to get than Gyarados.

>>31569994
My friend and I are huge fans of the Nidos. He used to use one and a Rhydon on his Gen 1 team, and I used Nidoqueen on my mono-Poison team. Really wish they swapped their Attack and Special Attack stats though.

>>31570300
>TFW if Eelektross had better bulk in exchange for some offense and Regenerator as its HA it'd be the best Assault Vest user in the game
Fucker gets Knock Off, U-Turn, Volt Switch, Dragon Tail, Drain Punch, AND Giga Drain. They missed an opportunity here.

>>31570211
It's not THAT bad. 85/80/80 defenses is something every other mixed offense mon wishes for and with it's 3 resistances, 1 immunity and no weaknesses, it can switch in fairly easily. Speed can be remedied with paralysis (T-Wave on the switch) or gimmick Trick Room. It has an amazing movepool on both sides as well.

Special:
T-bolt
Flamethrower
Grass Knot
Flash Cannon
Volt Switch

Physical
Crunch
U-Turn
Drain Punch
Power-Up Punch
Acrobatics
Wild Charge

Boosting Moves
Coil
Hone Claws

It can also set up or pass screens. It's not OU tier by any means, but it definitely is slept on imo.

>>31570384
>85/80/80 defenses is something every other mixed offense mon wishes for
Except those mons also aren't sitting on fucking 85 base speed and have higher offenses.
>It has an amazing movepool on both sides as well.
Except it's special move pool is MUCH better and it only has 85 SpA to work with while it does not have the bulk or speed to back that up. Also, you forgot Bubblebeam as a special move option.
>Boosting moves
Nidoking has no recovery to take advantage of these and none of them boost it's meager speed. Call me when it gets Quiver Dance or Dragon Dance.

>>31570232
Getting over 200 base power on it's stab without being locked into a move more than makes up for it's middling speed which is it's only problem.

>>31570449
>Acknowledges the problem
>Still confused as to why people don't like it
???

>>31570476
>gave a good reason why the problem is overshadowed

>still being ignorant

???

>>31570497
Gosh anon you sure showed me! I'm gonna go breed a Nidoking and climb to the top of the ladder right now!

I mean, he's so good right? Surely it's not his actual problems holding him back, no, it's the fact that people overlook him!

>>31570511
I don't care what you do.

You can like it or hate it but it has its place in the meta with all of the tapus running around.

>>31570534
Then explain why it has almost no usage without saying something along the lines of:
>P-PEOPLE JUST DON'T REALIZE HOW GOOD IT IS!
Go on, I'll wait.

>>31570430
I was talking about Eelektross, not Nidoking.

>>31569994
I don't think it got anything new this gen. It's been a good mixed/special attacker since gen 1. There's not really anything left to talk about when it comes to Nidoking.

>>31570449
Sheer Force Nidoking is just a bad Landorus. Even with the latter being banned there isn't much reason to run one over other, more competent wallbreakers.

>>31570549
Have you used one?

I did in both oras and SM it can one shot gengar and alakazam with sucker punch, out-speed and kill metagross, and shits on fairy types.

You must be one of those people that think because a mon doesn't have 100+ speed it's irrelevant.

Steelix
Cofagrigus

>>31569994
>Muscle pokemon
> is better when using special attacks

This is whats wrong.

>>31570600
>Leaving any of those Pokemon in against a Nidoking
So you're celebrating that you beat shitters?

>>31570592
>just a bad landorus

In terms of movepool nidoking outclasses landorus. Doesn't prove much of a point when comparing nidoking to mons that are uber either.

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>>31568949
my nigguh

>>31570612
Don't be a retard. You would only switch if you knew for sure nidoking even had sucker punch.

>>31570631
>Implying I'd fucking gamble
You've never played actual competitive, have you?

>>31568949
>>31568952

Agreed with both these. I fucking love both Slowbro and Slowking but I can never find a good reason to use Slowking whereas Slowbro, both mega and regular, has basically cemented itself as one my bromon for life.

>Alolan Slowking never happened
This was the worst part of Gen VII desu fuck you gamefreak

>>31570646
>slowpoke already has two evolutions
>not giving it a third was the worst part of gen 7
???

>>31570640
>implying I'd gamble

Right, so switching out to another mon that will take 60-70 or OHKO is a better option than staying in with a mon that not only has the type advantage but outspeeds.

Your argument is stupid and contradicts itself.

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>>31570600
>252 Atk Life Orb Nidoking Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Alakazam-Mega: 237-281 (94.4 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Nidoking Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 255-302 (98.4 - 116.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
>252 Atk Life Orb Nidoking Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Metagross-Mega: 252-299 (83.7 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Don't make up lies, anon.

>>31570600
Ignore them anon. I used Nidoqueen to some success online on my mono-Poison team, even against teams stacked with Legendaries, Ubers or mono-Steel teams. Some people complain if they have to use some actual thought and strategy when using a Pokemon. Reminder that a fcking Pachisuru made a splash at the VGC scene awhile back. If you know how and when to use a Pokemon, even a proclaimed shitmon might find a niche, but at the same time you need to realize that its shortcomings as well.

>>31570665
>using a mega alakazam

>implying there is no attack investment on nidoking

Anon stop being retarded.

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>>31570600
>out-speed and kill metagross
>Nidoking's base speed is 85
>M-Metagross has 110
And just like that, you outted yourself as a complete fucking retard.

>>31570687
>no attack investment on nidoking
Do you fucking read? And who the fuck uses non-mega Alakazam ever?

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Childhood favorite, but for something that never gets discussion or mention, it's also never brought up in the forgettable Pokemon threads. Maybe it truly is forgotten even in those threads. I've seen some fans of it here and there on /vp/ however so maybe I'm just downplaying how memorable it is.

>>31570689
Did I say mega metagross or regular metagross?

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>>31570649

I'm a biased man, anon.

>>31570719
Then you played against fucking shitters. Here's the breakdown for you because you're apparently slow.
>M-Alakazam
Nidoking has a 68% chance of killing it, if it fails it dies.
>Regular Alakazam
Irrelevant because it's shit.
>Gengar
Gengar fails to OHKO Nidoking with ANYTHING and is retarded if it stays in regardless of Sucker Punch. But even if it does its not a guaranteed OHKO, you faced a shitter.
>M-Metagross
Nidoking outright loses.
>Regular Metagross
See regular Alakazam

>>31570696
Who would use a rash nidoking without SPECIAL ATTACK investment.

>>31570755
Here's where you're not understanding. I never fucking said mega alakazam dipshit.

>>31570758
Anon when the fuck did I say it was Rash? I used a Jolly one for maximum Attack and Speed as that's what the anon insisted his was capable of. If it's not Jolly and you take points out of speed or attack it DEFINITELY isn't getting those KOs that were boasted and it's not even going to outspeed regular Metagross, let alone OHKO it.

>>31570773
Regular Alakazam is fucking bad you dipshit. Why are you bragging about beating shitters?

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Hardly see Accelgor discussed anywhere despite its cool yet unique design.

>>31569994
He was a massive bro in the Gen 1 days but for some reason using him in current gens just doesn't feel the same.

>>31570774
Max out speed then put the remaining ev's into attack and special attack
>>31570784
Funny how you're saying it's bad when it has a better stat distribution and is in a higher "tier" than nidoking. It kills gengar too which is actually more seen.

>>31570795
This. I really thought it was gonna make a bigger splash with its Sp. Attack and Speed stat, but sadly no.

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I used this just for the fun of it in my ORAS run and he was one of the highlights of my team, surprisingly diverse movepool.

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My main bro, so sad pokemon are deemed shit unless they break 100 speed.
Shallowish movepool, but has access to megahorn, xscissor, iron head and drill run.
Underrated
And will find a way to make him work

>>31570561
well they got +10 BSTs last gen

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Best steel type

Metagross can go fuck itself

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don't know if it's hated or not, since no one ever mentions it

>>31569909
It also gets Nasty Plot over Slowbro and it's still not enough.

Tragic.

>>31571909
great design but they should have made it available somewhere other than a single route with no mandatory grass. Totally missed him on my playthrough

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>>31570834
There were Flabebe line threads daily when Gen 6 was new. Nowadays, the "new toy" charm has worn off with more viable fairies introduced.

Also her pre evo's "special form" outclasses her in every way.

>>31570113
It's ALWAYS talked about though, even by people outside NEVER EVER. Flygon is popular as fuck.

>>31569952
Bellossom was my bro back in the early days of Ruby. I don't remember why I was using two grass types anyway (Sceptile was my starter) but I do remember owning shit with petal dance. I miss those days.

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Absolutely fucking love this thing but only see it compared to owl. Dhelmise deserves better.

>>31572734
In VGC, Dhelmise is a solid option for Trick Room-based teams. Decidueye has nothing to stand out.

>>31568949
I used it in Gen VIas some weird AV Modest regen pivot with 252 HP and 252 SpA.
Put Scald, Future Sight, Fire Blast, and Shadow Ball on it. Future Sight allowed me to switch into my bulky Mega Altaria without having to worry about things like Gengar fucking my shit up.

Coupled with Tangrowth, got 1600 on Shitdown so I felt like it was okay.

>>31569994
He's my bro anon, I feel you. I make sure to put him on every offensive team I can. A true nigga through and through

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My beautiful Alolan Grimer has had the worst of luck

>Only being available post-game despite being a Johto-mon
>The only place in the entire franchise where its a somewhat commom Pokemon is Hoenn so everybody thinks its a Hoennmon
>Didn't appear in the Alola Dex despite having an entire island being an active volcano
>Shit stats, shit movepool

I'll still love it no matter what

>>31570253
Balltism must be worse than cancer then.

>>31570665
>not sheer force earth power against the metagross

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>>31569994
>special nidoking
enjoy your meme shit set

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>>31571320
This guy recently became a bro on my playthrough of bw2

11/11 top tier taste anon

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>>31571320
To add to this, its really a shame that so many cool /b/ros are ruined because of shallow movepool

Luckily i think Escavalier has just enough. you forgot he learns fsll stinger, poison jab from TM, pursuit from egg moves and is one of the few pokemon with smart strike!


we'll find a way to make him work, anon

>>31575327
Special Nido does more than phys because of the sheer force bonus so it's not really a meme

>>31575692
>higher attack
>that nobody uses because of sheer force

Nidoking is an example of why gamefreak sucks