Battle Tree General: New Toys Edition

Would Swampert/Blaziken/Sceptile work without the mega stones? They're like my biggest bros
And no, not in the same team ofc

>>31530615
ive been using infernape (because he is my bro), raikou, and either mega gyarados or mega metagross, didnt expect much from it went on a 60 streak with infernape/raikou/gyarados

>>31530648
Share ape set pls

>>31530615
Bubblebeam Jynx and Bubblebeam Nidoking could be decent on low-mid round counts

>>31530638
Have you never used them before gen 6 or something?

>>31530638
Speed boost blaziken shenanigans probably have their niche.

>>31530638
Swampert and Blaziken should be solid for the tree, idk about sceptile no megastone hurts him the most

>>31530662
>Have you never used them before gen 6 or something?
Yeah, before gen 6. I don't have ORAS or XY for that matter

>>31530660
Flare Blitz/Close Combat/U-Turn/Earthquake with choice band, i use him as lead in the tree

At work but planning on using Heatran and Terrakion

Still to beat doublels. If I lead with A-Ninetales and Megagross,
>how fucked will I be
>what should I run as 3rd and 4th
i never play doubles really, so
inb4 missagross

>>31530815
Landorus-T, Rotom W if you have those in bank

Now that bank is out, I need a fool proof team to get me to 50 wins.

Must be fool proof. I am foolish apparently since I've tried several teams posted here and never got past 43 wins.

The next attempt will be my 14th attempt.

>>31530876
umm, I don't so I'll run garchomp and breed a rotom-wash

118th battle, it was good until it lasted. Goddamit, I really wanted that Starf Berry

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>>31530615
level 1 Aron and Mat Block Greninja fuck doubles sideways.

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>>31531957
>mfw I even had a 60% chance of OHKOing that Gengar

252+ SpA Tapu Lele Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gengar: 242-286 (93.4 - 110.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

Could've the AI luck fucked me more?

Just came here to say, I beat the singles with a Smeargle, Dhelmise and Mimikyu combo.
Smeargle had Belly Drum and Batton Pass + 2 moves...
Bye!

Recommended mons for getting to 50 in super doubles? I never play doubles so i'm at a loss.

>>31533858
I'm currently running Glalie, Pelipper, Gastrodon, Electivire. Made it to 29 so far (first attempt), but haven't been at it very long. I'm having fun, so I guess I recommend it.

>>31531210
Cellesetla mimikyu m garchomp

>>31531210
>foolproof
No such thing. If you don't know how to use a team, you'll always get destroyed. Just getting suggestions for 'mons won't help if you can't figure out what to run on them or how to use them together. A pre-built team running something non-obvious would have to be explained, too

>>31533858
>>31534248
Here you go anons, this should help

KFXG-WWWW-WWW4-Z7T3

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>good conkeldurr with knock off, ice punch, and mach punch finally available
I've been waiting a long time for this.

>>31530615
Lum berry dodrio is pretty fun. Tried supersonic skystrike and all out pummeling, too, and they were OK. SD, brave bird, jump kick, and knock off, but you can substitute knock off for return or quick attack.

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>playing super doubles
>lose in the 43 fight because megagross miss hammer arm 3 times

>>31530815

Garchomp + anything that is immune to Earthquake.

Not even kidding, all I did was spam that shit and then for flying types I spammed rock slide and got flinches every time somehow. Currently at 25 in super doubles and I don't even have perfect IVs or full EV training. I'm sure that doesn't work farther down the road when they throw legendaries at you though. I am going to keep going with this just to see how far I can take it, but I'm sure I'll get shut down at some point. My garchomp seems to outspeed fucking everything though.

>>31537067

Oh, and I paired my Garchomp with choice banded Toucannon for the shits and giggles. Rock blast and bullet seed are retarded with how many KOs I get since I have max attack on it. You would think I would die to ice types easily due to both having weaknesses, but ice types are weak against earthquake and garchomp outspeeds all of them, so it doesn't even matter.

Not even fairies give me issues because I can switch into alolan ninetales and spam blizzard.

>>31537067
>Garchomp + anything that is immune to Earthquake.
This is actually how I won super multis pre-bank, thanks Cynthia

>>31537038
>Using an attack that has an accuracy lower than 100% in the Battle Tree
Your own fault desu

I've lost 3 fucking times at round 20 due to really shitty luck/judgement
>Mispredict with Porygon-Z and get blown back by Kiawe's mega Kanga
>Miss Tail Slap with Cinccino on Colress' Electrode
>Miss Hammer Arm with Mega Meta on Grimsley's Sharpedo

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>>31537038
And this is precisely why you go for perfect accuracy/no guard in the tree whenever possible.

>>31537067

Still playing and I'm at 30 now with this retarded strategy. AI keeps using physical attacks on Garchomp and activating rough skin and uses endure while hail is up. Plus them focusing all their attacks on Garchomp that can take several hits and not Toucannon that dies in one hit to anything is hilarious.

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>>31537307
Don't get too cocky senpai. The tree is baiting you into a false sense of security.

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>>31530615
I've been using these guys, the synergy is obscene, hit 31 streak in one day without more than one pokemon ever fainting.

>>31537329
Gliscor is top tier for these facilities, I like throwing one onto almost any team that needs a physical wall.

>>31537344
Yeah i'm leading with swords dance gliscor, and can simply switch into unbreakable walls and start the toxic/leech seed fun if anything prevents the sweep.

>>31537326

I figured that since I got blizzard'd before so I put focus sash on Garchomp in such a case... and somehow I keep getting luckier than the ai with that. Either the 1 hit KO moves keep missing or they activate my focus sash and then I proceed to rape everything in one hit.

Hell I just had the ai spam thunder wave 3 times and they all missed. I don't even know, I guess I'm just lucky so far. Haven't seen any hax yet.

Protean Greninja is still great.

>>31537415
i got one fully trained from gts
what do you run on him

Arise

>>31537038
Thats why missgross is quite bad in tree

>>31530615
Does anyone have a good set for doubles? I used MLucario, Garchomp and Tapu Fini and got to 50 in singles will they be any good in doubles?

Could someone please link me the page that shows all the battle tree sets the NPCs use?

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>>31540812

Here ya go.
http://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/battletree.shtml
https://turskain.github.io/

>>31540850
Thank you very much. I'm at 40 and don't want to choke against a random scarf.

Since Bank is released, is Whimsicott, Durant, and Drapion still the best team to use?

>>31541406
Kangaskhan, Chansey, Gliscor maybe?

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Oh fug, feeling the heat
it's my last stamp

>>31541718
well that was easier than I thought it would be, I struggled way more with the earlier ones
three stamps get, shit's done

>>31541767
Grats anon. I'd have been much more concerned if that was multis 50. What was your team.

>>31541790
A-Ninetales, Megagross, Garchomp and Rotom-Wash

I just got swept in my 29th battle in super doubles because I overestimated an Oranguru by setting up on it and it used trick room to sweep my team with a Mega Mawile and a Torterra.

>>31541805
and at battle 58 missagross comes in with a fantastic double miss on a focus punch user

>excited to finally have Hyper Voice Sylveon back
>realize Torkoal/Lilligant is better now

>>31531210

Megamence
Tapu Koko
Mimikyu

Oh, wait...

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I broke it guys. Again.

Or at least I made a significant crack. This team is almost perfect.

The idea is to abuse the AI with the good old lvl1Cybertron+Greninja combo. Turn 1, you Endeavor the biggest threat and Mat Block. Turn 2, you Protect+Surf for easy damage and a knock out. After that, Endeavor and use the Protean type switches to survive spread moves and prioritize the right targets (single targets will ALMOST always go after Aron as long as it's alive).

In the back, we have a max Speed Charizard Y and a max Speed Landorus to clean up anything that manages to break through the combo.

Notes:
>Know your speed tiers and check the opponents pool for potential scarf users.(http://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/battletree/)
>Endeavor doesn't work against Ghost types, use Toxic instead
>Endeavor is a contact move, so don't use it against things that carry Rocky Helmet or Rough Skin/Iron Barbs/Flame Body abilities.
>Opponent will rarely setup hail while Aron lives, but hail will break your sash. Keep it in mind.
>It is sometimes correct to Surf/Earthquake your own Aron. Make the judgement call.
>Life Orb was the best Item for Greninja in gen6, but the Battle Tree AI is a little smarter than the Battle Maison AI. If something on the opponents team leans thunderwave, they will use it. Trust me, I learned it the hard way.
>Z-moves go through Mat Block, but at the same reduction as they do with Protect.
>The only Pokemon that constantly pissed me off, was Aerodactyl. Consider swapping Groundium Z for Rockium Z just for that.
>Don't trust Heat Wave. Only use it if you're desperate or have a backup plan.

>>31544958
Wait, how?

Multis partners I've scouted are all pretty shit, what are the best partner for an Azelf and a Mega Latios?

>>31545966
Colress with his steel types

>>31546944
No I meant Azelf and Mega Latios are the best I've found. That or Terrakion and Landorus. I wanna try taking on Multis with either of those, and if I can't I'll keep looking for MegaGross Colress

What are the best pokemon to sweep the Battle Tree? Need to grab those mega stones

I'll just leave some Protean Greninja and Speed Boost Blaziken shenanigans here...

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>>31548715
I used Mimikyu, Multiscale Dragonite, and M-Metagross. It was pretty good for cheesing. Watch out for Mold Breaker.

>>31530615
Yeah my strategy is now to use Assault Vest Mega Mawile and Choice Specs Mega Gardevoir plus FSash Protean Greninja and Iron Head/Extreme Speed Choice Band Dragonite.

It just kind of works. Sadly there is no Mega Pidgeotite and I updated at some point so there's no Sheer Cold/Horn Drill/Fissure Madness.

>>31549220
Also the BT is more responsive than Maison was. So using this combination ALWAYS baits out physical Earth and Fire type sweepers that just get blown away. Every fight. It's fucking hilarious.

>accidentally transferred over an always-mega alakazam with diamond storm, freeze dry, psystrike, and earth power
>also brought over a diamond storm, EP, freeze dry, and fusion flare greninja
Do I....Do I use them? I already have all my stamps, I guess I could just see how far I can get with them.

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>still can't upload certain replays because reasons

>>31549220
>items on megas
>mega mawile in sun and moon
k

Zard X is awesome in the tree.

>>31545966
Get Wally. His Mega Gallade is awesome, but his Garchomp sucks because he wastes turns using Sandstorm.

>>31551503

You have to hope to get his Mega Gallade and his Scarf Chomp, for some stupid reason, the A.I can roll two mega mons on the same team which is where the sandstorm spam comes from.

>Get to match 20 in the Battle Tree with Infiltrator Crobat, Belly Drum Linoone and Crit Absol
>tfw cucked by Focus Sash Accelgor and Avalugg

My team is

Linoone @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Pickup
Jolly Nature
- Belly Drum
- Shadow Claw
- Play Rough
- Extreme Speed

Absol @ Scope Lens
Ability: Super Luck
Adamant Nature
- Shadow Claw
- Stone Edge
- Psycho Cut
- Sucker Punch

Crobat @ Black Sludge
Ability: Infiltrator
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Cross Poison
- Leech Life
- Haze

Thinking of changing Crobat for a special attacker, any ideas?

>>31551713
>scope lens absol
>black sludge crobat
>linoone
I'm not trying to be mean but you're going absolutely nowhere with those Pokemon. This isn't your standard in-game Pokemon enemy, these trainers are almost competitive-tier after a point. On top of that you'll get counter-teamed. You need Pokemon that make you feel terrible for using them.

>>31552056
You'd be surprised what works in the tree with the right synergy

>>31552056
I know, I made it to match 20 with these 3, I just testing combinations, I can sweep with Linoone if the enemy doesn't have Fake Out or Focus Sash, I want to get to 50 wins and I want to get some of the stones, any pokemon and sets I should work on?

>>31552159
metagross is good for tree even before you get the stone, same with garchomp

>>31537438
I run max SpAtk/ speed, surf, ice beam, grass knot, extrasensory

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>Super doubles
>some where in late 30's
>Get to a point where it's my Araquanid agasint there snorlax
>Lunge it over and over to reduce its attack
>It's just about dead
>I can survive it's body slams easy
>THE OPPONENTS SNORLAX USED FISSURE
>nofuckingway.jpg
>It won't hit
>It hits
>fuck me

>>31552056
They're still bots, they're still predictable, you can win with any team that has good synergy, most of the tree is just remembering the movesets of Pokemon and play around them, for example, Scrafty will always Fake Out then use Substitute and finally Focus Punch, a Skarmory will always use Spikes or Stealth Rock first

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>>31552375
Loving every laugh

>>31530615

What's the source for the .gif?

>>31552451
i think its the movie lucario and the mystery of mew or something

>>31552188
>metagross
>good
Maybe without the tree's hidden accuracy adjustments

>>31552542
>hidden accuracy adjustments
what do you mean?

>>31552577
his own delusions about how he loses in the tree, expect shit like meteor mash to miss and u wont be disappointed

>>31552542
Just give Metagross the elemental punches and Iron Head.

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>>31552605
Try actually playing and not just lurking, 90% accuracy is absolutely not the same in the tree. Metagross gets 2 moves worth using that have 100% accuracy, it's not worth using.
>just expect all your moves to miss and you'll be ok

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What moveset are you using for Mimikyu?

Just tried the battle tree for the first time using my old bros and i got to 13 wins, i heard Mimikyu is really good for the tree so i want to breed one

>>31552686
swords dance/shadow claw/play rough/shadow sneak with life orb, i use it as lead most of the time in tree free +2 attack on almost everything into sweep mode

>>31552686
I use that with the Z crystal

I don't fucking get it.
Since i have drizzle politoed in my team the enemies keep using fucking Ludicolo, or at least a pokemon with an ability useful under rain.
Are the enemies of the battle tree adjusting to my team?

>>31553769
maybe it's just confirmation bias but I think so too

>>31553769
Well rain and sun teams seem to come up a lot for me too and I'm not running weather

>>31553899
>opponents team rotates weathers in doubles
epic

>>31553899
>>31553921
i'm not talking about that, i'm talking about fucking ludicolo.
Its like there is at least one every two battles, not kidding.

>>31554157
idk, i had mawile in 4 battles out of 10 at one point when one of my leads was ninetales
could be or could not be

>>31554157
and i fucking bet that if a put a bird in my team they will disappear

>>31554169
so it seems that instead of make a better AI they just fucking cheat

>>31554170
Nah even with megamence ludicolo is still common. Damn fake outs.

I tried sweeping doubles with an Eeveeboost team, but they AI actually starts leading Taunt+Roar against it after battle 10.

Dragon Dance + Follow should still work though