/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

I can't believe people actually care this much about that scam.

>>31521108
The fact it's so shit is the reason people are flooding.

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SIDE TOPIC: Favorite Pokemon to bring on trips that isn't part of your starter duo? Hacked starters count as the starter duo.

>>31521108
Dont know why people can't just stick to a few threads instead of making like 50 threads about the same thing.

>>31520651
wait what?, the old thread got killed, fuck

>>31521324
it's vp, what do you expect?

What's a good Pokémon for level 1 dungeons in RT aside from Kecleon and Alakazam?

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Don't forget to bring raincoats and umbrellas on your adventures, /pmdg/! Especially if you're a Fire type!

>>31522548
Drifbl-

>RT

Charizard starts with Heat Wave, and Wooper has Damp. I ran those two alongside Kecleon when i did Wish cave runs by the dozen. Someone told me Electrode might be good, too.

>>31522562
>bringing raincoats when water heals my leader

>>31521108
what scam?

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>>31521108
you mean pokebank?
>tfw all of the shit it does on G1->G7 transfer
The Shininess is not even correctly done.
>>31523487
>team skull
So uh, how dead are they after Brine Cave?

>>31523502
>how dead are they after Brine Cave?
Hopefully. Fuck them, you never even get to fight them properly

>>31523487
Why

>>31523529
DUDE MISUNDERSTANDINGS LMAO

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>playing Gates for the first time
>interactable environments
>enemies in the overworld
Why didn't Super keep these?

>>31521249
It doesn't help that the catalog is constantly being flooded by shitposting too.

Comic guy still here?

>>31521108
What scam? Did I miss something?

Also is the cosplaying anon around? Where'd you get the badge and emera looplet from?

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I love Sky's story but there's something that I find missing. I'm spoiling just in the occasion that somebody is still going through it.

So at the end of the day you have to take all the Time Gears to the Temporal Tower to stop its own destruction and thus the planet's paralysis; what I don't get is why they were moved out of that tower, then. What is the reasoning? Was it all made with the mentality that all life must perish at some point, or is there a catch here that I overlooked? If it is explained later into the game, then just tell me to lurk some moar, because I've just finished Manaphy arc. I don't remember anything else after this point.

>>31525615
lurk moar

>>31525615
I think it's because Temporal Tower was collapsing.

>mfw I didn't play Sky enough to know how Giratina works
how does origin forme work in sky

>>31525615
They never explained it

>>31526284
It doesn't exist if I remember correctly. Only Shaymin got the Platinum form.

>>31525615
Perhaps there was a previous time crisis that required TT to give up the time gears and distrubute them to prevent temporal distortion.
Perhaps the time gears were a failsafe.
Perhaps the time gears were supposed to be moved back after something from the above happened, but they forgot about it or Dialga got insane.
Fuck if I know. I just fill it in with headcannon.

>>31526377
It's on the spriters resources so it does exist.

You're confusing it with Rotom, which is the one who got the short end of the stick.

>>31527224
Good riddance, Rotom is absurdly annoying.

If you edit your starters on Super Mystery Dungeon, what happens in the part where you and your partner evolve temporally? Does the game crash?

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>>31527311
>certain dungeons

>>31527465
I wonder how much different Altered is to Origin in level 1

>>31527338
Nope. They seem to evolve fine. I've never done it but theres a guy who went in with Jigglypuff and Poochyena and they evolved into Wigglytuff and Mightyena just fine. But Pokémon that can't evolve (like legendaries) just turn white.

>>31524299
I thought gates came after super

>>31528036
Gates is the first 3DS PMD with Super second. Super's generally regarded as an improvement, but apparently several features didn't carry over from Gates.

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>>31527338
Pic related happened when i did it. If i recall correctly they T-pose during the evolution animation

>>31525340
hi anon
I got my stuff from a dude who runs a store on etsy called procosplayoutfit who does 3d printing things for cosplayers, his store has a bunch of overwatch stuff on it but you can contact him for custom stuff like I did for the PMD gear.
the cost for two expedition badges and the looplet were $200 if you're wondering

>>31528398
Does the expedition badge allow me to get exp if you punch out a mugger?

>>31528466
maybe when I've finished my connection orb

>>31528100
>but apparently several features didn't carry over from Gates.

They cut almost every new feature that gates had
>No V-wave
>No base building
>No minigames
>No interactable environments
>no enemies in the overworld

they keep a few things like
>Leveling moves But it's utter shit now
>Game mode where you can play as another team Though not quite the same
>3D models and cutscenes
>Cofagrigus and his gold bar shop which was improved and perfected

>>31528735
You forgot Mysteriosity
and pressing Y to skip animations

>>31528885
>You forgot Mysteriosity
Holy fuck, you're right, that's one of the thing that make the less sense to remove

>>31528713
literally still couldn't find an Unown T

What are the chances of it spawning?

>>31529392
No clue, just be prepared to be there for awhile. It took me an entire day to recruit all the Unown when i tried. Although you're probably just hoping for the stone.

>>31529646
Yes, just looking for the stone. Took a break from the game for some time, but I think I'll try again later.

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AT LAST

>recruits show up wandering around Paradise
Neat, it's like customizable Friend Areas.

Miiverse wouldn't let me take a screenshot for some reason. Is Gates not supported or something? Any way around it?

>>31521324
I've been playing Blue Rescue team a lot, and so far, I've really enjoyed bringing along a little Pidgey named Otto I named it after the one from Silver Resistance because I am a massive dork and something about seeing that itty bitty bird hop behind my main duo is so nice.
It was a real hassle recruiting it, too, since it's a sort of rare spawn for Howling Forest... It has a cute sprite, so I like it a lot. It's the simple things that are the most enjoyable.

>>31523502
Very dead, I'm guessing. They never show up again, so I'm wondering if the kabutops and omanyte got them when they fled...

>>31531067
What's your main duo?

Also if you want something cute, Wooper's walk animation is just it skipping around everywhere, it's adorable

>>31530965
Miiverse doesn't allow you to take screenshots in some games for no apparent reason. Just use NTR.

>>31531132
Cubone and Pikachu. I didn't know this, but Cubone can apparently learn moves like Flamethrower and Ice Beam, which is very useful. I just beat the main story, so I'm into unknown territory now, since I've never really gotten beyond Buried Relic before resetting to try a new team...
I will get a wooper, though! I want to make a ground themed team, and it'll fit in well.

>>31531067
>mfw pidgey spawns so commonly in tiny woods but you can't recruit it there
for. what. reasons.

>>31531258
>Cubone and Pikachu
Great picks, used that team myself. Bonemerang a best.

>>31523487
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>31531238
Took a while since all this stuff is new to me, but I finally got a screenshot for my efforts.
Hacking my 3DS was one of the best decisions I ever made, I can't believe I didn't do this sooner

gti has the best dungeon textures

So I think I remembered that someone found a way to make the player and partner characters any Pokémon they wanted in the DS games. Are they in that mega.nz link, or does it only include the characters in that portrait file?

>>31532255
Sky Editor allows you to choose for any Pokémon you want. Most don't have all of the portraits though, but you can add them manually if you have fanmade ones.

>>31532255
The portraits are just for the very few mons that have customs made. You can use the Sky Editor to have all sorts of different choices for starter/partner choices. Most people just set the same pokemon for all 20 options on each side to force a specific duo.

Maybe it's just me, but GtI's dungeon generation feels weird. Like there's too many corridors and all the rooms are tiny.

>>31532469
It's probably because of the simplistic way the used to generate them compared to the other games. You can easily recognize the various parts even if you don't pay attention.

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>>31532469
Yeah, it goes for Super too, to a lesser extent. So many tiny rooms everywhere. Hell, i found a trap IN a hallway once

I've been replaying Explorers of Sky recently for the first time since it came out and I forgot how emotional and story rich it is. It's the first game I've played in ages where I actually feel attached to a character, even though I know what happens

>>31532880
The experience was grand, where you felt in a world nearly alien but not so much.

What's the name of this battle theme that plays against the Regis?

>>31532986
Forgot to mention it's in Sky.

>>31533008
>>31532986
It's called Defy The Legends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16BDCSf41Yc

>>31533008
>>31533030
You also may recognize it as a final boss theme, if you played RT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdRThHGTzjQ

>>31533030
Thanks!

>>31533047
Oh, so that's why it felt somewhat familiar. Sweet.

>>31532880
How can the gen 7 mystery dungeon be at least as good as sky storywise?

>>31533059
By not trying to ape it or any other game.

>>31532649
This is probably my biggest complaint with Super. The hunger mechanic sucks the big cock, on top of that all of the "difficult" dungeon are just comprised of twenty small rooms so you need to eat an apple every two to four floors.

>>31533059
They need to
>Not copy games before it
>develop their characters and not leave them and forget about them after the first arc is done
>try to be experimental and take some risk and new ideas

>>31533154
Woah woah woah, you might wanna put that in a spoiler and write ''unpopular opinion ahead'', a lot of people here seems to think that hunger is totally fine and actually a nice way to challenge the player. personally i think it sucks too and that it need to be reworked into something that isn't just an annoying timer

>>31533368
>hunger is totally fine
It is. I agree that it should be improved, but it's also fine the way it is.

>>31528735
I miss building Paradise. It was really fun and I liked the minigames

>>31523487
CHAW-HAW-HAW

>>31531067
I'm on Chapter 39. I find the names of the cadet team mons difficult to memorize, what I mean is that I hear "Taka" and don't even remember the Pokemon. All other characters I notice fine. Personally, I think of nicknames as more like their "last name", and are adressed by their species name unless there is some sort of special address or there are multiples of the same species in one situation. Just a nitpick, though.

>>31532880
Played both RT and EoS. If I could write worth a damn, I would fanfic EoS with my own changes and headcannons. RT I don't have enough passion for to think up, but that's probably because EoS doesn't beg the question why you were in the future in the first place.
Still, I think everyone would agree that EoS should cut down on the unnecessary flashbacks.

>>31533059
Innovate and try to either be creative with the tropes, subvert them, or do something different altogether in place of veteran expectations.
Create less characters and focus on developing them. Don't abandon them. Give them a part in the story.
Try to take a break from non-Pokemon villains (because Chunsoft ain't good at it) and instead make the antagonist either an actual Pokemon or an avatar. Make them someone who has a reason to what they do besides "evulz". Justify the conflict with examples in the story. Tie those conflicts with the antagonists' actions.
Give the partner a backstory. The partner can be the straight, but should also be a little interesting.
Give the PC a little more agency. I'm not asking for story branching (though it would be nice if your earlier cutscene decisions were called back as minor changes in later cutscenes). Flex out their options of speaking. It may be an illusion of choice, but it helps with PC roleplaying a bit more, so it feels a bit more real.

bedtime bump

>>31526267
>>31526334
>>31526382
darkrai did it

Playing through Super, at the part after the starters and Archen go to the air continent for the first time. Is there any point to going to a dungeon you don't have a request for?

>>31538092
Getting EXP and items.

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Small reminder that I exist for those who are new and want to cherish their special doggo

https://archiveofourown.org/works/7306693
https://archiveofourown.org/series/547813

>Emolga brings up the idea of drawing straws
He's going to rig the game so that he loses, isn't he

>>31539263
Yes

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>>31539263
>tfw GtI made me like Emolga

best pikaclone

>>31533059
Make PC fourth of seven children of High King of Pokepolis.
Send him/her together with childhood friend, old mentor, and ragtag group of misfits to colonize faraway archipelago, full or madmons and retards, because succession wars suck balls deep and Papa is well aware of that.
Make PC actually need to expand his main hub and create side settlements to let some enterprises even appear.
Then Tapu Koko decides to check out what the hell is going over, is mistaken for deity, and since he's somewhat prideful he takes it for good coin.
Tapu council tries to also turn smol colony into dumb as stump herd, but Koko vetoes it.
Then PC has to either conquer or satisfy other Tapus. Then ancient portal is found, and UBs breach the barrier to conquer all of this world. Then after long skirmish, where PC needs to convince two Nebbys to evolve and kick asses a foothold in Uberspace is gained. Then old king kicks the bucket and succession war actually starts because eldest heir meant to be new king was a hippie and decided to skedaddle away to paint his daubs in peace.
After either explaining others that war is bad or BTFOing them from here to eternity PC gets to build all those ruins that will be sacked and plundered during all previous games plots.
THE END

I want Ampharos to sit on my face

Reminder that this is the best dungeon theme in the entire series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgTgGLV8CMI

Guess after composing this masterpiece they were so tired they forgot to give it a proper name.

>>31539974
or use it in the game, for that matter

>>31540030
Nah, its just very rare. I think it popped once or twice during a run of ZIC. It's random, really.

>>31540037
Huh, that's pretty cool.

>>31520651
I recently got Gates and SMD. Played Blue and Darkness, but skipped Sky. Should I skip Gates? I keep hearing shit about it.

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>>31540246
>but skipped Sky

Fix that immediately.

>>31540246
You may as well play Gates. It has a lot of things that weren't in others.

Also, go play Sky and do a custom starter run

>>31540278
>>31540285

I dont have it, and dont want to emulate it :X Might be getting a flashcart soon though

>>31540295
Play Sky whenever you have the chance, you'll be in for a hell of a ride.

>>31540246
Don't skip any of the games, people like to shit on gates because of it's flawed gameplay and slow ass text, but the story is still worth your time.

>>31539312
>lying
Either way, the outcome's pretty much the same

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>at Mt. Travail
>stepped into least 5 Grimer Traps after 16 floors
>not a single Apple found

>>31538133
But every dungeon seems to have the same items, at least so far. Is it best to only go to dungeons for expeditions?

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>>31539384
>the first thing he does when he gets a Frism is mess with his friends
This guy just keeps getting better and better

>>31542891
That was one of the best parts in GtI

The Setup.exe Rom editor isnt downloading anything for me; is there any other way to change my starters without it in Desmume?

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>that darkrai ending

EoS just won't stop giving me feels

>>31543231
Try another version of Sky Editor like this >>31393848.
Is the dude who runs the mega still around?

>>31544067
>Is the dude who runs the mega still around?

Yo, what's up? You want me to replace the SkyEditor with the new one?

>>31544135
>>31544067
It looks like both my version and the link seem to be the same version entirely. Are you guys sure you're using the right EoS option? One of them's for editing an already existing save, the other one's for starter modification

>>31542891
>>31542991
GTI is my favorite PMD because how good the story is, everyone gets good amount of development, they even made me care for Virizion, a member of the most forgettable legendary trio in pokemon

>>31520651
>enter wondermail code from OP's pic
>it's a challenge from Mewtwo
N-nani?!

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>>31544321
GET READY

>>31544474
>2 hit KO'd Mewtwo
2ez
I didn't recruit it though

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Thoughts?

>>31545713
With their outrageous goal to conquer the world and dumb team name it's hard to take them seriously. Gengar on his own is alright though, probably because he got the most development out of the three.

>>31545713
What exactly are the implications of him being the human of legend? He's the one who caused the disasters, right?

>>31532880
Samefag here, I just finished the main game. Even though I knew what was coming I still got a feels trip. Requesting hugs (in the least autistic way possible)

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>>31546409
That's just how it goes, worse when you have no idea what's coming. Here's one.

>>31546408
Its said in the game his birth only marked when the disasters would start so no.

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>>31546409
You'll let me hug you autistically and you're going to like it.

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First warp on the first floor.

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what did they mean by this?

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>>31547925
>reading youtube comments
>sharing youtube comments

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...Ooops.

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I forgot about the sandstorm.

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And this was on the last floor of the mission.

>>31545713
They're kind of lame, to be honest. At least Gengar is slightly more threatening than the entirety of, say, Team Skull.
Speaking of which, did they die? They never did show up again after Brine Cave, right?

>>31548070
Don't they show up in Super?

>>31548078
Do they? I don't really remember much of that one, since it was sort of norijg in comparison to EoS or Blue Rescue Team.

>>31548112
*boring
How the hell did I mess that word up so badly..?

>>31547925
Anon, the next time you find yourself up open the snipping tool intending to cap a youtube comment or tweet or forum post to put on 4chan, reconsider how you're living your life.

>>31548078
I'm pretty sure they don't. The Gengar mission was delivering a letter to Banette. Plus, I feel like they'd make Medicham connect to the rest of Team Charm since Explorers has more of a pull than Rescue Team.

>>31548259
He was talking about Team Skull, and they do show up. But then again it is questionable how canon the cameos are with stuff like Grovyle/Celebi appearing and Hydreigon asking if you remember him

>>31548078
Skuntank is in one of the towns I think.

>>31548351
I went apeshit with the hydreigon reference.

Next final boss is a human

>>31548823
>human uses gun
>-100HP

Does Super have a way to soft reset?

>>31548845
L+R+Start

Like any other 3ds game really.

>>31548839
>Human uses pokeball
>Game Over

>>31548872
You're confusing that with the DS. On the 3DS the developers have to add it manually, and as far as I know only the main Pokémon games have that now.

Every time I think I've seen all the emeras, new ones keep popping up.

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Smiles go for miles!

>>31530965
There's some weird feature that lets you generate a dungeon from pointing the camera at a circle. If you could screenshot this game, you could post anything on the camera screen to Miiverse.
Blocking the whole game is just a lazy way to solve that issue.

>>31548078
I think a lot of things show up in Super. I'm not sure if there are any contradictions that occur.

>>31548259
In the comic PMD: Victory Fire, Medicham from Team Charm is actually a former member of Team Meanies, ergo some person. Gengar from RT is also in that comic as a major character.

>>31548351
Grovyle, Celebi, and Dusknoir survived erasure thanks to a cosmic asspull implied to be the doing of Arceus. Since time doesn't flow in the Dark Future, technically no time has passed as far as the timey-wimey ball is concerned, so the deciding point of the Time Crisis could've happened before you set foot on the Grass Continent for all we know.

>>31551238
They could have made it so that when using that feature you can't go to the home menu. But I guess they didn't know about Miiverse yet when GtI was released.

>>31548823
>final boss is human
>it's your evil shadowy clone or some dumb shit, and it has stolen and corrupted your form
>you become unmistakably livid on so many levels due to stolen body and plot retardation

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>>31548839
>mfw Bulletproof

>>31548823
>>31548839
>implying any human could realistically survive in environment where laws of physics are weird and half the principles doesn't matter
>including biological electric generator ever going above few volts
>or tiny fish spewing out absurd amounts of water just because
>or sentient rock somehow speeding up few thousands of cubic kilometres of air to make artificial sandstorm

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>>31554303
>or a zeppelin of death that can explode twice and be fine

>>31554303
>or a gang about to rape anybody who shows up at quadruple speed and abusing of kinky methods like sending off intense energy to discharge the victim(s)

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>>31555316
>or a very pissed off chameleon that just got robbed and needs to take it out on something

>>31555326
>or some big fat pink blob that delivers death to any daring fool just by screaming "YOM... TAH!" as a blinding light embraces you whole

Speaking of which, does Yomtah mean anything in moonrunes or is it just some onomatopoeia?

>>31555778
Are you sure the Yooom...tah! thing isn't just in the English translation? I think that's the case.

>>31554303
>>31555316
>>31555326
>>31555421
Human charisma could be used to create a cult of fanatics who will give their life to him or her. Charisma can only go so far, so intelligence could help as well. Even if the human is dumb, he or she probably knows some things that can be useful, such as math, science, rhetoric, etc. In the end, though, it depends on where you start, which from there luck factors in.

>>31554352
>it's rescue team remake
>after shitton of pokemon and "final" bosses here is the true final challenge
>it's arceus that transforms into drifloon complete forme

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>>31539860
>g7 PMD expanding on Pokemon Paradise

>even that Swellow and Wurmple duo gets some closure after the Darkrai arc

I love this game. Even NPCs you'd normally not care about receive some attention.

>>31555979
Still, luck carries you only to the moment when somebody decides to Rock Edge you because revolt or something.
Of course animu and manga people seem to be quite indifferent to pokemon related trauma, if you consider how much damage it does versus how much devastating it should be.
Anyway, Pokemon world is full of bullshit made up for sake of game programming and shit.

>Future Sight
>Gives the Pokemon that uses this move the Set Damage status, which makes all damage inflicted by the user remain at a certain amount

Is this any good or is it always set at a low value?

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>>31556941
>is this any good

>>31557066
what did he mean by this

>>31556941
It's about 30 I think. Not worth using at all.

>GtI's final boss fainted after only four hits
WHAT

>>31558386
Yeah, it's really, really easy

>>31558386
also, its HPs don't reset when you get defeated

>>31559429
Super really did improved the final boss battle by making it have danger zones that could kill you if you didn't move out of them, it was pretty fun though i wished i had brought my pound wands for that fight.

But sadly that's the only thing super improved over GTI final boss, as an antagonist it sucks dicks, sounds edgy and stupid

>>31559502
>fail to get out of the zones one time, who cares I got revive seeds
>spikes fly through Pikachu 3-4 times
>The move missed Pikachu!

>>31559429
It's a real shame after all that buildup. Fighting it all on your own was a good twist on the final boss. The second stage could've been executed a little bit better, though. Most 1v1 PMD fights usually boil down to standing around and spamming your strongest moves.

>>31559667
and abusing seeds and items

Don't die on me now.

>>31559440
Seriously? That's gen6 tier of piss easy.

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I have come to rescue /pmdg/

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I WAS NOT PREPARED

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>>31563484

>>31563484
FUCK, I realized I forgot to talk to the people at the village between the partner leaving and him coming back to see what they had to say.

Why the fuck is Moltres so hard to recruit? I've got its island, and the other two birds, and it only takes three hits to die, and I'm fighting alone, but it just won't recruit. Is it just the chances being out of my favor, or am I doing something wrong?

>>31564341
Its base recruit rate is 30%. If you were at max level the odds would be like 60% or something

>>31559502
>>31559667

How would you guys do a boss battle?

>boss is immune to damage; has minions
>boss minions are trying to attack you from a distance (but not too far of a distance)
>each minion you defeat makes the boss more vulnerable


>boss is giant-sized and looming over a cliff
>has three appendages that are cognizant and have separate HP, moves, and maybe abilities and types
>some attacks are telegraphed thanks to delay, but are powerful if they connect


>boss arena has hazards, barriers, and other features that make the fight more dangerous while giving you a way to avoid the boss's attacks and an alternate strategy.

>>31564961
This basically, just make the boss have phases

>Phase 1 is a fight against many enemies with low HP and 2 mega pokemon that are tanky
>Phase 2 is trying to destroy the boss ''shield generators'' while dodging danger zones and small adds
>Phase 3 is just a battle against the boss and more small adds.

>>31565295

Since Chunsoft seems to want to make non-Pokemon final bosses, I think that maybe there could be a compromise by instead having a legendary pokemon amped up in some way, such as becoming supersized, altered in form, or possessing cognizant things such as shadowy hands.

There could also be special battles where there is a special objective that doesn't involve defeating enemies.

>>31566367
Would TPCi allow that though?

>>31566367
>legendary
Shitmon or bust. Legendaries being one of a kind they have to be recruitable so they can't get what's coming to them in the end. The way they dealt with Darkrai was nothing short of infuriating.

But yeah they could do something like what you said. It's not a bad idea, especially the alternate objective part.

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They sure do it for free here

>>31568144
I wish I didn't check the catalog.

>>31564341
Zapdos was a cunt for me, I feel you bro.

>>31556941
>future sight sets you damage to ~35-40 (don't remember what)
>doom desire does the same but has less PP
chunsoft made some quesstionable decisions back in the day

>>31559502
>danger zones that could kill you if you didn't move out of them

Loved it, I actually had to change my partner's tactics every time it happened in order to get them to avoid it
>never got hit once

>/vp/ has only 2 pages now
who the fuck raided us

>>31568916
supposedly /b/ and /v/ with yugioh and gay porn

>>31568929
>yugioh
>with ponies

>>31568916
Some autist that wants /vp/ to be a red board.

>>31567022
Hoopa could just summon another legendary if any of them died for real, as messed up as that could be.

>>31567022
>The way they dealt with Darkrai was nothing short of infuriating.
You mean essentially dead, forced to wander the world without remembering his past life, wondering why everybody hates him?

>>31567022
>wanting to recruit him after all that happened
>implying he'd just bow down and say "yes please l-let's go explore together"

>>31569247
>"oh shit you killed that darkrai?"
>"no problem i'll just pull another out of alternate timeline"
nerf when

>>31570283
Super did it pretty well. Sometimes when you pull them out they attack you.

>>31568916
>>31568929
And, uhm, what was the reason behind it? And how did we survive?

>>31568958
oooh

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I fucked up and lost a bunch of items in sky in the future where i just got celebi and grovyle am i fucked?

>>31570850
You're only fucked if you give up.

>>31570867
you mean stop playing the game or in-game give up?

>>31570908
When you stop playing. You could also just reset when you wipe and not lose anything.

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>>31570678
>And how did we survive?
Ally Reviver

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>>31532121
>finding Gilded Hall for the first time

>>31566496
Maybe? Primal Dialga was already pushing it.

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Thoughts on this special episode?

>>31575818
Has remastered Magma Cavern music/10.

Also ship tease, we all like that, don't we...?

>>31575818
I liked it the least, but only because the others were really good in comparison. Still a decent episode.

>>31575818
I always forget it exists

>>31575818
I liked it, gave some development to Sunflora and Loudred. I think it's just overshadowed by the other Special Episodes because they're pretty good.

Who is the worst member of Wigglytuff's guild and why is it Corphish?

>>31578725
That's not Croagunk

>>31578725
>not Croagunk

>>31578725
Hey hey, that's rude of you to say, hey hey!

>>31578788
>>31578795
Why Croagunk? I don't remember much of her personality, other than "muh cauldron"

>>31578788
>>31578795
He barely even counts and you know it, he's just a shopkeeper that set up shop inside the guild

>>31578725
Because there's no reason for him to exist.

>>31578901
That's the point, he does fuck all for the guild and is rarely useful as a shop as its RNG
>>>31578908
He eats the guilds food and goes on exploration with them and does fuck all in between besides his cauldron which wasn't in use when you first show up

>>31578901
And that's because that's the entirety of their character, coupled with one of the most annoying catchphrases in the game.

>>31578908
Anyone who shows up to those morning meetings counts as a main guild member.

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Meh-he-heh! Welcome to the Croagunk Swap Shop. Want to swap? I'll cost ya 150 coins.

>>31578976
>he does fuck all for the guild
What has Corphish done?

>>31579062
Actual jobs to pay for guild's expenses

>>31579062
He showed up to help solve the riddle of Groudon's heart.

>>31578976
Croagunk's shop was really useful. I think I got items more often from the swap shop than Kecleon's.

>>31579129
I'm pretty sure the protag found that out anyways. Besides, Croagunk lets you turn a weakness into healing.

>>31579052
You better not offer me another fucking Unown item

>>31579095
Fair. Shame everyone's rank except for the MC's is stuck, it'd be nice to see exactly how much each member did because I'm not convinced anyone other than the MC and partner do anything.

>>31579129
I don't remember him ever being with the MC in that section. Didn't the Scream solve the puzzle for them anyway?

>>31579255
Oh, right. He only spotted the statue, then the partner and MC took care of the rest.

>>31579204
Meh-heh-heh! Here's what I have.

>[long list of the same 2S items that require specific rare items here that will never leave the store unless you purchase them]
>Unown item
>Three 3S items that aren't useful to your party
>One that fits but is 1S only

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>It's a Monster House!

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>>31580653
>It's a Monster House!
>mfw I have a Petrify Orb at the ready
You do carry one Petrify Orb and one Slumber Orb at all times, don't you?

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>>31580653
>>31580690
>Gorebyss used Agility!
>Kingdra's at can't go any faster!
>Kingdra's at quadruple speed!
>Clamperl's at quadruple speed!
>Chinchou's at quadruple speed!
>Clamperl's at quadruple speed!
>Kingdra used Smokescreen!

>>31580690
No Spurn Orbs? For shame.

>>31580757
I prefer those orbs because they let me pick off the Pokémon one by one for free EXP in addition to letting me avoid the problem even if I have to take out a few in the process. There's also the possibility with Spurn Orbs that the floor isn't actually more than five or so rooms and they just converge on your location again.

Do custom starters work with Gates?

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>>31580653
>>31580753
>Pokemon used Whirlwind!
>thrown diagonally into a corner
>stuck and have to restart

>>31580843
It's possible, but you can only pick from the tiny catalog of Pokemon available.
the ability to hack in models, animations, and moves from Super when

What's SkyEditor? Can someone link a tutorial?

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>>31580900
NEVER EVER

>>31580690
>Get teleported to the middle of the room
>It's a Monster House!
>Thank god i still have these 2 sleep orbs
>X uses Uproar
>Mfw

>>31578725
Chatot because he has a Bitch Wand up his cloaca and denied me my daily sustenance because he believed some bullshit from some shady dudes who stole my friend's cheap Mexican souvenir.

I have a soft spot for Corpfish because I like to imagine he has Krusty the Clown's voice. Also, a fanfic I read about Explorers made me like him more, even though it's not canon.

>>31581081
To be fair Chatot has to run the guild and keep Wigglytuff from fucking up everything, but making us go without food was a bullshit move

>>31581081
>Chatot because he has a Bitch Wand up his cloaca
Fuck, i hate that fucking bird, having to go through it's bullshit was fucking annoying

>>31581081
Chatot is the best stfu

>>31580970
A save editor for the DS games with some ROM-editing functionality. You can use it to get custom starters and add portraits to Sky.
https://github.com/evandixon/Sky-Editor/wiki/Beta-2

>>31581149
ty anon

>>31580843
Yep. You follow the same guide the pastebin links for Super. If you want I can do it for you.

>>31581081
>fanfic making corpfish not a shit
I'll bite, link?

>>31581304
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6421734/1/Pokemon-The-Unknown-Continuum

TVTropes considers it not shit. I thought it was ok, but I don't trust my tastes. It's pretty much Explorers with some lore expansion and some minor changes.
The main character was made as a human who isn't cool with his predicament, has a moral code he strongly follows, and is somewhat divisive due to his dickish nature, but the author didn't want to make him boring. The partner is a foil to the human and acts as the straight in the story who is more pragmatic and level-headed than the human. He also is there to call out the human when he acts like a dick.
By the way there is no shipping in this story, so if that isn't your thing, don't worry.

Can I give up during stage 2 dark matter SMD and have it save my progress or will it cutscene hell me again?

>>31582154
Cutscene hell, my nigga.

>>31582384
Fuuu

>>31582395
If you have a surplus of reviver seeds I suggest taking them all just so you don't have to watch that cutscene anymore.

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>tfw no special episodes in Super

>>31582953
>no DLC at all
>ever

>>31582384
>>31582636
Thanks anons. That worked perfectly.

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>>31581081
>implying Chatot isnt the real talent of the guild

He can do ZIS, can you?

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>The Reviver Seed became sticky and unusable!

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>>31585237
>The Looplet became sticky and unusable

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>>31585237
>Several food items went bad!

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i had a good run

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>>31585401
>in marine resort

>>31585417
>not having All Terrain Hiker or Super Mobile at that level

your fault

>>31579052
>That extra chin
Good lord.

>>31585434
i thought they made your belly decrease with every step

also i'm not going to spend 10 hours finding gummis

>>31585445
>i thought they made your belly decrease with every step
Just the same as regular walking. It's only when you bust through walls when you get more hunger.

>also i'm not going to spend 10 hours finding gummis
had you saved all the gummis you found on your adventure(or eaten them) you would have been more than enough to get Super Mobile.

>>31585463
>saved all the gummis
ridiculous

>or eaten them
i do this but i'm pretty sure i've used like 5 different pokemon at this point so they all have mid tier iq. i think i'm super over levelled because i evolved a dragonite and a salamence using this zangoose

i don't remember it was a few months ago

>>31585463
>It's only when you bust through walls when you get more hunger.
False, it's only when you walk through the walls. Breaking them doesn't make you hungry

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>absolutely love rescue team
>explorers was amazing too
>super felt like total dogshit
why is it so... trash? emeras are just an annoyance, recruiting is gone, I haven't managed to get far in the story since it feels like it never progresses
the final straw was when I connected to a fucking level 50 something salamence, I'm almost at the very beginning of the game and now that they just put a level 50 motherfucker right in my hands it just feels like I've lost all reason to play at all, there's nothing to achieve in this game and even going through dungeons in itself has become lame
what a disappointment, why would they ruin a great game series like this

>>31585790
Emeras are great fuck you, everyone agrees the story is SUPER shit, Take that Salamance on a mission today and see what happens tomorrow, and if you think Super ruined the series than you must have skipped GTI.

>>31585853
>if you think Super ruined the series than you must have skipped GTI.
yes
>Emeras are great fuck you
???????????????????????????????
literally why?
massive fucking annoyance and total waste of time, they have no reason to be in the game

>>31585853
oh by the way, I'm aware that the salamence won't be usable for a while, but not like that matters since they also shoved a fucking dragonite into my pockets as well, among other fully evos
combat will never be difficult in this shit game

>>31585853
>if you think Super ruined the series than you must have skipped GTI.
What's so bad about GTI?
my only problem while playing it was that i couldn't make the text speed faster and there was little post game content, but other than that it was fun and the story was really good

Personally i feel like Emeras are a mixed bag, they might work well when mixed with IQ skills. Have a pokemon you just recruited and want to use, but you dont want to grind IQ? Emeras could be there to help until you get something more reliable.

>>31585790
Why are you complaining about the game when you admit you're at the beginning?

Emeras reward you for thorough dungeon exploration, they're not bad at all. Don't get too excited about being given strong 'mon at the beginning of the game, it's not nearly as helpful as you're thinking. The story does drag on in the beginning though, and that's the biggest complaint anyone seems to have about the game.

>>31585931
Lack of pokemon, lack of starter variety, lack of post-game, and slow text speed are the major flaws in GTI. It seems like they probably ran out of time or budget and had to launch the game while it wasn't really complete. The story and music are so great that it could have been the best in the series if they hadn't rushed it and took some time to create post-game content while also developing more 3d models.

>>31586074
>Why are you complaining about the game when you admit you're at the beginning?
I invested quite a few hours into it and it failed to be fun?
Half the fun of PMD games is finding, recruiting, and making your pokemon stronger
they took all of that away and cluttered it with other useless functions, coupled with a terrible story, it really is absolutely fucking horrendous

>>31586198
If you liked the series enough buy Super, just power through. It's a good game if you can muster a little patience for the slow start.

>>31586198
While I agree that i like the old method better, you should still try to see it through to the end

Am I under-leveled at 36 at chap 17 in sky?

>>31587624
What point is that at again?

>>31586074
>It seems like they probably ran out of time or budget and had to launch the game while it wasn't really complete
Not really, it's more of a choice in the part of the game designers to have only gen 5 pokemon like BW did. Though they probably only did gen V because it's a whole 150+ pokemon pokedex that doesn't need other gens to be completed and because doing 700+ models all at once would have taken too much time and effort for a spin-off
Also the game has a lot of DLC, so they actually took more time to add things, just they didn't add the things that people would have wished such as extra chapters.

>>31588084
You're looking for the hidden lands

>>31585790
Emeras are great.
I get the story has problems, but I still like it for what it is. If you're one of the edgy fags who want the epic let's save the world plot, you'll be happy if you keep playing. The SoL part is better anyway.
You can rarely use the Salamence and even then you're not forced to use it. Also, Super actually tried to make dungeons harder.

>>31585900
They have interesting or usual effects and if you don't want to use them with a looplet you're free to do so, using them to temporarily increase your stats or completely ignore them.

>>31585911
Why do you feel forced to use them? You aren't.

>>31588562
>Not really, it's more of a choice in the part of the game designers to have only gen 5 pokemon like BW did.
No, it isn't. If it was you'd have ALL of the gen 5 Pokémon in the main game and then all of the others in the postgame. Gates to Infinity has neither.

>Also the game has a lot of DLC, so they actually took more time to add things, just they didn't add the things that people would have wished such as extra chapters.
The fact that they remade music from Sky and it went unused makes it look like even the DLCs are incomplete.

>doing 700+ models all at once would have taken too much time
Exactly. I don't completely agree with the "they ran out of time" thing, but they definitely didn't have enough time. I think hey probably figured that out early in development, and they didn't put effort in trying to hide it.

>>31589785
Every single argument you have against the additions to the game I dislike is just "don't use it", and in case you haven't noticed, I said I quit the game altogether so I guess I heeded your advice?
They took away all the fun and all the sense of reward out of the game and you're now left with just a shell of what it used to be, you have fun with that on your own

>>31589785
But anyways, i don't think or feel that the game is incompleted, it's just not as packed as we would wish it was.

>>31590349
That doesn't really make any sense to me. We are talking about things they added here. The only thing they removed is the old recruitment system, which is something I can understand, but I don't see how Emeras would be a problem to you.

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>tfw trying to recruit Kecleon

>>31590814
No fun, lacking story, no sense of accomplishment, and the only new additions being annoying isn't hard to get behind, it was thoroughly explained
Only someone who played super as their first PMD could enjoy it

>>31591285
>No fun
You really have to explain this one. So far from what you've said it seems your idea of "fun" is getting a level 8 Pokémon and stopping to do nothing but grinding.

>no sense of accomplishment
Same as above?

>lacking story
The beginning of Explorers is "worse" in this regard though. I like the slice of life stuff, but as I said, if you want the "let's save the world" plot that will come later on. It feels like a completely separated story in Super apart from like 2 characters, which might be a strong point for you if you hate the first part that much.

>Only someone who played super as their first PMD could enjoy it
Yeah, that's wrong.

Next game should just be a series of three or four 5-hour special episodes that maybe intersect a couple times. Then any surviving characters could converge during the finale.

The best story content in the series was a story that lasted maybe two hours.

>>31591285
>Only someone who played super as their first PMD could enjoy it
My first was Blue RT and Super is my favorite. Played the DS games when I was a preteen too so even nostalgia isn't holding me back. And don't complain about hating the "just don't use it" comeback when anyone who criticizes Explorers is deemed a shitposter and their opinion is discarded. Deflection exists among all fanboys, anything to keep their bubble intact. The only people who don't act like this are people who have RT as their favorite but maybe that's because they aren't vocal enough.

There's also such a thing as disliking something despite its flaws. People who have played and enjoyed Gates know about that. There's nothing wrong with thinking the good of something outweighs the bad. A game is more than the sum of its parts.

>>31591527
liking* something despite its flaws

ree what is this element of randomness in a roguelike why can't i just grind and steamroll with overpowered iq abilities

>>31592210
Cause you'd turn the game into an 8 hour cakewalk

>>31591527
>The only people who don't act like this are people who have RT as their favorite but maybe that's because they aren't vocal enough.
I personally like people who have RT as their favourite better than the ones who have Sky as their favourite, and it's sad how underrated RT is compared to Sky. Its main problems are menus. Even if you try to complain about Friend Areas, ultimately your complaint will be nothing more than menus (them costing a lot is actually a good thing, it gave money a purpose, which is something we don't have in the more recent games). It also had a better postgame (which is what makes up most of the games) if you don't care about having a constant, linear plot too much (which might actually not be the best thing as far as videogames are concerned). The way they made Pokémon harder to recruit wouldn't be that bad either, if it wasn't for the way the menus work.
I personally consider RT to be about as good as Sky (and Super, but that's a different story). Sure, Sky made everything more comfortable to do, but it also lacks a few thing.

>>31592407
You're right about menus in RT.

I recently completed BRT and did most of the postgame ('cause fuck recruiting mew, did 4 full 99F Buried Relic runs and the little shit just wouldn't appear), and went on to play Sky next.

My first reaction was along the lines of "OH MY GOD WHY COULDN'T YOU OPEN YOUR DAMN BAG BY PRESSING B IN RT REEEE"

It's such a minor yet important and comfy addition, and that's just one. Others like pressing L+R to select all items when you want to sell or deposit, not having to wait like 3 full seconds on the floor transition screen, you can just press A to skip it, etc...

Also having more than 20 slots on your bag. I couldn't tell you how many times I raged in RT because of the limited bag space.

>>31592407
>>31592492
RT is really only held back by quality of life choices that make combat, mission prep, and inventory management tedious where they should be quick and streamlined. The fact that these issues have been addressed in later installments makes it harder to go back and appreciate the game.

>>31592492
>>31592529
They really changed a lot of them. Some of the worst things are not being able to choose which Pokémon you want to give food to, the moves cursor going back to the first option every time you enter it, not being able to send Pokémon you just recruited to their area.
GtI is also a huge improvement in that area as well. Pressing L to choose your move is great. Too bad Super took away some things, like pressing Y to skip animations, L+R to throw the selected item and the normal menu to choose your moves, which I think should have been kept, as at least in my experience the L and R buttons tend to break easily. The menu layout in Super is inferior to how it was done in GtI too, as it's a little messy. Still, those are minor problems, and they're almost irrelevant if you compare them to RT.

>>31587365
nice

Playing Super and the Poliwrath brothers are kicking my ass.
Doesnt help that my partner is chimchar while im a totodile.
Any tips?

>>31593999
Stop dying.

>>31593999
Boss battles were made for you to spam alliances. Also for some reason Boss fights don't have the limits that older games had so you can use any item to stun them. Orbs, wands, anything.

>>31593999
Bring wands and orbs. Any blast seeds you want to use will take out a single one instantly.
Explore the dungeon more thoroughly to get emeras.

>>31594116
>Also for some reason Boss fights don't have the limits that older games had so you can use any item to stun them. Orbs, wands, anything.

Wait, for real? But that's piss easy then.

>>31594163
You don't really gain any noticeable stat growth without vitamins so it's an interesting trade off.

>>31594116
I remember not being able to during a later fight, just gave me the "mysterious force blocks this" or "for some reason it didn't work" or whatever the message was. Maybe only certain Orbs work? Or I'm remembering wrong. Not like I can test it without erasing my save file.

>>31594133
Ive spammed the slumber n petrify wands/orbs but the Poliwraths break out the next turn.
Which ones do you recommend.
I havent used blast seeds because they make it rain so the damage is lessen.

>>31593999
Can you use Hawlucha's Slam School yet? Maybe you can get better moves.

>>31594282
Just use JKSM

>>31593999
Orbs, wands, and alliances. That's also the answer to pretty much every potentially difficult fight

>>31593999
>git gud
>improve your technique
>heighten your abilities
>push your frontiers

I'm considering playing Sky again for the first time in a while, what Starter/Partner combo should I go with?

>>31594832
Custom starters!
If you're not emulating, how about Bulbasaur+Munchlax?

>>31594980
i'd like to emulate but i'm stuck on a shitty old PC until the end of the month, Bulbasaur+Munchlax sounds like fun tho, I might try it out.

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New thread?

>>31595330
>page 5

>>31595480
>page 9
Now?

>>31596608
yeah now it's fine

Aaaas

>>31593999
Truant wand will allow you to kill anything.