We dreamed of creating the world's strongest Pokemon

nigger gets outsped by literally everything

>>31512492
Choice Scarf

>>31512497
anything else that is also using choice scarf

>>31512497
>82 base speed scarfed

>>31512497
>>31512478
Are you serious? Of course fissure is not an egg move and of course we can't use a kanto born machamp online.

>>31512506
Not how it works retard

>>31512506
Scarf Machamp outspeeds everything up to base 107. So if you're slower than that you're dead.

>>31512557
So Machamp has just eliminate all pokemon slower than 107 speed by existing
He has also eliminated all pokemon that end up standing in front of it for more than 1 turn with nothing in between

What are flying types
inb4 smack down
enjoy being locked to 50 bp move
also skarmory

>>31512577
Also there's a retarded amount of Pokemon in OU either over base 107 speed or scarfed with over 55 speed

>>31512577
All Pokemon that aren't Flying, has Levitate or Surdy, or is holding a Scarf or Focus Stash.

>>31512592
Thanks for telling us all what we're now forced to used despite everyone knowing

>>31512478
Do you guys think that it'll work well with Mat Block Greninja?

what is tapu koko

>>31512592
>what is stone edge

>What is-
Lemme stop you right there
Any counter to Machamp is now something everyone is forced to use to keep above water

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>>31512478

>>31512654
tapu koko is already everywhere

>>31512654
It doesn't change all that much since they're typically OU anyway.

>>31512478
>Pidgey used Gust!

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We dreamed of creating the world's strongest Pokemon
and we succeeded

MFW All of my karenmons lost all hope

M E G A M E T A G R O S S

U S E D

Z E N H E A D B U T T

If you packed no Ground immunity, you were asking to eat shit anyway. It's banned in OU to begin with, but it would still be a meh mon there. Scarf isn't even that fast now.

>>31512654
Do you know what counters Machamp? Keko and Lel, Genies, ZardxNInja and Megagross. All of which the main OU mons everyone uses.
You aren't "forced" any more than you previously were.

>>31512724
And what if I dont like any of those pokemon? Why do I have to be forced to fend off Machamp?

>>31512731
>And what if I don't like any of those pokemon?
Then you probably aren't playing Smogon OU.

>Scarf is still fucking slow
>Everyone has a flying mon anyway
It would suck in OU
>b-but muh sash!
They call him Mischievous Malachite.

>>31512738
How the fuck am I playing smogon OU if Machamp has Fissure

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Leave no guard Machamp to us.

>>31512731
Then you're losing battles either way, Machamp isn't going to matter much.

>>31512731
>i dont like any of these pokemon
then you also dont like winning

>People trying to justify the fact that all pokemon slower than Machamp have been shut out of the game

>>31512731
You are probably used to losing most matches already so why complain now?

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What's that move that protects both Pokemon in a team?

I remember Greninja getting it but idk what it's called. Would it help out Machamp? I mean sure there's a flyer on every team but wouldn't the goal of NG Fissure Machamp be to have him take out as many enemies as possible before going down himself?

>>31512775
>all pokemon slower than Machamp
That's not a lot of pokemon.

>>31512775
I play Smog formats baby, I don't give a FUCK.
And pretty much everything is faster than Machamp, or is on a TR team, where they become faster than Machamp.

>>31512731
You were already a shitter so losing to Machamp isn't any different.

>>31512790
The vast majority of pokemon period are slower than machamp

>>31512844
>55 speed
The vast majority of pokemon including NFEs are faster than Machamp

>Gastro Acid

mold breaker?

>>31512789
Mat Block.

>>31513048
thanks

>>31512996
I don't think Mold Breaker will work in this case.

Can't fucking wait to stomp with my Yellow Machamp. :)

>>31513093
Shiny Machamp is green you fucking retard, and you can't move Fissure onto existing Machamps

>>31512478
>no gaurd doesnt fix accuracy of OHKO moves
>machamp cucked again by GF
Ruthless

>>31513110
My Machamp is from Yellow you stupid fucking idiot.

>>31513110
>machamp from pokemon yellow vc
Think first

>>31513128
There are only 2 genders you fucking idiot.

Has bank been released?

>>31513153
yes

>>31513153
No people are currently injecting and trading unavailable mons because the restriction has been lifted so it's coming soon.

>>31513147
There's isn't any gender for Pokemon in R/B/G/Y though

>>31512506
>>31512492
>>31512497
>>31512505
>>31512557
>>31512577
>>31512592
>not using low sweep

>>31513198
>>31513164
Thanks, and fuck that guy.

Arent OHKO moves acc locked at 30% no matter what? Why would No Guard work if Lock On doesn't?

>>31513582
Their accuracy can't be modified (hone claws, sand attack, etc.), but if it skips the accuracy check all together (mind reader, lock-on, no guard), it still hits.

>>31513646
Lock-On --> Sheer Cold works??

>this whole thread is arguing about OHKO moves which are banned

>>31513701
OHKO moves are still allowed in the actual games though right?

>>31513110
hehuheuhehuhehehuhe
you killed me, son

>>31512577
not an actual argument. you're implying that whatever outspeeds it will automatically kill it and stop it from getting a Fissure out, which is completely retarded.

>>31513675
I think so.

>>31513759
Shut up. I made no argument about things Machamp can survive, I made a point about things that dont survive against Machamp

Where the fuck did you get in your head that I'm even TRYING to make an argument?
Are people that used to fighting?

>>31513723
Sure. Battle Tower should be fun.

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>>31513093
>>31513128
TWO GENDERS
W
O

G
E
N
D
E
R
S

someone give machamp the mewtwo movie armour

>>31512700
>MFW All of my karenmons lost all hope
Machamp IS a karenmon wyd? This is a victory for karenfags

>>31512592
>what is no guard stone edge

>>31512724
Only the Genies and Zard are counters, idiot. You can't switch in the others on a Fissure. They're checks.

>>31516396
Everything with Sturdy is immune to Fissure. Most of those have a weakness to Machamp's STAB Fighting moves, though that still leaves
>Carbink, Crustle, Donphan, Forretress, Sawk, Shuckle, Skarmory
Focus Sash can negate one hit of Fissure.
Mimikyu might also be immune to Fissure, I'm not sure how that works.
Dragonite also seems like it could take it out most of the time.

>>31517224
>Most of those have a weakness to Machamp's STAB Fighting moves
yeah but if he's Scarfed, either he's locked on to Fissure, or he's forced to use a Fighting move until he's recalled and sent out later

>>31515633
>Machamp
>karenmon
Pick one

>>31514237
>Are people that used to fighting?
Yes, actually

>>31517421
Champ has been my nigger long enough that I can guarantee that yes it is a Karenmon.
Nobody used him for years son. Especially GutsChamp.
Except me. And my shiny green gutsy bro.

>>31517478
>shiny green
Pathetic

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>>31517421
Machamp IS a karenmon. He's falling RU this gen without the Fissure meme.

Conkeldurr outclassed him starting Gen 5. Heracross is also a contender for a team slot (and it has a mega). Buzzwole is the new toy for /fit/ memery. Newer fighting types are getting better stat spreads and abilities. Hariyama is seeing more use this gen.

No Guard Dynamic Punch has been more accessible to other pokemon. Confusion is nerfed, nerfing it's only niche.

Alakazam and Gengar got megas, Alakazam and Golem got +10 BST last gen, Golem got an Alola form.

Fairies are pushing fighting types' shit in.

Machamp isn't the worst shitmon, but he's not exactly a major player for a while now.

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>>31517528
you hating on big muscular green things, anon?

>>31517551
>No Guard Dynamic Punch has been more accessible to other pokemon.
Only Golurk tho

>>31517551
I feel your pain my bro.

>>31517665
my mistake, I meant to also state No Guard ability has been accessible to more and more pokemon

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>>31512478

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>>31518972
fuckin saved

no guard fissure Champ btfo

>>31513444
Trips of Truth. Low Sweep Machamp is new meta.

Test subject failed, stuff it back in the septic tank

>>31512695
requesting hoge sweep

>>31515475
I don't get this meme about Jimbo

>>31517551
They should at least boost his speed to 70 or even 75 base.

Being so slow is a killer for him, especially since his defenses aren't that good to begin with.

Nobody checked did they? Dumbasses

>>31512789
Wide Guard

>>31522050
Jimbo apparently said something about there being more than two genders and I guess they're picking at that since it usually triggers his crowd

>>31512478
and we succed

it don't work

>>31513675
It works.
I had a mind reader/ sheer cold/ Roost set in 3rd Gen. It was good for a laugh.

An entire thread of retards. All gen 1 transferred Pokémon have their hidden abilities, and since Fissure is NOT an egg move, No Guard Fissure is not attainable.

has anyone actually tried to take a no guard fissure machamp to battle spot to see if it gets rejected?

>>31522308
You mean did anyone alter a kanto transfermon to have an illegal combination of moves and abilities and try to grief little children? Probably.

Pidgey used Gust.

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>>31512478
B T F O
T
F
O

This thread is literally the very definition of celebrating too soon.

>>31512478
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>31512478
I have bad news for you anon...

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>>31512478
YA SPOKE TOO SOON MATE

THE CITY OF MACHAMP

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>>31512478
AH SHIT NIGGA, YOU JUST GOT OHMORIED

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>>31523735
Machamp celebration thread.

>>31512478
>anime only zygarde
>Ash winning the league
>now Fissure machamp

when will you learn

I COULD HAVE HAD IT ALL

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>>31512767
>>31512770
>>31512779
>all those shitters that cant win with mons they like

>>31523931
Anyone who thought Ash would become a pokemon master after the 3rd fucking failure is just some idiot

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>>31512478
NICE FISSURE ASSHOLE

BE SHAME IF SOMEONE

SWITCHED IN

>>31524921
>BE SHAME IF NO GUARD FISSURE DIDN'T EXIST
FTFY

>>31523735
It was already Serebii "confirmed", I don't blame OP

>>31512478
Ya blew it

I recently had a battle with an opponent who didnt seem to understand that his fissure machamp didn't have No Guard
He kept hitting fissure
I dont know how you can not understand that when you already saw the move miss

I'm going to assume he was aware and just wanted to use fissure without no guard

>>31525342
Desperate me would have done the same thing. Reminds me if when I used Metronome Machamp and it came up with Sheer Cold

>>31512478
Eviolite no guard fissure machoke is better.

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>>31512557
>mfw my bro went from 100 to 110 base speed this gen

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>>31525674
>no guard

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JESUS SUCKING CHRIST!! YOU JUST HAD TO SOIL IT GF! YOU JUST HAD TO! THINKING YOU CAN SLAP ON THE PLASTER THAT ARE FREE HAs! NO FUCKING WAY! THERE ARE NO SHITTY EXCUSES YOU BACKWARDS MONGOLOIDS! WE ALL KNOW YOU JUST COULDN'T ACCEPT SOMETHING ELSE GROWING STRONGER! ONLY "MUH BADASS DWAGONS AND MERCH SELLERS" RIGHT?!

FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!! FUCK YOU!!! FUCK YOU!!!

I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything

[Chorus:]
What have I become
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know goes away
In the end
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of thorns
Upon my liar's chair
Full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
Beneath the stains of time
The feelings disappear
You are someone else
I am still right here

[Chorus:]
What have I become
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know goes away
In the end
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt

If I could start again
A million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

In an alternate universe this wasnt jinxed

>>31522207
No, we pick on it since he's fucking retarded

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>31524124
Well then, Champ, would you like to battle with "mons you like" and win? Don't worry, I'm expecting you to not reply or just decline, because you'll get your shit kicked in by actually good Pokemon.

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>>31526141
Really, we need to stop doing this shit. It keeps fucking backfiring.

>>31526295
OP here
I'm sorry everyone
I just wanted to have pride in something for once in my life

>>31526343
You fucked up.

>>31526343
I was going to be proud of it, too. But I was trying to keep myself under wraps just in case you know, something like this happens

Machamp strikes back

>>31527888
trips confirm decent buff coming soon

Will Machamp ever recover from this severe case of BTFO?

>>31529042
Dude he hasnt gotten anything for competitive for a while. The only thing keeping Machamp relevant are adverts and promos for nips. Apparently he's a bit more appreciated there

Also fissure isnt an eggmove and as far as i know you can only get a fissure machamp with steadfast

Can someone tell me whats going on with machamp, I must be too retarded to not have figured it out already

>>31529269
All Fissure Machamps has Steadfast, not No Guard.