Who else here hates the bullshittery of the Battle Tree?

Even in regulars your opponents have a team that already completely counters you by the second battle.

>>31478997
Pure random :^)

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>Sends out Fairy type
>Opponents uses Togedamaru or Magnezone

FUCK.

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Can someone explain to me why fucking Moonblast missed?

Not really, no. I've had some good luck as well lately

>>31479093
brightpowder

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>>31479143

>Mimikyu with Bight Powder

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>>31479220
A goddamn nightmare desu.

The only time when BrightPowder fucking works but only against you
(Bumpity)

>>31478975
Have you played Emerald's Battle Frontier? That thing is even worse

>>31479458
Do tell, bud because I haven't played Emerald's BF.

>>31479404
I lost against a Minimize Blissey with Toxic, I don't know if it had Bright powder but it didn't had Leftovers nor a healing berry.

Next time I'll put Dragon Rush on Garchomp just to destroy those little shits.

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Who else here /50 in all 3/

>>31478975
Super Multi is the only one that's super shitty.

>you can only use two of your pokemon
>the AI partner controls the other two, not knowing what you're going to do
>the enemy AI acts as one, rather than as two different opponents

It's basically Super Doubles but worse in every single way.

>>31479656
Most people only beat it by lucking out with getting a Megagross Colress, don't they?

>>31479651
Me but it was fucking horrible getting past 30

>>31478975
>>31477666

Here you go, OP

>>31479740
Thanks, duly appreciated.
Gonna save this.

>>31479729
But anon, that's the most fun part!
Especially 40+

>>31479938
I can't even make it pass 10 >_>

>>31479985
>>31479740
Use this set, anon

>>31479740
What does Primarina have over Azumarill? I finished my Azumarill a little while ago and have bred some Popplio to train.

>>31480092
Because I already run Megamence, I didn't feel the need to run 2 physical attackers.
In the tree, it's a lot safer to run special sets than physical sets, thanks to added effects
Azumarill (Huge Power) is great if you have a team full of special attackers to help balance your team.

>>31478975
What makes it so bad?

>>31480308
Pokemon keeps using confuse ray, moves missing, status ailments work against you, BS RNG, etc.

>>31480276
Nice, I'll use Primarina, then. I have plenty of mons, but most of them are physical, and Primarina would have nice synergy with a lot of them.

>>31478975
>uses hypnosis on my whole team and nearly gets me
also
>uses substitute
>substitute faded
>uses substitute
>substitute faded
>uses substitute
>substitute faded
>uses recover
>takes a damage
>uses substitute
>substitute faded
>uses substitute
>substitute faded
>uses substitute
>substitute faded

anyone have that set of ninetails,gyrados and aegislash?

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>>31480458
Eh, it's been like that since Gen 2. Kinda expected at this point. If Battle Tower/Maison/Tree isn't cheating, then it isn't normal.

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>>31479651
>mfw the furthest I got was to streak 50 and red beat me

>>31479651
Hiya. Singles and doubles were a breeze. Multis was pure hell.

battle tree doesn't cheat you salty fucks

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>>31479651
Me. In Battle Maison I got to 100+ in all formats. It's not that hard once you have good teams and know what to watch out for.

>>31481028
k. Not mine
T9FG-WWWW-WWW4-YMMR

>>31481015
That sounds fucking awful I only got to 32 on singles from zen headbutt missing twice

>>31481083
I'm not even going to bother watching this since it's either bad luck or Shell Smash Kommo-o which was patched in the last update. In case you didn't know, bad luck isn't cheating.

>>31481083
Holy shit that was painful.
And at battle 10...

>>31481171
In oras my crobat got outsped and one shot by a cubone using ice beam

>>31481171
>near death Tapu koko gets outsped by a non-scarfed tauros and killed
>"hur bad luck""

>>31481345
Hold up, I'll update my 3DS to watch the video and then I tell you why you're an idiot. Battle Tree doesn't cheat and no amount of whining will change that fact.

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>Go into Battle Tree with Greninja, Toxapex, and whoever I feel like using as the third wheel
>Proceed to get btfo every turn
>Only made it to a 6 streak
Why? This is too much....

I honestly feels like i'm going to have breed for ivs and ev train my pokemon if i want to earn any bp.

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>>31481083
The Goo.dra has Lax Incense. That was some next-level bad luck but this is the reason why good Battle Tree teams run some stallmons. Running three offensive Pokemon usually gets you killed immediately when you get a bad matchup or bad luck. Also, the team is bad in general. Type: Null is crap. Why normal Salamence instead of Mega? Oh, and never ever ever under any circumstances run inaccurate moves like Hammer Arm if you want to get far. You will miss and it will cost you the match. This is basic stuff in battle facilities.

>>31481345
I don't know what this is about since it wasn't even in the video but if a Tapu Koko gets outsped by a non-Scarf Tauros then either the Tapu Koko doesn't have maximum Speed or the Tauros has a teammate that set up Tailwind.

>>31481467
Greninja and Toxapex have bad synergy as they're both Water-types. Try building a better team.


>>31481509
Well obviously. The opponents use competitive sets so you have to use them too. Using your in-game team will get you nowhere.

mfw I have to write Goo.dra to avoid spam filter

>>31481554
Who expects that kind of miss hax in regular singles?

>>31481405
As someone who has already beaten it, you're ful of shit.

shut the fuck up.

>>31481554
My Tapu DID have max speed and there was No tailwind because I was sweeping until that last mon.

The fact you are making assumptions make you looks like an ass.

>>31481572
You have to expect it.

>>31481601
Nice arguments.

>>31481619
Show me the proof or go home. I swear there are idiots like you in every single Battle Tree thread but you have nothing to back up your words. I know it's easy to blame cheating when you lose, but you should focus more on team building and less on whining. The game is programmed to work certain way and you whining will never change that. There are people who have gotten streaks of over 3000 victories without never encountering any cheating. Do you think they're just really lucky? Or maybe you're wrong and you just don't want to admit it?

>Mega Kangaskhan spamming rock slide

Time to flip coins

>>31478997

I think I made it to 8 matches even with overpowered bullshit pokemon

>building a team without taking your own counters into consideration

>>31481645
>3000 wins in battle tree
I want to see proof of this, The highest I've gotten is 70 but I basically got lazy cause of boredom. I've seen someone hit 200 on smogon. I've seen some hit barely over 100 in /btg/.

But in my battles there's no doubt there's bullshit and bad luck. You're an idiot if you don't think so, it's been like this for years now. There has been so much bullshit I haven't bothered saving it and why would I? To show some blubbering retard that's he wrong? not worth it. You want to see bullshit go to the /btg/ and watch videos, HELL there's videos of OHKO moves hitting every single time. Of course even if this is brought up the only thing you will do is bitch that "hur your team is bad and its bad luck" completely ignoring the point.

SHIT I beat super singles on my first try with my shitty in-game team completely WEAK to fire.

TL:DR Shut the fuck up

>>31481773
>I want to see proof of this
Here you go: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/

The rest of your post is literally just "fuck you shut the fuck up". You bring absolutely nothing intelligent to the table. All you do is whine without having any proof of anything, and this applies to all the people who accuse the game of cheating (which is easy to understand since the game doesn't actually cheat).

>HELL there's videos of OHKO moves hitting every single time
Are you implying this is impossible? Because it isn't. I've seen a Showderp match where the champ's Kyogre hit six Sheer Colds in a row. You think that's cheating too? Fucking Pokemon Showdown, always cheating.

The bottom line is: if you say that the game cheats and doesn't work the way it's programmed to, you give concrete proof about it. Otherwise you should stop posting. Bad luck will never be cheating no matter how much you want it to be. I'm not going to reply to you anymore because obviously you're delusional and beyond my help. I suggest you go to the Smogon's Battle Tree general to discuss this more if you want to. I hope that some veteran players or dataminers can help you understand that you're wrong.

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>>31481849
>Battle Maison
I said Battle Tree you fucking inbred.

How the hell can you talk about intelligence when you can't even read? Are you so mad you couldn't even link the proper page when it's right in front of you? And apparently the highest is 499 which isn't remotely close to "3000". But I'll ignore that and address your other "point".

-No one said anything about showderp
-No one implied nothing was impossible
-No sensible person will behave so idiotic because of someone feels they've been cheated

You're the type of fucktard that goes on these threads and instead of giving constructive criticism on blatantly obvious feature of the game, just bitches and whines and calls others "idiots" because "muh smogon" and EVEN if proof was shown you would still bitch.

I'll say it again.
Shut the fuck up.

>>31479651
I got 50 on Singles/Doubles but not Multi.
I wish you can do it with an Anon

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>>31481554
>>31481645
>>31481773
>>31481849
>>31482037

>>31478975
Tell me about it. I got my wishiwashi para flinched by a anticipation ferrothorn. It had left overs with ingrain, sand storm, iron head and thunder Wave. My pheromosa died to it "avoiding" hi jump kick twice inna row. Wishiwashi didn't die, but ran outta attacks. So I forfeit, since the thing could not kill me, but I'd have 30-50 more turns of wasting aqua rings and protect.

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>>31479220
>rage face

>>31481083
Now THAT blows.

Whenever /I/ give my Starmie a Lax Incense to try and take advantage of Minimize shenanigans, the opponent almost always lands their attacks. But if they use Double Team even once, I'd might as well just reset the game.

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>it's another Landorus with smack down fissure and bright powder

Oy vey

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>Oh hey look it's a gengar

>This should be pretty predicta-

>Gengar used Ice Punch

The amount of effort these fucking people do just to make sure they have a counter move against you really boggles my mind

I'm really curious how the fuck Gamefreak programed this vicious AI

>>31479651
Me, thanks to Colress's Megagross. Doubles was my favorite to clear because I had a great strategy that made it fun.

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>>31478975
>that Double Team+Toxic+Protect+Moonlight Cressesia

Why? No seriously, why? For the love of all that is holy, who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to include something as utterly evil as this?

>>31480983
The only way I could win in the Crystal Battle Tower was in the Level 10 bracket, with Arcanine, Aerodactyl, and Lapras spamming Dragon Rage.

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>>31483103
What the fuck, anon, seriously?

>>31481849
After the third time a Glaceon managed to get three Quick Claw activations and two freezes in a single match, I decided to try the same thing. Quick Claw didn't activate once in thirteen battles (that's all I could get before I lost), nor did I get any freezes. While this is technically within the realm of possibility, the probability of it happening is astronomical. If you don't think the Battle Tree abuses the RNG, you're wrong. It's that simple.

>>31483115
I literally just lost to it. Battle 116.

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>>31479458
>seven rounds of bullshit for one fucking BP

>>31483131
I'd consider a Haze Toxapex for situations like that, honestly.

>>31478975
Just look up the trainer's teams and use the battle calc. If the Battle Tree cheats (it doesn't), so can you.

http://serebii.net/sunmoon/battletree/

https://turskain.github.io/

>>31483121
I thought it's generally agreed upon that Pokémon post game (towers, subways, etc) has the odds stacked against you?

It may not be 'cheating' per se, but skewed accuracy and percentages is obvious to anyone that's attempted to climb past 20 battles in ANY game. This goes all the way back to Emerald.

>>31483146
I had a Metagross who he couldn't touch, but it would've come down to a PP stall war that I didn't want to play, so I just forfeited. Honestly the fact that Gamefreak programmed in a Pokemon whose goal is to force a situation like that is just reprehensible.

>>31483099
Should post your team for team for other anons

You know if they're going to be assholes to this degree, they might as well let us use mythics.

>>31483388
>Paraflinch AI Jirachi with Brightpowder
Fuck no.

>>31478975
Is the Tree actually much more difficult than the Maison, even in the regular battle types, or is it just salty bullshit? At the very least, I know that the Royal is a shitfest.

>>31483523
Tree uses Mega Evolutions and throws Counterpicks at you much earlier.

>>31483523
Z moves and Megas makes things more complicated

>>31483537
>>31483540
Do Z Moves and Megas show up in the normal battle styles, and if so usually after what amount of straight wins? I know that they do in the normal rank Royals.

>>31479651
I got to 50 in Singles and Dubs but only 46 in Multis

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>>31478975
>who else here hates [thing]
It's /vp/, everyone hates it.

>>31483579
As early as the 10th match vs special trainers
More often in the 30s
Very common after 40

>>31483103
And that is why you should always bring a mon with Taunt

I just made it to 50 in doubles last night. All my near losses came from Hydro Pump missing. It missed exactly 47% of the time, (I checked). I should do a t test or something for statistical significance so I can work out the probability that that could happen normally.

On the other hand my metagross never missed a single zen headbutt, and he was my mvp so I can complain.

>lead with focus sash pheromosa in super singles
>win

>>31479651
I'm at 50 in Singles and Multis

>>31484116
Good luck in doubles, anon

>>31484302
I'm going to try out some karenfagging first but then i'll come crying for a good set in these threads

>>31483523
Royal is way easier than battle tree

>>31484393
Too bad it takes fuking forever to grind

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>lose to reds last mon
>next try lose to brown bitch with 3 legendaries
>we both go down simultaneously
>smugly tells me I'm too arrogant and need to git gud

>mfw I get walled by a thundurus
>literally nothing to put on my team

mega croissant clefable and kartana

>sweeping with Moxiemence because I forgot about Intimidate and haven't got enough BP for Salamenceite yet
>suddenly FEAR Sceptile
What the ever-loving fuck is this?

>>31478975
i lost to brightpowder once (in the maison actually, but they're both horse shit)
my team wasn't bad the game was just tired of losing and didn't want me to beat super singles

>Sableye with Prankster
>Brightpowder
>Double Team, Confuse Ray, Thunder Wave, Dark Pulse
Fucking really? I barely beat it by snapping out of confusion and having Kartana use Smart Strike.

The only times I've lost in the Tree with my in-game teams I've gone back to the Battle Video and realized it was my own bad decision making to blame because I could beat it with the same team but a different approach in the Mock Battle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WSB6TFQ9o

reminder that the AI doesn't cheat at all

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>>31481554
>Using your in-game team will get you nowhere.
>mfw won Super Singles and Super Doubles with my in-game team

ITT: kiddies that can't build a decent team

It's just the AI.

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>>31482037
>Implying the Battle Tree is somehow drastically different when compared to Battle Maison
>Implying people are not going to eventually hit four-number-streaks in the current battle facility (this has happened already in Gens IV, V and VI and it's literally just a matter of time. Reaching streaks that high takes many months of playing.)
>Saying "No one implied nothing was impossible" even though you used bad luck as an example of cheating in your previous post
>Saying "EVEN if proof was shown you would still bitch" without actually showing any proof
Truly a perfect example of why you shouldn't argue with people who think battle facilities cheat.

>blatantly obvious feature of the game
Such as? Are you implying that the game not working like it's programmed to is "blatantly obvious"? Are you out of your mind?

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I just got 4 freezes in a row. I have become the Battle Tree RNG,

>>31479985
>>_>

Beat the singles 50 using ninetails, Megamence and Aegislash. Now to wrap my head around doubles.