How can we fix this mechanic?

but it's good

>>31459141
Let them work it out it's hip to nitpick at everything in Sun and Moon right now.

we delete corsola from existence

>>31459134
Make it more frequent. Seriously, wasting PPs for dozens of turns only to get the "its help didn't appear" message is fucking awful. The adrenaline orb sucks balls and doesn't do shit.

potential 6ivs
no 255 limit
hidden abilities chance up to 30%
Shiny chance keeps increasing

>>31459172
>hidden abilities chance up to 30%
This is the most important part imo. Chaining for HAs are the worst thing I've done in Pokemon since the Dream World.

>>31459191
Dream World is a mistake. Goes to show how short sighted GF is.

>>31459134
>speed it up
Like seriously RPGs from 20 years ago like Earthbound and Dragon Quest did this stuff instantaneously. How did GameFreak fuck it up?

Bring back hordes
Make help appear 100% of the time if you used an orb and have an item to prevent help from appearing

>>31459191
>>31459207

Since Kukui's wife is here, they should reintroduce the Dream World.

>>31459134
>Using the Adrenaline Orb shortens the calling animation
>If a Pokemon has its hidden ability, it appears in a puff of yellow smoke instead of white

>>31459257
Is this True?

>>31459255
I don't understand the connection

>>31459288
She researches dreams alongside Fennel.

>>31459252
We REALLY need an inverse Adrenaline Orb.

>>31459134
I'd just enable catching the helping pokemon.

>>31459300
Now that I think about it, it'd be pretty cool to have an in-game Dream World. Solves the problems of having to use the PGL and the time limits.

>>31459252
>Whoa! A horde of X appeared!
>O3DS fucking dies

>>31459330
And no need to worry about things that make gen v literally unplayable because most of the gameplay is stripped off by the out of nowhere server shutdown .

>>31459310
>inverse adrenaline orb is introduced
>help appears every fucking turn
You know game freak will hax it that way.

>>31459257
Also:
>after the first help arrives, you get the option to call in another Pokemon in your team, making it 2 vs 2

>>31459172
>>31459257
these

>>31459351
I still don't understand why they felt the need to lock berries behind the Dream World when they could have easily used HGSS's Berry Pots.

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>>31459134
Add more shit like corsola and mareanie. Just add it for the dex entry continuity. Maybe also add hordes back in for the options. Both worked well lore wise at least. We got shit like sableye attacking carbink in sos and sudowoodo appearing in a horde of trevenant. Just add more. It'd be cool if you could find rare and even possibly overleveled pokemon this way. Think that they wouldn't bother with a trainer if it weren't for the free meal. For example, you could mess with a cubone and have a 1% chance of accidentally attracting a mandibuzz at evo level. Not sure about the balance, but I guess a low catch rate would fix that. They could even stack. For example, Wishiwashi could get attacked by the wailord line. Then dhelmise shows up to attack wailord. Alternatively, pelliper shows up and whatever eats pelliper. Weavile could be a rare for vulpix and sandshrew in order to rectify the rarity of the item. Gabite and sableye could show up for carbink or maybe start fighting each other over it. You could even do shit like victreebell and carnivine attracting bug pokemon and attacking them.
There's so much neat shit they could do with it now that they've tested it. Hopefully they'll expand it and fix framerate issues. Also, they could optimize the mechanic so it isn't as much of a pain.

>>31459163
Why are you wasting PP? Just use an item like a potion on something fully healed

>>31459342
I fixed the sos mecanic, not GF's poor skill at optimization

>>31459134
>bring back the dark grass from Gen V
>dark grass has random double encounters
>if one wild Pokemon is fainted the remaining one can SOS call replacements
>have the dust clouds and splashes do the same thing in cave and surfing
>rippling fishing spots do the same thing for fishing, and regular fishing spots no longer have completely fucked encounter rates.

>>31459163
>>31459454
If you use the Adrenaline Orb it skips your turn so you don't have to worry about it dipshits.

>>31459454
Money is hard to get in SM

>>31459460
Combine that with ORAS' dexnav minus the bullshit and we're all good to go

>>31459462
use orb retard

>>31459134
Bring the ORAS radar and Hordes back. There was nothing with these two thing, they worked perfectly.

make shinies appear with the same odds as normal encounters.

>>31459515
That totally devalues what makes shines valuable in the first place. Not that I don't find the mall the time already.

>>31459521
what do you mean? the shiny odds are way too high. i would like if the only method was masuda.

>>31459531
Lol what? Masuda has higher odds

>>31459540
eggs take way more time

>>31459544
Still not higher odds.

>>31459544
SM has the highest egg generating and egg hatching times thanks to the tauros ride.

>>31459134
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>>31459134
simple, go back to hordes

>>31459134
Let repels work in battle to stop more from appearing

>>31459756
I'm gud. SOS battles are still a bad mechanic.

>>31459461
This. Dumbasses.

>>31459150
>nitpick
kek

>>31459141
I can barely enjoy wild battles anymore. I just use repels now.

>>31459163
Does the Adrenaline Orb stack?

>>31459462
Haha. Sun & Moon throws money at you like it's nothing.

>>31460633
it does not - but here is a protip, nifty little TM called False Swipe

>>31460654
That' not good to use on some Pokemon.

Anyways, yesterday I figured out that super effective moves make wild Pokemon more likely to call for help. So I decided I'll just find a Pokemon with really good coverage moves that are weak and try to SOS chain with that.

The ideal SOS chaining Pokemon would probably be something with low/decent offensive power, high defensive power, wide coverage, immune to or resistant to moves like Take Down, Double Edge, can prevent moves like Self-Destruct/Explosion from activating, and has many resistances.

>>31460704
just a smeargle will do

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>>31459134

>>31460768
Fix it for Corsola.

I just want a god damn counter to be added once an SOS chain starts like in online battles. I hate having to manually keep track of this shit.

>>31459163
>wasting pp
Dude I have over 900 leppa berries and so should you.

The only problem here is time.

>A counter so that you can keep track of your chain
>An item that prevents SOS
>Some kind of notification when your chained mon has HA, IVs, Held items, yadda yadda yadda (I don't know why clicking on the Pokemon's icon in battle doesn't show you this)

>>31459255
They will. It's just a question of if it will be the way they introduce the National Dex or if it will be in a sequel for this region.

>>31459134
>there's literally guides on how to farm using this method
>people are still retarded enough to not look for them and complain

>>31461123
>doesn't bother to read what the thread's about
>we're retarded due to his lack of reading skills

wew lad

>>31459172
>no 255 limit
???

>>31461201
Due to the way the game is coded after 255 pokemon have been chained in a single attempt the counter resets to 0 meaning your chance of hidden abilites and shiny rolls is back to 0

>>31461231
and it's not going to change unless you change the entire game's coding system

>>31460649

Items are a lot more expensive

It's too easy to waste your items

>>31461103
>A counter so that you can keep track of your chain

I miss Gen 4

>>31459134
Using the adrenaline orb should make them call and recieve help every single time.

>>31459134
Make it so only adrenaline orbs cause SOS battles.

Adrenaline orb makes calling for help guaranteed and always successful, but either A) only lasts for five-ten turns, or B) has another orb that ends the SOS battle

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>>31459134
remove it

>>31461506
No, you should only need a few lines to cap it. If turn≤254 add 1 else set 255

Not really a programmer so that's likely not written write but seriously it shouldn't be a hard fix

Why would Mareanie show up to help Corsola?

Also to fix SOS battles
1. Pokemon cannot call for help on the first turn regardless of HP.
2. Add a hold item that stops SOS battles.

>>31459931
>kek
lol

>>31459134
Get rid of it

>>31461947

It didn't

Mareanie got out of it's hiding spot

The Corsola is Fucking scared that you made it appear

>>31459134

make it so that SOS only occurs when an Adrenaline Orb is used.

It doesn't matter anyway because its gonna be removed Gen 8.

>>31462359
The sad part is... He's right.

>some pokemon have really low SOS encounter rates

chaining for a good IV Drampa was a nightmare cause half the time it was "herpaderp help didn't appear :^)"

>>31459134
It's too rigid.

>Wild encounter
>Oh a wild Pokemon
>If you're going to catch it or kill it, either way you start to damage it and status it so it's prime for capture
>At lower levels this isn't so easy because it gets to attack you AND call for help on the same turn
>You can very easily get stuck in a loop where it summons every single turn, attacks your Pokemon and you OHKO either the new one coming in or the old one just so you can catch one of them, any one, you don't care, you just want it to end
>Eventually you or it run out of PP and switch/it dies

Do any of these:
>You can throw Pokeballs even with two Pokemon present
>It can't attack and call for help on the same turn, but calling for help is 90-100% successful
>Adrenaline orb ALWAYS immediately triggers a call for help (otherwise why the fuck does it exist)
>Summoned Pokemon aren't either the same Pokemon or an evolved version, do more like Corsola & Mareanie, Zangoose & Seviper, Miltank & Tauros, Trevenant & Sudowoodo - we like these, they're clever
>Call for help Pokemon are NOT exclusive to that mechanic
>But they ARE always guaranteed 3+ perfect IVs - hell make each call guarantee one extra new IV so you only have to do it three times
>Bring back hordes as well those were good, fix the fucking framerate though Jesus

>>31461947
Mareanie is there to prey on a weakened corsola

>>31462359
>>31462366

SOS is better than horde battles

It's going to be replaced gen 8 will something better hopefully

>>31462669
If SOS battles, hordes and the new EV item system were all in the same game, hordes would be the superior system for raising EVs. It would take 6 battles to max a stat using hordes compared to 14 opponents using SOS.

>>31462687

SOS doubles the EV's with each encounter though

>>31461915
That's absolutelt not how it works. Adrenaline Orb increases the chamce of a pokemon calling for help for the entire duration of the battle, even if the chain is reset.

>>31462734
It's not cumulative, it only doubles the EVs given by Pokemon that enter the battle.

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>>31462456
Just being able to throw balls when more than two Pokémon would go far. You can target your attacks, why the fuck wouldn't you be able to target your ball?

>>31463028
Who knows with GF?

>>31463028
Because your character is a dumb kid.

I miss Dexnav. At least it let you know that the pokemon you were encountering actually has a HA or not. Chain battles take for fucking ever.

I also miss the little map of the area that shows you what pokemon of that area you've caught and when you've successfully caught everything. Made it feel like an achievement.

At least some kind of visual queue when a Pokemon with a Hidden Ability spawns.

Most don't make it obvious.

>>31459134
Remove it entirely. SOS is one of the worst things to be added to the game. It makes wild encounters drag on forever.

>>31464420

git gud

>>31459151

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement.

Mother fucker.

>>31464094
This would be nice.

>>31464420

Nah. I think it's very useful for farming items off pokemon like metal coat. Just torture the fuck out of one, make it call for help a bunch of times, you got an unending supply of the same type of pokemon and just kill each newcomer with a good hit of Thief to get its item if it has one.

>>31459461
This.

Doing so doesn't even consume the Adrenaline Orb, so you won't run out.

How retarded are you faggots?

SOS never happens unless you use an Adrenaline Orb.
>Implying they'll keep this feature for Gen 8

>>31464731
I call bullshit. It consumes the already defunct orbs.

>>31464807
This. GF always keeps previous generation gimmicks out of the next generation.

>>31464838
You never tried using one again, did you?

>>31464711
>Chances for metal coat to appear is like never ever
> can't obtain it anywhere else, it's the only way to make scyther exponentially stronger
Wtf gamefreak, i hate item trade evos and scizor is always my least favorite due to this shit mechanic.

>>31464838
It most certainly does not.

Go try it and tell me what happens.

Spot the retard, he's here >>31464838

>>31464886
>Compound Eyes

The only one that's genuinely a pain in the ass is the Razor Claw.

increase hidden abilities and shiny chance of appearing once you hit a certain mark, say 100
SOS calling replaces the pokemon's action for the turn.
Fix Beldum's fucking catch rate

>>31464989
>increase hidden abilities and shiny chance of appearing once you hit a certain mark, say 100
They already do. Or do you mean more?

>>31459134
Remove it, bring back hordes for EV training and DexNav for HA hunting.

>>31464960
Fuck it I'm just gonna ev train and evolve my scyther and sneasel in OR before banking it to Sun