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Kalos was not THAT bad.

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Kalos was not THAT bad.
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Yeah, it was.
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Better than Sinnoh by a large margin
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>>31456669
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What the fuck?
Kalos was good.
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>>31456695
>France
>Good
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How exactly is Kalos bad again? And I mean the region, not the game.
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At least it isn't Unova.
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Who?
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31456621
>extremely linear
>some areas have extra entry points for no reason (like the power plant in the desert)
>other areas are barren or feel unfinished (Zygarde's cave, the unknown 'dungeon')
>some areas are completely pointless (the spooky manor)
>Route 1
>so
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>>31456756
>Extremely forgettable areas
>Shit music made the towns even more forgettable
>Many towns had the exact same buildings and environments, and felt very samey all together
>Areas that are memorable for the wrong reasons, like Route 13
>An incredibly linear progression despite all the branching paths, roadblocks galore
>Worst caves in the series
>Boring locale altogether, grassy hills and forests everywhere except for a few locations
>Skating rails randomly thrown everywhere which looks retarded
>Lumiose, the main attraction, is a fucking pain in the ass to navigate

Laverre City was cool though.
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>>31456621
It was HORRIBLY boring.
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Comfy region. I've done only one full play through and I can remember everything.
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It wasn't very good. Some of the route and town themes were decent but most of the routes were forgettable and only like 3 cities were of any interest. Didn't help that the pacing in most of the game was so bad you essentially B-lined it from gym 2 to Lysandre.
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>>31456621

Oh yes it was

Look at that fucking desert

It's just there
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>>31456621
but I wouldn't want to live there.
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Tierno sucked
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Name 5 good thing that came out of Kalos
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>>31457107
wtf did he eat his pokemons' moves
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>>31457063
The desert at least was explorable unlike 75% of Alola.
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>>31457115
Fairies (Poison really needed that, even if Steel is more prevalent)

Skiddo allowed you to JUMP UP ON LEDGES but only in certain areas so it's not even that important

Pokeball factory, because now we know those actually exist

some real cool Pokemon (Emphasis on some; they can't all be winners)

Megas to the Pokemon that really needed it

that's all I can think of, so it's not much
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>>31457120
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>>31457141
>a barren blob of nothing with 3 inaccessible power plants is explorable
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>>31457141

>explorable

Being big and open doesn't mean shit if there's nothing there but buildings you can't enter
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>>31457141

Exploration means jack shit if there's no substance

Alola had a lot of interactable things in what it did allow you to go through and people who use this meme are fags who rushed through the game and expect the game to hand them shit to do on a platter>>31457148
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>>31457107
>Tierno's team gets destroyed by a HA Stantler with Thunderbolt
you literally can't make this shit up
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>>31456621
You fucking kidding me?
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>>31457148
I miss being able to jump ledges with Skiddo. Everytime I was on that route I would go that farm and ride some Skiddo.
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>>31457148
>Fairy-type nerfed an already weak type (bug) and buffed an already strong type (steel)
>Kalos Rides as a gimmick are severely outdated now that Alola exists. And let's face it: even without that, we expected so much more from PokeRides when they first announced them
>Sure, Pokeball Factory is cool I guess. I'll give you that one
>A dex with seventy (70) pokemon out of which only two or three are memorable
> Megas as a concept was good but it ended up sucking as well because they also gave Megas to Pokemon that were already stupidly poweful like Lucario and the Latios bros

You've only given me one good thing about Kalos, anon
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>>31456669
Came here to post this.
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>>31457204
>Latios bros
>bros
are you retarded?
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>>31456669

Heck no

The only thing wrong with Sinnoh was the swamp areas

Which Kalos somehow did worse, Sinnoh just had more areas
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>>31456621
Better than Sinnoh, Hoenn and Unova.
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>>31457115
>>31457148
>>31457204
>Trainer customization
>Pokéballs being passed down by breeding
>Pokédex divided by subregion, making it more approachable
>Ability to see EV spreads in-game
>Probably the second most popular starter trio, after Gen I

If we're counting things that didn't make it to Gen VII:
>Friend Safari
>PSS
>Super Training
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>>31456621
Yeah, it was all bad
Ohohohoho
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It's not great, but it's still better than Alola.
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Am I the only one that liked Unova?
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>>31457361
Nigga, that is my favorite region.
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>>31457414
I played B/W around a time when I had no friends, so it was just me and this game, and I grew to love this region the most because of it.
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Even as a fan of gen 6 it's still easily the weakest gen by far. They can't all be winners, and it was a big step.
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>>31456669
Gen 4 was good on the whole, but Sinnoh itself was boring. Not sure if it's slightly better or worse than Alola.
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>>31457361
>Chargestone cave
>Marine Tube/Himalu city
>Royal Unova
>Village Bridge
>Nimbasa/Las Vegas+Ferris Wheel

So good
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>>31457361
Unova was great!
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>>31457449
The same with me, though near the end of BW and the start of BW2 is when I got to experience the features one needs friends for.

Gen 5 and Unova still stand as my favorite gen/region for that reason among others.
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>>31457308
>If we're counting things that didn't make it to Gen VII:
>Friend Safari
>PSS

Don't remind me...
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>>31457063
Sinnoh and Unova both have a desert that makes no sense either and yet of course the underage sinnohfetuses/unovabortions conveniently ignore this.
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>>31457494
I loved Ghetsis too. Sure he was edgy in appearance, but Team Plasma felt like a re-purposed Knights Templar, and he was a legit badass who seriously fucked up the region, evil genius style, with a fucking ice ray.
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>>31457612
So were going to ignore Hoenn's desert now?
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>>31457623
You know he's going to say it's because it's next to a volcano and that makes no goddamn sense because places next to volcanos are incredibly fertile
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>>31457623
>Hoennbabies
A reminder to get a load of this and know your place as the gen that killed the Pokemon fad.
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>>31456621
had the prettiest towns
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>>31457766
>Nostalgiashits
Listen here nigger.
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>>31457766
>>31457793
Everyday I wonder if the games would be in MUCH better quality if the fad kept on.
There'd at least be less bullshit like the Chespin and Trubbish lines, for sure.
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>>31456621
I thought the pacing was decent since I only had 3 badges at the 10 hour mark. Then I beat Korrina and I swear like 5 hours later I was the fucking champion.
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>>31457494
Unova as a region has a lot of cool areas, but unfortunately the CIRCLE meme is true which makes the region less memorable
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>>31457793
>the nostalgia copout
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>>31458004
But we can all agree that Gen IV was played by nothing but the most autistic of the grade school kids.

Pokemon like Stunfisk and Trubbish are joke Pokemon though, like Farfetched and Dunsparce (as cool as those Poke's actually are though)

I'll give you Chespin though. I think form one is pretty cute, but then it gets weird with form 2, and finally it makes no fucking sense.
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>>31457480

Your acting as if Alola wasn't bad
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Best:

Kanto

Great:
Kalos

Good:
Johto
Alola
Sinnoh

>Bad
Unova
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>>31456621
As a concept, yes. What brought it down was the massive dex, casualisation, and bland/forgettable characters.
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>>31457107
At least he's just a friend, not even a rival or elite 4
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all this arguing when gen 3 is the best
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>>31457361
Great region, shitty champions
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>>31457494
Unova was pretty cool, but it didn't really feel alive like the other regions. It just felt dead to me.
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>>31458559
>Best
>Kanto
I have nothing against Kanto but the region is really bland and boring.
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>>31458702
What the heck.

And people are talking crap about XY?
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>>31458571
>bland/forgettable characters.
Complain about it one more time and gen 8 will have 15 hours of pointless cutscenes.
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>>31456621
Aesthetically its beautiful even speaking as someone who does not like France. Pokemon designs are mostly likely. The story is a fucking train wreck and the evil team is an absolute joke.
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>>31457361
Fuck no. Best region by far.
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>>31458024
>but unfortunately the CIRCLE meme is true which makes the region less memorable
What did he mean by this?
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>>31456621
The biggest problem for Kalos based games was that they came after Gen 5. The story, the characters, everything was Gen 4 tier, so it was an obvious step back. What sealed the deal was that unlike Gen 4, which was saved by a third version, it got no third version to give it extra content like Battle Frontier and a bit more difficulty.
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>>31456621
best map, best gen in my books. Just wish it was bigger with more side spots.
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>>31458559
>Hoenn
Apparently nonexistent?
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>>31457569
A VIP Safari would have been even better than a Friend Safari, too, since you wouldn't have to pop out of the game to add people and you could populate it purely through ingame actions.
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>>31458702
For whatever reason Hariyama kept spamming Fake Out even when I sent out a ghost type.
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>>31456669
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>>31456834
> Zygarde's cave
> Unfinished
???
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>>31456852
>An incredibly linear progression despite all the branching paths, roadblocks galore
That's neither Unova nor Alola though
>Worst caves in the series
Find one good cave in Sinnoh and Alola
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>>31456621
It was shit, but Sun and Moon made it look like a gem. Actually made me appreciate having X/Y and ORAS and not being stuck with a game that is basicly just a movie out of cutscenes with shitty new mons and characters and the most cancerous meta we had yet.
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>>31456621
The desert and the tundra were the worst areas in any pokemon game to date.
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>>31458702
>Waterfall
>Submission
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>>31459590
Guess you dont know what a desert is
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As for region design and pokemon, I'll give it that. Everything else ? Don't make me laugh.
Also points for the music
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>>31456852
This whole post boils down to "NOT MEMORABLE". When I found Kalos to have much more character than Kanto or Johto. All the French locations used in the game were also easily identified by someone who has never been to France.
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>>31457766
gtfo nostalgfag
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>>31456621
>that consecutive line of Desert / Spring / Swamp / Autumn / Snow / Spring / Snow again

Jesus christ this region design was awful
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>>31456621
pokemon goes through the Zelda cycle
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>>31458559
kanto is fucking homogenized boring bland piece of shit where everywhere looks practically the same, and the pokemon designs are literally real life animals with a slight recolour. Its the most imaginative part of Pokemon. Your list is backwards champ.
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>>31458702
>gothita used psywave!
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>>31457120
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>>31459583
>Find one good cave in Sinnoh
Wayward Cave, Turnback Cave and Mt. Coronet. are pretty cool.
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>>31456621
I'm not sure if it was the region or the people in it, but Kalos was boring as hell.
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>>31458963
I'll take 15 hours of cutscenes if it means gen 8 will have characters people actually care about.
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>>31457120
Underrated
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>>31457120
Heh.
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The region was pretty nice. Had a real historic atmosphere to it
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>>31457361
>>31457361
Yes, it looks like shit
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>>31457612
Sinnoh didn't have a desert though?

As for Unova's, remember the region is inspired by NYC. The desert is a nod to Ground Zero in the original games, and in the sequels, you see rebuilding efforts taking place.
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>>31460062
Sinnoh has a desert on the battle island.
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>>31460086
OH. Yeah. Now I remember.
fuck that desert, it sucked.
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>>31460017
I don't know about you but I'm here for the Pokemon, not the cliche'd human kids.

If I were to care about humans I could play literally any other JRPG.
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>>31459587
>the most cancerous meta yet
You didn't play VGC '16 did you
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>>31457361
Of course not, it has those memorable cities like Accumpoula, I mean Castelia and uh... Big Bridge.
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>>31457612
Unova's desert did make sense. It was the site where the dragons clashed and wrecked shit
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>>31456689
>Literally just a mountain
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>>31457361
It's my favorite region by far.


Comfy as fuck too.
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>>31456756
Name one town that isn't Lumiose without looking it up
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>>31462785
Laverre and Snowbelle
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>>31457361
Japan loved it.

It provided them with many memes.
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>>31456852
>not anistar
die
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>>31463091
What memes?
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>>31457107
Who?
Oh yeah, we got like, four or five rivals, huh?
Barry was more memorable
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>>31456621
the only bad things in Kalos is that the characters had NO (0) personality and the writing was a fucking ass, and that practically destroyed the game to me

all the rest is okay. its around rank 5 or something in my top 7 regions
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West Hoenn > Sinnoh > Johto > Alola > Kanto > Kalos > Unova > East Hoenn
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>>31463244
>Dividing Hoenn
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>>31456852
>Many towns had the exact same buildings and environments, and felt very samey all together
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who was bothered by this.
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