ITT: Pokémon you wish were better competitively.

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buff plx

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It's not that he's bad, I just wish he had that something to make him stand out.

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>>31419862
Lilligant can at least function in doubles/VGC. Pic related is awesome, but useless.

>>31419722
Lurantis.

> Adorable design
> Grass pretending to be a bug motif is cool
> Contrary Leaf Storm, Aromatherapy, Defog, Solar Blade
> Decent bulk

At least it's doing well in RU.

>>31419900
Zangoose seems like it could actually put in work in OU. It's got a damn powerful STAB Facade, decent speed tier, etc. It'd make a decent wallbreaker, wouldn't it?

>>31419744
Give it Shell Smash and Filter

>>31419862
Already works great as VGC support

>>31419896
No

>>31419900
Mega with Anger Point?

>>31419908
Should have had 95 Speed

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Swinub buff to become Ubers when

Seviper
Chimecho
Carnivine
Yamask

t. James, I guess

>>31419944
3/10 never works.

Minior. Just give it accelerock and its suddenly amazing

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It's so weak that it's unfair. It needs a secondary typing and a higher Attack stat.

>>31420010
Nigga please.
Shell Smash/White Herb. Them bloe things away with Acrobatics.

>>31420183
>It needs a secondary typing
Game Freak needs to buff monotype 'mons overall. Having a second STAB option shouldn't be so paramount to usability
>Meganium
>Sceptile
>Serperior
>Tangrowth
>Carnivine
>Maractus
>Lilligant
>mfw the only truly good mono-grass we've ever had was changed into a fag type the very next gen after it was introduced

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Remove pebbles. Volcarona will be great with just that, give Zard a better HA, and give the birb his Braveness against.

>>31419862
If you get a single quiver dance up it destroys in the battle spot.

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>>31420207
>single typed mons now get STAB modifier x2 instead of x1.5
OT: pic related

>>31419914
No. It's not putting in work even in NU.

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Give it Liquidation for a reliable STAB, while not being completely shut down by Taunt.

>>31420220
This meme would be funnier if two Grass-types were getting BLACKED by all the rocks, and the rocks prevent the shitmons from interrupting them. Just sayin.

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Even Levitate and nothing else would make it the only Steel to not be weak to Fire and Ground at the same time.

I-I guess Tri Attack is okay

>>31420618
>Base 60 Attack
Would you like to try again champ?

>>31420640
>literally zero attacking moves
That guys retarded though, it should switch its atk and spa and give it scald instead.

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No moves.

>>31420645
If only there were an ability that prevented Taunt.

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id be happy with 10 more bst in attack and speed
>>31419935
>Give it Shell Smash and Filter
just let Bullet proof be immune to moonblast
>>31420618
scald all it would ever want for a attack

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A-atleast he's good in trick room, r-right?

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>>31419722

I just want it to have some kind of niche over other Ghost types, particularly Gengar.

>>31420696
No.

>>31420640
I would if it gets a buff in it's Sp. Atk.

That is why I chose Liquidation over Scald, but I did consider it.

>>31420696
I have to put it on every doubles trick room teams, it wrecks shop there. Shame its useless outside of it

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Just give it a hidden ability, please.

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Stache doggo

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I just want it to be usable ingame.

>>31419935
>wanting more pokemon with anger point

>>31419935
>Mega with Anger Point
>When Tough Claws exists

>>31420207
>Serperior
>Tangrowth
>buff

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>>31419900
Zangoose's worst enemy also needs a buff. Aurora veil has made it more valuable since it has infiltrator, but lackluster stats hold it back.

>>31421218
either bring back the sucker punch move tutor or let it be passed down from arbok through breeding. Maybe buff poison tail too. (and perhaps add 20 to speed or attack or both)

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>>31419722
It's effectively a worse Swalot who was already a worse Muk WHO WAS ALREADY IN PU!

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>>31419722
Both Gardevoir and Tapu Lele completely outclass him.

>>31421261
Nigger what? Garbodor is a top tier NU.

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>meant to be dedicated wall

>terrible defensive typing
>hp so low that defenses don't matter
>no recovery outside of rest
At it has sticky web.

>>31419722
I love toxicroak since it shuts down toxapex. I love toxapex but it's funny.
>>31420618
Cucumber is amazing, z memento is honestly good and it has great stalling potential.

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>>31421299
Color me surprised. How? Aren't its stats worse that Swalot and Muk? What moves does it have that make it better? Just T-Spikes?

>>31421320
Bulky enough to reliably set up tspikes, also fucks up m-audino which is common in NU.

>>31420804
Truant

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Give it slightly more HP and recovery beyond lol pain split

>>31420639
Probopass could have many interesting abilities that would make it good
> Levitate (x0 ground)
> Regenerator (useful recover)
> Solid Rock (x3 Ground/Fighting)
> Sand Stream (plus 50% special defense)
> FUCKING Huge Power and DESTROY EVERYTHING

>>31420317
>Protean now has Adaptability bundled in
Please no

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how do we fix him

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I'd love to see this show up in a battle

>>31420207

>mfw the only truly good mono-grass we've ever had was changed into a fag type the very next gen after it was introduced

Who?

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>>31421614
Whimsicott I'm guessing

>>31420207
>not liking fairies

>>31421614
I believe she's talking about Whimsicott

>>31421614
Whimsicott if i'm correct

>>31421624
>>31421630

...wasn't that grass/flying?

>>31421642
No. Whimsicott was pure grass and turned into Grass/Fairy next gen, i can see why you would think that though

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>>31421642
>wasn't that grass/flying?

>>31421438
Then make it so Protean isn't affected

>>31421642
Maybe you're confusing it with Jumpluff? They both have similar roles anyway.

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>>31421659
>>31421438
>Not wanting le ninja frog to be b&
>Not wanting OUR TRUE HERO to emerge

>>31420618
Just give it Oblivious and Scald. Doesn't need Innards Out since it barely gets OHKO'd by anything and doesn't have a very high HP stat anyway.

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>>31419722
I just wish it was better.

>>31422854
It needs either more speed or bulk and a better physical ghost-type STAB. Or Iron Fist needs to be buffed to make punching moves do 50% more damage.

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>>31422854
I know, such a phenomenal design and its a shitmon. Still love it.