>it's a Flying-type with no decent Flying STAB

>>31380881
>Not using Bounce

Heh, why don't you bounce yourself outta here kiddo

>>31380881
>using flying types
>for any reason

>>31380881
>what is gen 3 hp flying
Areodactyl is true suffering
Rock head
dex descriptions mentioning how it has a head to smash shit with
>doesn't get Head smash
>Doesn't get brave bird
IT WAS MADE FOR THESE
NINTENDO WHY

>>31380909
Please understand.

>>31380909
>brave bird
Not a bird

Please bait somewhere else

>>31380881
>XY introduces a Water/Dark Mega
>Doesn't get Crunch till ORAS

>>31380936
>The user tucks in its wings and charges from a low altitude. The user also takes serious damage.
>Tapu Koko
>Blaziken
>crobat
Clearly bird requirement

>>31380881
>he doesn't use Bounce
>he doesn't use Z-Bounce
Fraud detected

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>>31380936
Sup

>>31380964
Umbreon still doesn't learn bite naturally
you have to carry it over from eevee

>>31381075
It doesn't need bite. It learns faint attack, which is better anyway.

>>31381119
Then why does bite exist?
Why not just have anything with teeth learn crunch?
A lot of dark types learn these pointless moves
its just weird it doesn't learn bite... when eevee does

>>31380968
>>Tapu Koko
>>Blaziken
Both roosters
>>crobat
Name is literally "crow+bat"

>>31380968
>>31380988
>implying bats aren't birds

>>31381184
>tapu koko a rooster
topu keku
>crow+bat
>Areo+ pterodactyl

>>31380936
>dinosaurs aren't birds

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>>31381185
>implying bats aren't bugs

>>31381236
its not even a dinosaur
hahahaahahah
look at this nerd he can't even meme cause he failed biology

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>>31381184
>crow+bat

>>31380968
>tucks in its wings and charges from a low altitude
So the only requirements are
a) wings that can be tucked in
b) can fly (not float)

This makes sense for the majority of Flying-types that can't learn Brave Bird, e.g.:
Altaria (b)
Mantine (a)
Minior (a)
Tornadus, Thundurus, Landorus (a)
Rayquaza (a)
Salamence
Jumpluff (a, b)
etc.

Now, some that DON'T make sense are:
Noctowl
Emolga
and Aerodactyl

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>>31380881
>Gets Hurricane
>60 Special Attack stat

WELP

>>31380881
Bounce and Z move you retard

>>31381281
That's clearly Machop + bat

>>31381380
>Altaria (b)
Altaria doesn't float

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>>31380881
>It's part Normal type
>No reason to use it's Normal STAB over other coverage

>>31381527
It's a cloud, I always assumed it flaps its wings just for show.

>>31381474
I ran this nigga with fire blast back in stadium when I was a kid lol

>>31381165
Bite has a flinch chance while Feint Attack doesn't.

>>31381535
>It's part Normal type
>smogonfags hate it and want you to abandon your bros

>>31381589
In Gen I Gyarados Special was 100. So using Special attacks on it was ok.

It was a slighty weaker Dragonite with a proper STAB.

>>31381474
>>31381589
>ran it with hydro pump and thunder in platinum
>realize now i was retarded

>>31380936
Implying lizards aren't owls

>>31380881
Bounce is unironically great
on a subDD set it gives you another turn of lefties, and often forces the opponent to switch to something that resists bounce

>>31381709
>anything used protect
MAYBE use bounce with the flyinium z but here's is no reason to use it over waterium Z + coverage - usually ice fang )

>>31381729
If anything tries protecting, then you just set up sub and/or DD on it while it's protecting. Besides, what in singles is even gonna be running protect that wouldn't be setup bait, or be hit neutrally by waterfall?

>>31381649
Yeah, no flying moves back then tho, so dealing with grass which only deals neutral effectiveness, meaning you don't have to switch out was a PIA without a fire attack.

>>31381659
I thought waterfall was made physical by then? lower base damage but still better than h-pump

Salamence
at least flyiniulm kinda fixes this when you run fly, but then you have a dead slot after using the z move
>>31381789
>set up a sub or dd when you're in the middle of bounce

>>31381811
no, you idiot, after they protect the first turn you can predict that they'll protect again- that's where you setup DD/sub, and that's when protect becomes useless, since you can just setup on it.

>>31381789
>what in singles is even gonna be running protect that wouldn't be setup bait, or be hit neutrally by waterfall?
Toxapex? I know Baneful Bunker isn't that common anymore, but you might run into one.

>>31381829
read my post again

>>31380894
>using Bounce when Fly has higher BP
Even if its for the added Paralyze effect, Fly is better. Bounce's only use should be for Flyinium Z.

>>31381184
>Name is literally "crow+bat"
I've never been this triggered in my life
Thanks Anon

>>31381882
>Gyarados learns Fly

OK

>>31381882
Gyarados doesn't learn Fly.

>>31381165
>why do different shittier attacks exist
Because of themes and level up moves.

>>31380936
Nice try faggo, Decidueye learns it and owls aren't birds.

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>>31380881
Z-Fly (or in Gyarados' case Z-Bounce) has been an absolute godsend for part Flying mons that never had a decent way of making use of their secondary STAB. Dragonite, Salamence, Gyarados and Landorus-T now all have unique ways of COMPLETELY BTFO of any of their normal checks. It's great, especially when you conside that every mon I just listed learns some form of Dance move which means that can spend a turn setting up on the obvious switch in and then shit on their supposed check

>>31381789
>you spring up using bounce
>opponent did anything whatsoever
>you come down and attack
>opponent protects
heh

>>31382118
>singles
>bouncing without boosts