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>Every Ground-Type can now learn Shore Up How does the meta

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>Every Ground-Type can now learn Shore Up

How does the meta change?

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>>31340539
>Mega Steelix and Mudsdale are now OU
>Genie of healthy meta is finally Uber
>Primal Groundon will keep mega fug company in AG
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>Swampert gets reliable recovery
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>>31340539
Lando-T is finally pushed into Ubers. P-Don goes to AG and Ubers is finally a decent meta again. Mudsdale is UU/OU.
That's it.
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>>31340586
>>31340649
AG?
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>>31340666
nice trips, satan

Anyway, AG stands for Anything Goes, which is the only tier above Uber. As its name implies, there are no restrictions on what you can or cannot do. Mega Rayquaza is the only one stuck up there cause he's too good for Uber
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>>31340666
Anything Goes. It's when Smogon decides "this shit belong ANYWHERE" and just kicks it out of all of the singles formats entirely.
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>>31340722
*doesn't belong anywhere
Home to Mega Fug and SwagPlay Klefki
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How much does Shore Up restore in the sand? Serebii says 100% but it seems fishy. If that's the case though Hippowdown is fucking Ubers
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Zygarde 100% becomes AG
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>>31340539
Hippowdon will be firmly OU. Landor us is going to Ubers. Possibly garchomp too or at least it gets a better bulky set. Mudsdale would be UU or OU. Torterra might be good. Bulky Pert may reach OU or high UU. Steelix and Rhyperior would likely be much better maybe going to UU. OU if they are lucky.
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>>31340539

Lando-T is finally banished so I'm fine with it.
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U B E R S
B
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S
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>>31341275
The others, maybe, but Torterra already had synthesis as a recovery move. It's not like it's a particularly valuable addition to a sand team either. It would most likely be unchanged.
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>T-tar gets it through Pupitar
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>>31341275
>OU
>Rhyperior, a mon with 2 4x weaknesses
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>>31341275
Hippo already has Slack Off. If anything it faces more competition from Mudsdale then.
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>>31340738
I don't get why Swagplay Klefki is there since Prankster, Confusion, AND Thunder Wave were nerfed.
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>>31343995
I could recover 25% more thanks to the sandstorm, I think it would be enough to make it a better choice for sand teams than Tyranitar.
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>>31340539
>Shore Up Tyranitar
>Free 75% recovery move

sick meme, friend
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>>31344124
Swagger has been unbanned this gen actually.
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>>31344450
>tyranitay is ground type
???
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>>31344591

>What is Larvitar and Pupitar for $500?
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>Shedinja gets it through Nincada
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>>31344762
>Shore Up
>Leech Life got buffed

Instantly AG
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Garchomp can now be a dedicated wall

good job
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>>31340539
ZYGARDE LESS KEKED
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>Zygarde
RIP everything
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cucked broken meta fwaaaaa
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Whoah, hey guys
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It would only really make sense on
>Claydol
Made of Ground
>Golurk
Same
>Mudsdale
Eats mud
>Larvitar
Eats minerals
>Steelix
Same
>Golem
Made of minerals
>Torterra
Shell is made of dirt

Maybe Hippowdown and Sandy Cloak Wormadam.
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>>31344823
It gets roost.
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>>31340649
Why would Mudsdale ever be OU when Hippowdon outclasses it?
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>>31344831
Shore Up heals 100% in sand, and doesn't make you vulnerable to Ground attacks
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>>31344841
That's a really marginal improvement all things considered.
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>>31340539
Let's take it up further:
>Every Normal-Type can now learn Boomburst
>Every Fire-Type can now learn V-Create
>Every Fighting-Type can now learn Mach Punch (why are fighting moves so shit?)
>Every Water-Type can now learn Steam Eruption
>Every Flying-Type can now learn Oblivion Wing
>Every Grass-Type can now learn Spore
>Every Poison-Type can now learn Baneful Bunker
>Every Electric-Type can now learn Bolt Strike
>Every Psychic-Type can now learn Psystrike
>Every Rock-Type can now learn Diamond Storm
>Every Ice-Type can now learn Aurora Veil
>Every Bug-Type can now learn Quiver Dance
>Every Dragon-Type can now learn Dragon Dance
>Every Ghost-Type can now learn Spectral Thief
>Every Dark-Type can now learn Parting Shot
>Every Steel-Type can now learn Shift Gear
>Every Fairy-Type can now learn Geomancy
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>>31344838

>Stamina+Reliable recovery= It actually being better than Hippowdon cause Mudsdale has better special bulk and hits harder, as well as it being able to learn Fighting moves
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>>31343358
>What is solid rock
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>>31344601
>shedinja used shore up
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>>31344934
yeah, x3 weaknesses are nothing, it's totally not killed by any Scald out there
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>>31344909
>why are fighting moves so shit?
>HJK
>Aura Sphere
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>>31340539
>ZYGARDE SHORE UP
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>>31345106
A move that is hardly worth using because of the possible drawbacks and a move with unbelievably shit distribution, respectively.
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>>31345149
>a move with unbelievably shit distribution
but it's not shit though
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>>31345121
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>>31344931
>fighting moves on a ground type
Redundant
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>>31344909
>(why are fighting moves so shit?)

Are you high?
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>>31345121
Xerneas used Geomancy

Power Herb triggered

Sp atk n shit sharply rose

Xerneas used Moonblast le perfecto Zygarde fainted rip

If it had Aura Break it'd be different along with access to shore up
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>>31345286
>pokemon have weakness
Oh, yeah. I totally forgot it
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>>31345735
no shit
¨
problem is zygarde can get ohko'ed before it gets into its safe space aka complete form

>implying obvious shit
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>>31345756
>abilities have weakness

Woops, I forgot this too
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>>31343358
This.
Even recovery won't save it from being shipped off to NU with all the other shitmons like Heatran and Landorus
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>>31344909
>Shift Gear Mega Lucario
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>>31345778
Woops we got abilities like Speed Boost, Huge Power etc

>m-muh counter argument
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>>31345778
kys faggot
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>>31340539
hehehe could you be trying to kill me? nice try.

Also
>Recovery Landorus
>Recovery Garchomp
>Recovery Mudsdale
>Recovery Swampert
>Recovery Nidoqueen
>Recovery Rhyperior/don
>Recovery Mamoswine
>Recovery Mega Camerupt if it ever gets fucking freed from gen 6.
>Recovery Zygarde
>Recovery Seismitoad
>Recovery Excadrill
But most of all
>Recovery Primal Groudon
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>>31344909
>Every Fairy-Type can now learn Geomancy
Fuck no
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>>31340692
>there are no restrictions on what you can or cannot do
you're not allowed to use funbro
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>>31344909
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Porygon-Z Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar: 172-203 (50.4 - 59.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Porygon-Z Boomburst vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 264-312 (41.1 - 48.5%) -- 74.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Porygon-Z Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 136+ SpD Eviolite Porygon2: 284-336 (75.9 - 89.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Porygon-Z Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Celesteela: 255-301 (64 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
What the fuck
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>>31340539
>Hippowdon with AV and Shore Up is literally unkillable
Great job!
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>>31345991
>AV
>Shore Up
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>>31344909
>every Normal-Type can now learn Boomburst
>this would include eevee and swablu
Sylveon would jump right into OU, and mega-altaria get suspect-tested once the stone is released.

>every dark-type gets parting shot
Regular sableye becomes annoying as shit, greninja now also works as a pivot, helping the likes of landorus, lele and magnezone
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>>31345998
>Verlisify
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>>31343358

Yeah, I know right? Lunala barely puts in any work in UU.

Take your type meme out the door, faggot.
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>>31344909
>Every normal type can now learn Boomburst
>Porygon Z
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>>31346468
Z conversion becomes even more of a memestrat since you don't even take the type change for the adaptability bonus.
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>>31346326
not that guy

agreed, that's a stupid maymay
BUT
those weaknesses aren't the only thing holding rhyperior back, man. It's slow as shit and dies to /any/ special move bar electric ones

>inb4 rock polish
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>>31343358
>>31346531
Rhyps been UU/RU and had some OU tournament usage as is. Shore Up would probably be enough to push it into UU again after its fall in Gen 6.

Rhyperior is a Pokemon with tons of amazing qualities that's really only held back by mediocre SpD and a 4x Water weakness. Ground/Rock isn't that bad as far as typing goes because it makes Rhyperior very difficult to switch into, and lets it wall most Flying types, which typically have few solid counters in a lot of tiers. Unlike some other shitmon rock types like Golem it's not a Pokemon that can be brushed to the side, and Shore Up really rounds out the kit of something that's pretty decent.
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>>31344909
>Shift gear mega mawile
>dragon dance Garchomp
>Spore Lilligant
>Psystrike Espeon
>V-Create Primal Groudon
>Diamond Storm Tyranitar
>Oblivion Wing Mega Salamence
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>>31346611
>Shore Up would probably be enough to push it into UU
have you even seen UU nowadays? Dude, things like fucking Kyurem are RU right now, I'm sure as shit Shore Up Rhyperior wouldn't make it to UU.
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>>31345830
>have more speed/attack is better in absolutely every scenario
No

Also, even if you are pretending those abilities are perfect, what's your point? Until Gen 6, Sableye and Spiritomb had "perfect typing" and weakness meme was stupid too.
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>shore up mudsdale will never be real
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>>31340539

No one has mentioned Shore Up Alolan Marowak
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>>31343995
It would recover 75% because it summons a sandstorm. It still would outclass Mudsdale as it would heal more and still have stealth rock and whirlwind over Mudsdale
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>>31345164
Then why do so many fighting types run Earthquake?
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>>31345991
You seem to have forgotten how Shore Up works
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>>31349191
Good point. Even better bulky fire
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>>31349756
A lot of the things that resist Fighting don't resist or are weak to Ground, but Fighting only hits one of the types that Ground is NVE on for neutral or better damage.
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Shore-up Donphan would be cool, although you'd probably have to lose Knock-off or Rapid spin for it.
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>>31340539
>recovery Garchomp with Swords Dance
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>>31344909
>Pixilate Sylveon with boomburst and geomancy.
Jesus.
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