Battle Tree thread

>>31311075
how share battle video? want to show 1 of my vids

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Always good to be on the safe side my good chaps. No one likes to be ganged upon.

>>31311142
You know if you protect and all 3 of them target you they're just going to repeat the same action next turn. And that's if they don't blow Z moves on you and kill you through Protect anyway.

I am almost at 300 wins in singles and Anabel has never appeared, she is the only one left for me to scout

Got to 16 without EV trained pokes

Minior - Jolly
Stealth Rock
Shell Smash
Rock Slide
Acrobatics

Dragonite - Hasty @ Persim Berry
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Fire Punch
Earthquake

Tapu Lele - Bashful @ Psychicium
Moonblast
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Psychic

any tips?

>>31311164
Actually that post in relation to the batte tree pokemon who spams protect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEV_kjTAyy8

>>31311178
Yeah, EV and IV train some good pokemon.

Why the fuck does guzma lose his bug theme in the tree? His only bugs are pinsir and Golisopod right?

Been thinking about running vikavolt + porygon2 for trick room memery to get easy points in the doubles format, any sets you guys recommend?
also what other pokemon should i bring?

>>31311169
how????

>>31311178
>dragonite with two earthquakes
wew

>>31311252
because mono types in the tree don't make any sense. Same reason Mallow has that trumbeak and comfey

>>31311252
Even Type specialists know that one type is suicidal

>>31311240
I've bred a Timid Vulpix w/ Moonblast + Freeze Dry, Adamant Kanghaskan, Adamant Totodile w/ Dragon Dance, and a Jolly Mimikyu with four or five IVs w/ primary stat definitely 6. Planning on trying something w/ Minior, Kanga, and Mimikyu after I get enough for Kanghaskanite...how will I fare?

>>31311270
ack
Outrage not 2 EQs

>>31311308
A-Ninetails has been a good lead for me. I run a bulky, defensive set with Snow Warning. It can be frail, so using damage reducing berries might be a good idea. Or Light Clay if you're running Aurora Veil. Kangeskhan needs to able to mega evolve. Todadile is OK, but without sheer force it's not a great water type. Mimikyu seems will be good if you just give it swords dance and shadow claw.

Lum Berry or Weakness Policy on Barney

>>31311465
Weakness Policy if he has Multiscale, if not Lum Berry.

>>31311460
Interestng, I'll try it out. Kanga is definitely getting its mega-evo, and good point about Todadile, I'll switch in Mimikyu in its place and hopefully it works. Thanks anon

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one of these days we're gonna start seeing ubs and tapus in these facilities.
how does that make you feel?

>>31311671
Priority those fuckers with moves like Brav-

>>31311671
The same as when I saw legendaries in the Battle Tower and Facilities.

>>31311671
Bet Colress will have at least four of seven.
-Pheromosa
-Xurkitree
-Celesteela
-Guzzlord

Also, on a scale from 1 to 10, how crazy would Legendary Battle Facility mode where Ubers are unbanned be?

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>>31311923
no

>>31311923
I want a Battle Frontier.

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>>31311075
is protect/disable mega-zam any good in the tree or are the AI too unpredictable to make it work like in a real battle?

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So I finally decided to take on the madness of Super Singles after training a Salamence, and I managed to earn my stamp on the first try!

Mimikyu [Mickey] @ Lum Berry
Adamant; 252ATK / 4DEF / 252 SPD
-Play Rough
-Shadow Claw
-Shadow Sneak
-Swords Dance

Salamence @ Salamencite
Jolly; 252ATK / 4DEF / 252 SPD
-Double-Edge
-Earthquake
-Dragon Dance
-Roost

Celesteela [Kaguya] @ Leftovers
Careful; 252HP / 4ATK / 252 SDF
-Protect
-Leech Seed
-Heavy Slam
-Flamethrower

I'm too stressed to go on though... still, I'm so happy because it's my first time I managed to clear a Battle Facility in all my years as a Trainer! I bet a lot more folks have felt or are about to be so. Remember this: if RNG hax happens here, it can also happen on the overworld. There's no hax, just variance.

Anyway, I'll write observations on the AI on another post. In the meantime, here's a fill of Super Singles Battle Videos to entertain the people here since I somehow see a lack of Battle Videos in these threads.

Legend fights
-Grimsley fight: GALG-WWWW-WWW4-C3A5
-First Cynthia fight: WCGW-WWWW-WWW4-C3YV
-Second Cynthia fight: NT8W-WWWW-WWW4-C3JB
-The Colress Command: AH5G-WWWW-WWW4-C3JG
-Washed-up Veteran Red: BZAG-WWWW-WWW4-C3KX

RNG variance fun
-Round 12, faulty Flamethrower and the RNG that was not: YWGW-WWWW-WWW4-C37P
-Round 25, Physical hurdle: LSKW-WWWW-WWW4-C453
-Roun 38, Shuckle activates Sword and Shield... forever: TRQW-WWWW-WWW4-C4F7
-First contact with legends, featuring the genie of the healthy meta:
DHXG-WWWW-WWW4-C4QU

>>31312270
Super Singles RNG and AI observations:
-I led with MegaMence on the first ten, but then swapped Mimikyu as the lead. Instead of seeing enemy Ice-type leads, I saw folks who made dumb set-ups or who thought they could avert the Lum Berry. Needless to say, it was worth it. Always lead with Mimikyu and forget about giving it anything that's not a Lum Berry.
-Also, I was about to be KO'd out of the Tree due to the biggest cheat. Here I thought any Fire attack was enough to be thawed out... boy, I was wrong. (Round 12)
-Grimsley > Cynthia > Cynthia > the Colress Command was what I got on my way to Red. Colress had the Explosion Metagross. You weren't kidding guys, it's hilariously stupid. Need a party that stands up to everything on the way to 50 and can make Colress appear? Here it is.
-Leftovers + Aqua Ring = Leech Seed = Endless recovery, endless stall. Beware.
-I didn't see many Ice leads. Instead, many of them were going all across the board, and every now and then would either be a Pokémon that Mimikyu wouldn't dent, a Pokémon with a move SE against it, a combination of both, or no counter lead at all. Maybe it's more different when M-Mence leads... but I'd rather stick with a Mimikyu lead if I'm going to 200.
-I was very lucky in a match, too. Was victim of DTeam bullshit, but thankfully was minor and hilarious (Round 38)
-Got my run-ins with celebrity streak enders Bette and Tamah at rounds 43 and 44. In less than 6 turns Mimikyu destroyed them both 3-1 and 3-0, respectively.
-I had to wait until round 47 for the legendaries to come out. Yay? This is were I got frozen a second time, but the RNG was somehow merciful. Fucking freeze, how does it work. Also, I got the best Black Belt. Hm!
-Number of Veterans encountered: 0
-Number of Scientists with Trick Room encountered: 3
-Number of Rotoms encountered: 2
-Number of matches with legendaries: 1

Good luck to everyone else and don't give up!

>>31311075
Screw super singles and super doubles, tose are easy. How the fuck are you even supposed to get the super multi stamp though? Your allied AI is fucking retarded no matter who you scout, so you end up having to go 1v2 for 50 straight battles

Made it to 30 in Super Singles on my first go, then lost to Grimsley.
What item do people run on mimikyu?
I think i fucked myself with Red Card but I didn't have anything else.

>>31312433
>losing to grimsley

Lum berry or sash.

>>31312444
I'm sure I'm not the first.
Thanks anon

What's going to be the best doubles setup once the bank opens up?

help me finish lads:
kartana, toxapex, ______
right now it's hydreigon but he's a little lacking in the damage department

>>31312535
>hydreigon but he's a little lacking in the damage department
give him choice specs then?

>>31312558
right now he has a life orb, i like his flexibility to be able to switch moves without having to switch to toxapex who slowly stalls enemies to death. switching back into hyd is risky

>Wally in battle 20, 30 and 40
Please leave me alone.

>two of my pokemon weak to fire
>the one that resists fire is weak to electric
>its most reliable option for both fire and electric is earthquake
>Rotom-Heat

its over

>>31311075
I would really appreciate some tips or suggestions for Super Doubles Teams, anything would be great

>>31312880
Porygon 2
Choose a Tapu
Choose a Mega
Choose a Support

>Lost at Multi Battles no 18

You're a useless piece of shit Plumeria

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>veteran sends out Cresselia
>taunt it with koko for the hell of it
>stops toxic
>Literally has no attack moves
>Struggles itself to death for the rest of the match

Bless you taunt.

>>31312969
Whats a cresselia gonna do anyway, Psychic anyone to death?

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>>31312978
What floating lunar ducks are known for. Stalling!

>>31312423
Does it count if you play co-op because I'm planning on making a team and making my sister use half. We managed to get to 20 with my trained Tapu Koko and Mega Fug and she used her in game Raichu and a Mimikyu I gave her.

>>31312822
>This video cannot be made public

Why?

Anyway, it was my Ribombee, Minior, and M-Scizor against Exeggutor, Rotom-Heat, and Magmortar. Exeggutor went down in one with Ribombee, I tried to switch in Minior to deal with Rotom but Thunderbolt was a OHKO. Brought Ribombee back in and thought I was making a miracle comeback because I got paralyzed while quiver dancing and managed to get off 3 moonblasts without getting stopped by paralysis once, thanks to focus sash and his overheat missing once. It had a sliver left when Ribombee went down and M-Scizor bullet punched it. Then Magmortar came out.

Magmortar is always was kills me. I hate this fat lipped fuck.

>>31313014
I meant Megamence

I don't know what to do for Super Multi Battles, I've tried the same team as Super Doubles and didn't work (of course, what was I thinking?). What do you guys think I should do? Should I look for an AI partner or should I use myself as a partner (I have two 3DSs systems)?
I honestly can't decide which one is more boring: looking for a decent partner or playing with 2 systems

>>31313015
Hmm...2 of your pokemon have a fire weakness and 2 more of your pokemon have a rock weakness. Then there the tiny issue of your team being walled by steel types minor aside

>Glaceon's Quick claw let it move it first!
>Glaceon use Blizzard
>PorygonZ is frozen solid!

OH NO YOU DID NOT

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>>31313057
And this is why scald continues to be the best water attack. Fuck off freeze status

>>31313048
You should scout Anabel and her Legendary dogs. If it isn't Raikou, Entie, or Suicune, you fucked up your Anabel and you need to rescout her again and again and again and again and again until you get them. Then you build around her team. If she has Raikou/Entie, use a team that has water or has some sort of levitate/flying user to scare away earthquake users, ie, Salamence @Megastone with hydropump. If she has Raikou/Suicune, bring something to take down Steel and Grass types, ie. Salamence @Megastone with flamethrower.

Do not use Cynthia. She will betray you.

The main thing is, you are the support. Your ally is the main character.

AYAG-WWWW-WWW4-C7DF

Finally got my multi stamp. Red was a much better partner than I was expecting.

>When your ally uses a move that hits everyone

I wish those Niggas from DPPT like Riley were here to assist

>>31313056
I know, so I'm a little annoyed that it's always electric attacks being combined with fire-types that clinch it. When the last Magmortar got me it was because it had thunder punch for my Minior, and this time the Rotom got me. I've managed to avoid problems against Steel-types so far, even having luck getting Ribombee of all things to take care of Skarmory and Klinklang.

I was originally having tons of problems and wanted to figure out some way to change my team, but giving Ribombee a focus sash, changing one of its moves, and making it my lead was working wonderfully for a while and I got up to 35 this time. I might give it one more go before seeing if I should retool, I know I haven't even seen the worst of it yet.

>>31313124
How do you edit partner data?

>>31312880
Timid Tapu Koko @life orb
252 Spe/252 Sp. Atk/4 HP
-Protect
-Thunderbolt
-Dazzling Geam
-Discharge
+
Modest Xurxitrhee @ Air Ballon
252 Spe/252 Sp. Atk/4 HP
-Protect
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice
-Energy Ball
+ 2 other pokes of your like, in my, I went with full atk and speed adamant Salamance and full HP and atk adamant Krokodile, but you shouldn't be needing them at all.
Just Discharge with Koko and protect with Xurxithree first turn (or Dazzling Geam, if the opponent is inmune to electric), then pick up kills with the tree and abuse its ability.

>>31313015
Where's your Garchomp?

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>>31313300
In Box 8, where it's going to stay.

Do you have to actually start up a multi-battle run with the partner you've scouted and start a battle to get a chance at seeing what Pokemon they have?

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>>31313056
>tfw you realize your doubles team share more than a few weaknesses with each other after hitting 50.
>two weak to ground
>two weak to poison
>two weak to grass
>one with a quad ice weakness

In hindsight I'm surprised it all works out somehow.

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>79 doubles matches with easy 10th battle trainers
>HE finally appears again after a long hiatus

So be it...

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>Tree uses gen 4 version of Cynthia's theme

>>31313369
yes, but they will only use two of their pokemon, not all

>>31313758
That's annoying. I'd like it if there was a person you could talk to that let you check the Pokemon summaries of the people you've scouted before starting.

>>31312270
>>31312304
Nobody asked you to write a fucking essay

>>31313780
And no one asked you to reply to it. Let the anon have his fun.

>>31313780
I enjoyed reading it.

>>31313793
no

>>31313780
Not my fault most detailed strategies require a lot of words. Sure, it looks like a Smogon-tier post, but it gives plenty of help and evidence on how the Tree works. After all, the point of these threads is to...

>Discuss strategies, post Battle Videos, get help with team building, and most importantly, remember to git gud

>>31313780
>discuss strategies

I decided to do regular singles for shits n giggles and this was the first battle
F3EG-WWWW-WWW4-C9EY
I swear the regular modes have more hacks moments than super.

>>31313780
kys shitposter

What kind of trainer class do you encounter on higher levels i get beat around where elite trainers appear.

>>31313993
It starts repeating but the early route trainers classes start having pocket legends everywhere.

>>31311136
USCG-WWWW-WWW4-C9ZD
enjoy

>>31313898
why charjabug? noticed it was shiny though, nice

Are there any online speed calculators? I want something that lets me see what exactly I'm mising out on by pulling some speed EVs out to bulk up to a specific benchmark.

up you go

>Use MegaMawile
>Easy sweepings for 20 rounds on BT

wew mawile-chan calm down.

>>31316598
Careful anon...getting cocky can backfire

What was the recommended Primarina set for the Tree?
I remember reading about it on a previous thread but I forgot to take notes.

>>31316863
Here's mine...but mainly put 128 in both defense/special attack. Heck go for modest if you want to.

Primarina (F) @ Assault Vest
EVs: 252 HP / 120 Def / 138 SpA
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Psychic
- Scald
- Energy Ball

>>31316882
>(F)
kek

side note: you might want to swap psychic to ice beam if you can deal with poison types with like EQ

>>31317072
I've got my 3 battle stamps already senpai. Learned the hard way that psychic coverage is overall better for coverage when encountering poison types. Got answers to all ground/dragon/flying types not named gliscor too

>>31317101
wasn't directly advising you, just a note
works for my team better

>>31314149
4 EVs =1 Spd point... Google serebii speed list

>>31314149
Speed tiers for the Tree AI opponents can be found at http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-tree-discussion-thread-leaderboard-eventually.3587215/page-26#post-7144365 - not automatic but you should be able to compare your speed numbers with them.

Note that sets 3 and 4 are most common after battle 40, so Aerodactyl-1 is not a relevant foe, for example.

>>31313115
Scouting the Cynthia that mega evolves lucario makes a pretty good partner. But if she brings garchomp then yeah she'll betray you.

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>tree doubles with dat framerate
send help

Just beat Blue in Super Doubles:
PS7G-WWWW-WWWW-CDZ9

I can post my team if people are interested, but I'd imagine the monsters are pretty standard. I will say that I had almost zero trouble and only really struggled with a couple Veteran/Ace fights in the 40's. So that was awesome. Now I just have to get through Multis and I'm done.

>>31317400
>Cynthia betrays you.
I think we get it anon, her Garchomp EQs in your face.

Does Blue use any illegal mons? The game won't let me upload my super doubles battle against him.

>>31312423

You need Colress with his Megagross.

>tfw you never know where to start to build a team
Hyper training means you don't have to breed for IVs now right?

>>31317979
Yeah, but it also means you have to grind everything up to Lv 100, it'll be quicker to just ask someone for a 6iv Ditto and breed.

I'm 90 Battles into Super Singles and I can't find any decent partners for Multi. Should I just use my second 3DS and my Sun version to beat it myself using my Doubles team?

>>31318015
Use two Megas and two Z-Items for overkill instead of your regular doubles team.

>>31318038
Is that allowed?

>>31318065
Yes, in Multis you're playing with two players each with two Pokémon and Mega/Z restrictions (and item/species clauses) apply to each player independently.

>>31318065
Red and Blue do that to you with Mega evolutions. And it's 2 games so 2 players so yes, it is allowed.

>>31318088
>>31318089
Fuck Yeah! I'm going to tear them a new asshole. What do you guys suggest? Megamence and Megagross?

>>31317979
You really don't need perfect IVs for Battle Tree. You can easily get by with good natures and EV training, and moderate knowledge of how to build a team (coverage, roles, etc.)

Also to acknowledge that you will get beaten by bullshit on multiple occasions, stuff like status conditions, critical hits and nonsensical team choices from the AI. You just gotta keep on truckin' until you get a result that you're happy with.

Hows my team for Super singles?
Porygon-z@ normalium-Z
Ability: adaptability
252 satk 252 spd 4 def
Ice beam
Tri attack
Conversion
Protect/recover

Garchomp@ life orb
Ability: rough skin
252 atk 252 spd 4 hp
Earthquake
Outrage
Swords dance
Iron head

Mega metagross
Bullet punch
Meteor mash
Zen headbutt
Hammer arm

I havent tested this team in the tree itself yet.

Same poster from above.
Would focus sash on garchomp be better or a lum berry for status moves?
Even thinking about just putting thunderbolt on porygon and using tapu koko instead of garchomp.

>>31318267
Prepare to lose early and often because of Metagross having moves without 100 accuracy

>>31317590
This so much

I hope Stars is a thing because I would love doubles with a good frame rate and triples if that is a thing again.

>>31318267
Change tri attack to T-bolt then put tbolt pn first slot


Being electric type grants immunity to the hundreds of twavers in tree

>>31318377
You say that like meteor mash and zen headbutt miss all the time. I mean even play rough van miss and it has 90 acc.

I had like hammer arm miss 2 times in a row, Worse with meteor mash.

Not that megagross is bad, but it need better moves

>>31318430
>-10 accuracy isn't a big deal
Haven't spent much time in the tree yet, have you?

>>31313124
>>31313231
I'd like to know this aswell.

>>31314080
Not shiny, it was the Luxury Ball animation.

>>31311465
lum berry always

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>Do doubles with dragonite
>Enemy 2 use flatter
> Dragonite is now confused and ate the Lum Berry
>Enemy 1 (Breloom) used spore!
> Dragonite is now asleep

>>31311075
I know its not exactly battle tree related but I want some advice from you guys.
I'm currently trying to do the ORAS battle maison and my curent team is Calm,competitive Milotic With scald,recover,toxic and ice beam, Timid Gardevoir-Mega with Hyper voice, psyshock,thunderbolt and shadow ball, And finally Arcanine With Extreme speed, Flare Blitz, Close Combat and Outrage.
Should I change anything? I know that I could used the mega mom technique but that sounds boring and I never really liked kangeskan really.

>>31318903
My curent replacement mons are, Roserade,Gyrados,Fearow,Lucario,Charizard XY,Bellossom,Gallade,Lapras,Beedrill,Lopunny,Vileplum,Ursaring,Houndoom,Infernape,Stoutland,Furfrou,Ninetail,Mightyena,Manectric,Grandbull,Delphox and Mesprit.

>>31318903
I feel like marvel scale Milotic would get more mileage

>>31311075
Best team on Super Singles so far for me has been

Porygon-Z - Modest @ Normalium Z
Hyper Beam- (It takes out any pokemon that doesnt use protect resists normal type attacks or has focus sash, should be used has a main )
ThunderBolt
Shadow Ball
Ice Beam

Metagross - Adamant @ Metagrossite
Hammer Arm
Zen Headbutt
Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch

Dragonite (Multiscale) - Adamant @ Lum Berry
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Fire Punch

i just got 57 win - streak today with this team. this team was taken from a youtuber you can check it out to see if you like it or not .
its also the first time i got over 50 wins
so its really good if u just want to get to a 50 win streak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AyoQ3pwhug

>>31318966
Probably but that particular Milotic was a wonder trade shiny that ended up serving me well a couple times so I feel its worth it. And the fact that its also bulky and learns recover with leftovers has also worked well for me.

whos tried the focus sash gengar meme? is it worth it?

>>31319125
What's the meme?

>>31317337
Thank you, this is exactly what I was looking for.

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>>31316598
>Mega-Mawile
>Sun and Moon

>>31319145
gengar outspeeding and two shotting the first pokemon, then if its weak you destiny bond the second pokemon leaving you with 2 pokemon vs the ai's 1 pokemon

>>31318968
Wouldn't Conversion be better than Shadowball? You'd be able to sweep with Porygon or use the Hyper Beam as a finisher, depending on the situation

>>31319285
Z-Conversion is like the only reason to use porygon

>>31316607
>>31319238
It won't be possible once pokebank is out?

>>31319443
Mawile sure but we have no idea what GF is planning with the unobtainable megastones.

>>31319443
You can get any pokemon in SM if you inject them.
1-20 isn't really hard, but a lot of the hard hitters will arrive at 40+. It's nice to be careful since death looms at any round like 7, 39 , 68 whatever.

>>31319285
>>31319354
Honestly i dont know i just saw the guy´s team thought it was fun and got to 57 first try but u can try that if u want

Been running this on Doubles:

Marowak-Alola @ Thick Club
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Flame Charge
- Shadow Bone
- Bonemerang

Ninetales-Alola @ Light Clay
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Blizzard
- Moonblast
- Freeze-Dry
- Aurora Veil

Porygon-Z @ Normalium Z
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Blizzard
- Tri Attack
- Conversion

Toxapex @ Black Sludge
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Scald
- Haze
- Toxic
- Recover

I was doing great but I lost at 36 streak due to a really bad decision the first turn, loosing both Ninetales and Marowak leads, then trying to recover from the fuckup I noticed that Toxapex was never useful. What mon do you recommend to replace it with? I have trouble with steel types and earthquakes mostly, some anon suggested Scizor but I'm not into that Poke too much.

So how many mons do I need to beat to fully EV train without the power item? Also what Pokemon is best for each stat?

>>31319631
>Marowak-Alola @ Thick Club
>EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

Speed EVs on a pokemon with nonexistent base speed? Wouldn't HP just be better?

>>31319704
I outspeed a whole lot of mons after a Flame Charge, this has been working for me a lot so far.

>>31319667
>without the power item?
get the power items.

pokemon defeated gives 1 ev

without power item:
1 ev from pokemon. x2 multiplier if the pokemon was defeated during a s.o.s chain. x2 multiplier if the pokemon earning the values is infected with pokerus. for a maximum possibility of 4 evs for each pokemon. This means if you want to max a stat (252 evs) you need to knock out 63 pokemon

with power item
pokemon gives 1 ev. +8 evs if the pokemon earning the evs is holding a power item, x2 multiplier if the pokemon was defeated during a s.o.s chain. x2 multiplier if the pokemon earning the values is infected with pokerus. This method gives you 36 evs per pokemon which means you only need to knock out 7 pokemon to earn 252 evs in a stat.

>>31319667
Use UBs and Tapus to get BPs and trade for those power items if you have shitmons, it's a torture doing it otherwise, even if you are watching Netflix in the meantime or doing something else. Pokerus + Power Item or nothing.

>>31319704
you want to outspeed alolan muk, thats for sure

>>31319667
why not just use the island? you start on wednesday and your mons are ready for the weekend.

So, which trainers should I scout for multi battles? I heard a certain breeder is good but idk their name.
For now I only recruited Cynthia, YA BOI and maybe Wally

>>31319667
Pokerus+power item=7 kills in a SOS chain for 1 stat
Takes 20-25 mins max, depending on SOS call RNG

>>31319991
Meant 20-25 mins to fully train a pokemon, not just one stat.

>>31319811
>>31319991
What? Did they change power items?

>>31320013
yea, they give +8 instead of +4

>>31320013
not sure about previous gens but now it's +8 EVs whenever you gain them

>hotel internet is too shit to work on 3ds
>can't evolve porygon
fucking trade evos reeeeee

Im just a lazy fucker who trains at Pokepelago

>>31320113
It's a useful tool when you have shit to do

>>31320075
Use connectify on PC or phone hotspot

I thought I could finally have some fun with the post game in a Pokémon game but I can't even get past an 8 streak on SS.

How do I stop being a huge scrub?

>>31320761
Start using Mimikyu and UBs.

>>31320761
>>31320840
Pretty much this. Grab Pokemon you hate to see used against you. The tree will not play fair

i really am starting to hate this game and the battle tree more than should be reasonable.

two fucking streaks killed in the late 40s in a row because of stupid bullshit.

>>31320840
>>31321107
So basically, Mimikyu and all the Legendaries that aren't banned + hope for some good luck?

>get horribly cteamed turn 1, saved by trace
>mfw turn 2
>mfw the vaporeon
>win somehow by getting a lucky miss from the opponent

86VW-WWWW-WWW4-D378

fuck ice moves

>Just want to scout Guzma using mega pinsir
>Keep getting him with Focus Miss Toxicroak

J U S T

>>31321537
>all goes well for a bit
>vaporeon
>freeze hax
>deep freeze hax
Karma is a bitch

>>31321582
It's amazing how much easier things would be if we could actually select what pokemon and items the multis partners could use from their pool.

>>31319667

Just use Pelago for the initial batch.

>>31316863

Primarina @ Wide Lens or Zoom Lens
In-game plathrough IVs, one of the four neutral natures.
-Scald
-Hydro Pump
-Moonblast
-Sing

Laugh now fuckers. This thing is a devastating lead when paired with Dragon Dance Kommo-o and Mega Metagross. Great synergy for a 3-man team.

>>31318429

Is that how Z-Conversion works? Your first attack is the type you convert to?

Also I've heard that when the AI undoubtedly starts to counterteam you, they'll start sending out a lot of Fighting or Ghost type leads to try to counter Porygon-Z. I've heard using Z-Conversion with Shadow Ball to become Ghost type is a good way to cheese wins because the AI won't know how to handle it.

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>>31322327
>hydro pump
>sing
>wide/zoom lens

That's cute anon. Real cute.

>>31321181

This goes for me to, I wreck every 10th boss but get wrecked by this gimmicky, cheap bastards in the 35-49 range.

Defeated Wally while trying my new Porygon-Z/Mimikyu/M-Slowbro team. It's working wonders, so far.

7Z3G-WWWW-WWW4-D4ZQ

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>scouted officer rendor
>his mons are fightium z arcanine and fake out firium z salazzle
finally someone who's not complete garbage for multis
his funny comment before starting is also nice

>>31322519
Post that team

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>run trick room in super doubles
>mfw I run into a trick room scientist
They've ended my last two 40+ streaks

>>31322680
This is the exact reason I put taunt on my koko. Stop that shit before it even begins.

Three. Mother fucking THREE fucking god damn mother fucking streaks into the 40s. All fucking dead. I'm so tired of this shit ass game and this shit ass game mode. I don't know what the fuck to do differently. I really fucking don't. I can't account for fucking everything with a three Pokemon fucking team.

>>31322703
I'd like it on my oranguru but it would mean dropping protect and I really don't want to

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>>31322680
>run trick room team in super doubles
>encounter trick room scientist
>win because my trick room is just outright better

I need a good non-mega physical attacker with decent priority. Can anyone recommend anything? This is for Super Doubles. My current team is M-Alakazam, A-Greninja, A-Marowak, and AV azumarill

>>31322892
weavile gets fake out and is pretty strong, slap a sash on it and it's golden

>>31322892
oh and golisopod
seriously golisopod is incredibly underrated, especially in battle tree. it's ability is generally a benefit rather than a hinderance
could probably fit it over azumarill

>>31322858
The last one was so stacked against me, it was a trick room audino/chandelure last against my oranguru/alolan marowak lead. It kept making perfect reads to keep trick room down so I had to switch out marowak for bewear to absorb shadow ball and it unveils Z-fireblast audino to murder my bewear and a rhyperior finished my marowak and vikavolt.
Now that I've bred a drampa and trick room primarina I can finally get rid of that rock weakness, vikavolt used to be my only trick room special attacker

>>31322892
Arcanine is pretty cool for intimidate in doubles. It gets E-Speed.

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>>31321707
>It's amazing how much easier things would be if we could actually select what pokemon and items the multis partners could use from their pool.
Just inject it :^)

>>31322940
vikavolt is honestly pretty terrible, even in trick room
he's just too squishy to really do much outside of TR, and even in it he's still very underwhelming

When is it even a good time to use volt switch in singles

In b4 never

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>>31322972
I could but I already be all 3 modes already...but fuck multis

>>31322979
But specs gives it a lot of power and volt switch sure is handy. Does get walled a lot by the tree's counter-team shenanigans however so it has to go. Now I can bring back alolan golem which I absolutely love.

>>31322983
When you outspeed but can't kill the enemy, or when you can tank a hit and want to get something in totally fresh, or when you predict a switch to a non ground type (not that battletree trainers ever do that).

>>31322983
when you wanna switch but also wanna attack
when you wanna get something that has difficulty ever switching in to deal some damage, assuming volt will KO
when your mon is slower and you wanna chip the opp a little before you switch to your other mon
when you have choice specs and don't wanna risk KOing a mon only to have the next thing be electric immune and body your mon

So I just bred myself a wishiwashi for trick room super doubles, I gave it hydro pump, ice beam, protect, and endeavor (45 base HP). It gets no moves but that's what I came up with, what is really best?

>>31322917
I'll try it out, is this moveset ok?
Ice Punch (100% acc)
Throat Chop
Fake Out
Brick Break

>>31322936
I tried Golisopod but most of the time I faced pokemon that resisted First Impression and would do >50% before it could attack. Thanks though

>>31322960
I'll try it out. Do you recommend any sets for it? I feel like a mixed set could work. Maybe with a Z-crystal?

>>31323016
specs honestly isn't very helpful, you'd be better off with LO considering it's coverage options are surprisingly potent
drampa will just be outright better though, bulkier, great typing and thanks to it's ability can easily sweep in doubles

>>31323065
i'd go for low kick or poison jab over brick break, fairies are never fun to fight so having a way to consistently beat them is likely more helpful

>>31323076
How do you run that? Dragon pulse, protect, hyper voice, and a flavor move based on the rest of your team? It gets so many great TM moves.

>>31323045
Inner focus/Telepathy Oranguru or Mimikyu can setup Trick Room
Wishiwashi can protect on that turn and then blow things up with its Water STAB. The rest is up to you, i recommend Ice Beam and HP Grass for certain Pokemon like Seismitoad/Gastrodon

>>31314080
As i said it was normal singles, i just trained up the toucannon so i didnt really care about the rest of my team. Which is also why i didnt just switch out even though i could have prevented 10 turns of that stall shit.

anyone have any good suggestion teams for doubles/multis that can get me my stamps? much appreciated!!!!

>>31323125
pulse and voice are obvious, protect maybe less so since sometimes it'd be more beneficial to take the hit and activate your ability
flamethrower is a good safe bet since it'll take out steel types that'd want to wall, but since you have alolawak you could try covering for something that would definitely fuck your shit up otherwise
what that'd be i have no clue, you'd just need to find out what the tree fucks you over with (or almost does)

>it's a roost/double team spamming zapdos episode again
>no guard
>tap stone edge

Fuck off evasion hax

MPZW-WWWW-WWW4-D5PE

And with that, I'm done with Multis (thank fuck) and done with getting all three of my super stamps.

Is there a way to get the special trainer music unlocked for the tree or for online use (the BW E4 theme, or Cynthia's theme for example).

>>31323201
Every item do you typically run? Life orb seems like an easy choice but with berserk needing its health low already it sounds dangerous.

>>31323351
What item*

>>31323351
that's the risk you take with LO really
what item is bewear and oranguru?
if neither are LO then it's actually a good choice for drampa, in fact LO could end up activating the ability for you in some cases without much worry

>>31323271
>2 mega leads
>intimidate
>both dragon dance leads

Fuck I'd be scared to death of that.

Grats on finally being free from mulits hell and the tree in general....though doubles is fun

>>31323380
I'd have been scared if it wasn't for Colress, dude was a champ the whole way through.

And I love doubles but Multi is just too much bullshit for me. I've seen enough quick claw Explosions.

>>31323065
I personally have been using
Arcanine @ Mago Berry
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 HP / 148 Def / 36 SpA / 12 SpD / 60 Spe
Bold Nature
- Flamethrower
- Will-O-Wisp
- Snarl/Helping Hand
- Protect/Morning Sun
Which is just the Smogon Battlespot bulky utility set. I imagine that changing the Sp.Atk EVs to Atk ones, the Nature to Impish and adjusting Flamethrower to Flare Blitz and either Will-o-Wisp or Helping Hand to E-Speed would work well enough. If you want full offensive you could replace something with Close Combat as well at which point I'd probably move some of the HP EVs to Speed.

>>31323376
Bewear is typically life orb but occasionally I'll give it a Z crystal when I get fucked over by evasion too much. With drampa on my team I would probably drop bewear though, I don't need to double up on fighting and fairy weakness

>>31323376
>could end up activating the ability for you in some cases

Indirect damage doesn't trigger Berserk.

t. 50 wins in super doubles with Drampa

>>31323498
seriously? it triggers emergency exit, what makes berserk so special with it's activation?

>>31323476
with that in mind, as silly of an item as it may be, sitrus can be useful for drampa to abuse the ability. expert belt or another z crystal are also options, there would definitely be cases where one z move is worthless but the other is great

>>31322616

My team consists of that gimmicky Sing/Wide Lens Primarina posted up thread a bit, it sounds awful but the increased Hydro Pump and Sing accuracy work wonders. It's from my in-game team, rolled a female neutral natured Popplio on my first try picking it as a starter so there is some Karenfaggotry at work here. EVs are obviously all over the place but with a definite trend toward SpA and GO.

Kommo-o, also from in-game play through but got lucky with whatever nature is +Att -SpD. Had an easier time EV training this as I caught it late game, max Attack, about 200 HP and the rest in Speed. Holds Fightium Z, Dragon Dance, Sky Uppercut, EQ, Outrage.

Then a pentaperfect M-Metagross with standard STABs, Burrito, Hammer Arm. I tend to agree with the general sentiment regarding Megagross and its 90% accurate moves. Seems like once in the Battle Tree they shave off like 10-20% accuracy. I'm talking successfully hitting only 50% of the time of the hax is really bad. Say I use any one of either Zen, Meteor, or Hammer Arm four times in a match, I'll hit 2 out of 4 at worst.

I got to Battle 37 or so with this team. I'm pretty confident if I bred a new Primarina and Kommo-o it could take me all the way to 50. Maybe even considering Specs or AV Primarina instead.

Simple strat: lead with Primarina, switch the Dragon into any Electric and Grass attacks, switch Metagross into Poison types or Grass types with annoying coverage (Play Rough Tsareena anyone?).

Sing is there for neutral matchup against specially bulky pokemon so you can hopefully switch in your AoA or DD sweeper for at least one free turn.

Jellicent is probably the single most threatening pokemon for this team to face.

>>31323587
...Ok here's the thing. Relying on sing of all things to attempt a setup sweep is a terrible idea even with the accuracy boost. You want your attacks to be 100% accurate almost all the time anon. Outrage confusion can easily backfire horribly on you too.

In general your team is dangerously inaccurate.

>>31323587
switch Hammer Arm with EQ. it still hits most steel types for SE damage and it also assures you you can hit something that resists BP 100% of the time

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I'm torn between genning a Sceptile and Sceptilite and thinking that would count as cheating and that I wouldn't really "earn" the victory without alola dex mon

>>31322892
regular technician scizor is always a good choice

>>31323872
do it without bank mons. way more satisfying

I'm so done with this shit ass game mode. I'm really resorting to a fucking cookie cutter team with Mega-Mence just to beat this because i'm fucking fed up.

>>31323687

Boy do I know it. And like I said it's a combination of using two in-game mons. Now that I've farmed enough BP for AV and Specs I'll probably rebreed Primarina and Kommo-o, throw one of those 2 items on Primarina and leave Kommo-o as is except maybe swapping out Outrage for D Claw. I must admit though you kinda feel like a boss breaking 30 with 2 in-game mons.

>>31323770

I'll consider this as well.

>>31324269
Yeah, you should have done that from the start. It's hard enough with the best Pokemon you can get your hands on.

>battle 47
>lead Latias
>get off Z conversion, it's life orb physical
>do the calc, I can safely recover and then ice beam even from an EQ
>they crit
>send in mega Gyara
>DD up on the -1 Claw or whatever
>Twave
>Get para'd 4 turns in a row
>forced to lock myself into Psychic with Lele
>leaves Latias with a pixel, get para'd
>next mon is Azelf
>I needed to be crit, get para'd 4 times in a row and choose Psychic over Shadow Ball to lose

Fuck this, this is worse than Colress only exploding when it doesn't hurt them and kills you.

>>31324926
Ouch. The eng is a cruel beast

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Battle videos are confirmed kill after the recent update...

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I have a semi-bulk special sweeper. What item should I use

Eelektross @ ?
252SA ~174HP ~80SP
-Tbolt
-Flamethrower
-Gigadrain
-voltswitch (because i dont want to figure out hidden power)

I was thinking running expert belt or leftovers, dont know which

Taunt sure is helpful on top kek

>>31323566
Been thinking about it, I'd like expert belt on drampa to free up life orb for primarina. That means dropping hyper voice right? I like having that multi-target but I can just run dazzling gleam on primarina and I do have EQ on marowak

>>31325353
This. Surprised the smogon sets don't run it more. Shuts down so many mons.

>>31325413
no, hyper voice is still very useful since it's powerful normal STAB, being a spread move is also helpful

i'd recommend bonemerang on marowak instead for doubles, even though the accuracy is ass it's much better for actually scoring KOs since you aren't getting nerfed damage from spread

GTDW-WWW-WWW4-D7N2

Lost my multis run to mega mawile. Not a good start for my first 1.1 video.

Shell smash Kommo-o is kill

I'm not entirely sure where to get ideas for a team for SM. I really just dick around and don't plan on getting into super competitive smogon matches with tiers or whatever, but I still want a solid team for both the tree and random battles. I think it would be fun to have a Koko and A-Raichu to volt switch into and pelt enemies with super powered thunderbolts. Don't know where to go from there because I'm a shitlord that hasn't actually finished the postgame in any pokemon since the originals.

>>31325329
Ass Vest would be pretty good here I think.

>>31325768
kek
rip kommo-o

Mega-Lucario, LO Garchomp and Scarf'd Lele. How's this sound?

>>31325908
I like having a lum berry Pokemon around, maybe garchomp so you can spam outrage and also avoid burns

>>31325942
Who would you suggest for a lead in this scenario?

I wanna replace dragon claw with outrage on lum dragonite

Thoughts?

Seven straight hours in the tree, losing, losing, losing.. I can't fucking get anywhere now. I'm getting so tired of this i'm about to abandon it.

>>31325988
Lum berry lead is pretty nice

>Opponent's Vespiquen's Quick Claw activated
>Uses Toxic on my Garchomp
>Lum Berry doesn't activate
What did they mean by this.

>>31326140
>>31325942
What about Lum Haxorus for that matter? It gets DD and isn't 4x weak to ice like Chomp.

>>31326393
Poor dragon was too nervous to eat its berry.

>these nobodies like black belt with megas

Whatever happened to the condition that megas were supposed to be for -chosen ones-

>>31326411
Haxorus is also good and it gets taunt, I really can't overstate how good taunt can be in the tree and mold breaker too.

>>31326421
Oh okay, gotcha. I didn't know about its HA.

>>31326456
that went out the window the moment XY threw that lucario at you during the story.

Cosigning anyone who chooses erfquake instead of hammer arm on megagross

Having a non contact move is useful against stuff like cofagrogus whho gives mummy AIDS

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Should I go for physical Adamant Aegislash, or should I go with the quiet meme set featuring shadow ball that was popular in gen 6?

>taunt can't stop Z-status moves
that's good to know

>that fucking trick room bronzong
just fucking annoying

>>31326553
aegislash is a meme regardless of what set you use

>>31326553
Quiet so you don't get fucked by Burn.

>raped anabel's zimzam and latinos

Scouted

:)

need something to complete my team for super singles.
already got Megamence and Aegislash.
any recomendations?

Tapu coco
Megagross
Dragonite all did a good job to 46 and lost because meteor mash missed

>>31326689
Assvest primarina, it's the team that took me over 60

>>31326689
Tapu Fini would work well I think.

>>31326774

this one?
>>31316882

>Meet a male tourist whose fiancee is gallivanting around without him
>immediately afterwards meet a female tourist who talks about losing her inhibitions
God damn, who at gamefreak has an NTR fetish?

>>31326819
For the most part but the EVs are different, a little more defense and a little less special attack

Almost lost to some fucking Hypnosis+Dream Eater Gardevoir because Carbink set up light screen
fuck light screen

>>31326879
Literally same fucking set right after it. Atleast it missed the Hypnosis

WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE HAVE CONFIDE ON A DARMANITAN FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN TO MAKE ME MAD

>>31327055
Zen mode shenanigns

Porygon z @ normalium z
Adaptability

Shadow ball
Thunderbolt
Ice beam
Conversion

A-Greninja @Nothing

Water shuriken
Scald
Ice beam
Acrobatics

M-Scizor @scizorite
Technician

X scissor
Iron smash
Double hit
Bullet punch

This got me to 13 on SS. I fucked up not paying attention to what I was doing a lost to a double team porygon2 that froze hacked my scizor.

Any recommendations for greninja here? He seems to kill thinks with acrobatics

who are the common trick room abusers in the tree outside of dusknoir and bronzong?

>>31327143
whats your scizor ev set up?

Is Porygon with Z-conversion good even when he doesn't lead? Currently running Gengar as lead and he's doing fine

>>31311178
>JOLLY MINIOR
STOP
STOPSTOPSTOP

>>31327405
oranguru

>>31327423
nah, porygon should be a lead. gengar is also an amazing lead though

>>31327435
i meant that the ai uses. do they use oranguru too?

>>31322972
How do you do it with PkHex tho?

>partner has 2 fake outs
epic

>enemy tyranitart DDs twice in a row
WORRY

Im gonna use mega salamence and magnezone, what should be my third pokemon?

>>31327442
yeah guess i'll run pory in doubles instead
i really like this sash gengar meme

>passed 30 on Super Singles
god damn Porygon Z has been putting in work
Golisopod and Marowak aren't slacking either

Can a Z-Move and Mega evolution be used during the same battle?

>>31327566
Something with either a Z-Move that can OHKO Zapdos and other Double Team users or at least with no miss attacks.

>>31327750
yep

>>31327750
Yes.

>>31327566
>>31327755

Consider something with No Guard for that or http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Keen_Eye_(Ability)

What Pokemon are just taunt-bait generally?


low offense, high bulk like Cradily and Carbink?

>>31327818
Any scientist since most of their mon have trickroom

Z-Moves are Game freak's poor excuse to program a decent special fighting attack thats not focus blast.

Also, does a Xurkitree need to be timid or modest when partnered with Koko

>>31327918
they actually stated that it's a better alternative to mega evolution, which I agree with

>>31327918
Having two elecs like that seems risky. Timid would be better since the aim would be to play off the terrain for that dmg boost.
Also consider Bulu to basically give the tree no weakness.

if my scizor is holding steelium z and uses bullet punch, its no longer a priority move>

>>31328057
no shit if youre using the z-move

>>31328057
Yes, the Z-Move on damaging attacks replaces the original move completely, retaining none of its effects and going at +0 priority.

>>31328025
poison?

>>31328094
You could have a Toxipex in the back or a steel type (but then double fire weakness)

Should I use my 5 IV / "Fantastic" sp. attack Minior or my 5 IV / "Very good" defense one. I'm running a mixed set with power gem

best item to give tapu bulu to hold?

Best people to scout familia?

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>>31325768
>>31325903
>turn out the shell smash is an error

JUST

>The patch made all 1.0 replays unavailable
REEEEEE

>>31325329
>figure out
As in deal with breeding for it or as in youre actually too retarded to either:
>fight pokemon with a specific typing
>if its "Effective", immediately run away or just kill it - you dont even need to use Eelektrik for this

>since Tynamo cannot learn HP, you can literally just
>ask
>the person
>next to
>the breeding counter

>>31328393
choice band is the most popular

>>31328505
Wally, Cynthia, Colress

Mega Gallade with Garchomp or Magnezone for Wally

Mega Lucario with Garchomp for Cynthia

Mega Metagross with Porygon 2, Z, or Magnezone for Colress

That's the general consensus

Anabel has a Mega lucario/Latios and her beasts but she's rare as fuck to actually encounter

>Shell Smash Komo-o is unintentional

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn599R0ZBwg

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Recommend me a team for Doubles and Royal.

>>31328717
Did anyone scout a trainer who used Shell Smash Kommo-o in Multis, before the update?

If so, did the Kommo-o's move change as a Multi partner after the update?

>>31328543
if the pokemon can't learn hidden power she just says that they can't learn it and refuses to use her magic IV-checking power to determine it. example: use a magikarp.

Is Fini the best taunt user for the tree?

Just starting to find out how incredible shutting down stall pokemon are

>>31329408
I thought good taunt users were fast or pranksters

>>31329503

Reserved bread