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ORETACHI WA MOTTO MOTTO TSUYOKU! IKUZO GEKKOUGA!!!!!!!

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ORETACHI WA MOTTO MOTTO TSUYOKU! IKUZO GEKKOUGA!!!!!!!
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>>31300957
MIZU SHURIKEN
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BURASTO
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BURASTO BAAAAAAAN
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H-HE'S FAST!
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>>31300987
252+ SpA Charizard-Mega-X Blast Burn vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Greninja-Ash: 178-210 (62.4 - 73.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja-Ash Hydro Pump vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Charizard-Mega-X: 348-411 (117.1 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
MOTTO MOTTO
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>>31301022
BURASTOzard was a fucking tank though
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>>31301035
And Greninja was not
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>>31301022
>Greninja trains with Chad Kantocock/Chicken Chan and becomes able to defeat MegaZard X
really activates the old brain cells.
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>>31300981
BURESUTO
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>>31301046
>Kantocock/Chicken just needs him to throw a water shuriken to transform

Is there anything Chicken and Kantocock can't do
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>>31301079
portray a wide range of emotion
the most emotive they get is in the Guardians of Alola Z-Move when they order the Tapu to crush the enemy.
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>>31301022
You're assuming max levels here. The game all but tells us Ash's Greninja was severely underleveled against Alan's Charizard.
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What does TSUYOKU mean?
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>>31301079
Is Chad Kantocock Sun? Because that name is fucking brilliant.
>>31301043
2 DURAGON KUROUS should have killed any set, but Zard-X should have been dead before the 2nd one, unless you literally count everytime it hits the ground as Roost
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>>31301119
>Is Chad Kantocock Sun?
Yes
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>>31301052
kinda surprised i don't see this pun posted more often, is /vp/ just not /m/an enough?
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>>31301123
>XY quality animation.jpg
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>>31301111
Maybe, but what about Pikachu? That damn mouse solo'd a Tyranitar AND a Metagross. Two super effective Thunderbolts coming from that should hurt.
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>>31301139
>smear frame

SMfags show once again that they're retards
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>>31301128
Somewhat. A good amount of posters in /padt/ have admitted Pokemon is the only anime they have watched.
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>>31301175
I was making a funny anon, but thanks for showing how insecure you animeshitters are, particularly you XYfags.
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>>31301172
Been through this. Ash's Pikachu has this wierd quirk where it's thunderbolt power is directly linked to its emotional state. This was shown in the snowy forest episode where Pikachu's thunderbolt didn't really do damage to Team Rocket when it was worried about Ash and his depression. At this point, Pikachu was exhausted from carrying his team.
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>>31301172
i asumed Ash's Pikachu doesn't have Light Ball, because we never see it.
252+ SpA Pikachu Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Charizard: 158-188 (43.8 - 52.2%) -- 14.5% chance to 2HKO
Even with 2 min rolls, it should die to the next attack it takes.
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>>31301043
>BLASTO BAAN
>not BURASUTO BAAN
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>>31301175
>SM boogeyman

Why are you niggers so insecure? Every single ashime season was garbage
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>>31301035
>TWO Thunderbolt
I made this http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7customgame-503402351 to check how bullshit that battle was, but now I see was even worse. Alan confirmed to be the worse cheater ever
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>>31301290
Nice projecting
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>>31301307
>jumps at every opportunity to cry about "SMfags" when anyone insults his garbage show
>y-you're projecting

lmaoing at your life
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>>31301307
You're not doing a very good job of taking the high road after getting assblasted about someone making an obvious joke comment about an obvious joke screenshot.
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>>31301339
>stuttering meme

>>31301347
>responding twice
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>>31301362
sho sho, frog poster
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>>31301298
>he thinks vidya logic works in the animu
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>>31301362
>it's not possible more than one person thinks I'm acting retarded, it must be samefag
>i'll post pepe to show how not rustled I am
You're really not doing a good job of proving you're not insecure.
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>>31301362
>frog meme
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>>31301395
>being this mad because I called you a retard for not understanding what a smear frame was
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Ash lost, but the battle was still one of the best ever. Stop being so damn butthurt.
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>>31301373
>>31301411
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>>31301424
Just stop dude. All you're doing here is proving to people that XYfags are whiny babies who can't even take the lowest level banter.
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>>31301424
>He still thinks it's just one guy
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i miss hype ash
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>>31301298
>Equal level
Make Zard level 200 and then we'll talk.
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>>31301636
Well, if you want to really stretch it far the Demo Ashninja is only level 36.

That really doesn't make any sense to me though, Greninja evolved after Olympia's Gym. Between there and the league I doubt he didn't get to at least like level 45 or some shit.

But the correct answer as usual is probably "why are you applying game logic to the animu"
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What is even the point of super ebin ultra synchro bond greninja if he cant defeat a weakened charizard x.
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>>31301672
Whatever level chokefrog was, Zard was better. By a long shot.
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>>31301687
I wonder how many 10 year old kids who started with BW or XY were just like "fuck this noise" after SM started.

I'm not baiting btw. I'm not really making a comment on SM's quality here, more the idea that if you were a 10 year old kid watching this cartoon, you'd probably be looking forward to more adventures of Ash and his buddy super frog. Instead he just releases it for a really contrived reason and then goes on a island vacation and never mentions him again.
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>>31301687
>What is even the point of super ebin ultra synchro bond greninja if he cant defeat a weakened charizard x.
How about defeating literally everything? Just because it lost to Zard doesn't mean it was pointless. It won against literally everyone except Diantha and Zard.
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I still can't decide if Ash releasing Greninja was one of the smartest or dumbest writing decisions they ever made.
It's smart because the likelyhood they'll ever come back to Greninja is pretty much 0 so it's a good decision to at least attempt some closure while they still can.
It's dumb because...well, pretty much everything else.
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>>31301748
So he lost when it actually mattered?
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>>31301842
It also mattered in literally every match of the league. Like against Shota. And he won all of them. Greninja did more than Infernape and Charizard did combined.
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>>31301871
>It also mattered in literally every match of the league
Doesn't matter, because he lost anyway

>Greninja did more than Infernape and Charizard did combined.

Greniggers believe thid
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>>31301871
Well, that's because they skipped all the matches where other team members got their starring moment aside from 5 seconds of Hawlucha defeating the magically transforming Absol. Greninja had two important matches shown in the league and he won one and lost one. Pikachu was the real star.

Damn it, every time I think about the matchups they could've had if they let Ash pull his old guard out it reminds me how much of a wasted opportunity this league was. No Infernape coming back to get a Legendary kill in his repertoire, no Unovashitters getting redeemed, no Sceptile/Charizard mirror matches.
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>>31301812
It would have a higher chance of coming back if """""released"""" (he still has its pokeball) since shit like Lapras, Goodra and Charizard weren't oaked and showed up again. Plus with the Zygarde shit in the games they could easily bring Zygarde back together with Greninja if they ever wanted it.
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>>31301672
Demo Ashninja is 36 because you are supposed to transfer it to the game, 36 is the lowest level Greninja can be so you can use it in your SM run as soon you complete Akala. Give you Greninja at level... idk, 65? wouldn't have allowed you enjoy use Greninja in your Island Challenge
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>>31301924
>it's a shitnaughtfag
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>>31301924
>Doesn't matter, because he lost anyway
He won more than he lost. He got Ash the closest to winning he ever did. More than I can say for the monkeybrain and shitzard.

>>31301947
They didn't show them, but they happened. Greninja helped Ash rank second. Compare that to the 4th he got with the ape and the fucking 8th and 16th that shitzard got him. Greninja was the best.
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>>31301996
What?
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>>31301871
Infernape with the help of Ash and the rest of his team was able to defeat the trainer who viewed him as weak, the trainer who released him but somehow did less than Greninja?
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>>31302035
Yes. Beating a Team B of a single trainer and saving entire Kalos region aren't even comparable.
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>>31302035
Are infernapetards really this delusional? Ash-greninja fought opponents with powerlevel way beyond anything Paul had. Infernape got OHKO right before the league by fucking Flint's Infernape using mach punch. Ash-greninja kept up with a champion's Mega ace. Fucking Shota would rape Paul for the simple reason that he had a mega.

Powerlevel in DP was way lower than in XY. It's just a fact. That's why Tobias swept everything.
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>>31301981
I mean, Zygarde really had 0 relevance in SM's story, it was just a gopher quest to make up for Zygarde not getting his own game. I think the Flare Arc with Zygarde complete forme was pretty much the marketing it got for its appearance in SM.

I could be wrong of course, but SM doesn't really seem like its going for the sort of tone that would encourage a return of Greninja, at least not for anything important.
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>>31302017
Infernape beat Paul.

Memefrog couldn't beat burasto ban and lost two times.
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>>31302048
>Greninja saved Kalos
>Mega Charizard X and Alain did literally 70%of the work
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>>31302017
>They didn't show them, but they happened. Greninja helped Ash rank second.
See I'm not sure I can really buy the "it happened off-screen" excuse and raw placement for judgment, because by that logic Cameron is as good as DP Ash.
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>>31302079
The anime doesn't follow the game's story completely. I just said if they wanted to (desperate attempt to boost ratings, planned to come back all along or some shit) they could easily do it. And I wouldn't be surprised if Zygarde got a much bigger role in the next game. Plus Greninja is the most popular pokemon atm and TPC wants to milk that frog.
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>>31302075
You mean the battle where M-Voir did little to nothing just to see their strength when a direct Shadow Ball or Moon Blast would have creamed Ash-Greninja?
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>>31302075
>Ash-greninja kept up with a champion's Mega ace.

And fucking lost again
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>>31302137
No, the battle where it Ash-Greninja cut through her Shadow Balls and was so fast that Gardevoir didn't even have time to attack.
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>>31302100
>Ash did the most shit against Lysandre
>Ash and Greninja were the ones that found Chespin and deviced a plan how to take it down by using a water shuriken as an X mark
>Greninja, Pikachu and Charizard were together with the gym leaders and various other strong trainers able to reach the inside of the corrupted zygarde
>Greninja saved Alan's ass so he was able to grab Chespin

Greninja did 70% retard
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fuck off ya filthy weeb
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>>31302137
I'm talking about the battle there Gardevoir weren't able to dodge any of Greninja's attacks while Greninja was able to counter anything Gardevoir threw at it while being faster and having its water shuriken overpower a full power shadow ball.

Ash's infernape did literally nothin against Flint's and it OHKO with one of the weakest moves.

Greninja were able to counter Mega Gardevoir, take some hits from it and able to hurt it.

>>31302157
>Ash passing out
>Greninja losing

really reaching now
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>>31301043
>>31301035
Can we run damage calcs here and figure out the minimum level difference?
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>>31302179
People is just salty because Greninja didn't 100%, we already know Ash-Greninja's abilities were indispensable (unlike Zard's or even Pikachu's, their roles were just be strong, Greninja was strong and useful in more ways).
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>>31302242
Yeah, we can.
Nobody wants.
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>>31302222
If they are unable to battle it counts as a lost
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>>31302115
But unlike Cameron, Ash-Greninja was showed to be strong on-screen. They could've just shown it beating a strong trainer like Shota and hope you retards will get the idea, or they could show you Ash-Greninja one-shotting a bunch noobs.

Best thing of all, while Greninja lost to a shitzard, I can at least find happiness in knowing that Ash's Greninja was much, MUCH stronger than Ash's shitzard, despite the latter training in for a shit load of time. Sweet fucking justice.
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>>31302075
Yeah, they were pretty careful about how they depicted power levels in XYZ. Megas are crazy powercreep shit. I'll always point to how they handled Pikachu, they were smart about it.

When Pikachu went against Diantha's Gardevoir, it was typical Ash vs E4/Champion stuff- he was totally outclassed.

Pikachu could beat Mega Lucario but he had to fight tooth and nail to do it.

Pikachu could only be downed by his rival's aces (Sceptile/Charizard), but both of them were non-Mega'd when they did it.

I don't think it'd be a stretch to say that Infernape could handle himself okay against Sceptile or Charizard, but if Charizard Mega'd it'd be instant gg. I think he'd hold off okay against Mega Sceptile since it had almost nothing but grass moves, I'd even argue he'd have a chance of winning. Remember Mega Sceptile vs Ash Greninja was only a more equal match since Shota planned around Ash's team and he had type advantage.

I think the only wrench that gets thrown in it all is how Alain's Charizard beat an E4's Houndoom. If it was just regular Houndoom I'd get it, but Mega Houndoom? I guess you could argue Malva was just toying with Alain the same way Diantha was just testing Greninja's strength.
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>>31302288
>that butthurt over BURASTOzard
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>>31302222
>People still think Ash-Greninja's battle against Mega-Gardevoir meant something in regards to powerlevels.
Really? Even after they had said their purpose here was to test Greninja, and was intentially holding back to get as much data as possible, you still think this was an actual and legitimate fight against a Champion? Do you even get the point of testing something? Can you be any more deluded?
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>>31302288
>But unlike Cameron, Ash-Greninja was showed to be strong on-screen.
Cameron won every match he had on-screen except against Virgil, so he still meets your vague criteria.

The rest of your post really just shows you're an ideologue and you're really not interested in discussing this in good faith.
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>>31302288
>BURASTO BAAN
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>>31302270
I would but at work...
retail job, on break.
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>>31302310
Fuck you. At least it lost to hacked shitzard, not a fucking Dusclops or a fucking Flare Blitz.
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Are people seriously thinking Ash-greninja isn't has most powerful pokemon by a longshot? The powercreeps it fought to keep it even was just crazy.

A fucking Mega Gardevoir from the Champion, A fucking Mega Charizard that OHKO and Elite 4's Mega Houndom, a fucking Mega Sceptile with a hug type advantage, a fucking Mega Abomosnow also with a huge type advantage.
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>>31302361
DURAGON
U
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G
O
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>>31302349
So you got nothing but
>she was doing nothing but toying with him because my headcanons says so

Are you seriously this retarded?

https://youtu.be/lW1yPXTzd1A?t=420

That shadow ball wasn't holding back, that gardevoir wasn't pretending to fall back screaming with damage marks all over her body while Greninja was ready to attack again.

This is FAR FAR beyond any level Infernape fought or were able to achieve.
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>>31302361
BURASTO
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>>31302351
>Cameron won every match he had on-screen except against Virgil, so he still meets your vague criteria.
Difference is, his opponents were much weaker. Mega Evolution wasn't even a fucking thing. Most of the trainers had NFEs, like Ash. That means nothing compared to taking hits from a Mega Sceptile's Franzy Plants and Leaf Storms and still winning.
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>>31302351
>unevolved shitmons vs unevolved shitmons is the same as Mega vs Mega
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>>31302222
check'd
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>it's a "guy thinks Greninja was about to win against Diantha" episode
I don't care how much you like XY and Greninja, that's a nonsensical stance to have when the rest of the show and the results of the league showed that Ash can't win against an E4-equivalent Pokemon like Mega Charizard, so the notion he was about to win against the sitting Champion's ace Pokemon makes no sense whatsoever.
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>>31301035
Why are anime!Zards such tanks? I remember Ash's Charizard taking almost everything before going down, even taking multiple Ice Beams and Water Pulses from a Legendary Pokemon. Red's Charizard was the same. The fuck is up with stats in anime?
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>>31302421
>>31302446
To be clear, I'm not debating whether Greninja's his stronger mon or not.

Going a few posts back up the initial spark to this post chain was the idea that Greninja did "more than Infernape and Charizard combined", as in he was speaking relatively to those Pokemon in each league, so XY having Megas is irrelevant in such a comparison. You can't make that judgment based off stuff you speculate happened off-screen especially if you assume Ash also gave his other Pokemon chances to shine in the matches we weren't shown just like how we can't assume Cameron's somehow a great trainer because he somehow stumbled his way to the semifinals of the Unova League.
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>>31302517
Kids think they're cool and want to see them wreck shit.
Same reason Lucarios are always so strong.
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>>31302466
I didn't say that. I never said he was about to win. I said he was able to battle on even ground at the end of the battle which he very much did. Don't but words in my mouth DPtard.

And Mega Charizard X was above elite 4 level at the end. He was able to battle on even ground with Champion Steven all the way back in mega evolution 2. By 4 he was able to beat 9 megas in a row using only a berry to heal poison and a super potion before OHKO an Malva's Mega Houndom.

You don't need to twist what actually happened just because you're assmad DPtard.
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>>31302531
Lucario is strong though. Kids that watch the anime now could care less about Zards. They want to see frogninja's wreck shit.
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>>31302535
>it's another XYfags feel superior to DPfags episode
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>>31302535
Why is it that anytime anybody says anything remotely negative about XY you XYfags have to imagine its a "DPtard" or "SMfag" out to annoy you? XY might just be, you know, a flawed show.

I'm done here. Some of you XYfags around here really are insufferable.
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>>31302547
>kids that watch the anime now could care less about one of the most overshilled megamons
Nah. Mega Charizard was one of the most popular Pokemon in gen 6.
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>>31302529
>so XY having Megas is irrelevant in such a comparison
No, it isn't. It raises the difficulty bar by a lot. That's like comparing the winning Pokemon in a Little Cup to something from OU.
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>"IKKEEEE JUKKAIN!!!"

>"ORE WA NO CHIKARA DESU!!"

>"JUKKAIN,HADOOO PLANTOOOHH!!"
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>>31302565
I blame Serena and Greninja for creating a cult. It also seems to be babies first anime even though it's an average shonen at best
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>>31302401
Of course she's holding back. She always has to. That's the purpose. Gym leaders hold back to match their Pokemon levels to that of the challenger. She is the goddamn Champion, stronger than the elite four. If she isn't holding back, then she destroys him utterly. If Ash-Greninja can't win against a Charizard and its Blast-Burn, something it is strong against, how the hell do you expect it to win against Gardevoir, who has several moves that are super-effective against him?
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>>31302570
It's true though. The they shilled to the older audience of the games, which still make up the majority of the people who buy the new games. That isn't the case with the anime. Almost no one keeps on watching it.
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>>31302593
>more headcanon garbage

Discarded

And the only shit that Gardevoir had against Greninja was Moonblast which has a retarded slow charging time in the anime.
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>>31302606
>Literally one of the most watched TV anime series in Japan
>Prime time show
People watch it, anon.
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>>31302565
Because that's what you are

Aka Janovy from sppf
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>>31302593
>let's ignore everything Greninja was hit with before blast burn
>let's ignore that, that blast burn OHKO an Mega Houndom belonging to an elite 4
>my head canons are correct because I say so
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>>31302574
Not if he has a Mega of his own to level out the playing field. That's what Ash-Greninja was.

Also you seem to still be missing we're talking about how much said Pokemon contributed to the overall team effort in relative terms. Again, since we saw basically fuckall outside of Ash's match against Shota and Alain it's almost impossible to make any legitimate speculation out of it which is what that guy was doing. (Really since Hawlucha was the one finishing Absol off it's not unreasonable to assume Ash boxed Greninja for some of his 3v3s otherwise he'd just be sweeping everything with it)
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>>31301241
You don't know the levels, natures or EV spreads though.

Technically you should be able to calculate Pikachu's EVs by looking through the episodes and seeing what he beats, but it's liable to have a lot of Atk and Def EVs due to taking out Arbok and Weezing pretty often.
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>>31302670
>Not if he has a Mega of his own to level out the playing field. That's what Ash-Greninja was.
Exactly. He was able to face Mega one-on-one. Cameron faced NFEs one-on-one. While they ranked the same, the powerlevel is clearly different.
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>>31302619
Moonblast is super effective against Greninja, and STAB by Gardevoir. If Ash-Greninja couldn't survive Blast-Burn, which has type advantage over, then it suriving Moon-Blast is either plot contrivance or she was holding back.
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>>31302647
Alright dude, enjoy thinking you "won" since you like the best season of a kid's cartoon or whatever.
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>>31301241
>+
>252
Ash's Pikachu's strongest trait tends to be it's speed though, and it's a mixed attacker. It probably has a similar spread to Greninja in theory.
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>>31302698
But Moonblast didn't even hit, it hit the ground in front of it sending Greninja flying. Are you this fucking retarded?

I could pull that same headcanons from my ass as you have done the whole time and say that Diantha didn't want to use Moonblast because it had a longer charging time than shadow ball and that Ash-greninja countered all her attacks with a move anyway. So shadow ball she could at least spam.
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>>31302691
I'll quote myself since you still didn't catch it.
> you seem to still be missing we're talking about how much said Pokemon contributed to the overall team effort in relative terms
That's what this quote chain was about. Stop shifting the goalposts.
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>>31302017
Ash didn't even use Infernape against Mr. Gameshark, so you can't really use that as an example. He almost definitely would have taken Sinnoh if Tobias wasn't there anyway.
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>>31302720
You're really not getting it. Moonblast is a move learned at level 62. Are you really not seeing how utterly outclassed Ash-Greninja is here?
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>>31302698
They're assuming Greninja can take out Gardevoir before it gets a Moonblast in. Even though a simple Zard can tank literally everything thrown at it by a Greninja, they're assuming a Champion's ace was "losing" because Greninja got a few hits in.
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>>31301298
>anime logic in videogames

wew lad
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>>31302764
>using fucking game mechanics in the anime

Either this is bait or you're a fucking retard.

""""Level 5"""" Snivy used fucking leaf storm, pokemon learn moves that they should only be able to learn through move tutors, TMs or egg moves. There aren't levels in the anime. Pokemon doesn't have one single moveset. Stop being retarded.
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>>31302401
plot twist: ash actually dies, the rest is a dream
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>>31302722
No, you're the one that seems to be dense here.

>See I'm not sure I can really buy the "it happened off-screen" excuse and raw placement for judgment
>because by that logic Cameron is as good as DP Ash.

I explained that Cameron didn't fight as many strong Pokemon to prove he was as good as DP Ash, but that's now moving the goalpost, apparently.
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>>31302535
>He was able to battle on even ground with Champion Steven
>this meme again
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>>31302804
Not that anon, but XY was actually stupid enough to mention concept of levels. They explicitly were mentioned in the Season 1 of anime.
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>>31302813
>both are able to take each others hits well, both pokemon are obviously getting hurt from each other's attacks.

Do you seriously have nothing else but spamming
>this meme again

Everytime?

Pathetic
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>>31302830
>Steven lets his Metagross stand there and take a Blast Burn to the face with it not even being scratched afterwards
>while Charizard was noticeably affected, not majorly damaged but still hurt, by Flash Cannon and Meteor Mash
Keep wanking, Zardfag.
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>>31302828
>XY was actually stupid enough to mention concept of levels

No they didn't. Only time it's used it's not used as literally levels but like somebody saying "I'm on a whole other level than you".

And I wouldn't say that it being mentioned in episode nine 20 fucking years is anything that proves that it exists. And even then Ash's threw the concept of levels out the window.
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>>31302810
It's really obvious you're not interested in an honest discussion, you're just trying to "win" a conversation about a monster fighting cartoon, because you're mixing up two separate points together to create some imaginary "gotcha" point.

I don't actually think Cameron is a good trainer if you couldn't figure that out from context PRECISELY FOR THE REASON YOU'RE SAYING. You know why? Because you took shit, that actually happened, you know, on screen.

Saying Greninja contributed more to his Kalos team than Charizard did to his Johto team or Infernape to his Sinnoh team because Greninja totally won a bunch of other matches off screen is as retarded as saying Cameron is a great trainer because we saw him win some who cares matches and managed to bumble his way into the semifinals.

Since we both agree Cameron's actually a shitty trainer, maybe that means Greninja didn't actually "contribute more than Charizard and Infernape combined".

Does that make sense now? Are you still confused?
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>>31302828
It's not only that, as it's quite clear there are no orders to taking on Gyms in the anime. So, unless the concept of levels exists and Gym leaders intentionally scale their power/levels down to match the challenger, trainers would not be able to take on certain Gyms at all.
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>>31302861
Nah, because Mega Metagross wasn't making noises and shit when it got it by Mega Charizard's attacks.

https://youtu.be/UsnroPqEhOs?t=180

Stop twisting shit from what actually happened

>inb4 i-it wasn't actually hurt because my headcanon says this
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>>31302864
Didn't Clemont mention levels when explaining evolution in XY012 or was that just my dub being retarded?
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>>31302901
>watching the dub
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From all of the shitstorm that has mixing on this retard thread,we can all agree that the anime doesn't have any logic regarding the level.

The fact that proves is that a fucking leafstorming snivy beats ash pikachu in a battle. also it has confirmed that "drawbacks" of moves doesn't exist since in that match it has been used multiple times
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>>31302892
It grunted from getting smacked into the fucking ground, moron. Notice how it immediately got up and went into a Meteor Mash right after, how it stood there the whole time without even bothering to dodge or block, and how all of Steven's dialogue clearly suggests he was just testing Charizard.
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>>31302913
>having Wi-Fi
My normal Internet has glorious download speed that maxes out at 120 KB/s, vs. 2MB/s that I see on Wi-Fi I sometimes have access to.

and to think some people live with that kind of speed like it's nothing special
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>>31302929
>Noticed how Mega Charizard immediately broke through those rocks. It only grunted because it was slammed into the mountain.

See, it isn't hard to make up headcanons.

You answered exactly what I said you would answer with. Shitty headcanons. I just tell what actually is seen on screen.
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>>31302936
What 3rd world shithole do you live in? I have 300mb/s down and 150mb/s up and that's the cheaper package here.
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How's everyone today? I'll be posting today's Poképroblem! : Which group in this thread is more insufferable?
A) XYFags
B) SMfags
C) DPtards
D) "BURASTO BAHN"-ners

These group of people really like to cause shitstorms whenever they can. We'll find out the answer at bump limit
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>>31302929
Not the other anon, but why the fuck would he be testing a random trainer he doesn't even know. He wanted a battle, and they were battling.
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>>31303040
All of them, since the animu is fucking garbage
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>>31302974
Except Charizard was clearly damaged after the first Flash Cannon, and couldn't react to Meteor Mash, considering the following comments on Metagross's speed. Whereas Steven's dialogue clearly implies he's not going all out, and that's reflected in the battle.
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>>31302914
Levels and type matters only when the plot wants it to, otherwise, it's only one of those 'out of sight, out of mind' type of situation.
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>>31303054
Because he's the Hoenn Champion, confident in his abilities, and wants to see what someone with a Mega can do instead of crushing them immediately? Every Elite 4 member and Champion Ash has met has done the same.
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>>31303040
A) "XY and Greninja are the best, SM shit animation, DP shit, Dawn shit, You're shit, I'm shit"
B) "Comfy as fuck you guys just don't know how to relax fucking edgelord fedoras B-)"
C) "Muh High Touch friendship, muh plot arcs, muh super saiyan monkey, muh Brock"
D) "BURASTO BAAAAAAAAAAN"

I don't know who's the worst, but D is the least so because at least they're up front about the shitposting I guess.
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>>31302914
You can leave it at "the anime doesn't have any logic". You faggots are overthinking this shit, the only thing the animators and writers truly care about is "what will look cool for this episode"
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>>31303066
>Except Charizard was clearly damaged after the first Flash Cannon

And I say Metagross was clearly damaged as well by the same logic. It was obvious that Steven was very impressed by Mega Charizard X. And we saw the Mega Charizard X also wasn't hurt very much by Mega Metagorss' attacks.
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>>31302996
>3rd world
i live in 2nd world shithole
Also, you may want to convert that to megabytes (one MB is eight Mb). I am not believing you have 300 megabytes of download speed, that's overkill.
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>>31303040
>SMfags
Really, anon? Considering the game was recently released and the anime is currently airing, what do you honestly expect them to do? Not talk about it?
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>>31303158
I mean mbps of course
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>>31303094
>mfw I've played the part of XYfag, DPtard and SMfag depending on the conversation
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>>31303134
Except Charizard was bent over and hurt despite clearly making an effort to block the attack. Metagross was physically slammed into the ground by Dragon Claw, and appeared completely uninjured afterwards. And while Steven was impressed by Charizard, that obviously doesn't mean he was going all out.
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>>31303194
Nothing of what you say actually doesn't say he didn't go all out. We're literally discussing the events of what was seen on screen with you throwing headcanons at me.
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>>31303182
>mfw /vp/ falls for it every single time
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>>31303219
Do you have any actual argument besides "b-but headcanons"? You're the one assuming that Metagross was hurt by the attack when that video clearly shows otherwise.
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>>31303182
>>31303288
These guys get it, you're supposed to enjoy the show, then come on 4chan to make sure nobody else can.
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https://www.strawpoll.me/12069726
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>>31302901
Dub being retarded.
No surprises there.
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>>31301079

Not be sociopaths. Kantocock/chicken have an expressive range of 2. Generally speaking, only one is used.

Even during the most intense heart-pounding moments of their journey, such as raiding the Aether Foundation and Po Town, unveiling the extent of Lusamine's psychopathy, evolving Cosmog through some very-flashy ancient technology, entering Ultra Space, fighting Lusamine after she transforms into Mother Beast, and then the Nihilego's causing some kind of quake, they have no fuckin reaction.

Lillie admits she wants to take a ride on the Kantocock, in a cave, alone on a tiny island in the ocean. That same fuckin smile still.
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>>31303158
Well, i'm in the middle of Kentucky and our lowest package is 15, highest 50.
https://www.gettimewarnercable.com/lp_internet

So.. assuming he's in some big city where like, Google Fiber plopped down, he might be telling the truth.

Don't forget to remind your neighbors to poo in loo.
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>>31304388
Nah, GoogFibe is 1gbps (1,000 Mbit/s).
He's probably just like in LA or something.
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>>31301022
Ash's greninja doesn't even know hydro pump.
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>>31304388
I live in yurop, I have fiber but it's not google's fiber of course.
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>>31303182
I love doing that. Though I do other topics. Do appreciate your work though.
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>>31304453
Ooh. In that case brush up on your arabic and build a bunker for when Russia tries to eat you.
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>>31304486
And good luck with the Tyrones and Pablos Mr 56% """white""". Those Poland tier living standards must be great lmao.
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>>31301035
>It should've been knocked out after the first Thunderbolt, if not the second

that battle really is bullshit
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