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Make a pokemon OU / Ubers with one change

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Ill start
>Gets regenerator
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>>31300608
>All his stats are raised by 2 stages after Slow Start ends
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>Talonflame
>Change Gale Wings back to the gen 6 version
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>>31300636
too soon anon
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>>31300636
>gale wings is restored to its gen 6 version
>in exchange pokemon with this ability take double damage from stealth rock.
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>>31300683
>sending out T-Flame with rocks up before
>thinking this was an acceptable play
So, no changes?
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Fissure
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>>31300683
well it would still live if you had an odd number hitpoints so it would be much better than the trashcan it currently is
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>>31300694
>implying there aren't situations where you are unable to remove rocks
The idea is that an ability as retarded as gale wings needs some sort of drawback, even if it's something minor.
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>>31300623
this isn't good enough. It doesn't get rest or any form of recovery besides drain punch. It would never make it five turns
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>>31300728
no it wouldnt, since SR calculates in % so it'd be 100%
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Gigalith now gets Shore Up.
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>hidden ability becomes competitive or magic guard
>gains access to energy ball and thunderbolt

Is Delphox slightly better now?
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>>31300856
>OU/UBERS with one change
>Lists 3/4
>Still not good enough

Anon, I don't think you understand the thread
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>>31300856
still just a shittier alakazam
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>>31300884
What if it was just Magic Guard?
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>EE activates at the end of the turn
>Gets a free Regenerator heal every time EE is activated
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>>31300893
I'd totally use Golisopod if its ability worked that way.
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>>31300856
Still worse than Victini.
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>Vikavolt gets Speed Boost instead of Levitate
>Gigalith gets Shore Up
>Lycanroc (both forms) gets Earthquake
>Electivire gets Volt Tackle
>Alolan Raichu gets Surf
>(For Dusknoir, Banette, and Golurk) Add a physical, 120BP Ghost-type move with a 20% chance to flinch
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>>31301090
>Vikavolt
>Speed boost
You boosted your 43 by 1.5x. I'm terrified.
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>>31300636
How about letting Gale Wings activate as long as it has 50% health or more? I think it's a sensible nerf.

Or just no nerf at all because Ash-Greninja Water Shuriken hits about as hard as BB , and I don't see GF nerfing the special snowflake ashime pandering
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Gets new ability:
Zoom Climb
Doubles speed stat.
Speed becomes 406 with Timid and 370 with Modest.It also gets the Electric Terrain buffs.
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Gets Necrozmium, which gives all of its moves Z base power/ effect
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>>31300623
>still gets phased out by Skarm at the tail end of Turn 5
nope

How about "Slow Start only takes one turn"?
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>>31301730
it already learns agility you retard
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Team preview is gone
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Light Ball now doubles all his stats
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>>31302871
Yeah, team preview really killed this dude's viability hard.
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>>31301090
>Flinch chance on some of the slowest Pokemon


At least do it right, make it have a burn chance and lower the power to 90. Better physical ghost scald. Exclusive to Dusknoir, Banette and Golurk though, don't want that faggy Dusclops taking the spotlight again.
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>>31303029
>Died the same gen it was released

Why so needlessly cruel, Gamefreak? Team preview and the fact it was an event stopped it from being the Lucario they wanted it to be.
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>>31300608
Adaptability
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>>31300623
Fuck awful
Starts with -2 Attack and Speed. Raises by one at the start of each turn
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>>31300710
missed the point of this thread
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>>31300856
Not even close to enough
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>>31300608
105 Speed.
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>>31300623
Slow Start takes 3 turns now and it doesn't reset after switching out
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>>31303719
Mega Gallade loves the new Mega mechanics.

>tfw no stone
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>>31300710
>OHKO move
>OU

Dude, really?
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>>31303772
He's talking about No Guard Fissure meme
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>>31302874
still shit lol
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>>31301368
If you protect you can outspeed some mon already (although admittedly not many), and with two boosts you outspeed Mega Salamence. So yeah you should be terrified
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>>31303802
are you retarded?
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>>31303811
>salamence used dragon dance!
"it needs 2 turns of setup to be good" probably means its not good
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>>31303719
Still worse than Lele
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>gets shadow ball
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>>31303782
I know
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>>31303876
More like >gets any special move that isn't Grass or Normal
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>>31303876
What if Serperior got Earth Power?
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>>31303876
>gets flamethrower and earthpower
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>>31304013
what about hidden power
what about dragon pulse?
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>>31303802
>612 speed
>shit
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>>31300623
Hidden Ability: Guts
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>Peck
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>>31304084
He said OU or Ubers, not AG anon
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Stance change
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>>31304143
I want this
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>pixilate
>raise def
>raise hp
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>>31304207
>one change
>one (1)
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>>31304224
Sorry, I'm a tard, just give him pixilate, then
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Flygon gets Arena Trap
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>>31304172
>Unova mon
Yeah, forget it ever getting something cool like Stance Change even though it makes perfect sense.
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>>31304232
>Pixilate Thrash
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>>31300608
>Huge Power

UBER/FUCKING BANNED
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>>31304468
*Huge Power clone for speed
now its ubers
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>>31300623
Just give it Klutz. Now it is a mega tier mon.
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>>31304084

Laughing so hard
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>>31302827
You are a illiterate faggot.
>Gets new ABILITY
>>31303719
Gallade should have been 68/125/65/65/80/115.
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>origin pulse
>Recover
>Shell smash

Pick only one
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>>31300893
Better idea
>EE now forces the other Pokemon to immediately switch out if Golisopod hits them below half health
Imagine it's like roar
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>>31304675
>a illiterate
wew lad
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>>31304710
I dont think recover would make it that good, and correct me if I'm wrong, but dont you need to be under the effects of kyogre's rain for origin pulse to work?

Shell smash would work, obviously, but shell smash can make anything work. Literally name me one non-defensive oriented pokemon that wouldn't be instantly amazing with shell smash
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you know what
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>>31304710

Shell Smash is the obvious choice.
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>>31304771

Dragonate.
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Making an Eviolite for Offensive Stats and/or Speed might make Porygon2 and Scyther more viable.
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>>31304810
>not fightate
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>>31304771
>pokedex mentions its preevos constantly breaking or shedding scales
>doesn't get Multiscale
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>>31304835
>make Porygon2 more viable.
You have your bulkier conversion-Z user and megatank eviolite sets, that's enough.
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>>31303772
I mean, technically No Guard Fissure shouldn't be banned. There is no RNG involved. I could see it being kicked up to ubers for being cancerous, but there is no luck involved here.
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>>31304923
ohko moves are banned
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>>31304923
Imagine Scarf No Guard Fissure Machamps running around. Even if OHKO moves weren't banned, that's uncompetitive to the highest degree, it would be banned before it was even released.
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Gets a new HA.

>Twirly Body: Automatically confuses adjacent targets on switch-in.
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>>31303772
>OU / Ubers
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Serene grace for the scald+moonblast meme sets.
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>>31300623
Just give it Clear Body.

I want to fucking see this thing in higher tiers but Slow Start is garbage. Would removing Slow Start immediately even make it OU material?
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>>31305137
I was disappointed its HA was worse than torrent. Serene Grace would have maked sense.
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Delta Stream
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>>31305222
Corrosion would be better I think.
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Protean.

It already learns a lot of moves of differing types, might as well take advantage of them. It can still keep the color changes upon switching types. The Memories will be useless though.
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>>31304847
>A legendary bird Pokémon. As it flaps its blazing wings, even the night sky will turn red.
>This legendary bird Pokémon is said to bring early spring to the wintry lands it visits.
>Known as the legendary bird of fire. Every flap of its wings creates a dazzling flash of flames.
>CHARIZARD HAS DROUGHT
>THIS THING DOESN'T
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>>31300890
>not good enough with 3 changes
>"What if it was only one of them"

Nice one
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>>31303782
>not know ohko moves are banned
Kek shitter
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>>31304064
Outspeeding things won't make it automatically good when it still dies to any move at all as any bulky Pokémon can live anything Pikachu throws at it.
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accession to Conversion

conversion-Z on something with access to all tm's would be hilarious
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>Earth power
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+600 BST
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>>31304762
Recover would be huge

>Scald
>pulse move
>pulse move/Rapid spin
>Recover
79/120/115 defenses with instant recovery and scald is very bulky.

Shell smash would be better but it would be straight to ubers imo
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Recover
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Can use Extreme Evoboost (along with the other Eeveelutions). Bumps them all up a tier, possibly even Flareon. Just imagine, Flareon in NU!
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>>31306065
>extreme evoboost vaporeon

...no just no
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>>31305174
Well, both him and Slaking have the highest Attack out of all Normal mons, if you don't count Megas or Ultra Beasts then they're tied as #3 with highest Attack.
Regigigas is specially bulky having good Defense, Sp.Def and HP
Him and Slaking have above average speed so they're not slow compared to other mons. Both have limitations to keep them in check, Truant and Slow Start. Removing any othen would make them too powerful, though Slow Start lasting 5 turns is overkill for Regigigas, I guess GF had the idea back in gen 4 of "if you let Regigigas last more than 5 turns then you deserve to get fucked" and they just forgot to update the ability as time went on
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Extremespeed.

Hell, at least give him Quick Attack.
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Give him any other ability
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>>31306222
>Slow start
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just give it huge power lol
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>>31306222
keep the ability, give it skill swap
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+20 Defense
Makes its defense the same as eviolite Chansey's, but able to hold an item.
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Pupitar gets Shell Smash
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Gunk Shot
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>>31300777
>Reaching a state where you can't remove hazards before sending in T-Flame.
Shiggy
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>>31306364
This could work out what with weather wars, or at least rain making a comeback
>>31306342
>sailor clef
have not thought about her in so long.
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>>31306364
Weak to psychic. Weak to electric. Neutral to grass. 3/4 Tapus rekt it. Still probably worse than Tentacruel and Toxapex.
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>>31306434
Couldn't it use gunkshot and get at least Tapu Koko and Lele, with the obvious known to already be ohko'd? I think this one would work as a physical version of Tentacruel and a not third stage pancreatic cancer version of Toxapex
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>>31306342
Just give it +20 in special attack instead
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>>31306486
That too, but I just wanted to end the Chansey/Blissey war.
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>>31304771
Drain Punch?
Close Combat?
Kommo-oite?
I have no idea
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>>31306528
I love both of them, but I only like Chansey a little bit more because of its shiny form not being lighter pink.
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>>31300623
The problem is not it's stats after slow start
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>>31306570
it's fucking green though
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>>31304771
oh i know definitely what you mean.
quiver dance
In all honesty I would give it better special moves, or at least aura sphere and not focus miss
>>31306628
Jokes on you, that's my favorite color.
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Trace
>comes in on M-Sable and sets up with Bulk
>comes in on Lando and forces it out
>comes in on Azu and sweeps
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>>31300893
One change, that's two.
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Battle Bond works like the primals for being fug-lite


>any item
>changing at turn 1
>water shuriken as 60BP that break sturdy and subs
Instant Uber. literally only transforming after KO and Lele holding him back right now anyway.
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>>31306865
It IS Mewtwo, but with a better typing and the best Priority attack. Mewtwo just has better coverage right now, but when/if Tutors, Ash-Gren will be better than regular Mewtwo.
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Take 1 point of HP and put it into Speed. That way it can run a set where Beast Boost will raise its speed upon each KO.
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>>31305595
And by doubling ALL of his stats, he can survive a bit better.
Plus, you know that with the proper investment, a Light Ball Pikachu hits hard, right? Max investment, it's Sp Atk is 218, becoming 436. It's big problem is its pitiful bulk and speed that isn't good enough. Just buffing it's Speed alone makes him not suck.
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>>31300623
>When sent out stats are lowered 2 stages, raise by 1 stage every turn.
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Give Archeops Rock Head
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>>31306697
+20 Speed and +20 Attack would be enough already
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>>31300623
>Gives everybody else Slow Start for the rest of the battle.
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Dragon Dance
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>>31307505
He said Ubers, not AG.
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Give it Electrify.

Only thing that can stop it is Ice Shard.
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>>31304033
Gibe it overheat
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>>31304049
Dragon as an offensive non-STAB isn't even a meme, like electric. Literally no one thinks its good.
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>>31300608
One word: Accelrock.

Or a HP boost. Either is fine.
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give it the Corrosion ability

or give it speed swap since it already has so many stat swapping moves.
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>>31300608
>Corrode
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>>31307744
Strength Sap, or whatever Shiinotic's move is called
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EXTREME

SPEED
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>>31307677
>accelerock minior
someday anon
someday
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>New ability: Workout
>Speed boost for Attack
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>+20 Speed
>Gains access to Close Combat or Superpower
>Gear Grind is buffed to 75 BP
Only one of the three.
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>>31310234
>Not calling it Gainz
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>>31300789
No, 49%*2
It isnt 100%
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>>31301730
>zoom climb
what the fuck?
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>>31310470
Gear Grind buff.
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Vigaroth:
Give him stance stand but removing the typing limitations.
Remove his move sweep with all dragon and or fire/water attacks only.
Increase special speed stat by 50.
Finally restore it's distinctive fast move but lower it maybe? Base damage to 30 instead of 90?

He'll be fucking un-usable
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>>31310617
is this english
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>>31310677
It's written with English words, but I'm still not entirely sure.
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>>31307505
Memes aside, that's actually all Garchomp needs. He's already extremely powerful as it is, Dragon Dance would probably push him to ubers. Probably.
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>>31300608
Levitate Magnezone.
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>>31310543
It's a thing fighter planes can do. It's where they basically fly near straight up to gain altitude as quickly as possible. That anon doesn't know what he's talking about since zoom climbing doesn't make you go fast. It does the exact opposite. Zoom climbing is not sustainable and rapidly slows the plane down as its speed is converted into potential energy. It's basically suicide if a hostile aircraft is anywhere near weapon range when you try to do it. It is neat to watch at airshows, and that's probably where he heard the term.
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>>31305114
>confuses every pokemon on the field and increases their atk by 2 stages
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>>31300623

Buff slow start so it gets +1 attack and speed every turn so it reaches normal stats after 2 turns and goes up from there.
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>>31310506
SR on Talonflame is 50%, just that uneven HP has it round down and thus you technically have slightly over half HP. It's not suddenly 49%.
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>>31306999
Do the numbers remain prime?
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>>31300608
Give psychic terrain
Give exclusive Item like Marowak's thick club but instead of doubling attack, have it double special attack.
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>>31300710
faggot for your bad opinion
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>>31300893
How about intimidate instead or an intimidate reskin that lowers defense
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>>31311449
>he has to ask
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>>31309518
Diggerby is already too strong. It does not need a buff. People would run it more in OU if they brought Aegislash back, as he absolutely reks it. Also diggersby's movepool is god tier, so much coverage.
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>alakazam
>twisted fork held item
>switches attack and sp attack
>if knocked off by knock off, the attacker receives 25% damage
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Give Adaptability

This pokemon is clearly supposed to be a sweeper, but Corrosion is clearly an ability meant for tanks that usually get walled by steel and poison types, Corrosion does nothing for salazzle and it feels like a faster, harder hitting, but frailer Heliolisk, with more weaknesses. It is doomed to UU for good unless it gets a better ability.
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>>31306380
VGC doesn't use hazards at all and it's the official format you underage faggot. It's a dumb ability that was seriously overpowered and the nerf was extremely justified.
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>>31300825
And Diamond Storm
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>>31311473
It is a shame that Tapu Lele outclasses all of the other Psychic Fairies now. Mr. Mime and Gardevoir will be pushed to the wayside if they don't get a new gimmick

I say gardevoir needs intimidate to compensate for it's shitty defences. also a 10pt buf in speed would help it against things like Venusaur, Goodra, Dragonite, and Mega Tyranitar.

INB4 Mega Gardevoir. It is a waste of a mega slot now with Lele out there as it's moon blast with a life orb does almost as much damage as hyper voice.
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>>31305348
Drought kills Hurricane's already poor accuracy, though. If it gets Drought it needs a better Flying STAB to go with it.

New move- Simoon
Flying, 80 Base Power, goes up to 90 Base Power in Sun and gains 30% chance to flinch.

Anything that can learn Heat Wave except for Zapdos (because lol, screw you other legendary birds) now learns Simoon.
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>>31306174
Would removing those two abilities really make them too powerful? Walls exist. I can't imagine either of them getting past Toxapex or Celesteela or Skarmory or whatever.
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>>31305178
Liquid Voice is alright, what's wrong with a water type Hyper Voice?
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>>31311567
I think its Corrosion should've been switched with Toxapex's Merciless

Toxapex would probably appreciate being able to poison anything (and it still has Regenerator) while Salazzle would take advantage of poisoned opponents by hitting them with powerful Crits.
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>>31306697
Make it fairy fighting.
Now it doesn't lose to half the shit it loses to.
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>>31311567
>new ability
>seduction: special attacks have a chance to infatuate the opponent.
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>>31300608
>Truant only takes effect at full health
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>>31300608
Gets Light Metal.
Light Metal in addition to its current effect acts like Gale Wings for steel type moves (+1 priority if at full health)
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>>31311856
Oh fuck this would make Slaking AG.
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>>31300623
>Slow Start also only lasts 2-3 turns instead of 5, and give him slack off/recover
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access to dragon dance
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>>31311856
if you want it to be OU/Ubers
>Truant does not activate if Slaking has been hit
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>>31305254
Type depends on the Z-crystal equipped, and STAB moves get 20% increased power.

Bonus: memories are now a single item in the inventory that lets you pick a single memory. That memory becomes a secondary type for Silvally, grants no STAB, removes power boost of first type (so the choice is either good defensive second type, or staying single type but hitting harder).
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>>31311930
>raticate used dragon dance
>the opponent farted
>raticate is kill
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>>31300856
give it Gale Wings for Fire moves
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>>31304762
Origin Pulse (and Precipice Blades, for that matter) works independently of weather. Origin Pulse is also confirmed to get boosted by Mega Launcher so Mega Blastoise really wants it.
>>31311775
>Toxapex
Both get Earthquake. LO EQ from either is a 2HKO on 252/252 Bold Toxapex.
>Skarm/Celesteela
Both get Fire Punch, and Slaking has usable Special Attack and Fire Blast to work with. LO Naive Slaking 2HKOs all Skarm variants with Fire Blast, and both can 2HKO Celesteela with LO Fire Punch. They also both get Thunder/bolt/Punch so there's that.
Oh, and both Slaking and Regigigas have god-tier bulk to go along with that retarded Attack and convenient Speed.
Slaking and Regigigas would be gods without their abilities, to say nothing of if they got actually helpful ones instead.
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>>31311473
No, give it Draining Kiss
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>>31306203
Facade now has priority but only for ursaring because fuck everyone else.
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>>31312059
Would ability-less Slaking and Regigigas actually have a place among Ubers then? While actual ability Slaking and Regigigas would probably be decent contenders in Ubers? I'd love to live to see that day.
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>>31300608
>gets Overheat
>+20 Speed
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>>31304512
Oh fuck, that would give it around 165 speed. I can see it getting uber usage, but due to its bulk and typing it would be around B rank with Mewtwo and Zekrom
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>>31312110
Would rather have +20 defense or HP,for bulky roost or calm mind sets, those are fun as hell. OPrboably wouldn't be OU with all that Tapu Koko running around but minght be usable in last gens OU (this gens UU)
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>>31312092
I mean, we've seen what 640 BST with no ability and a free item slot can do, and it's name is Ash-Greninja. Those two sit at 670 BST. They'd be unrelenting wallbreakers and almost certainly would find their way into Ubers before long. Hell, Slaking could even be a good wall with that 150/100/65 bulk and sexy sexy Slack Off recovery. Truant and Slow Start are astoundingly shit abilities, it's impressive how bad they made these otherwise amazing Pokemon turn out.
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>>31310617
This bait was so illegible i had to respond

>Ursaring
>new move like shift gear, but normal type
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x2 HP
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>>31311798
one slightly better move is not worth an ability slot
>>31311734
It's problem isn't power, though, it's rocks, which allow practically anything to KO it. That being said, this would
>>31312307
now this is viable
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>>31311798
It's only marginally better than Surf, which is already a hard sell when Scald and Hydro Pump exist. If it gave the 1.2x -ate bonus we'd be getting somewhere, but right now the only reason you'd want Liquid Voice is if you really fucking hated Substitute.
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+100 Speed
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>>31305746
g..game freak wouldn't make something so broken r..right?
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>>31312618
don't worry, it doesn't get crab hammer.
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>>31310617
>>31310677
>>31310713
i think he had a fucking stroke while writing this
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>>31301090
>alolan raichu gets surf

already a thing, anon. just transfer a surf pika from gen 6
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>>31312604
wonder guard
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>>31314837
Still weak to Ground bro, since it loses Levitate.

Might as well give Luxray or Electivire Wonder Guard.
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>>31312659
Every time this meme pops up I remember that if it transforms into a Kingler it DOES get Crabhammer. Technically
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>>31312551
And even then you got Sparkling Aria, so Liquid Boice keeps being useless
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>>31310617
I don't know why but "special speed" made absolutely lose it
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Rapid Spin
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>>31300608
Learns U turn
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>>31300608
coverage
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>>31305792
and a mega. maybe adaptability too, with an added dark typing. give it dark pulse.
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>>31307505
how about no
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>>31311510
>He doesn't know what a rhetorical question is
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>>31314880
air balloon
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>>31307756
this made me laugh really fucking hard for some reason
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>>31300608
>Telepathy is now replaced with Aerilate.
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>>31315702
>HJK
>Play Rough
wew
lilligant on the other hand could use some more moves
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>>31314880
But you can fake out the opponent by actually carrying Levitate and getting a free turn.
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Create a new item that while held, stops the user's ability from activating.
Would be useful as a Trick item, while also giving Slaking and Regigias an option to be viable without breaking them.
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>>31317391
>Aerilate Boom Burst
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>>31311515
hes so strong that no one uses him
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>>31304033

and clanging scales.
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-everything now has an -ate HA
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>>31317467
Just give it Klutz
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>>31302874
Fuck it, just make Light Ball just work for the entire Pikachu line.

May as well improve the Raichus
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>>31311392
>send in any Physical attacker holding a Lum Berry
lmao gg
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>>31310948
Garchomp doesn't really need anything. He's been one of the most consistently good mons ever since his release. Even the release of Fairy type did nothing to stop this madman.
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>>31303876
not good enough try draco-meteor or overheat
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>>31320527
>Even the release of Fairy type did nothing to stop this madman.
People forget to realize that Fairy's only contribution to game balance was to punish mindless spamming of boosted Outrage. The pokemon themselves fail at countering Dragons as most dragons can still learn Poison and Steel moves. Z-Iron Tail Haxorus is a good Mimikyu check as Mold Breaker bypasses disguise. Dragons are never going to get a reliable counters as their vast movepools and ridiculous stats prevents that from ever being a reality.
>>
Gyarados learns Dragon Ascent.
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>>31300623
even better: It gets skill swap as an attack.
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It gets acess to flash cannon, aura sphere and earth power to go with Z-conversion, because then OHKO'ing eviolite chansey would be the LEAST broken of it's abilities.

Also trading a small drop in attack to get 106 speed.
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>>31321977
>one change
>it gets a new movepool and a stat boost
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>>31306174

>Meanwhile, they release Aegislash with an effective 720 BST.
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>>31306055

>SM Suspect Test Round 2: Fly Me To The Moon.
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>>31321988
fine then, just take 15 points of attack and put them on speed then, that would probably make the most difference.
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>>31317748
True. It is not fair to use diggersby, he is just too strong it makes battles uninteresting.
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>>31321977
>OHKO'ing eviolite chansey
Huh? Is this a joke? Porygon-Z will never be able to do that. Even with those buffs.
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>>31322215
you're right, it would have to be at least two hits so chansey would have to not use soft-boiled.

+1 252+ SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Aura Sphere vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 304-360 (47.3 - 56%) -- 79.3% chance to 2HKO
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>>31315659
More like
>Multiscale
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>>31310617
>this post
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>Zoroark
>Disguise
>Or +20 Atk
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>Ice type loses fighting weakness
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>>31315681
>not volt switch
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>>31305588
by smogon you cockbag. people who arent crybabies play by the official rules
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>>31300623
Give him conversion
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something I've always thought about: what if there was some single-use battle item that 1 turn only let a slow pokemon outspeed a fast one?A consistent if temporary version of quick claw.

Just like how there's focus band and focus sash, you could have quick claw and (insert name of new item here).

A lot of pokemon are held back just because they hit hard as a truck but get destroyed by a faster mon first, making them a detriment to the team. The prime example of this is Abomasnow: hits hard, sets up well, but kinda useless without Trick Room or some other sneaky workaround.

Just the introduction of an item with this sort of effect could instantly bring some pokemon up a couple of tiers, probably into at least OU, if not beyond.
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>>31324226
aboma crab could be good with this desu
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>>31304810
That is for mega Dragonite, Kommo-o gets fightate.
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>>31311567
>corrosion does nothing for salazzle
you can easily play a sub toxic stall set with disable or protect and still have flamethrower or sludge bomb so you're not taunt bait
even dragon rage could be used for gimmicky shit
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>>31324226
>doubles
>rampardos used rock slide
>its partner used trick room
hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
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Disguise resets every time you change a mon
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>>31321977
just give this bitch protean
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>>31300623
Just make slow start increase its defenses by 50% for those first 5 turns, that way it actually has a chance to survive to the end.
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>>31300608
shedinja with pain split would be interesting

>>31300623
recover or protect for me
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>>31325281
>not endeavor
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Drought
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>>31301756
>Z-move Specs Psychic from a mon with those defenses and a solid rock clone
Ouch
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>>31322310
>Adaptability
>Aura Sphere
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>>31304468
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Rampardos Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Metagross-Mega: 337-397 (111.9 - 131.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Dear lord
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>>31325314
Drought, +20 speed and +20 atk and then maybe it'll work in OU.
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>>31325314
>Drought
>makes absolutely no sense thematically
>does nothing but strengthen one of its many weaknesses
really makes one think
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>>31301451
Ash had a Talonflame...
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>>31300856
>>31300884
>>31300890
Is it possible to fix phox in one change?

here's one idea I had:

>new HA: Acane Power: Fire and Psychic attacks are now super effective against resistant and immune pokemon.
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>>31303147
>already ou
>already uber with soul dew
>contributed to a "make a mon op" thread but slapping adaptability onto something
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>>31325436
>z-conversion
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>>31306222
Has a Mummy clone that instead of basically removing abilities also gives the opponents Pokemon Truant.
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>>31300893
i jsut came
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>>31325314
Sun variant of Speed Boost.
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>>31328098
I mean Swift Swim.
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>>31324226
Isn't there a berry that does something similar to this? I know it's only usable when you're at low HP though, so that kind of makes it harder to use.
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Mach Punch or Ice Shard.
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>>31328108
literally chlorophyll
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Change HA to Serene Grace
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Please fix Aggron.
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>>31328675
Recover would fix the mega's biggest problems. Idk about the base form. Its an inferior Tyrantrum now
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>>31306567
Shellsmash
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>>31305546
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>>31300608
Wobbuffet gets an auto counter ability
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>>31325187
SubBelch is hilariously fun.
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