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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersSun&MoonSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide for XY:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Trailer for upcoming events
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okLq9SfVJFk

>Movie 20: Pocket Monsters the movie: I Choose You [July 15th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be-zA7-lr_k

Next episode:
>SM10 - Will the Z-Move Work?! Challenging the Grand Trial!! [Jan 12th]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/episodes/

Upcoming episodes:
>SM11 - Satoshi Visits Kaki! [Jan 19th]
>SM12 - The Extracurricular Lesson is on Hidoide?! [Jan 26th]
>SM13 - The Great Alola Pancake Race! [Feb 2nd]
>SM14 - The Fruit of Courage: Lilie and Rokon! [Feb 9th]

Shit people will ask:
>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z and SM. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>31277362

SM9 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=886338

SM8 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_Sun_&_Moon_008_Who's_in_Charge_of_the_Egg[H264_720P][1B2CFD16].mkv.torrent

XY&Z35 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_035_Rival_Showdown!_Satoshi_Gekkouga_VS_Mega_Jukain!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][61327225].mkv.torrent

XY&Z47 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_047_No_End_to_the_Zeros!_Till_the_Day_We_Meet_Again!![H264_720P][EB1C0BCC].mkv.torrent

XY&Z SPECIAL 1 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=867058

XY&Z SPECIAL 2 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=869085

(HIGH QUALITY) MOVIE 19 RAW:
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=882608
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NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS SUN & MOON 10 - WILL THE Z-MOVE WORK?! CHALLENGING THE GRAND TRIAL!! (JANUARY 12TH)
>It's a Grand Trial battle against Island King Hala! Satoshi and Pikachu get overwhelmed by the extreme strength and Z-Move power of Hala's Pokémon! But they fight back with their own fully powered Z-Move!

>Summary:
>It's finally time for the Grand Trial against Island King Hala! Hala uses Fighting types, and his powerful battle style causes Satoshi great trouble. Satoshi goes up against him alongside Pikachu and Mokuroh! During the battle, Hala unleashes a Z-Move together with his partner Hariteyama, but Satoshi returns fire by using a fully powered Z-Move himself! It's a clash between two Z-Moves! How will it end?

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Daisuke Namikawa: Rotom Zukan
>Keiichi Nakagawa: Professor Kukui
>Asami Seto: Junsa
>Noboyuki Hiyama: Hala
>Megumi Hayashibara: Mokuroh
>Rikako Aikawa: Kapu-Kokeko
>Shinichiro Miki: Hariteyama
>Fumiko Takekuma: Makenkani
>Kaito Ishikawa: Dekagoos
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration

UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 66 (Jan 15th)

SM11 - Satoshi Visits Kaki! (Jan 19th)
>There's no Pokémon School this day, and Satoshi has been training hard at Z-Moves with his homeroom teacher Professor Kukui since morning. While he's practicing, his classmate Kaki happens to pass by, riding on his Lizardon. Kaki tells him he's helping out at his family's farm by doing a delivery. Satoshi gets interested in the farm and goes to visit Kaki. It turns out there are lots of Pokémon there.
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SM12 - The Extracurricular Lesson is on Hidoide?! (Jan 26th)
>Everyone in the Rocket Gang have had some leisurely and lazy days. But one day, they receive a call from HQ. HQ wants to know if their activities in the Alola region are going well or not. The Rocket Gang somehow manages to give them a report that smooths things over. However, they realize they can't just continue on like this, and decide to aim for getting a new Pokémon.

SM13 - The Great Alola Pancake Race! (Feb 2nd)
>Satoshi's classmate Mao tells him that the Pancake Race will soon take place. This is a race where Trainers and Pokémon work together to carry pancakes stacked up on a plate to the goal as fast as they can without the stack collapsing. Satoshi gets really interested and enters the Pancake Race together with Pikachu.

SM14 - The Fruit of Courage: Lilie and Rokon! (Feb 9th)
>The Pokémon egg Satoshi and his friends have all been taking care off together finally hatches, and they're all really excited about it. Lilie has been in charge of the egg, and her emotions towards it hatching are really strong. But she is still unable to touch Pokémon, so she ends up feeling down about the entire thing. And then, after school that day, an ominous shadow has its eyes set on Lilie while she's on her way home.

POKÉMON XY&Z CHARACTER SONG PROJECT COLLECTION VOL 2:
https://my.mixtape.moe/buzdoe.zip

ALOLA!:
https://mega.nz/#!EAcUCTrZ!pVFBHejs9JcUzK7M1YE2oQ_ns753N5O0ldYFfHW_ra0

POSE:
https://mega.nz/#!TlYTBZ5A!kZi8TzDkFIHwsU10_0PuZrVDoymIGjuPWWg0XcXxDws
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Hau when?
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>tfw to smart too enjoy SM
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Not shitrena spam please
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Reminder
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Flying to the new thread. Hoping we get more subs soon.

So, could Salandit return for revenge?

Thread song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-yIiu69850
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>>31286041
Not this shit again
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>>31286008
>too smart too enjoy SM
>not smart enough to ignore the threads
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>>31286006
Never by the looks of it.

>>31286028
>shiterena
You aren't helping the cause.
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>>31286068
that would be one strong as hell ceiling fan.
either that or Serena would have to be brittle as fuck.
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>>31286068
There were no visble fans in that ceiling from what I recall, plus probably Sylveon would catch her before she gets too far, kind of like what happened when she messed up her wrist.
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>>31286050
>>31286068
Lillie pls
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>>31286083
Serena is strong. Lillie is fragile has toilet paper
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>>31286026
I like this meme
>>31286154
Ash pls
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>>31286154
>Serena is strong
hahahaha
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>>31286182
>>31286068
>>31286050
>>31286028
Why so mad?
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>>31286135
Lillie wouldn't chill herself online.
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>>31286196
>>31286196
Hey, she is strong for Ash
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>>31286182
Mallow and Lillie are already raising the egg.
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>>31286234
If I took off the ribbon would she die?
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>>31286260
She'd probably kill you first.
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>>31286260
She would probably try to kill you
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>>31286234
This.

>>31286281
>>31286286
>inbefore hivemind accusations
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>>31286281
>>31286286
Or perhaps she's wondering why someone would remove the ribbon before chopping her with the Lilliefag's ceiling fan
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>>31286310
Damn she's strong.
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>>31286260
Ash should check it out
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>>31286332
For you
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>>31286372
>being this new
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Serenafags stop being autistic.
How old are these guys?
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>>31286260
It would be extremely embarrassing.
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>>31286439
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>>31286466
>>31286439

Anon, no one cares about that, XY is over.
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Do you think Kukui subs will get tired and drop the translations?
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What's with all the new Serena fanart?
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>>31286535
Depression
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>>31286439
>>31286466
Cuuute
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>>31286530
Obviously.
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>>31286336
Fug
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>>31286561
Don't answer yourself
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>>31286535
Nips love her.
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>>31286535
Why wouldn't there be more of it?

>>31286530
No idea. Although SOFCJ dropped series and stopped uploading RAWs for no apparent reason.
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>>31286576
>but accurate

Every season has subs that get abandoned later
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Random question, but does anyone have rips of the Diancie and Hoopa soundtracks? Like that I can download and not have to rely on shitty YouTube? I have Volcanion, but I'd like all three. It's much comfier writing fanfic while listening to music related to the series.
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>>31286632
>for no apparent reason
He said he would after the first two episodes
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>>31286576
>accurate

>>31286477
>>31286372
>shitterenafags
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>>31286640
Yes, with a little luck one day we'll have all the older episodes and movies subbed by PM.
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>>31286662
Yes, but why?
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>>31286693
No explicit reason given but from what I've heard he didn't seem to like it much
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I wonder what interesting SM conversations are happening toda-
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>>31286693
He didn't like SM. It ain't that hard,anon

>>31286709
>expecting this from sm
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>>31286730
At least that Korean group picked it up. The quality is shit but better than nothing. MM also does raws and they release it in both HD and 10 bit HD
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>>31286709
This GIF makes me kek every time

We've been getting lotsa shitposting in case you didn't notice all the dead posts
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>>31286530
Not sure. He gets lots of views and DLs but tough to predict if this series will keep his interest.
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>>31286378
Why are they so cute ?
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>>31286730

why must fansubbers be such fickle cunts

wasn't there an episode this week?
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>>31286778
>ctrl f (Dead)
>23 results
>59 posts
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>>31286808
Because they're canon
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>>31286820
>fansubber

What? He used to upload RAWs
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>>31286841

>>31286511
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>>31286848

oh

I don't know man, I'm just here since I want to see guzma in the anime
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>>31286820
>SOFCJ
>fansubber
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Daily reminder to APOLOGIZE TO LILLIE

SHE IS THE MAIN GIRL
SHE GETS ALL THS GOOD WRITTERS
SHE GETS ALL THE GOOD ANIMATORS
SHE GETS ALL THE ATTENTION
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>>31286798
I'm talking more about how subbing a show all by yourself and fast could become tiresome. Lots of people lose interesting in subing the show because there is lot episodes per gen
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>>31286875

>>31286219
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>>31286903
>IMG
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>>31286832
Is that just the number of times deleted posts were quoted, or is that the number of unique deleted posts?
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>>31286915
We have endured more than 3 years of your autism, anon
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>>31286958
See >>31286219
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>>31286987
>Lilliefags tripfag all over the place
>Serenafags don't
Gee I wonder.
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>>31286972
I have already answered your question.
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ded
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>>31287006
But really tho. Why?
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>>31287044
Okay, you got me. You baited me successfully. I thought you were being serious for a moment and I allowed myself to give you a (You). I won't be doing that again.

But with this last (You), I'll say that Adamant's tripfagging is related to him being the source of accurate subs and other translations around here, and that's literally the only reason it's acceptted. You're just tripfagging because your mommy never loved you and that's why you self-insert into Lillie.
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>>31286987
Because they're in love
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>>31287044
Here's your (you)
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>>31287088
>>31287107
>image.png
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>>31287088
I'm not a shiperfag if that's what you think.
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>>31287089
Qt least post an amour family that doesn't make Satoshi look like the most dead beat dad ever.
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>>31287089
>bearded Ash
Disgusting, DELET
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>>31287089
>adult ash looking this ugly
no wonder he doesn't age.
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>>31287104
With who?
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>>31287135
>>31287146
Better?
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>>31287177
>Yamcha
>Serena
>Pikachu
>Kari from digimon

Wtf
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>>31286752
>they release it in both HD and 10 bit HD
What's the difference?

>>31286798
Eh, if he likes it he'll keep doing it.

>>31286841
C-cute.
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>>31287177
What's happening to Serena? Her face seems off and ash has a balloon head.
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>>31287196
hahahaha
The best family
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I-I don't have many more of these...
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>>31287277
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>>31287277
Ash will never look good.
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>>31287177
Nope, Serena's head looks like someone is stretching it like pizza dough
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>>31287277
No children though.
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>>31287426
What the hell is with her nose here?
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>>31287164
And his girlfriend is the only other character in the universe confirmed to age at the same rate he does.
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>>31287426
Who /comfy as Pikachu/ here?
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>>31287461
>who is Gary
Someone didn't see that flashback.
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>>31287493
Fuck

Alright, the only female character.

>Amour versus Pallet shipping wars when?
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>Master Class wasn't 3 episodes
>literally half of the existing 2 were spent on build-up and Amourshippihg respectively
>we didn't see Serena advance through the rounds with all her different routines
>we didn't get names for all the other performers

Why was that allowed?
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>>31286913
It's pretty pointless anyway, since they're literally only doing it for hits and need to be faster than the established group everyone knows will sub the episodes anyway every single week for people to care.

That Aeon faggot pretty obviously dropped the show when he realized his entire fanbase were just watching him because he was first and stopped giving a shit abut him the instant Kukui showed up and was faster.
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>>31287574
Probably because XYZ ended up only being a year.
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>>31287600
So we get a shitty Quilladin episode that literally nobody wanted to see instead.
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>>31287574
>we didn't see Cussler in dazzle camouflage and dressing overall burst through the backstage wall and turn out to be a performer with a key dangling off of the railing
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>>31287574
Nobody gave a shit about master class or performances only mongs who waifu 'd literal who's.
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>>31287574
>we didn't see Serena advance through the rounds with all her different routines
Didn't we though? What we didn't see were all the rounds involving other performers.

>>31287609
>he doesn't like Chespin evo line
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>>31287629
We didn't see the middle round where she went up against Honedge Girl and Plusle and Minun Girl or whichever ones got through.
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>>31287641
More or less like we didn't see two of Ash's battles and two incomplete.
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>>31287574
they weren't that interesting to watch.
especially when compared to the Gym battles.
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>>31287660
Which is just as unforgivable. Especially when Alan's equivalent match with the Hiker got at least twice as much screentime as Ash v Ayaka did.
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>>31287579
Aeon's subs actually weren't half-bad. Better than Kukui's.

>>31287609
They kind of needed a Quilladin episode somewhere. Just as they needed a Litleo episode and a Phantump episode. Be thankful there were so few fillers in XY&Z.
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>>31287629
>he likes anything in Chespin evo line
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>>31287675
Maybe, but it didn't need to be so awful. Just like they needed a Sophocles episode, but why did they hsve to make it so shit?
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>>31287674
I guess, but we got Tierno vs. Shota in that episode and also almost complete Alan vs. Trevor.
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>>31287704
But Ayaka is cute.
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>>31287695
>implying that was the last Sophocles episode we'll ever see
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>>31287201
>>they release it in both HD and 10 bit HD
>What's the difference?
Not him, but I think the latter is a higher-quality encoding method. It enables you to squeeze more quality out of fewer bits. MM's 10-bit raws are like 25% smaller in file size than the standard raws.
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>>31287675
>Aeon's subs actually weren't half-bad. Better than Kukui's.
Probably, but that doesn't change the fact that qualityfags waited for PM and speedtards just went for whatever came out first, which wasn't him. So he dropped the show after realizing he no longer had an audience.
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>>31287677
Not really.

>>31287710
But about as irrelevant as the no name performers.
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>>31287710
This. I would take her on a romantic dinner date so fucking hard.

>>31287731
>irrelevant
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>>31287731
Except she's already defeated Ash and he had a score to settle.
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>>31287297
I always imagined an adult Ash would look like Riley, or pic related but with his usual haircut and less facial hair.
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>>31287748
that actually fits the thought of Adult Ash more than anything else posted here.
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>>31287725
Fansubbing market is quite a bitch.
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>>31285960
>Comy Shoko
>Comy
At this rate I'll be out of sudoku puzzles to award you by June.
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>>31287744
But that happened in the movies which the anime didn't even bother to acknowledge. She probably wanted a rematch with Alan like Louis.
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Hau when?
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>>31287624
XYZ19: 4.0%
XYZ20: 4.0%
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>>31287828
>>31286006
Sasuga, anon.
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>>31287804
>series has established group that's been subbing it for ages
>start subbing it in the middle of the series
>get surprised people will only ever give a fuck about your subs is if there's any reason to download them over the established group's subs
Unless the established group was known to be really shitty, the only way you can possibly get downloads is by being first.
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>>31287886
Exactly my point.
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>Hadenshi still hasn't delivered an HD cap of the Pokenchi preview
Not like there was that much new footage this time, but it was nice to have a reliable source of a high-quality recording instead of scouring YouTube for screen-capture recordings and watermarked/logo-covered shit.
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so they simplified (uglified) the art style to get better animation

why do we still get crap like SM 7 then?
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>>31288038
Only kahuna fights and the Aether shit is gonna get good animation, most likely.
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>>31288203
We don't even know when Aether will appear.
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>>31288258
That's the problem.
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>>31288297
It's not a problem yet, we haven't even seen Ash beat Hala.
If it gets to the end of the 2nd Island and the start of the 3rd and still no Aether, then it's a problem.
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>>31288363
I wonder how many of us here will survive that long if it comes to that.
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>>31288363
In X&Y, we saw Lysandre in the Mega Evolution Specials but no Team Flare till XY&Z.
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>>31288529
Thank goodness we at least got that.

Plus at least XY had plenty of other stuff and hype to tide us over, save for that slow stretch between XY08 and XY24.
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>>31288453
Most of us would probably revert to XYZ memes at that point.
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>>31288551
I remember greentexting to fill multi-week gaps with no episodes at all.

Those were comfy times, when the shitposters were asleep or at school.
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>>31288567
Uh, we kind of already have:
>>31286041
>>31286310
>>31286677

>>31288604
>greentext autism
>comfy
Pick one and only one.
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>>31288616
>Uh, we kind of already have
Everyone has a different breaking point.
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>>31288363
>If it gets to the end of the 2nd Island and the start of the 3rd
It seems Ash will be going back and forth between islands though, he won't be dropping school anytime soon.
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I love the comfy, slice of life and slapstick style direction that SM is going for. Also the new art style.

How can people here not like them changing things up a little?
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>>31288745
Change is not in and of itself a good thing. There's good change, and then there's not-so-good change.

Those things you list aren't inherently bad. But SM so far hasn't executed that formula particularly well.
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>>31288773
Not that anon, but that depends on who you ask. Change isn't something everyone can accept, you might not like the changes, but I personally like it.
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>>31288793
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>>31288745
>a little
I wish this meme would die
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>>31288745
Change is not inherently good, not everyone likes SoL, and SM's slapstick is anything but funny.

>new art style
Pic related.
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>>31288888
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>>31288910
I prefer SM's art style over XY's
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>>31288888
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>>31288888
Nice digits
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>>31288888
WASTED
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>>31288888
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>>31288888
>those wasted quints
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>>31288888
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>>31288888
lol
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>>31288995
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>>31289017
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>>31288995
>>31289017
>>31289026
>the writers gave us Ash's wedding vows
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>>31288888
>>31288919
>>31288948
>>31288954
>>31288959
>>31288963
>>31288985
>>31289002
>>31289004
>>31289008
lol
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>>31288888
Lol
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>>31288745
XY was comfy as fuck, which you'd have known if you had watched more than the ass end of XY&Z.
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>>31288995
>>31289017
This just seems so forced. Who the hell thought this is good writing and approved this?
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>>31288888
>>31288919
>>31288948
>>31288954
>>31288959
>>31288963
>>31288985
>>31289002
>>31289004
>>31289008
>>31289057
>>31289068
Fuck off with your repeating numbers autism.
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>>31289091
It wasn't forced at all. What the fuck are you on about?
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>>31289104
for one the writers made him lose to Wulfric just so he could go into an uncharacteristic depression and ""Master"" the Ash-Greninja form
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>>31285960
What pun?
>>31286008
>the guy holding it is laughing
I kinda feel bad for laugh
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>>31289157
>What pun?
"Futon ni Goroon".
It's a pun on "futon ni gorone" (dozing off under the futon) with "gorone" replaced with Golone, Graveler's nip name.

It also rhymes, for an additional play on words.
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Serena zombie when?
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>>31289151
Are you retarded? Can't you seriously follow the plot of a children's show? The set up was back in XY&Z23 after Ash started to doubt himself after he fainted and had the dream about Greninja leaving. This was built up on XY&Z25 were he once again passed and in XY&Z26 when he got so stressed out about Shota that he wasn't able to activate it at all and lost against the guy he had crushed before. Against Wulfric was just the final nail in the coffin since he went into the battle desperate to win to prove himself to Shota and because of this lost and blamed himself.

Maybe SM is better for you since you're obviously retarded.
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>>31289104
Ash has lost plenty of times, and even humiliatingly so. And he had always realize the importance of working together with his Pokemon. It's his thing since the first fucking episode. For him to go all depressed and mopey, just because he lost was so unlike him. It was like they made him a complete 180 of his normal personality for these episodes so they can give the illusion of character development by having him revert back to his old personality.
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>>31289243
>I didn't actually watch these episodes: the post
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>>31289243
Read retard >>31289237

It wasn't about the lost itself but what it meant for him and Greninja. It was heavily set up. Watch the episodes next time retard.
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>>31289226
Happened early on in XY.

Her first instinct was to try to hug Ash.
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>>31289277
Was it to make him feel safe?
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>>31289272
Except why the hell would he doubt himself over this? Ash has never needed to rely on power to win his battles, as evidence in his decision to never force his Pokemon to evolve if they didn't want to. Nor the fact that he has won against Mega's without rely on Mega's himself, so for him to start doubting his ability because he couldn't master Ash-Greninja is stupid. And since when does Ash care about losing to previous battled trainers? He bounces back from his losses stronger than ever, and encouraging them to become stronger themselves. It's his thing for every season, as it's the reason why he continues to travel to other regions despite losing in league battles. He's always excited for Pokemon battles, so the idea that he can be turned off of battling for any reason is baffling.
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>>31289071
Basically this
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>>31289408
Are you seriously so retarded that you can't understand simple plot?

Ash-greninja was something unknown that nobody knew what it was and only theories from Clemont existed. He was able to synchro with Greninja, feel it's fucking pain and suddenly started to fucking get heart attack symptoms and passing out. It's a completely knew power that

>He couldn't activate freely
>Is completely unknown
>Made him actually feel everything Greninja felt
>Made him lose control of his own body and faints

Plus a lot of other things like the dream about Greninja leaving or him not being able to activate it and a lot of other stuff just contributed to what would became something he would be very insecure about.

This is something that would make ANY character unsure about themself. You don't just start doubt yourself. It has a cause and this is literally the perfect cause for a confident guy like Ash.

Jesus fuck you're stupid.
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From Shoko (translated by Adamant):
>To commemorate the opening of the Pokémon Center Sapporo, I drew this picture for theManyula! I drew lots of Alola Pokémon :)
Apparently this was also featured on Pokenchi yesterday.

That Nariya-style pun, tho.

https://twitter.com/shoko55mmts/status/817897297870655488
https://twitter.com/shoko55mmts/status/817905571219128320
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>>31289408
Did you seriously not watch the episodes?
Ash got upset because he and Greninja were supposed to help each other reach those heights together, and he was failing Greninja. It wasn't losing the battles, it was failing Greninja because he couldn't take the transformation, causing the two of them to lose. That's where the whole "I, the trainer, have to become stronger" idea came from in the first place. He talks about training himself alongside his Pokemon after he loses to Alan and we see him doing this training when he meets Diantha again. Then he hears that Shota has outpaced him, and after losing to both Diantha and Alan in the same way, he tries to show off to Shota so that he can still be the master that everyone sees him as, and he fucks it up. Then he goes on til against Wulfric and loses, with everyone noticing his change in attitude (Him shoving his jacket at Serena wasn't a cute Amour scene, it was a hint that Ash wasn't himself; he was already getting rough with Serena). It's only after Serena knocks some sense into him that he realizes he was doing it wrong, and it's only after he and Greninja save the Spewpa that he realizes what he needed to do instead. Watch the fucking show next time so people don't have to spoonfeed you.
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>>31289578
Cuuuute
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>>31289408
You better just stick to SM if such a """"complicated"""" plot is hard to understand for you. The slapstick, the dumbed down Ash and the slow progression is perfect for you
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>>31289578
Nice
Now what does this mean?
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>>31289540
>>31289598
Shame the whole thing was wasted with Ash-Greninja choking in the league, when it really mattered.
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>>31289654
Y
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>>31289647
Are you asking about the text on the art?
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>>31289654
It made for a compelling story at the time, at least. Not even the god Ash-Greninja can defeat the Executives.

At least Ash got the girl, even if he can't get a League.
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>>31289540
Except it's fucking Ash. You make it sound like this is the first ever time he has ever fail to master a new ability of his Pokemon. And you are an idiot if you think fucking pain is enough to make Ash think twice. This is someone that leaped off of a tall tower without thinking he can survive the fall in the first episode of XY. And you must have a horrible memory to think this is the first time he ever thought of his Pokemon leaving him. Everything you have mentioned, he has went through it in the past and overcame it, and even in the same season too. So, for him to be depressed now, of all times, is ludicrous.
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>>31289640
>>31289647
This is pretty old, but...
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>>31289654
Yea, but all the hype for it and the episode pre the finals with it were hype as shit. Totally worth it. These threads when we got new data broadscasts, upcoming trailers or titles were so fucking hype and good that SM /padt/ is just sad.

This shit was so hype
https://youtu.be/WfM1qP1cbj4?list=PLBE2D9BnJJUrlBo5QFmPbX6ZuBqdqd5JK
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>>31289770
>he can't get be depressed and in self doubt because he's Ash and I SAY SO

uhuh? Come back when you actually counter our points instead of saying it doesn't work because you say so.
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>>31289770
It's the first time that it was ever his fault directly, though. Every other time (Blaze, mostly) the fault could be shouldered by the Pokemon unable to handle their own power, or growing arrogant and prideful after they evolved, or it was something outside his control (Sceptile getting rejected by that Meganium). In THIS case, Ash is the one who passes out during his battles, not Greninja. Greninja can take the transformation, and Ash cannot. That is what causes the spiral to start; a failure on Ash's part that is his and his alone.
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>>31289819
How about the fact that he saw this entire drama played through during Korrina's mini arc. Like, nearly the same exact shit, saw it first hand, and learned the same lessons that she did. How the hell did he forget all of that, after how long he spent with Korrina and Lucario?
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>>31289785
Rinka's old shirt looked so dumb.
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>>31289871
Her second shirt a best shirt.
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>>31289862
Because living through something and seeing someone else go through it are different things?

It's starting to sound a little like autism is your actual problem, Anon.
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>>31289862
Because like >>31289843 said it was Ash that was the problem. The problem wasn't Korrina and Korrina alone. It was Lucario. And the two situations aren't even close to the same other than that a full power can't be used because x reason. Lucario got crazy because the aura fucked with it. Ash stumbled on a completely new unknown power that he himself had do adapt to in a way he had no idea how to, to be able to use it to its fullest extent or he would faint.
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>>31289048
The writers everything about their future shy of baby names
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>>31289578
Is it weird that it bothers me Litten is show as being cold?Here and in the anime.Its a fire pokemon,they have fire in their bodies.Still a nice drawing.
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>>31289952
>*the writers gave us everything
Fuck
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>>31289965
Cats sleeping under the kotatsu is a ridiculously old image.
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>>31289048
Ash getting married?People really think Pokemon will be ended for good and won't be used for money any more?Ash and Pikachu together are the mascots of Pokemon.Even giving a new character his Pikachu wouldn't feel right.
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>>31289965
>>31289999
Press space you retarded kid
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>>31289907
>>31289937
And the problem is that he saw this drama unfold. He learned this valuable lesson, so it's jarring for him to not recall any of it, and suddenly go through the same thing Korrina went through and go all depressed when he lost. Because Korrina lost her gym battle against Ash, who didn't have a Mega, after mastering Mega. He should have known then and there that you can't always rely on a new power to win all your battles, and that Pokemon battles is an equal partnership. So, when he finally experienced the same thing himself, all that stuff was somehow forgotten so he can go into a forced depression.
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Lana best girl
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>... And that's how I propose improving the school lunch menu!
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>>31290050
What the fuck am I reading.
They aren't even the same person.
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>>31290050
>Pokemon battles is an equal partnership
I'm glad we agree, because it was an insufficiency in ASH that caused his problems. He knows they're a partnership, but HE was the one who wasn't holding up his end of the bargain.

Go watch the episodes or gtfo.
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>>31290235
Autism.
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>>31290235
But he witnessed it happening and how they resolved it. For him to try to brute force Ash-Grenina despite seeing first hand how brute forcing Mega is a bad idea already, and refused to talk about it even though he knew that's how Korrina and Lucario resolved their drama, is incredibly jarring. This isn't even a Character of the Week case here as he spent a good amount of time with them and learned the same lessons about trusts from the same teachers that Korrina did.
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>>31290253
Right, except the problem is that he bottled it up inside. He always talk things through with his Pokemon, so for him to not say anything and tried to brute force the transformation is unlike him.
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>>31289668
X
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>>31290373
W
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alolanoggers and lilliekikes should be killed tbqh
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>>31290430
ebin falseflag
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>>31290329
>Ash Greninja
>mega
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>>31290554
Ash-Greninja is Mega in all but name. Other than the lack of a Mega Stone, it might as well be Mega. Or is a new temporary transformation into a new form that's based upon the bond between Pokemon and trainer not applicable to both of them?
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>>31290675
R
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me eating serena's pussy when
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>>31290735
Tierno pls
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>>31290642
You can only use one mega per battle and you can use both a mega and ash-greninja in any battle, so it's not a mega.
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YMCA
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>>31290822
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>>31290751
You're talking about game-mechanics here. But let's be honest here, Ash-Greninja is just a variant on Mega. Other than the lack of a Mega stone, it's virtually the same thing.
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>>31290735
Shauna pls
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>>31290845
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>>31290807
>>31290822
>>31290845
>>31290867
Saw this on Pixiv.

It's qt.

Looks like Serena is the key to un-SM/BWing Ash.
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>>31290800
>>31290842
>>31290875
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>>31290978
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>>31290978
>>31291001
Too incoherent, I think bots may have learned to shitpost.
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>>31290851
Yeah, surely Korrina was in pain when Lucario suffered damage.
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>>31291015
And Ash totally blacked out when Ash-Greninja took a Blast-Burn to the face at the end of the league battle.
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>>31291046
That's because he mastered the form together with Greninja.
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>>31291046
Ash didn't feel a thing during the finals lmao
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If you could choose between adding another year of episodes to xyz or having SM as is, which would you choose?
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>>31291197

SM

Rowlet too comfy.
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>>31291197
XYZ
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>>31287277
This is my favorite future Serena art.
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>>31291197
XYZ
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>>31291197
Another year of XY. More Tripokalons would have been fun, Clemont and Serena could have gotten an episode about their friendship, we could havery gotten Ash crossdressing, more Miette including anew episode where she pulls out all the stops on stealing Ash, only for him to want to stay with Serena's, etc.

This is assuming the League still was kept for the end, and the ending wasn't changed.
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>>31291197
ZYX
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>>31291244
>long hair
Discarded.

>>31291197
Depends. What would the extra year of episodes in XY&Z entail? Would it have to start from the end of the XY&Z we know, or could we revise any events during the course of XY&Z?

I don't see what an extra year of XY&Z would really accomplish, honestly, unless they really felt the need to showcase the Battle Chateau or Battle Maison.
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>>31291283
Next question: what would you want the extra episodes to expand on or include?
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>>31291283
Long hair on future Serena is acceptable. You wouldn't expect her to keep her hair the same forever, right?
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>>31291244
Who is the dad? Cant be Ash since they have no cheek marks.
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>>31291321
Unless she gets cancer
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>>31291304
That waltz IOU.
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>>31291328
>they have no cheek marks.
So?
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>>31291321
Ash really took a liking to her short hair, so maybe.
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>>31291304
Milfi, Sylveon, Noivern, second date, Grace and Delia
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>>31291367
Seems like the one thing Ash would pass on to his kids.
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>>31291304
Delia embarrassing Ash in front of Serena
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>>31291404
Maybe they're recessive.
>>31291343
This desu
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>>31291328
>honey colored eyes
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>>31291304
Beach/swimsuit episode
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>>31291437
The hype for that episode was off the charts
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>>31291304
Serena taking a shit
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>>31291197
XY&Z of course
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I miss eureka and clemont. She was the perfect kid companion and he was the shy robot who grew to being a functional normie. They made the series for me.
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>>31291474
>>31291343
Reminder that:
>they didn't dance and they never will
>they didn't hug and they never will
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>>31291474
>Meanwhile in the writing studio after the reception to that episode comes in, one of the show's higher-ups meets with a TVTokyo executive

>Uh, we kinda need to portray a kiss on the lips in a children's TV show
>Sorry, but we don't allow that, and I don't think you "NEED" to show it.
>Oh, believe me, we NEED it.
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>>31291531
At least they kissed.
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>ywn see based XY Ash ever again

inb4 SMfag replying "good" or some shit
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>>31291531
>they didn't dance and never will

Then how do you suppose Serena taught Ash how to dance early on in the series?
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>>31291558
Ash vs diantha Japanese episode will always be a highlight.
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I don't mind that XY ended, I just wish XY Ash continued and Serena wasn't banished to the same fate as all previous female companions. Seeing her gone for a while is alright, but I wish she returned for a final endgame season.
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Let's talk about May
Why does she wear such revealing outfits?
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>>31291690
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>>31291728
That's not him, dummy.
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>>31291558
>inb4 SMfag replying "good" or some shit

good
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>>31291728
I appreciate this image.

Reminds me of the time /padt/ attempted to combat shitposting by shipping the shitposters. There was fanart and everything.
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>>31291558
which side of XY ash are we talkin?
Personality or competence?
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>>31291683
Maybe the movie will help?
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>>31291775
Both of course
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>>31291787
This. This is the ash I liked. Comfy but knew when to get shit done.
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>>31291787
while his competence isn't entirely gone in SM, I'll miss how it was in XY.
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>>31291786
Serena appearing sounds too good to be true.
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>>31291786
Yeah no, that's not gonna happen.
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>>31291822
I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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Aside from a possible SM cameo, it is disappointing if Serena just fades away into obscurity.

Even May and Dawn were dropped like hot potatoes after their cameos ended. Which goes to prove now matter how popular or how large a role in terms of screentime a character gets in the show, they can still be easily axed and forgotten.
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>>31291822
It'd be entertaining if Serena was featured in a short before the movie, in something relating to the summer camp.
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>>31291887
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>>31291887
>>31291911
Hands off!
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>>31291889
How will lilliefags recover if the same fate falls on her? But seriously, I hate how the anime just axes away fan loved characters. You would think since they pander so much to gen 1 they would bring them back sometimes. Idk do a chronicles spinoff or something
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>>31291889
it's somewhat surprising how predictable the ending of XY&Z was.
Ash lost the league, all his Travelling Companions left, and Ash himself went back to Kanto.
>but the kiss scene!
The Amour scene was a surprise but she still left in the end.
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>>31291498
>waifu wars on SM
Nigga what? That was XY with the TriPokalons.
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>>31291948
>implying it's not serena pinching SM Ash's cheeks
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>>31291197
>another year of XYZ would be litleo episode level filler

SM for sure
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>>31291996
Serena /ss/ing SM Ash when?
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>>31291889
>Even May and Dawn were dropped like hot potatoes after their cameos ended. Which goes to prove now matter how popular or how large a role in terms of screentime a character gets in the show, they can still be easily axed and forgotten.
Typical pokemon, constantly changing and replacing, Ash is the only character in the franchise who is immune to this, but the price is mind resets and constant redesigns.
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>>31292010
But the whole SM has been litleo filler so far
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>>31292017
In the current year, judging by your digits.
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>>31292030
bullshit!
there has not seen 1 litleo in SM so far.
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>>31291976
Come on, are you really comparing random girl #1 vs Serena to mallow vs Lana vs Lillie. Anon..
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>>31292027
>implying the reset this time around wasn't due to Ash being incapable of remembering a world before kissu
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>>31291966
Give ideas on how to change the ending to xyz
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>>31291949
>How will lilliefags recover if the same fate falls on her?
I like Lillie a lot but i know she will be dropped someday like the rest of pokegirls, so i'm enjoying her now while i can.
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>>31292076
It's really just a few Lilliespergs vs everyone else.
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Would you eat the food she prepared?
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>>31291197
XYZ. My wife needed to make it past a theme round and she needed a name. We also needed a bikini episode for her and her fellow Tripokalon girls.
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>>31292102
have Serena or Clemont go to Kanto with Ash.
there they learn about Alola similar to how Ash did in the show and go there together.
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>>31291889
I had a hypothesis once that seemed to predict kissu reasonably enough, and said hypothesis would suggest that they wouldn't want Serena to be COMPLETELY forgotten.
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>>31292076
Considering how Waifu Wars was basically Serenas version of a XBowl, yes they were a lot more fun.
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>>31292158
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>>31292158
qt serena
i love her so much
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>>31292142
since the child population is dropping, who is this anime being made for? Also, you would think 10 year olds would ask older siblings or friends about past seasons of Pokemon therefore watching them and asking the same questions we have
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>>31292076
Mallow and Lana might as well be random girls with how long they've been irrelevant for.
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>>31292250
Imagine if that had been a thing. Imagine if Misty and Brock had stayed on as the companions all this time.
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>>31292107
They're mainly just shitposting anyways.
>>31292158
>>31292179
>tfw Blanchefag (I think?) made these images
>the extreme shitposting during late XY scared him and Jessicafag off
RIP waifufriends. ;_;
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>>31292195
I was taking the moral lesson angle. In particular, the idea that going with Yashio by herself and not having a romantic closure with Ash would NOT be a lesson that Japan would need kids to be learning. It's the same reason the games have had signs of romance in them since Gen V, and why other shows in Japan have introduced romance.

And sure enough, the show had Serena not go with Yashio and instead get a romantic closure with Ash.
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>>31292279
God, no. Misty was already growing stale mid-Johto, and Brock was almost nothing but a background prop during DP.
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>>31292304
>Brock
>background prop
>not serial rapist
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>>31292290
Blanchefag was cool. He wasn't a spammer like Luisafag or made autistic pastas like the Calfag.
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>>31292294
Ah I see. If Serena went with yashio, it would perpetuate more of what is already happening in Japan. Putting work above everything else. Whether thats good or bad is the question.
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>>31292279
May-Dawn-Iris(?)-Serena would have been Ash's rivals or cotds instead
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>>31292322
Jessicafag wasn't bad either. I think the thread actually made a meme homoship out of Blanchefag and Jessicafag.
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>>31292322
I like Luisafag. He has an admirable loyalty to his waifu.
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>Watch dub of XYZ47 on YouTube
>TPCi actually superimposed credits over the flashback sequences.
>A remarkable amount of effort on their part.

Who wants to bet two weeks later when CN airs it they'll fuck it up and squeeze it all into a tiny corner while an advertisement for Teen Titans Go plays in another corner, and completely forget the post-credits scene.
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>>31292430
Better than TVNZ who didn't air it at all. They took it off the air after the Serena vs. Ash one, leaving the final two episodes unaired.
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>>31292430
>Watch dub
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>Look at me guys! I'm cool right?
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>>31292430
>watching the dub
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I've only seen a few episodes of Johto here and there, and the only time I ever really watched it consecutively was the last few episodes. namely Ash vs Gary all the way to the end. Am I really missing out on anything?
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>>31292553
It has some solid episodes, but it was extremely episodic for most of its run, so not really.
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>>31292553
Honestly no. You need to watch The Wayward Wobbuffet though. Shit remains the single best episode of the series to date.
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>>31292534
>>31292480

See >>31292499
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>>31292584
>single best episode of the series to date
Anon, Shinji is paging you.
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New bred:
>>31292599
>>31292599
>>31292599
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>>31292609
Good for him.
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>>31292332
Bingo. Putting solo pursuits above romance is exactly how Japan got into this situation to begin with. The last thing they need is a show to encourage the next generation to keep it up.
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>>31292430
>TPCi replaced all but 2 pieces of music in XYZ47 dub.

Yeah, no, no effort on their part.
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>>31291787
This is the real Ash.
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