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How to fix it without increasing its speed?

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How to fix it without increasing its speed?
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>>31285474
increasing its bulk
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>>31285474
Ability: Lightspeed
Electric type moves have +1 priority.
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>>31285496
uber.
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>>31285496
AG
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>>31285496
NU
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>>31285474
Autotrick room
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>>31285474
Ability: Magnetic Launcher
After using any Electric Type move, the next 2 attacks used will have +1 priority.
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>>31285496
this is cheating
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>>31285512
>>31285519
lol
it still cant do shit to special walls or ground types
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>>31285496
>only at full HP
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>>31285474
Delta stream but for bug types
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>>31285552
No, permanently as a bigger fuck you to Talonflame
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Speed boost would help it a little bit.
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>>31285474
2x speed on electric terrain
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Ability: Trick Surge
When the Pokemon enters battle, the area becomes Tricky.
Automatically activates Trick Room.
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>>31285540
So you just need a team meant to cover its two small weaknesses?
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>>31285576
>Surge
are you retarded?
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Make Trick Room not suck
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>>31285589
I don't know what else to call it, chill.
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>>31285586
>a team meant to cover its two small weaknesses
or literally one (1) pokemon with decent spdef that isnt weak to Elec OR any ground mon OR any bulky rock mon OR lycanroc-day OR something with extremespeed
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M-Vikavolt
Bug/Electric
Electric Surge
77
70
90 > 135
145 > 173
75 > 125
43 > 20
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>>31285474
lower its speed
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>>31285474
Decrease speed
Add lost speed points to defenses

I always thought that certain Pokemon should have a passive stat for levitate that wouldn't use up an ability slot. Pokemon like magneton, nosepass,and vikavolt should have it and then get other abilities too.

Also honestly, just use magneton. Same concept, better typing, better numbers
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>>31285474
Give it Levitate.
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>>31285540
Volt switch and hp ice/energy ball retard.
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>>31285628
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>>31285474

Decrease everything else's speed.
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>>31285637
>hp ice/ energy ball
but you'll be hit by rock slide before you can even say HP
ground types also can't be volt switched
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>>31285474
HA: Speed Boost
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>>31285474
Speed Huge Power that triples base speed
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It's a pretty good mon, can spam disquake with chomp and is one of the best special attacker under TR and synergise with A-Marowak
still top 50 in VGC
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>>31285496
Ability: Railgun
Electric moves have +1 priority after any turn Vikavolt has not attacked.
Using "Charge" grants any attacking move after it +1 priority.

I just realized Protect would make this ability ridiculous. Maybe just the second part, then.
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Ability: Fearsome
Opponents have their speed reduced by one stage.

Basically a speed intimidate, you aren't manipulating vikavolts speed but rather the enemy's speed.

This way it's not just Talonflame 2 AND can provide immense support in doubles.
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>>31285496
LMNOP
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>>31285692
at 43 base speed the first boost does literally nothing for it
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>>31285780
>still doesn't outspeed base 100s with only 188 EVs
top kek
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>>31285474
Motor Drive
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By increasing its speed
Fuck off OP it needs it.
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>>31286017
What if we gave it Agility?
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>>31286092
it has agility
at +2 it's still slow
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>>31285474
Make it even slower so it can be a beast in trick room. Divert lost speed stats into bulk to keep same BST.
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>>31285594
An item that extends trick room like light clay/weather rocks do for screens/weather is a long time coming. The terrains even got an extender
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>>31285496
That would create Talonflame 2.0 (before Gale Wing got nerfed obv).
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Make everything else slower.

Going beyond Base 120 speed was a mistake.
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>>31286092

Maybe agility plus speed boost. Hell maybe even quiver dance.
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>>31285474
Surge Surfer or Speed Boost.
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>>31286133
>77/70/108/145/100/0

yes
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>>31285474
Why would it not need speed? If it's Attack and Speed were switched it would've been solid and balanced than a special version of Rampardos.
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>>31285474
Just give it more move variety and a special electric priority. That's it. Right now it's a special Scizor with more weaknesses and no priority.
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>>31285594
have an auto trick room terrain/weather ability
I've been saying this since gen 4 but nooooo
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Either drastically increase it's bulk, or give it some signature priority move.

Or some signature attack that has an analytic effect.

Even though it's probably supposed to be a wall breaker, it's not even fast enough to outspeed walls, as I was just amazed to find out tentacruel has 100 speed, skarmory has 70 speed, and even hippowdon outspeeds it at 47.

If Vikavolt can OHKO ferrothorn with HP fire, it would be the ONLY notable thing it could do as a wall breaker, but I'm too lazy to calc
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>>31286481

What moves could they add that would help it out, but also make at least a little thematic sense. I can only think of quiver dance.
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>>31286311
sauce
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>>31286630
252+ SpA Vikavolt Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 168 SpD Ferrothorn: 240-284 (68.1 - 80.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
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Right now, what's the more reasonable Vikavolt to run? Modest nuke or Bold bulky buge?
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>>31286669

Just awful

Vikavolt was supposed to be my new bro. My new ace

My current favorite is Yanmega, so it's not a case of "only OU/ubers pokemon can be my favorite" but I gave vikavolt so many chances and it drained me dry
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>>31286741
Nuke in TR
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>>31285474
Fuck off.

If anything in Slowpoke: The Gen needed more speed, it's this thing and probably Crabominable
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>>31285474
Electric version of Water Bubble
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>>31286802
are you suggesting we fix the nuke by making the nuke nuke more, or making the nuke more like rampardos, which is a nuke that nukes more?
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>>31286802

>also makes you immune to sleep and reduces the power of flying attacks

I'd main it
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give it no guard and zap cannon.
Also maybe parabolic charge for recovery.
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>>31286827
I think it'd be fun to have a regional bug who has the ability to nuke the fuck out of things just by using its STAB moves.
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>>31286827

Not him, but yes. Vikavolt is bulky enough to almost always take one attack, but just one. If it can't OHKO the opponent, then it loses flat out.
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