Defend this

>>31278812
They are the best starters and partners you could ever wish for!

>>31278835
Worse than gen 5

I can't.

>>31278812
You were a denialfag.
Done

>>31278812

A-at least their typings are interesting

r-right...?

>>31278812
Decidueye
Defense complete

>>31278840
let's not get crazy

>>31278812
I won't defend the trannyseal.
Decidueye is godtier

I like all three of them, which is nice.

Disappointed that there isn't a single quadruped fire starter, but overall, at least 7/10 in my book.

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>>31278812
Don't like Primarina as much as the phox, but she is pretty nice and feminine desu.

>>31278812
as a trio they're far better than the starters from unova

primarina in particular is a great design, she's one of my all time favs

>>31278812
All shit.

Tiger is boring
Seal is repulsive
Owl is fucking stupid, see the "arm bow" pasta

>>31278812
I actually like them all.

Firecat standing is dumb, but I'm somewhat okay with it, because he is really well animated.

>>31278812
They look cool and are the best starters we got since Gen IV.

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>>31278812
Primarina is cute, has a nice typing, and a solid UU mon.

Incineroar looks like a fun guy, its 3d model has a lot of character, and has a good HA+fakeout for doubles.

Decidueye has a neat design/cool concept and a dedicated fanbase.

Decidueye is a good design, the biggest negative is the feather fingers look slightly odd but that's a fairly minor criticism.

Primarina isn't THAT bad. It's not the best design but not horrible either. My main problem is it's too waifubait-y.

Incineroar is disgusting and I won't try to defend it.

>>31278840
>not liking grass snek
>not liking fire ganon
Fuck off.

Samurott is pretty shit though I'll admit.

Assault vest primarina is magic!

what's this hating primarina meme?

>>31279465
Hey Grass Snake is great. Why do you think I said worse than gen 5?

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>>31279465
>not liking a literal samurai with dual wielding blades
Why do people not love Samurott?

I don't think anybody apart from Gen VII shills can defend the way Game Freak cucked Decidueye and Incineroar with stat spreads that poorly attempted to make them mixed attackers when things like Decidueye's HP or Incineroar's speed could have used some of the points that went towards their special attack and the fact that Liquid Voice is shit.

>>31279589
Because they are faggots.
Samurott > Primarina

Primarina is the only one who made it out intact. I liked all the first forms of the starters this gen and even the secondaries, but RIP litten who's anatomy got butchered along with noodle arms owl.

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>>31279629
>the official artists will almost always be outclassed by fans when it comes to drawing decidueye and incineroar
How do you fuck up this hard?

>>31279171
where can I see this pasta?

>>31279658
John Gamefreak took a vacation to CalArts.

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>>31279589
People still aren't used to the big evolutionary shift from Dewott(whos literally just a two shelled Oshawott). Which really annoys me greatly as it still expands the shell samurai theme but in a different visual form.
>>31279465
>not liking fire ganon
You do realize Emboar is the 3RD Fire/Fighting in row right? That hate it receives is 100% justified because its nothing but a redundant mess.

>>31279745
Also one of the biggest problem with Emboar is that iirc we don't have a single 4 legged boar Pokemon.
They clearly wasted a lot of opportunities here

>>31278812
Decidueye is the best looking grass type starter.

Premarina is a better Wifu bait then delphox

And incineroar well...uuuu...I don't think I know how to defend this.

Best trio since Gen 4.

>>31280038
>Incineroar is a better wrestler than Emboar and isn't fighting
Done

>>31279171

Such in-depth "criticism".

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>>31278812
>>31278840
>>31278849
>>31279054
>>31279171
>>31279366
>>31279629

>>31280094
Emboar at least looks intimidating. Incineroar is not getting any points for "looking badass" with those swollen hands and noodle anatomy.

And it doesn't matter if it's not part fighing, it shares a shitload of design cues with the other fire/fighting starters. I think in general, people are tired of that "humanoid muscular fighter with an animal head" aesthetic, not necessarely the typing itself.

>>31280302
Litten stopped being a perfectly good fire tiger to become a furfag Tiger Mask
Popplio decided to become a Barbie
And Rowlet, made it somewhat okay, but the noodle anatomy strikes again

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>>31278812
defend these

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>>31280408
>Popplio decided to become a Barbie
>Implying that isn't the most logical transition from a seal

>>31280432
>Alolafags realize internally their starters are so shit, they don't even try to defend them, instead they just attempt to shit on other starters

Snivy evolves into a an actual, and not humanoid trash, and looks pretty elegant and it's pretty good with its HA to boot.
Tepig fell into the whole "humanoid fighter" meme, but at least its limbs are not noodles. Looks kinda intimidating, I guess
Samurott doesn't really work on land, but it has a neat helmet, awesome facial hair and a good cry.

>>31280408
Emboar is a fat fuck and is not intimidating

>>31280432
>Appeals to scalies
>Appeals to furfags with a fat fetish
>Appeals to quadrupedfags

>>31280432
>alola starters
All Garbage

>unova starters
One is pretty good, another is disappointing but not abysmal, one is garbage

>>31280478
better being bearmode and having actual joints on limbs, than having an extremely humanoid body, except the legs are hilariously tiny, and the arms are just rubber tubes that bend in the middle

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>>31280432
Even though I hate Emboar's guts they're better than Gen 2's starters(generic designs shielded by nostalgia).

>>31278812
>not storing your starter as soon as you get something better

>>31280474
Miltoic did it better

>>31280528
>Milotic
>A seal

>>31280477
>>Alolafags realize internally their starters are so shit, they don't even try to defend them, instead they just attempt to shit on other starters

That's a lot of assumption you're pulling out of your ass, buddy.

>>31280528
Miltoic and Primarina don't share the same theme. Miltoic's purpose is it's beauty. Primarina is more of a singer.

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>>31280504
>thinking the Alola starters are as bad as Samurott

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>>31278812
ok

>>31280598
>Samurott still doesn't get Shell Smash

>>31280626
If GF thinks Kommo-o is liable to learn Shell Smash (judging from the BF), I think Samurott has a chance

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>>31280432
>basically Meganium, just with less bulk and more speed
>the third fire/fighting starter
>a forgettable water pokemon
I can't.

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>>31279366
>Incineroar is disgusting and I won't try to defend it.
>But I'll defend a 80% male, yet "feminine" mermaid seal.
A closet homo is what ye be, for no man can look at a feminine man with a positive gesture.

Enjoy your singing tranny, faggot.

>>31280765
>muh gender ratio

>>31280408
>"If a Pokemon isn't badass or cute, its shit".
>"Pokemon can't look cartoony."
>A color swap of Raikou/Luxray/Solgaleo/Liepard/Persian for Litten final evolution would bmore original than Incineroar because "m-muh 4 legged"

>>31280765
Tranny seal is only a problem in this game because you have to play through 20 minutes of cutscene every time you have to reset for a girl. While that is a flaw in the game design, it's not a flaw in the Pokémon design.

>>31280856
>Its a bad design because i don't like it
Well then i guess Primarina is a shit design because i don't like it right ?

>>31280875
>Its a bad design because i don't like it

Where did I say that? I was defending Primarina's design. I was shitting on the game's design for making you wait until 5 minutes before the end of the dam game to choose your starter.

>>31280887
Then i guess i'm dumb.

>>31278812
So, do most people not realize that these mons are just a continuation from last gen's "RPG Job" theme, or maybe they just don't care?

Greninja -> Assassin/Ninja
Chesnaught -> Tank/Paladin
Delphox -> Mage/Caster

Primarina -> Bard/Songstress
Incineroar -> Monk/Brawler
Decidueye -> Archer/Ranger

I thought it was kinda neat that they continued that trend, but then again, I'm a JRPGfag.

>>31280479

>The faithful Tepig

>>31280945

Holy shit I thought I was the only one.

>>31278812
Primarina looks cool, Decidueye is meh and Incineroar is incredibly uncreative and just shows that they're ignoring their fans, but I could see why one might like it, even though it's complete and utter trash. They look better than gen 2, 5 and 6.

>>31278812
I don't like Decidueye's weird wings, Incineroar's sausage fingers and Primarina's spikes. Other than that there's nothing wrong with them aside from Decidueye's stats and ability/Incineroar's speed and moveset/Primarina's HP, signature move and ability.

>>31280528
>>31280580
Funnily enough Primarina is more beautiful than Milotic for many people.

>Decidueye is cool to a degree without being overly edgy
>Incineroar is a really fun design that's bursting with character
>Primarina is cute and very lovely
This generation's starters can appeal to anyone no matter what, if you like cool, goofy or cute! Also they're all like UU probably. Legit my fav starters since gen 3

>>31280851
Oh wow, look at all those fallacies and strawmen.

>If a Pokemon isn't badass or cute, its shit
Incineroar is clearly meant to look badass and intimidating. It also fails completely

>Pokemon can't look cartoony
The same way that putting a Steven Universe character (a cartoon) on a episode of 90s X-Men (also a cartoon) would look very out of place, Incineroar also looks out of place compared to other fully-evolved pokémon meant to look intimidating because the anatomy is straight outta a Space Jam villain.

>A color swap of Raikou/Luxray/Solgaleo/Liepard/Persian for Litten final evolution would bmore original than Incineroar because "m-muh 4 legged"
And my favorite strawmen by Incineroarfags, of course there is no possible way they could implement secondaries themes on a 4-legged tigers. Nevermind all those tiger myths they could use or other themes not even related to tigers (like the cannon Litten that came with the Ballio batch), nope, a 4-legged Litten would totally be unispired and original.

Fun thing is, a regular fire tiger would actually be more original than Incineroar, because fire tigers are not a thing in Pokémon, while humanoid fire brawlers are.

>>31280945
But I want to raise pets, not level up a RPG character.

The whole JRPG angle is not that bad by itself, but when it's pushed so hard most recent starters end up looking awkward or humanoid trash, it becomes an issue

>>31281035
I enjoyed that Litten fake evo but you gotta admit its just a jaguar that would get shitted on for being "Literally my mom's jaguar"

gen 7; gen 6; gen 3; gen 4; gen 1; gen 5; gen 2
rate my unbiased and clearly superior taste :^)

>>31279589
Because it went from a samurai to a paraplegic samurai

>>31281035
Ho boy here we go, this is gonna be fun.

>Incineroar is clearly meant to look badass and intimidating. It also fails completely
Source: My ass
Incineroar is based on a Heel, cartoonish and over the top villain that are supposed to be intimidating for CHILDRENS and look kinda ridiculous and funny to adults.

>Incineroar also looks out of place compared to other fully-evolved pokémon
Ho yeah, fully evolved pokemon with cartoon proportions don't exist let's totally forget Pokemons like Dragonite or Conkeldurr exist.

>a regular fire tiger would actually be more original than Incineroar, because fire tigers are not a thing in Pokémon, while humanoid fire brawlers are.
"We can't have a cat heel wrestler we already got a Bird and a Pig wrestler !!!"
Well in this case we can't have a mythical Tiger
because we already got Raikou and Arcanine looks a lot like a fire tiger.

Also:
>Wanting the Litten fan-evo from the Ballio leak.
You literally want a fucking fire persian with a bland design that would make Typhlosion look like an overdesigned Pokemon.
At least ask for something cool based on a animal we don't have in Pokemon yet like a CHEETAH (that would be dope tbrh).

>>31280477
>Snivy evolves into a an actual, and not humanoid trash
Probably just because it is hard to design a humanoid snake

>>31281106
Right to left is slightly less shit than left to right. Gen 5 was 100% the worst in the series. It goes
1. Gen 2

2. Gen 4

3. Gen 1

4. Gen 6

5. Gen 3

6. Gen 7

7. Gen 5

>>31281227
Gen 1 is literally only good because the other ones were so bad. It's the perfect "average" pokemon game.

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>>31280604
not so fast

>>31281227
>Gen 2 at the top
I'm sorry anon i can't let you do that.
They are clearly among the worst and are only saved by nostalgia

>>31278812
Decidueye is a ghost-type that can learn false swipe, which is GOAT for SOS chaining

>>31281227
>1. Gen 2
Hey, wow, nice job instantly telling everyone to disregard your taste.
Defending literal rehashes with 0% originality and bad designs to boot. Only a Sinnohfetus. I know HGSS were the first passable Pokemon games you ever played, but christ.

>>31280945
Neat.

>>31281267
Gen Two wasn't good by any means, but it was a 100% better than any of the other trash tier games nintendo has made.

>Gen one

Literally the definition of average. Only NostalgiaFags like this.

>Gen Three

Lol.

>Gen Four
Shit outside of the elite four.

>gen 5
Undoubtedly the worst game I've ever played. Boring overall.

>gen 6
Officially the point where you should give up on pokemon games. It had no story, Rival or challenge. Second worst game gamefreak has made.

>gen 7
Disapointment.

>>31281476
This. Objectively there has not been a good pokemon game ever.

>>31281174
>Incineroar is based on a Heel, cartoonish and over the top villain that are supposed to be intimidating for CHILDRENS and look kinda ridiculous and funny to adults.
I guess if you ignore all that lore in pokemonsunmoon.com where they describe Incineroar as looking vicious and scary. It even has Intimidate as HA, just like things like Gyarados and Luxray. Incineroar is meant to be intimidating. It fails hard at that.

>Ho yeah, fully evolved pokemon with cartoon proportions don't exist let's totally forget Pokemons like Dragonite or Conkeldurr exist.
I like how you purposely "forgot" the end of my sentence. Let me help you
>"...meant to look intimidating"
Sure Incineroar doesn't look out of place compared to blobs like Clefable, but put it alongside the Fire/Fighting starters, or Feraligatr, and the difference starts to show

>Well in this case we can't have a mythical Tiger
Sabertooth tigers are not tigers, despite the name, and Arcanine is one of those chines dog/lion things. Keep in mind though that "mythical felyne" is a lot more broader concept than "humanoid fire starter with a human body and an animal head, based on a very specific martial art"

>You literally want a fucking fire persian with a bland design that would make Typhlosion look like an overdesigned Pokemon.
Still better than Incineroar. Also little detail is not bad. Jaguar is a design that works well with little stuff going on. When you try to make everything over-the-top you get turds like Incineroar

>>31281476
he's right you know.

>>31281521
Why did they give Incineroar such terrible proportions if they wanted to emphasise terror?

>>31281561
I assume it's because animating rubber limbs that awkwardly bend on the middle is easier to do than scultping an animating limbs with actual proportions and details like Machamp's arms

>>31279366
>My main problem is it's too waifubait-y.

This waifubait meme has gone too far

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It has been the first time I liked all three starter's designs since gen 3 I think. It was a really tough choice to choose for one. But I guess my favorite is Decidueye because it's exactly what Rowlet final stage should be in my opinion

>>31281035
>Space Jam villain.
Oh, it's that guy again

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I will get my clients a complete acquittal!

Assault Vest Primarina is love.

>>31281567
So basically they couldn't be fucked putting in the effort just like most of everything else they do?

>>31279745
L m a o my friend. Emboar's design doesn't suffer because of the Type redundancy. In fact, that has nothing to do with the design. Because really, Emboar's design conveys better than what it's supposed to be than Samurott.

>>31281683
GF's mediocrity in some points is not an excuse. There are pokémon in this very gen like Golisopod, Kommo-o, Solgaleo, the UBs and others that GF actually bothered to make an effort to give them decent proportions and anatomy

They need to stop with starters imo. It was cool for the first couple gens waiting to see the new starters and their evo's but now I just expect disappointment. Same with legendaries, they need to really cut back on the amount of them, give them an interesting story kinda like with nebby. We don't need the genies, the fairies, the swords of justice, all the tapu's. The random legends can be okay but some stuff is just terrible like victini, phione, shaymin, cresselia.

>>31278812

The unifying theme of emotion and growth between all three of them played out in well done and interesting ways.

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>>31278812
What's there to defend? I couldn't ask for anything better than this

>>31281893
not even actually good-looking starters?

>>31281986
Why would i want "good-looking" starters when I have amazing-looking starters? Maybe Decidueye could have been a little better on the stats distribution, though.

>>31282002
>amazing looking starters

Am I being baited?

>>31282012
I mean, it's ok if you don't like them but most people do.
...Am I being baited?

>>31281521
>It even has Intimidate as HA, just like things like Gyarados and Luxray. Incineroar is meant to be intimidating. It fails hard at that.
Do you also think Growlithe is mean to look scary?

>>31282042
I see nothing but hate thrown at Incineroar across Twitter and other normie accounts. Primarina is a shitfest 24/7. Decidueye seems to have a somewhat positive reception

>>31282069
It was of course given with Arcanine in mind. Same for Shinx.

And even then, an agressive doggo with size of Growlithe is hella scary

>>31282087
You'd shit your pants at a bipedal, aggressive tiger that knew how to wrestle if it was real.

>>31282099
I'd probably laugh, because his tiny legs wouldn't be able to hold the massive upper body and arms and it would fall before taking a single step. And even it it tried to punch me with those swollen hands, the wrists of a 4-year old girl would probably break on contact with my body and it wouldn't be able to muster a lot of force

>>31282109
>Scared shitless of a cute puppy
>Yet this impossible looking contorted abomination spinning rapidly at me will probably make me laugh

Who are you trying to fool

>>31282124
Because even if it tries to attack me it will fail. Those pathetic legs will collapse imemdiately, the wrists will break, and 5 seconds in, the only way Incineroar can hurt you is if you're dumb enough to get withing biting range

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>>31282136
But what if Incineroar had good proportions?

>>31282143
>Lanklet Incineroar

stop this

>>31282143
Then it would be somewhat scary. Too bad GF will never retcon it to have decent proportions

>>31282136
It really isn't as bad as you're making it out to be. There are plently of actual wristlets/curlbros IRL and they function just fine despite looking weird.

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>>31282150
Fine, anon. Is this one better?

>>31282159
>wristlets/curlbros IRL
But they don't have gigantic hands able to wrap around a human head unlike Incineroar

>>31282171
I doubt it would make much of a difference in combat. Trying to hold things with any sort of precision would be a bitch though.

>>31282180
Hold a metal ball, or something equally heavy on your hand and try to punch something. You'll notice a huge strain on your wrist.

Now keep in mind, Incineroar's hands are 4x/5x the size of a human hand, while having a comparatively tiny child-like wrist

>>31282072
I see really positive reception for Primarina and Decidueye from normies on Twitter, the only hate i see is from shitposters/falseflaggers here on /vp/. I don't know about Incineroar because I don't really care as much, but it seems to be getting a lot of art so I doubt is hated as much as you say.

>>31282154
Does anybody know if there's an adult equivalent to the Make a Wish Foundation?

>>31282072
>giving a shit about what normies think

Apex kek my friend

>>31282213
>Now keep in mind, Incineroar's hands are 4x/5x the size of a human hand, while having a comparatively tiny child-like wrist
>Exaggerating this hard

>>31282370
when you start the argument with "most people like it", normie places are fair game

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>>31282429
That wasn't me, I just detected someone mentioning normies

>>31278812
Kanto Starters > Sinnoh Starters > Hoenn Starters > Johto Starters > Alola Starters > Kalos Starters >>> Unova Starters desu

>>31282213
I feel it more on the forearm than the wrist itself. And I really don't think Incineroar's wrists are going to crumple on the slightest bit of action because "LMAO WRISTLET" when actual wristlets are still capable of becoming strong and lifting heavy.

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>>31281750
>the Type redundancy. In fact, that has nothing to do with the design
It actually does, becuase it's typing is the main reason why they designed Tepig to take the anthropomorphic route. Doesn't the design loose originality points? They even rehashed Infernape's concept while designing Emboar
>Emboar's design conveys better than what it's supposed to be than Samurott.
So Samurott doesn't convey that its supposed to be an underwater warrior? Do you even know shit about character design?

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>>31278840

It's diverse, they're all unique and have their own personalities.

The fact that you hate it shows what a asshole you are. I want you to put you're heart and soul into drawing a Pokémon starter with its evolutions, all 3 of them. Then when you're finished, I look at them for a second and say their shit, then, rip it up in front of you.

Stop criticizing the work of GF.

>>31280693
>smugsnek=meganium
contrary alone makes it one of the best if not the best grass starters. and that is although it has no movepool.

>>31282764
>t. apologist

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>>31278812
3 > 1 = 2 > 4 > 5 = 7 > 6

>>31282764
I like the Alola starters but this kind of thinking is cancer my man. It's okay to want better things from a product or service that you're paying good money for.

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6 > 3 > 4 = 7 = 2 > 5 = 1

>Thinking starters will be good
>Ever

I've boxed them every Gen. They've always been shit, and will always be shit.

>>31282764
Are you the guy who designed the starters?

Because they fucking suck

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>>31282789
>It's okay to want better things from a product or service that you're paying good money for.
Not the anon you replied to, but people seriously expected better from these starters? They seem like quality designs to me. They don't even share the same "appeal" aesthetic(there is a cool/calm one,tough/beastly one,an elegant/pretty one). They really did a good job with making each one feel "unique" this time.

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I don't really want to hate Incineroar but over all I just find it disappointing. In game its lackluster defenses can't cover up its lame speed stat.
And design wise honestly I think we should have got a tiger before Tiger Mask.
I dont think I'd have that much of a problem with its design if, like Typhlosion, it could transition between a biped and a quadruped and if it had thicker wrists and forearms and shorter fingers.
That's it. Designs fixed

>>31282537
>Kanto Starters
>Good
Opinion discarded.

>>31278812

You are the one who thinks they need to be defended.

Decidueye is the best starter ever made.
The other two are ugly furfag shitlord that are also shit competitively.

This thread is over now.

>>31278840
I always thought Samurott looked fine. Actually, I think it looks the best of the 3 Unova starters without having a design as bland as Serperior's.

>>31280856
>Letting the gender of a Pokemon affect you to this degree.

>>31278812
Made a bunch of internet morons shit their pants and cry about it.

Everything I wanted and more from these starters.

The best starters since gen 4

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>>31283444
But anon, Decidueye is the best of the three for love and lewd.

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>>31281227
>1. Gen 2

>>31279745
what with the current opinions I've seen here recently bipedal Samurott would probably get complaints about being barabait or too humanlike or whatever nonsense

>>31282012
>He doesn't realize that opinions can differ from his own.

Underage, gfto. I suggest you return to school and properly finish your education this time because your teachers obviously failed you.

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>>31278812
At least its not digimon

I really don't get why people don't like them

>>31282595
Kek. Does Emboar even have a theme like the other two do?

>>31278835
>>31278852
>>31278849
found the furfag

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>>31281597
or not

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>>31283805
Zhang Fei

>>31280945
double battles in the main game when
single battles are an unfun faceroll, double battles would let pokemon work off eachother instead of playing rock paper scissors on who has the better coverage/speed

>>31280432
Samurott gets a lot of undue hate IMO. It's exactly what it's supposed to be and looks fine. I think most people are just upset it's quadrupedal (as if a sea lion wouldn't be) and mono Water (which is boring, but not really a flaw).

Emboar should've been Fire/Ground and an actual boar instead of the ugly sumo shit we got.

The only problem I have with Serperior (and the Snivy line as a whole) is its head looks weird.

>>31280945
I like this theme, but that still doesn't excuse the fact that the Alola starters look like dogshit.

>>31280945
Primarina -> Tumblrina
Incineroar -> Happy merchant
Decidueye -> Nerd

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>>31278812

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>>31284240
ehehehe

>>31284095
i wonder how furfags feel about samurott
also snivy and servine are fine - serperior's head is a little awkward but some artists pull it off better than othres

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>>31284095
I feel that its on four legs normally so it would use it's helmet like a spear better. They probably remembered that Oshawott's shell is used like a weapon. So any shell Samurott wears would provide an offensive purpose too.

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>>31283444
>trips wasted on this falseflagging

>>31284226
>Incineroar -> Happy merchant
What logic is that?

>>31278812
3 > 4 > 1 > 6 > 2 > Hillary Clinton's geriatric diapers > 5

>>31282872

Do you think your opinion is special?

Because it fucking sucks.

>>31282789
>It's okay to want better things from a product or service that you're paying good money for.

The problem here is that whether a Pokemon design is good or not is totallly subjective. This isn't a flaw in game design we're talking about here.

>>31281521
>they describe Incineroar as looking vicious and scary.
They also describe him to be really nice with childrend and don't like to fight injure opponents.

>Sure Incineroar doesn't look out of place compared to blobs like Clefable, but put it alongside the Fire/Fighting starters, or Feraligatr, and the difference starts to show.
Yeah, because Dragonite and Conkeldur really are supposed to look cute and cuddly right ?
Also Primarina is the first cute and feminine Water stater and it don't seems to bother you for some strange reasons.

>Keep in mind though that "mythical felyne" is a lot more broader concept than "humanoid fire starter with a human body and an animal head, based on a very specific martial art".
Then again you are totally avoiding my point, why Incineroar shouldn't exist when you want swap color of a concept with already have.
Also "A lot more borader" ? why is this an argument when one of your example is a recolor of an already existing Pokemon ? i can answer then Incineroar look nothing like Emboar (also Emboar is actually based on a soldier character from the story Romance of the three Kinfgome, not a wrestler)

>Still better than Incineroar.
Opinion, i think Litten is the weakest of the whole line because its literally just a black cat. And this evolution look boring as shit

In the end, you have no argument except that you have different tastes.

>>31284240
Underrated post

>>31278840
Gen 5 starters are fucking garbage

This thread got me curious so I looked at Pixiv to see the amount of art for the SM starter final evos. I know Pixiv isn't necessarily representative of general opinions, but the results I found were about what I expected.

>Decidueye
537 31 or 5.8% of it R-18
>Primarina
479 56 or 11.7% of it R-18
>Incineroar
387 43 or 11.1% of it R-18

Decidueye is most popular, Primarina in the middle, Incineroar trailing both of them. It's interesting because Litten used to be pretty close behind Rowlet in terms of popularity but after the final stages were officially revealed, it and Popplio switched places. It doesn't surprise me that Incineroar is the most divisive and controversial of the 3. A good number of people didn't care for the direction it took.

You guys have nice opinions and whatnot, but these really are the best to worst:

> Gen3
> Gen1
> Gen4
> Gen6
> Gen7
> Gen2
> Gen5

>>31287542
Switch Gen 7(all are good) with Gen 6(all but Fire is good)
and Gen 5(all but Fire is good) with Gen 2(only Water is good) and then its pretty accurate.

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>>31287183
For some odd reason Incineroar is the most popular starter in refresh for the second time while Decidueye was popular for only few days and Primarina as yet to appear.

>>31280479
Fat fetish... you got that right :^)

>>31287646
Not that anon, but I guess he's popular among people with no drawing skils too.

Because of that, I think a better way to check their popularity would be Refresh and how much merchandise (like plushies) is sold

I hate them, I'm not with animals anymore I am the chosen one who has these Pokémon.

>very specified detailed descriptions about how they act
>all wearing human articles as defining features
>all traits about them revolve around human activities

Fuck these things

>>31287728
I still think Decidueye is probably the most popular starter (even if he is kinda outshined by Rowlet).
But i guess your right.

>it's not actually a fighter!
>it's a heel
>it's just a type of fighter!

This is like saying God I hope I'm not stung by bees today and it turns out you were stung by wasps instead!

I feel like they're ok. Not great, not horrendous, just ok. I think that's fine for starters because they're just that, starters.

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The only starter where all three stages are good.

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>>31287766
>giving in-depth information about these Pokemon is bad
>Pokemon have to be 100% animal based or they're bad

>>31287876
>marshtomp
i love the swampert line, but if you want a line where all 3 look good id choose Charizard line

>>31287876
single favorite starter of all time
even the other gen 3 ones were great
why do people dislike them?

>>31287895
It just complelty nullifies the ascpect of natures and turns your poker monsters into pre-defined characters that only you can have. Like if there's only one of them in the series

Also Magnezone is great

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>everyone loves the owl
>no love for supperior spooky seaweed
Dhelmise deserve better.

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>>31287822
>He thinks wrestling is real

>>31287968
No it's all bullshit, but there's still archetypes of fighters in it

>>31287876

>marshtomp

I love Mudkip/Swampert but Marshtomp is an abortion

>>31287924

>choosing from LITERALLY JUST GETS BIGGER: THE GEN

>>31287981
I mean, if you're looking at it like that then all the Pokemon should be fighting type because they're doing pokemon BATTLE.

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>>31287924
Charmeleon looks like shit. My problem with most starters is they all seem to follow thecsame concept.
>stage 1: pretty cute and appealing
>stage 2: ugly filler
>stage 3: dull as fuck
Even my favorite starter, cyndaquil, suffers this. I adore cyndaquil but quilava and typholsion are unappraling. The johto startes have such great first stages then it gets ruined when they evolve.
>>31287957
Treecko and mudkip lines are pretty good, especially mudkip line. Torchic is cute but it's evolutions are pretty ugly.

>>31288040
That's why fighting type is my least favorite type

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>>31287965
Decidueye is an animal-based pokemon that is also a starter. Of course its getting more attention than the haunted anchor.

>>31288014
While weakest I still think it's a appealing design. Better then the abortions that are most other starter's first evolution.

1st gen i boxed the starter right off the bat lol

>>31287876
>chimchar

>>31288165
same lol
I used a rowlet but once it evolved it turned fucking ugly, looked up the third evolution and I couldn't find a way to justify keeping it with those shit stats

It took me some time, but I finally got used to them all.

They're still kinda mediocre looking, honestly speaking. People are just finding them best starters ever because they're now more "relatable" than ever, which was what Game Freak intended in the first place, but who gives a crap about what I say, everything Game Freak does is gold as long they're the ones doing it. As the nitpicky person that I am, maybe I found myself relating to Decidueye the most, ayy.

>>31281016

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, nig.