Which region is the best design-wise?

>>31269270
OP here, forgot poll.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12053627

Overall, I don't think I can decide.
However:
Hoenn is my favorite design-wise.
Unova felt fresh with the available pokemon (I was a big fan of a brand-new set before being able to see anything from older gens)
Sinnoh felt most like an adventure to me, despite being my least-favorite games.
Kanto or Johto have the best layout, I feel.

>>31269270
Platinum Sinnoh would be 10/10 if the cities had more grass IMO, Hoenn would be my second choice because it offers tons of different biomes and some of the most beautiful towns in the franchise (yeah yeah, water routes, get over it at least you can skip that with dive)

>>31269270
Any but Sinnoh.

Most obnoxious region with HM usage.

Cut
Fly
Surf
Strength
Defog (Outdoors Flash)
Rock Smash
Waterfall
Rock Climb (Onland Waterfall)

Cycling road rehashed from Kanto and Hoenn, Solaceon Ruins rehashed Ruins of Alph from Johto etc

Almost all of the caves in the region (there's a lot of them) recycle the same graphics and music and aren't distinguishable from one another.

The Snow and Marsh routes were a pain to traverse.

Route 216
Route 217
The whole route is covered in snow, meaning that it is impossible to ride a bicycle. In some places, the snow is so deep that it cannot be run through and as a result of the snow.

Route 212
A marsh tile is a special tile introduced in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. When the player walks on these tiles, they may become stuck in an unseen hole and unable to move.

>>31269301
you missed Sinnoh

>>31269351
At least flash, defog and waterfall aren't required for 90% of the game, rock climbing becomes less obnoxious after marking the 4-5 optional locations where you need it and saving the last usage for sunnyshore and the victory road

I give you the victory road, Hoenn had the same bullshit and i still hate needing to box one of my main pokémon to carry a slave around

>>31269351
>The whole route is covered in snow, meaning that it is impossible to ride a bicycle. In some places, the snow is so deep that it cannot be run through and as a result of the snow.
Don't forget Snowpoint being as empty as a skyrim city, it wasn't even "comfy" empty, just empty, they could have at least given it unique houses to match that "disconnected with the outside world" vibe

>>31269270
oh hey look! it's the region that people of alola wouldn't shut up about.

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>>31269353
Good.

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>>31269828

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>>31269828
>Wayward cave
Oh god its all coming back

>>31269353
OP here.

I didn't include it since by all standards its really poorly designed

>>31269937
Based.

>>31269937
Honestly, I think it's better than Unova, or at least B/W1 Unova which was the most boring region I've been through.

>>31269937
>doesn't include Sinnoh
>includes boring, linear, bland Unova

Not based tbqh.

I'll be voting for Hoenn

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>>31270742
>I think it's better than Unova,

>>31269937
>implying you are OP
Biased polls belong in the trash, if there is no room for doubt might as well just move to reddit where "consensus is found"

>>31269828
>>31269853
The Sinnoh games are some of the ugliest in the franchise. It's amazing how much HGSS and BW/BW2 improved over them in terms of visuals.

>>31270759
At least Unova had varied looking locations like>>31269853 and >>31269828

Plus pokemon has always been linear in some shape or form.

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>>31270941
>>31270923
>>31270898
>>31270872
>>31270844
>>31270815
>>31269853
>>31269828
Man, I'll looking forward to the remakes just because of this. Sinnoh looks ugly even when compared to HG/SS

>>31269828
>>31269853
>>31270815
>>31270844
>>31270872
>>31270898
>>31270923
>>31270941
delete this

>disregards sinnoh
sinnoh is the one that feels most like a region, though. you put "design wise" as title and then mentioned regional dex, which has nothing to do with region design
sinnoh forces you not only to backtrack the most, but coronet is the best location as location since it's fucking gigantic and you cross it at least 3 times, different parts each time, making it more like an actual mountain instead of "bigger cave"

shit on sinnoh all you want, but if you go for design wise, actually go for design, and not outside factors like HMs and regional dex since those aren't Sinnoh, they're DPPt.

>>31269937
BASED

>>31270786
kek

>>31270786
B/W2 Unova is fine, but B/W1 Unova just feels bare and boring.

>Hoennshitters and Unovabortions leading the poll
>Sinnoh not even listed
is this bait?

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>>31271037
>mentioned regional dex, which has nothing to do with region design
> but if you go for design wise,actually go for design, and not outside factors like HMs and regional dex since those aren't Sinnoh, they're DPPt.

>>31271037
>Sinnoh is the one that feels most like a region
wat

>>31271037
>Coronet is the best location as location
>Game forces you to backtrack it
>Tons of zubat/golbat unless you spam repel
>Mandatory use of HMs and HM slaves in order to explore it
>YOU LITERALLY NEED TO USE AN HM EVERY 2 STEPS
>The HM animations are SLOW

You're right anon, there's a lot of fun there

All these ridiculous posts. Obviously biased poll. Makes me ashamed to call myself a Unovabortion.

>>31271216
>mount coronet
>bad

this is how to spot a pleb

>>31270815
>>31270844
>>31270872
>>31270898
>>31270923
>>31270941
>>31269853
>>31269828
>tries to make Unova look good
>can't because of those hideous sprites

O im laffin

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>>31271256
The only thing that looks bad is Sinnoh.
Stay mad

>>31271190
gen 2/5/6 are >go to town >beat town
leave and never come back again
that's not a region, might as well use stages at that point
the only thing slightly comforting about kalos is lumiose

>>31269270
Kanto is not Rural

>>31271037
>sinnoh forces you not only to backtrack the most
Are you trying to list this as a positive thing? Backtracking to places you've already been to doesn't suddenly make it a well-designed region, or render the legitimately awful design choices null and void.

>>31271216
this right here is a common specimen of an anon who can't separate the games from the region

>>31271976
>hurr just use your imagination XD

>>31269270
Johto is the best thematically and conceptually, albeit with a poor representation. However, that downside is strictly due to restrictions in both 4th and 2nd generation. 2nd gen due to technical issues of the time, and 4th for being a direct remake.

Regional dex is hard to criticize as well, for it's only the 2nd generation.

Unova is an upside down version of Johto, and therefore practically equal. By that I mean the duality of modern life and a traditional one.

>>31271256
Are you really trying to say DP looks better in all of those pictures? I prefer 4th generation sprites as well, but come on.

>>31271348
This is an issue with pacing in game, not a regional issue.

>>31271992
That's the point of the thread. You're looking for gen wars.

Alola without question.

However, alola is the worst when it comes to a dynamic landscape

>>31269301
>Unova is second in the poll
>It's literally a fucking circle
You guys have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, do you?

>>31272265
see >>31271976
This is such a stupid argument anyway. There is practically no difference from any other region seeing as you're still traveling in a line irregardless of direction. Also >>31271887

>>31269270
>>31269301
Sinnoh sucks
But in no way does Kalos deserve to be on that list either

>>31271348
>leave and never cone back
This does not describe Johto or Unova at all

>>31272092
Very good taste

>>31269937
Top kek

>>31271321
>gets BTFO
>S-Sinnoh looks like shit too though!

Kek, cry moar, cuck.

>>31273589
>gets BTFO
How? By you being delusional.
>S-Sinnoh looks like shit too though!
>too
Sinnoh looking like shit was his original point, you're the one who went "Unova is shit too."

>>31271256
You dont really beleive Sinnoh looks better in even half of those do you? Like Gen 3 before it, the remake got all the best sprites (or models, in Gen 4's case) of the generations

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>>31269828
Kinda bullshit, gen 5 came after gen 4, and gen 4 is GF's first real attempt at 3D environments.
These images are likely to have no point after a remake, if/when there is one.

>>31271037
>Backtracking
>Fun
>Backtracking through caves
>Fun

Backtracking is garbage padding anon.

>>31271037
>sinnoh forces you not only to backtrack the most,
First it was the slowness being comfy now it's this.
To what lengths will Sinnohfetus denial go?

>>31271348
>>go to town >beat town
>leave and never come back again
That's Sinnoh alright.
With that said Hoenn is the region that has you return to previous towns the most

>>31272265
I didn't even notice when I first played because it's absolutely no different from how most of the other games played out. It doesn't matter if I'm going around one big loop or a big squiggly overlapping line, the progression is the same.
Personally I really liked Unova's suburban feel. It felt less like going out and exploring the untamed wilds untouched by people and more like exploring the woods behind your house. Definitely gave it a unique vibe.

Sinnoh a shit

>>31273650
That's because Sinnoh isn't shit. Unova was the first linear and boring region in existence. Of course you get mad, since you're probably just an underage who played BW as his first games.

>>31276375
Unova was the first linear region

Sinnoh was the first boring region.

>>31276375
>That's because Sinnoh isn't shit
But it is shit.

>>31269270
>Kanto is very rural
What did he mean by this?

>>31271037
Design can refer to the game and mechanical design as well, not just the visual design. HMs are how you traverse the region. The Pokemon distribution make up the inhabitats and the wildlife. They are both important to discuss when talking about the overall region design, like how enemies and obstacles can be brought up when discussing level design in a platformer.

>>31273868
Gen 5 came later, and gen 4 may have been Gamefreak's first attempt at a game on a polygon-capable console, but 3D games had existed for years upon years. Pokemon games, albeit not made by Gamefreak, had already been released in full 3D. Diamond and Pearl are embarassing. "it was gamefreak's first try" is a shit excuse when they consistently fuck things up the first time even though these things have been common practice for other developers and in other series for years and it just took gamefreak eons to bother.