So now that the dust has settled, we can all agree that this

>>31256891
I can agree with this

Create a tier between Hall of Fame and good. Move BW and SM up into it. Move XY and ORAS into good.

Move RB down to completely replaced.

>>31256891
pretty accurate, good job OP

>>31256891
Switch SuMo with R/B

>>31256985
>SuMo

I'm tired of this gay ass shit already

>>31256924
I agree with this, but good job OP. Pretty accurate.

>>31257010
it doesnt even matter, why do you care

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>>31256891
I was expecting yet another shitposting thread but I kinda agree with this. I'm disappointed.

>>31256891
Really fucking good taste anon

>>31256891
Emerald was never good.

Stfu about your shit battle Frontier

>>31256891
Even though my first and favorite is Crystal, that's some pretty good taste.

>>31256891
just move red and Blue to replaced then it's fine
holy shit I think this is the first objectively correct thread. Good on you OP, good on you

>>31256891
Good taste.
I would move Emerald in the good tier but i guess its just my opinion.

>>31256924
Not OP but I think RB is so different from the rest of the series in its mechanics it's justified in not being in completely replaced

>>31256891
Put Yellow in good and then it's perfect.

>>31256891

Decent taste OP

>>31256891
i was gonna come here and rant about "objectively" but this is a pretty good rating. My list would be pretty much that but with xy and frlg switched

>>31256891
I can agree with this.

yeah this is about right

I'd probably move ORAS up though, and switch them with FRLG

>>31256891
Move SM down and it's perfect.

>>31257151
SM is fine where it's at.

>>31256891
Switch RB with SM and it works.

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Here's an objective list.

>>31256891
You have my taste, but in my personal opinion i would move SM to Hall of Fame replacing HGSS. Or create a tier between Hall of Fame and Good and insert SM and Black White
Red, Blue and Yellow should be moved to "Outadated"

>>31257183
Nah, BW is way better, which means SM can't share the same tier as it.

>>31257329
but XY is way worse.
SM can't share the same tier with that either.

>>31256891
switch xy and bw
swtitch rby and frlg

>>31256891
I would personally move Pt and Emerald down, but I don't mind this list at all. I wouldn't mind this being the standard "good taste."

>>31257304
I hate to admit it but I really like this one.

>>31257304
>XY
>Good

>>31257374
>XY
>Bad

>>31256891
>Am I fitting in yet: the post

>>31257342
True, there should be 5 tiers instead of 4.

>>31257304
>XY
>good
No anon, no.

>>31256891
FUCKING GREAT TASTE MY MAN!

You can't fucking pur XY with SM. SM is WAAAAAAAY better

>>31256891
I'd put SM up one, BW2 down one and ORAS up one. Then I'm fully agreed.

>>31257409
how about this?

Hall of Fame
>Emerald
>Platinum
>HGSS
>B2W2
Great Tier
>Crystal
>FRLG
>BW
Good Tier
>SM
>Not-So-Good Tier
>RB
>Yellow
>XY
>ORAS

>>31257393
Yes, they were fucking bad, literal handholding: the game, tied with ORAS in that aspect.

Shit story, shit "evil team", literally copypasted Viridian Forest, stupid as hell rivals, forgettable gyms.

And there's a lot more. The best thing that XY did for the franchise was the transition to 3D models. And that's it.

>>31257412
>Introduced trainer customization in mainline games
>finally went to 3D after years of stagnation
>added Fairy type
>Hordes
>PSS
>Great region

>>31257452
I would just bump up SM instead of making a separate tier

But they're your opinions

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Battle Frontier is literally the only reason why you guys jerk over Emerald, and you can't even play it with proper competitive sets because breeding pentaperfect Pokemon in Gen III is practically impossible. I wish this meme would just die. There was a time when I thought that BW2 are the most overrated Pokemon games on this board, but now I've realized that Emerald is the true king in that category.Gen III in its entirety is mediocre as hell and Battle Frontier doesn't change that fact.

>>31257458
Not only, It introduced the PSS, the customization, megastone etc...
But yeah they aren't so good

>>31257452
That's pretty much perfect.

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wow fuck off OP your list is shit and you should feel bad. Here's the list of a true patrician.

>>31257482
>Fairy type being good
>Kalos
>Implying Kalos was in any way good at all

>>31257508
10/10 God taste

>>31257482
Gen 6 games and 7 are opposites

Gen 6 introduced new Mechanics into shit games

Gen 7 introduced shit mechanics into pretty good games

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>>31257482
>>>>>>>Great region
>>31257508
this is correct

>>31257513
Kalos has some amazing level design.

Fairy is a good type

>>31257508
I unironically like Dash

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>>31257527
*good new mechanics

>>31257508
Finally somewhat good taste on this board

But really
>no pokemon channel

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>>31257548
>Kalos has amazing level design

Ok route 13 and Lumiose city's ifenticle nature

Everything after the 3rd gym is shit

>>31257452
I would put SM in the great tier because i don't think Crystal and FRLG were really better imo.

>>31257583
this, The routes in kalos are more boring than in kanto.

>>31256891
Yellow should be replaced with SuMo.
Emerald should be a tier down.

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>/vp/ still thinking BW2 was all that good

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>>31256891
I'm not mad.

>>31257508
Best chart yet, somebody gets it

>>31257675
>>/vp/ still not agreeing with my objective opinion

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>>31256891
Right, so taking this threads replies and such into account, I've made this. Do you still agree?

>>31257860
I agree with this one

>>31257860
I'd swap XY and ORAS and move BW down

>>31257860
switch XY and ORAS, move up Emerald and it's perfect

>>31258068
this

>>31257860
>Can't into Programming
>D&P listed but not S&M

>>31258296
Look at the picture again

>>31258369
I did, and again, why is S&M listed in the "Great" tier and not the "Can't into Programming" tier?

>>31256891
This is actually really fucking solid. Good job OP

>>31257860
Swap ORAS and X/Y and you got the perfect chart.

>>31257860
>SM
>not in GameFreak Can't Into Programming tier

Into the trash it goes.

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Why do so many people on /vp/ froth BW and BW2? They nearly killed the pokemon franchise.

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>>31256891
Allow me to help, OP.

>>31258661
Good point i personally stopped playing from gen III up until ORAS.

I still don't get how someone can LOVE emerald, but hate R/S. Unless you loved the battle frontier THAT much, emerald really didn't add or change that much in regards to the campaign

>>31258632
Babbie's first gen. /vp/ is crawling with underage, and most of them have either Gen 4 or 5 as their favorites.

>>31258632
That has nothing to do with the games being bad. GF tried something new and fresh and people cried over the lack of Gen 1 shit. XY sold very well, so there you go.

>>31258660
This chart >>31258500 is better than yours and its a fucking meme.

>>31258724
Gen 4 and 5 kiddies have gen wunners to thank. Without us loving pokemon from the start you would not of gotten your mediocre games that you all love.

>>31258632

Because people at large have no taste. best music imo, tons of new pokemon, tons of awesome bug types which is my favorite type, they weren't the worst in terms of challenge.

Their only flaw were they still had HMs, even though they were really toning them down during that gen

>>31258729
I have since gone back and attempted to play BW and BW2 but they are seriously bad. It's probably because going from 3d back to trashy 2d doesn't help. But i mean even the pokemon in BW look like fakemon. Like stunky? I seriously thought that was a fakemon when I first saw it in a romhack.

>>31258780
Stunky is from D/P/Pt

>>31258724
Am I wrong? No one could possibly love DP and BW unless they were the first games they played.

>>31256891
can agree on

>literally dissing gen 5
>literally
>in 2017
>mfw

Proof you must have not even played it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FPz7yklWrA

>>31258840
I'm not even a hoennbaby lol. I'm a Kantobaby. I don't know why you would of kept paying for the games anon. I will admit that gen III wasn't perfect hence why I stopped supporting the company after they burned me with Hoenn.

But please explain to me what are the bad patterns introduced in Hoenn?

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>31258865
>SuMo

>>31256891
Patriction taste desu, no pokemon game is really that bad

>>31256891
I completely agree OP, good job.

>>31258884
Kek, stay mad, cuck.

>>31256891
Put Crystal in hall of fame and you have a good list.

>>31256891
For once OP isn't a faggot. Good job.

>>31258632
>nearly killed the franchise

The percentage of difference in sales between DP --> BW is smaller than RB --> GS

But remind me how GS killed the franchise

>>31257632
Fittingly, they both start with a k.

>good
Platinum
Emerald
BW2 (Challenge Mode only)
SM

>filler
Everything else

this is objective and NOT up for discussion

>>31259008
Probably intentional being Ka-

>>31258632
>DP is the 5th highest selling DS game
>BW is the 6th highest selling DS game

>>31259006
>>31259050
>sales don't matter!
>e-except when they do!

Unovabortions are such hypocrites.

>>31258632
/vp/ is a board filled with early to late teens -- that's why.

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>>31259097
What

I'm just proving statics are retarded and designed to be cherrypicked

>>31258660
i didn't know someone could have such an awful fucking opinion

>>31259050
Pokémon Red and Blue set the precedent for what has become a blockbuster, multibillion-dollar franchise. By 1997, Red, Green, and Blue combined had sold 10.4 million copies in Japan. By the end of its run, it had sold a total combined sale of 9.85 million in the United States while an additional 3.56 million have been sold in United Kingdom. In 2009, IGN referred to Pokémon Red and Blue as the "Best selling RPG on the Game Boy" and "Best selling RPG of all time".

In the US, Black and White sold more than 1.08 million copies on day one, breaking the previous day-one record held by predecessors Diamond and Pearl of 780,000 copies. According to the NPD Group, Nintendo sold 1.3 million units of White and 1.1 million units of Black in March 2011, making them the #1 and #2 top selling games in the US for the month. In April 2011, Nintendo's financial earnings report confirmed that Pokémon Black and White had sold 11.5 million copies worldwide, making them the highest selling DS games for Nintendo in the 2010-11 financial year, and third overall, behind only the Wii games, Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort. As of March 2015, the games' combined sales have reached 15.60 million.

So again tell me how a well established franchise game failed to outsell the initial version.

>>31257860
I'd move ORAS up, despite their flaws none of them I'd call "not good".

>>31259643
>Gen 5
>great

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>31259643
How is XY not Pointless now ?

>>31259643
Pure retardation.

>>31256891
move FrLg down a tier and i can agree

>>31258746
>>31259237
t. Antigenwunners

I think it's time for underage to go to bed already :^)

>>31256891
Yeah. That's pretty accurate. I hope the Stars meme is real because SM did so much right but still need some tweaking.

>>31257860
move BW1 down a tier and you got it right.

People should stop sucking the **** of black and white. Black and white 2 were a little better but still the worst pokemon games ever made. The best pokemon games are gold/silver with remakes,Emerald. Just below that Omega ruby and alpha sapphire and fire red leaf green, pearl diamond and platinum.

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>>31261525
>****

I'd say bump S&M down and Yellow up, but other than that, pretty good list OP.

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>>31256924
>Move XY and ORAS into good.

>>31256891
Makes me wonder if gen VI could have been Hall of Fame with a dank third game.

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>>31256891
Why isnt Red and BLue in completely replaces. Theyve aged like shit and FRLG is basically just better versions of them.

>>31256891
I haven't finished Sun/Moon yet but it's already in not so good tier just for the sheer amount of times you need to stop for a cutscene or to do something completely irrelevant and pointless.

Hopefully it gets better but I don't have my expectations high at all. I kinda miss that vague exploration feel the older generations had that mirrored other jrpgs. Now it feels way too much like the game is holding your hand.

>>31256891
looks pretty accurate, OP.

>>31256891
man, if only Emerald had more regions to explore.

I've been playing the Super Theta Emerald hack and it's a bit crazy to cram like 10 pkmn into one grass field.

if there was another region they could spread that stuff thinner.

>>31262092
I'll agree with you that it feels way to forced. Cutscenes are trash and the routes feel like they were designed by someone from Final Fantasy. So linear with almost no possibility of open exploration.

Isn't the director of SM from the final fantasy series? You can really see his influence on the games, not all good.

I still really like the games though.

>>31256891
Looks good to me, except I have no opinion on Black/White I never played them. Only played Black2/White2, which were good but a lot of it is forgettable.

I'd move SM down by one, aside from that i agree

Why are Black 2 and White 2 so hyped?

Sure, they got a very good postgame. But the main game is shit.

>>31263858
How could your opinion be so wrong?

>>31256891
Okay, can someone please explain something to me without starting a genwar? What makes Gen 4 better than Gen 5? As far as I see it, Gen 5 not only fixed every one of Gen 4's problems, and added more to it. Sure, Battle Frontier is great, but that alone shouldn't be reason enough to put HGSS or Platinum above BW.

How can we quarantine the unovacucks?

>>31263858
Best story and characters to date, that's why

>>31263973
bw2 is in top tier

I agree with most of it but I don't remember black and white being that memorable or good

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>>31257492
This. When the fuck are you faggots going to wake up and realize ORAS is better than RSE just for the fact every gen before the DS is archaic as hell? Gen 3 doesn't even have the physical/special split. If you hate it then you never liked Hoenn in the first place and you're clouded by nostalgia and this is coming from a guy who grew up with gen 3.
>but muh Battle Frontier
you mean the shit that was like 50% luck? it's not nearly as good as you remember.

>Completely replaced
RGBY
GSC
RSE
DP
>Okay
XY
RFGL
ORAS
>Good
SM
>Great
BW
>Hall of Fame
BW2
HGSS
Platinum

>>31256891
>Gen 5 should all be lower than the lower tier
>ORAS and FRLG should be swapped
>DP shouldn't be in 'completely replaced' until remakes.

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>>31256891

Swap B/W and HG/SS and your list is perfect. The Johto remakes have a ton of atmospheric and aesthetic value but mechanically they're kind of busted.

Friendly Remainder: You can't put SM on the same tier of XY. ORAS should be a tier above XY
##

Move HGSS to good, they aren't better than Crystal.

>>31256891
Good job, that's very accurate.

Totally agree but I'd move XY to Completely Replaced.

They were replaced by every other game in the series.

>>31257458
>PSS wasn't the best thing XY did for the franchise

>>31258004
>I'll agree that BW should be bumped down. It played extremely slowly on the DS. BW2 was infinitely superior because it didn't slow down all the fucking time.

here is the objectively correct list, not influenced by /vp/´s bullshit taste:

Hall of Fame tier:
- BW2
- Emerald/ORAS
- HGSS
- Platinum

Very good tier:
- Crystal
- BW

Good tier:
- XY
- FRLG
-SM
Meh tier:
- GS
- RS
- DP

Shit tier
- RGBY

>>31256985
plebian taste

>>31257029
>>31257021
>>31256906
Forreal though I saw the thumbnail and was ready for BS but this is pretty quality.

>>31256891
>X and Y that low
Only one I don't agree with

>>31256891
Yes OP I more or less agree. RBY still have tremendous nostalgia value for me over FRLG but objectively your ordering is probably correct. I would in fact put ORAS in the "completely replaced" category because even Emerald was better.

>>31267714
>liking a tech demo
Opinion discarded

>>31256924
XY and ORAS should stay where they are

SM is not on the same level on BW, 5th gen had actual post-game content even in the first two games. SM has nothing.

>>31256891
Yes, I'd say that's about right.

>>31257492
>>31264044

Bitches, you're all bitches.
Proper training was very possible in emerald,especially since it included the flame body secondary effect.

During that time all you needed was two perfect IVs, 3 was basically the best pokemon bred.
Personally i ahve plenty 2-3 perfect IV pokemon, Magneton, Donphan, MEtagross, Blaziken among others.

You know nothing about competitive if you didn't play in pokemon netbattle during 3rd gen.

>>31264044
Reminder that literally no one gave a rats ass about the possibility of a physical/special split until it happened in gen 4 and suddenly retards were memeing "how did we ever live without the phys/spec split?!?!" just to fit in.

All you're proving is that you're likely underage, not that ORAS is in any way good.

>>31267885
(you)

>>31256891
probably the closest we will get to an objectively correct list, though i think there should be a tier between hal of fame and good that contains Emerald, SM and BW though

>>31268246
>butthurt newgenner

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>>31267811
>hating x and y

>>31263907
He's right though. B2W2's main game is so forgettable that I literally forgot the name of the rival. Even BW outclasses in that aspect and you know it.

>>31256891
Wow good job anon. A list I finally agree with.

Non-biased list:

>Hall of Fame
HGSS
Plat
BW2

>Good
SM
Emerald
FRLG
ORAS
Yellow
Crystal

>Not good
RB
XY
BW

>Replaced
GS
RS
DP


Personal list:

>Hall of Fame
HGSS
Plat

>Good
Yellow
FRLG
SM
ORAS
Crystal

>Not Good
XY

Replaced
GS
RS
DP

>Gen 5
BW
BW2

>>31256891
No issues here