>he has a defogger and a stealth rocker on the same team

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>he has Defog on a hazard stacking stall team

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>>31254260
This actually worked okay with Msableye last gen.

ABR's stall team that got Shadow Tag banned had this feature.

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>his spin blocker is a defogger

>>31254260
THE LEAKS ARE FAKE
immunit cat pls

>>31254515

What's wrong with this

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>>31254515
>his spin blocker is a spinner
>his spin blocker lays hazards

>>31254260
I also have an Aromatherapy user on my Toxic Orb Gliscor team.

What you gonna do about it, bitch?

>>31254260
I don't even know what that means

>>31254260
It's really not always that bad an idea. Sometimes it's worth clearing your own rocks if the opponent is heavy stall and has a full field of hazards. Setting your own rocks back up usually isn't very difficult anyway.

>>31254717
>switch in spin blocker to block the rapid spin so stones stay up
>Spin blocker used Defog!
>All hazards were cleared

>>31254260
I'd think that was a backup in case shit goes really bad. Might need to clear against a ghost.

>>31254861
Defog removes ALL hazards from the field, including ones that you have set up on your opponent's side.

So to have a Stealth Rock / hazard setter and a Defogger on the same team contradict eachother, rather than having a Rapid Spinner which only removes hazards from your side.

>>31255839
There's a lot more good defog users than there are spinners though. Nowadays your only good option is Excadrill.

>>31256111
>foretress
>pheromosa
Donphan and Dhelmise are also decent.

>>31256583

Forretress and Donphan are fucking shit, and Pheromosa is too frail to be spinning

>>31256583
>Donphan
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHA

Lando-T (the best Stealth Rock user) will get multiple opportunities to set up Stealth Rock throughout the battle, so it barely matters.

Defog is good for keeping hazards off the field until your opponent's hazard setter is dead.

>>31256603
Pheremosa usually guarantees a switch-out when she comes in

>>31254260
Actually on teams that can keep momentum that is more recommendable.

Not every team wants to run Excadrill/Starmie so a pivot Defog user works well as a panick button.

People that think rocks at turn one are a must often forget how good some Defog users are over rapid spinners on some teams.

>>31256603
>Pheromosa is too frail to be spinning
Frail spinners are fine if they're threatening enough to force switches. Starmie's been doing it literally forever

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>I'll get those rocks off the field, AND protect you from status